The statement of a fact is not whining Brian, at least not in most people's minds. Although one should be more forthcoming which would show where one is speaking from when dictating to others. Laz

Well said Brian.

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours. Gene

- That's not what I lack the patience for, and you know that darned well. So, stop, just stop, the insulting nonsense! -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always

Yes, Laz, I am well aware that he is sighted. But that is no excuse for treating fellow blind list members with such scorn and disrespect. If he lacks the patience to deal with

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little

- Which I have never claimed to be nor made any attempt to hide the fact I'm fully sighted. The fact that I'm sighted is completely irrelevant. I presume individuals who are blind are just that,

- I suggest you read a bit more on both novel pathogens and on liberty and freedom (as opposed to license, which is what you propose). John Stuart Mill, in On Liberty, had this to say, "liberty . . .

First, the person is in a living home. You have no idea, or have not indicated or proven that she can't get help from a resident or staff member. Of course, there will be people placed in difficult

- In most of my experience they are trained, and trained well. But, they may not be trained in each and everything that gets thrown at them accessibility software wise. I would imagine that JAWS as

Ah, but that's where you're wrong Gerald; he's not a fellow blind person. brian Vogel is a sighted person. Stay safe, Laz <bwaylimited@...> wrote:

It really has nothing to do with the thread. However, as the one who set this covid subthread in motion i'm not going to apoligize for it. I'm so sick and tired of people politicizing covid.

- Not that I don't agree with you, broadly, but there is a "Mute this Topic" link at the end of messages for a reason. This isn't the first, nor will it be the last, to go off the rails. One of the

I really use Amazon a lot, and I am having no issues. Andy

Hi Ron, I need to keep the waters clearly muddied. Canada has provinces where the u s has states. The free computer that is available to residents of Ontario does not exist in Saskatchewan. I

Yes, but why aren’t the people in the accessability departmenttrained? Pam.

Yes I do I don't believe lies. Brian Sackrider

Could someone please tell me what Covid19 has to do with the original subject of this thread? Knock it off guys. Take your political views somewhere else, but not here. Not my list, but this is

Jim: I am afraid you will never convince people who are so set in their own beliefs that they refuse to have an open mind.

So then you believe the President, who claims that there have been fewer than 10,000 deaths related to the Corona virus? Where's the evidence for his ridiculous assertion?