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Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Is it necessary to use the fingerprint reader or is it an optional thing
I can set up later?"

Dear sis, security, security, security! I hear this one word thrown around
quite a bit. Like germophobes, security drives many off the wall! Use of
the fingerprint thingie falls in that line. I personally DO NOT use it. I
don't add any security anything to my toys. I suppose I am crazy, but I
dare anyone to attempt to STEAL MY TOY and see what such a thief will find
out! For a start, I hardly have ANY NAMES AND NUMBERS in my Contacts list.
If I do, I typically MAKE THE NAMES of such contacts impossible to guess
right. I have a knack for STICKING PHONE NUMBERS in my head and I wish
anyone trying to pry them out all the luck that can be found wherever.

If you wish to use fingerprint for additional security, you can set it up
when you're ready to do so.

Oh, Covid19!! It forces MY RESTLESS LEGS to find unneeded rest. I can't
sit in that plane to a land I know nothing about, simply popping in for my
own exploration as I mix with its inhabitants. All I can do is KEEP HOPE
ALIVE that some curative measure will pop up and some element of normalcy
shall return soonest.

There's a TMobile store not too far from my unshackled dwelling; I pop in
there now and then to play with new Android toys although I'll never ever
buy my toys directly from any carrier. Luckily, I don't need an appointment
to go in, just face covering; I can't get on the bus without face covering
either, and, all other stores require it too. Oh well, with fingers
crossed, I pray that better days, as the Reggae song says, are coming bye
and bye!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: How do u clone a laptop's hard drive?

Geoff Eden
 

Good afternoon, the easiest way to do this to secure all of the personal settings you have for your computer is to create an image of your hard drive on another drive, which will give you the capability of bringing your machine back to the moment you created the image.

To begin with, determine what you really need to keep for a restoration. If you have copies of music, emails, or text that you have already put away, then you can remove them from your drive before starting in order to keep the image within manageable limits. This is only necessary if space is an issue.

When you've accomplished your housecleaning, check to see how much space is being used. Then look at your external drives to determine where you have sufficient space to store your image.

To begin, tap your Windows key and type in the word "restore". This will open up your restore utility. Press the tab several times until you see create an image of this computer. Press the enter key to select this item, and after a short time, the next tab will show you an option of which drive you may select. This only occurs if you have other drives plugged in at the moment.

Finally, launch the process, and give yourself a few hours to do something else. You can use the computer while this is happening, but I suggest it may be risky. I do mine overnight.

The computer will inform you when it's finished, and offer you the opportunity to create a startup disk. You must select this option and be ready with a blank CD, DVD, or memory stick to record this special boot material. It is altogether likely, that if your computer has a CD/DVD drive, your BIOS has been set to see it first in the boot sequence. If your computer has no media drive, that it is altogether likely that your BIOS will see a device such as a memory stick or a remote CD drive as first in the boot sequence.

Now, when it comes time to restore from that image, start your computer with the CD – memory stick ready to go. Give your system a minute or two to sort itself out, which it will do without speech. Generally, hitting the enter key a couple of times will launch the restore. If not you may need someone to take a peek at the screen.

Just for your information, there is a circulation of Windows PE that can come up talking and will give you control of the image restoration. Probably far more complexity than that for which you are prepared.

I hope this is helpful, and that if anyone sees I've missed something, please jump in.

Geoff

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] How do u clone a laptop's hard drive?

Hi All, Thanks to y'all I have gotten to the point where I am wanting to
get a copy/clone of my laptop's hard drive so I will be able to restore
it with most of the tweaks I like to have on my machine should the need
ever arise.


Is there a place to get instructions on how to clone a hard drive?


I am running win10 and one of the latest jaws. My laptop has a 1TB SSD
and I have 2 1 TB WD external My Passports ready to receive the clone/copy.


I don't know how often I should clone my PC as it is not a business
machine...just my personal device.


Your suggestions and help will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in Advance!

Nancy


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Mary Smith
 

Lisa, once you get the new phone and start using it, can you post to the list and share your opinions about the accessibility of the phone from the perspective of a new user. I'd be interested in what others have to say before investing in the phone myself.

On 2020-08-13 12:11 p.m., Lisa Belville wrote:
Hey, Olusegun,


Thanks so much for the answers to my admittedly ignorant questions.  LOL


All of our phone stores are by appointment only, and masks and social distancing is a requirement, so little or no touching of each other's merchandise.


I ordered the phone last night and it should be here next week.


I think if I have enough rudimentary knowledge I may be able to move forward without any eyeballs.


Is it necessary to use the fingerprint reader or is it an optional thing I can set up later?


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/13/2020 9:59 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net?"

You sure can!  VoiceAssistant will read to you every piece of info thrown at
it as shown on the screen.  If you can get to a phone store, I suggest you
take a short trip there and play with a Samsung toy that has VoiceAssistant
pumping blood to its veins!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado




Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Lisa Belville
 

Hey, Olusegun,


Thanks so much for the answers to my admittedly ignorant questions.  LOL


All of our phone stores are by appointment only, and masks and social distancing is a requirement, so little or no touching of each other's merchandise.


I ordered the phone last night and it should be here next week.


I think if I have enough rudimentary knowledge I may be able to move forward without any eyeballs.


Is it necessary to use the fingerprint reader or is it an optional thing I can set up later?


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/13/2020 9:59 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net?"

You sure can! VoiceAssistant will read to you every piece of info thrown at
it as shown on the screen. If you can get to a phone store, I suggest you
take a short trip there and play with a Samsung toy that has VoiceAssistant
pumping blood to its veins!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Yes, Sis Carolyn; GoogleAssistant comes with each Android installation on
all android toys! That said, it DOES NEED TO BE CONFIGURED before it can be
put to use. Example: You NEED TO TRAIN IT to recognise your voice.

There's one thing I DO NOT LIKE with respect to the GoogleAssistant: Any
voice similar to yours can trigger it. Madam Siri wins in that regard. I
sure hope that Google can figure out a way to resolve this soonest!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Gerald wrote:

"How do you turn on Voice Assist without sighted help? Does this phone have
any physical buttons like a home key that can be tapped to turn on speech
output?"

First, a quick correction: No such app as VoiceAssist; the samsung screen
reader is VoiceAssistant and it's a FORK OF Talkback! Before now, it was
named Galaxy Talkback.

Second, the days of PHYSICAL HOME BUTTONS in newer incarnations of Android
toys are long gone. All we have are virtual home buttons still at the same
location at the bottom of the screen. You don't ever have to use it,
Android9 and 10 allows you to decide whether or not you want a home button
on your screen.

Third, accessibility in Androidville can still be enabled by laying down two
fingers on the face of the toy; you do need to turn it on and wait a few
seconds before doing this as it needs to be fully powered up. When I got my
S10 toy, I didn't even have to do this; it came up talking to me as soon as
i powered it up.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net?"

You sure can! VoiceAssistant will read to you every piece of info thrown at
it as shown on the screen. If you can get to a phone store, I suggest you
take a short trip there and play with a Samsung toy that has VoiceAssistant
pumping blood to its veins!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Carolyn Arnold
 

I didn't realize that the Google Assist had to be set up,
just thought it was part of the Android package from the get
go.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 10:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally blind

You got to set up the google assistant or bixby to do siri
things. I haven't done any of it so I can't help there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:14:33 -0600
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally blind

Hi Lisa,

In many ways the Iphones and the androids are similar.
In apple land, You can ask siri some questions and get it
to do some things.
Voiceover does not answer question or do things. It just
reports what is on the screen.
Maybe things are similar with the Samsung galaxies.
Hopefully someone with the real info will clarify these
things.
Maybe our great friend Olusegun will add his 20 cents
worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of
Lisa Belville
Sent: August 12, 2020 6:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally
blind

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk
with just the Voice Assist? I know people who get the
iPhone thinking SIRIUS will read and do everything for them
and it just doesn't work that way. Can I use the Voice
Assist to do other things besides texting and calling? What
about Emails and surfing the net? I know you said you don't
do these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to
do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all
the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power
phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a
phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these
days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If
you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how
different the user experience is going to be. I jumped
straight into android without passing go and collecting 200
dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability
for totally
blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only
Android knowledge
I have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google
Play Store on
it, but that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally
blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones
is getting a
Samsung A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal
if you like
TracFone. I may have to help her learn to use it.
Does this
phone have Talkback or some other Android speech? I
am an iPhone
user with Verizon, but I am also curious about the
quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...











Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Carolyn Arnold
 

That is why I said Voice Assist is comparable to VoiceOver. Siri would be comparable to OK Google.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi Lisa,

In many ways the Iphones and the androids are similar.
In apple land, You can ask siri some questions and get it to do some things.
Voiceover does not answer question or do things. It just reports what is on the screen.
Maybe things are similar with the Samsung galaxies.
Hopefully someone with the real info will clarify these things.
Maybe our great friend Olusegun will add his 20 cents worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: August 12, 2020 6:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk with just the Voice Assist? I know people who get the iPhone thinking SIRIUS will read and do everything for them and it just doesn't work that way. Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling? What about Emails and surfing the net? I know you said you don't do these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how different the user experience is going to be. I jumped straight into android without passing go and collecting 200 dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally
blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only Android knowledge I
have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it,
but that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a
Samsung A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal if you like
TracFone. I may have to help her learn to use it. Does this phone
have Talkback or some other Android speech? I am an iPhone user
with Verizon, but I am also curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...






Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Tante Lisa, indeed, the S10E does have an SD Card slot. You can move data
from a computer to an SD card inserted in the S10E without the need for a
third party software and vice versa. When connected to a computer, just
grant the necessary permissions following displayed prompts and both the toy
and SD card will be displayed as separate drives. The S10E also has a
3.5-inch jack assuming the use of this jack is a necessity. And, yes, it
will get upgrades up to Android12, currently Android11 is in beta-testing;
multifinger gestures will be supported in the new release of Talkback that's
still being minted.

A few other things:

1. The fingerprint thingie is on the Power button with the S10E.
2. The Power button is ALL BY ITSELF on the right side of the toy.
3. On the left side of the toy, there are three buttons: Volume Up, Volume
Down, and Bixby button.

You see, everyone wants to get into the Smart Assistant game, so Bixby is
Samsung's response to Google Assistant in Androidville, or Ms. Siri for iOS.
Bixby might go away in future incarnations of Samsung toys; I've read here
and there that Google and Samsung are "talking" to each other on the
subject-matter.

I think you'd like the S10E once you get Android routines down to a science;
Samsung is one company in Androidville that does address accessibility
issues in interesting ways. I don't recall ever playing with a Samsung toy
that's not already accessible from a blindness perspective right out of the
box! Yes it may not be "pure Android" compared to the Google Pixel, but
Samsung does bring with it great hardware without leaving accessibility in
the closet and its update policy has gotten better on newer toy
incarnations.

Read more about Samsung's VoiceAssistant here:

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/troubleshooting/TSG01001530/

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Freemake YouTube to MP3 Boom

Terrilynne Pomeroy
 

I would like to install and use Freemake Youtube converter but I am slightly confused. When I go to the internet, there are a bunch of sites and I’m not sure which would be best for me. I don’t know which version works best for a user of JAWS, which site, which version, etc., etc. Does anyone know which site might be the best and easiest site for me to navigate? Which version I should download.

 

Thanks for any help,

 

TerriLynne


Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Pamela Dominguez
 

I see my message with groups.io; but I don't see them with other list serves. Groups.io is the only one where I see my messages. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

Since I don't know just what you hear or where you are from direct
observation, the following is based on what appears to be the case. If it
isn't, for example, if Google isn't the home page, let us know.

Either don't make Google your home page or turn off automatic going into
forms mode when you are on an edit field.
Or just ignore where you are and use control O or control l if you are using
browsers other than Internet Explorer and type an address. Or follow a book
mark. Google, evidently is your home page and its opening. When it opens,
Google automatically places you on the edit field to search. Your
screehn-reader is probably automatically going into forms mode. Google
isn't bugging you. Its doing what it should do as the home page.

As far as you not seeing your message, are you talking about when using
Groups.io or other list serves?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 5:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

No, my messages only show up if somebody replies to them, but I don't see
the message when I first send them. Only if somebody replies to them. As
for them being under the replies, that's where they belong. But every time
I open up a browser to type in a website, google automatically gets right
there and puts me in search mode, as if I'm searching for something, not
actually knowing what I want to open. So, I have to take it out of that
mode. That's what I mean bugging me all the time. I only want google if I
actually want to search for something. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as
your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a
setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not
sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in
that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the
behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn
around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list
unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well
and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has
features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user
would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Gerald Levy
 


How do you turn on Voice Assist without sighted help?  Does this phone have any physical buttons like a home key that can be tapped to turn on speech output?


Gerald



On 8/12/2020 8:37 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Voice Assist is comparable to iOS's VoiceOver. 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

LOL It's not just Androidville, it's Smart Phone land.  She's in for a treat, that's for sure.


I'm seriously thinking of picking one up just to try it out.  I'd love 
to be able to just copy/paste things onto the phone using an SD card.


Lisa


How much can one do with just the voice assist?  Is this designed to be 
used like SIRI or does it read more information?




Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:19 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Tante Lisa, Samsung A10E is a great toy!  Yes, it does come with
VoiceAssistant which is reasonably close to what you have in iOS land.  Why
so?  It does support multifinger gestures for example.

Since the toy is for mum who's sighted, no need to install Android Suite
which includes the Talkback screen reader on it.

If you need additional assistance with this toy, please feel free to contact
me privately.  Tell mum to have fun with her new toy, and I bid her a
welcome to Androidville!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado











Re: How do u clone a laptop's hard drive?

Smiling?
 

This is entirely dependent upon what specific software is going to be used (which I imagine you are already well aware of). It's unfortunately not a one size fits all event.

As far as how often should you the user make backups for yourself? Seeing as you are the shot caller for your individual system, you guessed it, it's entirely up to you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nancy Hill
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 6:27
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How do u clone a laptop's hard drive?

Hi All, Thanks to y'all I have gotten to the point where I am wanting to get a copy/clone of my laptop's hard drive so I will be able to restore it with most of the tweaks I like to have on my machine should the need ever arise.


Is there a place to get instructions on how to clone a hard drive?


I am running win10 and one of the latest jaws. My laptop has a 1TB SSD and I have 2 1 TB WD external My Passports ready to receive the clone/copy.


I don't know how often I should clone my PC as it is not a business
machine...just my personal device.


Your suggestions and help will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in Advance!

Nancy


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Lisa Belville
 

Oh, not so much interested in that.  As long as I have speech I'm fine.  It's just that I see new iPhone users expecting SIRI to do everything and read everything to them when in reality there is plenty SIRI can't do, so it's just easier in the long run to learn to use Voice Over and the touch screen.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 9:09 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
You got to set up the google assistant or bixby to do siri things. I haven't done any of it so I can't help there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:14:33 -0600
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi Lisa,

In many ways the Iphones and the androids are similar.
In apple land, You can ask siri some questions and get it to do some things.
Voiceover does not answer question or do things. It just reports what is on the screen.
Maybe things are similar with the Samsung galaxies.
Hopefully someone with the real info will clarify these things.
Maybe our great friend Olusegun will add his 20 cents worth.


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Rob Hudson
 

You got to set up the google assistant or bixby to do siri things. I haven't done any of it so I can't help there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:14:33 -0600
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi Lisa,

In many ways the Iphones and the androids are similar.
In apple land, You can ask siri some questions and get it to do some things.
Voiceover does not answer question or do things. It just reports what is on the screen.
Maybe things are similar with the Samsung galaxies.
Hopefully someone with the real info will clarify these things.
Maybe our great friend Olusegun will add his 20 cents worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: August 12, 2020 6:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk with just the Voice Assist? I know people who get the iPhone thinking SIRIUS will read and do everything for them and it just doesn't work that way. Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling? What about Emails and surfing the net? I know you said you don't do these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how different the user experience is going to be. I jumped straight into android without passing go and collecting 200 dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally
blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only Android knowledge I
have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it,
but that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a
Samsung A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal if you like
TracFone. I may have to help her learn to use it. Does this phone
have Talkback or some other Android speech? I am an iPhone user
with Verizon, but I am also curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


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Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Monte Single
 

Hi Lisa,

In many ways the Iphones and the androids are similar.
In apple land, You can ask siri some questions and get it to do some things.
Voiceover does not answer question or do things. It just reports what is on the screen.
Maybe things are similar with the Samsung galaxies.
Hopefully someone with the real info will clarify these things.
Maybe our great friend Olusegun will add his 20 cents worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: August 12, 2020 6:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk with just the Voice Assist? I know people who get the iPhone thinking SIRIUS will read and do everything for them and it just doesn't work that way. Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling? What about Emails and surfing the net? I know you said you don't do these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how different the user experience is going to be. I jumped straight into android without passing go and collecting 200 dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally
blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only Android knowledge I
have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it,
but that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a
Samsung A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal if you like
TracFone. I may have to help her learn to use it. Does this phone
have Talkback or some other Android speech? I am an iPhone user
with Verizon, but I am also curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


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missktlab1217@...






Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Rob Hudson
 

Yes there is. It can read apps and all--as long as they're accessible. It's a fully featured screen reader.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:32:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk with just the
Voice Assist? I know people who get the iPhone thinking SIRIUS will
read and do everything for them and it just doesn't work that way. Can
I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net? I know you said you don't do
these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how different the user experience is going to be. I jumped straight into android without passing go and collecting 200 dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only Android knowledge I
have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it, but
that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a Samsung
A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal if you like TracFone. I may
have to help her learn to use it. Does this phone have Talkback or some
other Android speech? I am an iPhone user with Verizon, but I am also
curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
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missktlab1217@...








Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Gene
 

That's what I said yesterday. Groups.io has a feature, on by default, that gets around GMail not sending you your own messages. But I wanted to verify that that is happening.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I can receive them on groups.io, but from other email servers, I can't.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

No, Groups. that io has a rerouting function there is a checkbox in your
account, that will allow you to receive your own messages. I was explaining
this feature for Pam.
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On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what command you are talking about. If it is the recent command, that isn't something you adjust on the web site, so I don't think you are talking about that. And, from trying it, I concluded that it wasn't sending my list mail directly from the list. It was sending me a copy of my message but not from the list serve. So it was useless in terms of telling me whether my messag had reached the list.

But none of this matters if you use Groups.io lists and a lot of e-mail lists have migrated there, or here, since we are using it on this list. GMail has no command to allow you to receive list mail. Groups.io has a command to circumvent GMail's not sending you your own list mail. It has been on by default for a long time. So, given the number of groups on Groups.io now, this may not be much problem anymore for a lot of blind e-mail list users or a minor one.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:38 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

Oh and to also receive your own replies in your inbox, there is a setting on the groups.io website that needs to be changed. If you want, I can walk you through that as well as send you a automatic login link that way that you can go onto Jessie's settings or if you wish for me to do it for you, I could go off-line with you, and login to your Gmail and fix the problem for you if you would like. And I will by and if you don't feel comfortable with me doing it, if you want to give me your computer guys phone number that helps you out all the time, I can give him the steps and he can fix it for you if you would like. Because I know you've been going through a lot here lately.no means give anybody any of your information.
On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn
around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list
unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well
and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has
features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user
would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message ----- From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Gene
 

Since I don't know just what you hear or where you are from direct observation, the following is based on what appears to be the case. If it isn't, for example, if Google isn't the home page, let us know.

Either don't make Google your home page or turn off automatic going into forms mode when you are on an edit field.
Or just ignore where you are and use control O or control l if you are using browsers other than Internet Explorer and type an address. Or follow a book mark. Google, evidently is your home page and its opening. When it opens, Google automatically places you on the edit field to search. Your screehn-reader is probably automatically going into forms mode. Google isn't bugging you. Its doing what it should do as the home page.

As far as you not seeing your message, are you talking about when using Groups.io or other list serves?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 5:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

No, my messages only show up if somebody replies to them, but I don't see
the message when I first send them. Only if somebody replies to them. As
for them being under the replies, that's where they belong. But every time
I open up a browser to type in a website, google automatically gets right
there and puts me in search mode, as if I'm searching for something, not
actually knowing what I want to open. So, I have to take it out of that
mode. That's what I mean bugging me all the time. I only want google if I
actually want to search for something. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as
your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a
setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not
sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in
that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the
behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn
around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list
unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well
and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has
features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user
would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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