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Re: Humanware Brailliant BI 40 Inquiry

Cristóbal
 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:23 AM
To: TechTalk Mailing List <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Humanware Brailliant BI 40 Inquiry

Hello Group,

I was recently able to obtain a Humanware Brailliant BI 40 Braille Display. I do not have a manual or any quick start guide. I searched on the Humanware website and I was able to find a BI 40X, but not a BI 40.

does anyone know where I can get a quick start guide or user manual for this device? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Humanware Brailliant BI 40 Inquiry

Ron Canazzi
 

Hello Group,

I was recently able to obtain a Humanware Brailliant BI 40 Braille Display.  I do not have a manual or any quick start guide.  I searched on the Humanware website and I was able to find a BI 40X, but not a BI 40.

does anyone know where I can get a quick start guide or user manual for this device?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Portable Washing Machines

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
Does anyone have any experience with using portable clothes washing machines?  I'm talking about the kind of washing machine you would use in a small apartment and you hook it up to your kitchen faucet for your water supply.  If so, would you please say what brand and model you used and what kind of luck you had with it as far as reliability and service goes?  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Re: another jarte question

Troy Burnham
 

I'll try this Geoff, Jarte states it's already in screen reader mode when I open it but maybe it needs to be reset for some reason.


Btw as I stated yesterday I usually use jaws 2020, but I have jaws 2018 installed also and I loaded that and I was able to use the pc cursor to read in Jarte.


Troy



On 5/4/2021 10:59 PM, Geoff Eden wrote:

If I repeat, I apologize. However, no mention was made of the need to place the phrase;


enable screen reader mode


On your clipboard before starting jarte.


Create the phrase in Notepad, press control A, press control C,close Notepad, and open jarte. This appears to put jarte into screen reader mode, which it announces as it opens.


There are rumours that this has been repaired, but I find I need to refresh the setting occasionally using the instructions above.


Here, using JAWS 2018 or NVDA jarte works just fine.


Good luck


Geoff







On 5/4/2021 4:28 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.


Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.


Troy


On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy







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Re: another jarte question

Gene
 

That won’t solve the problem.  the original message said that JARTE is in screen-reader mode, indicating that that was already done.  Furthermore, screen[-reader mode isn’t necessary to see text.  It is necessary to work with the interface such as menus but you can move around and read text in the edit area regardless.  Another message from another list member said that JARTE worked with JAWS until an update to JAWS.  I believe it was the release of version 2020.  The solution appears to lie with the JAWS developers and those who want to use the program with JAWS should let their voices be heard so the problem has a better chance of being addressed and addressed soon.  NVDA works with the program if people want to use that screen-reader with it.  Also, the program is aware of NVDA and automatically goes into screen-reader mode when NVDA is running and you run JARTE.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Eden
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 

If I repeat, I apologize. However, no mention was made of the need to place the phrase;

 

enable screen reader mode

 

On your clipboard before starting jarte.

 

Create the phrase in Notepad, press control A, press control C,close Notepad, and open jarte. This appears to put jarte into screen reader mode, which it announces as it opens.

 

There are rumours that this has been repaired, but I find I need to refresh the setting occasionally using the instructions above.

 

Here, using JAWS 2018 or NVDA jarte works just fine.

 

Good luck

 

Geoff

 

 

 
 
 
 
On 5/4/2021 4:28 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.

 

Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.

 

Troy

 

On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy







Re: another jarte question

Geoff Eden
 

If I repeat, I apologize. However, no mention was made of the need to place the phrase;


enable screen reader mode


On your clipboard before starting jarte.


Create the phrase in Notepad, press control A, press control C,close Notepad, and open jarte. This appears to put jarte into screen reader mode, which it announces as it opens.


There are rumours that this has been repaired, but I find I need to refresh the setting occasionally using the instructions above.


Here, using JAWS 2018 or NVDA jarte works just fine.


Good luck


Geoff







On 5/4/2021 4:28 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.


Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.


Troy


On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy







Re: another jarte question

Gene
 

I suspect my guess is right, that it doesn’t see the cursor.  Obviously, this can and should be fixed.  I hope enough people complain so that developers take the problem seriously. 
 
At least there is a way around the problem, have more than one version of JAWS on the machine or use NVDA or maybe Narrator.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 

Jarte' worked fine with Jaws up until a late update to Jaws in 2020.  After that, Jaws doesn't seem to find the line you've typed, or any line for that matter.

 

Grumpy Dave

 

 

On 5/4/2021 2:10 PM, Gene wrote:
It depends how you use JARTE.  Evidently, you can’t edit with it because you can’t conveniently tell where the cursor is.  For just reading, you can’t use read to end so reading documents that are at all long would be very cumbersome. 
 
I suspect there is some minor problem with either Windows or JAWS.  If you want to use JARTE in more than just very limited ways, I suggest trying NVDA with it if you have it on your machine and are willing to use it with JARTE.  I also wonder if Wordpad has the same problem when you use it with JAWS on your computer.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.

 

Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.

 

Troy

 

On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy







Re: another jarte question

Dave
 

Jarte' worked fine with Jaws up until a late update to Jaws in 2020.  After that, Jaws doesn't seem to find the line you've typed, or any line for that matter.


Grumpy Dave



On 5/4/2021 2:10 PM, Gene wrote:
It depends how you use JARTE.  Evidently, you can’t edit with it because you can’t conveniently tell where the cursor is.  For just reading, you can’t use read to end so reading documents that are at all long would be very cumbersome. 
 
I suspect there is some minor problem with either Windows or JAWS.  If you want to use JARTE in more than just very limited ways, I suggest trying NVDA with it if you have it on your machine and are willing to use it with JARTE.  I also wonder if Wordpad has the same problem when you use it with JAWS on your computer.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.

 

Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.

 

Troy

 

On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy







Re: another jarte question

Dave
 

Yep, I still use Jarte' but I am forced to use NVDA to use it.


I did contact JAWS Tech Support and they told me that JAWS wasn't made
to read Jarte'.


Well, it was reading fine in JAWS for years until a recent update in JAWS.


I hope there is a solution for the problem as I find Jarte to work well
for what I need.


Grumpy Dave

On 5/4/2021 12:15 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have
to use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the
pc cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw
I'm using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy






Re: another jarte question

Gene
 

The original message says the program is in screen-reader mode.  the documentation explains how to make the program work in screen-reader mode if the program doesn’t recognize the screen-reader.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 

Troy, I am not able to provide the source; however, I distinctly remember seeing a message on one of these lists perhaps three months or so ago stating that although NVDA and Narrator recognized screen reader mode,  Jaws did not. No specific version of Jaws was mentioned.

 

Don Roberts

 

 

 

On 5/4/2021 1:28 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.

 

Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.

 

Troy

 

On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy







Re: another jarte question

Donald L. Roberts
 

Troy, I am not able to provide the source; however, I distinctly remember seeing a message on one of these lists perhaps three months or so ago stating that although NVDA and Narrator recognized screen reader mode,  Jaws did not. No specific version of Jaws was mentioned.


Don Roberts




On 5/4/2021 1:28 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.


Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.


Troy


On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy







Re: jaws term

Kimsan
 

I thought the same thing, relating to mouse over.

 

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws term

 

the term for links is mouseover links.  I haven’t heard a term for other things.  It may be mouseover and then whatever it is, such as mouseover text, but I don’t know that.  I’m speculating.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 4:42 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] jaws term

 

Hi,
What is it called when you hover over something on the web and text pops up?

Kimsan Song
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If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
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Re: jaws term

Gene
 

the term for links is mouseover links.  I haven’t heard a term for other things.  It may be mouseover and then whatever it is, such as mouseover text, but I don’t know that.  I’m speculating.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 4:42 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] jaws term
 
Hi,
What is it called when you hover over something on the web and text pops up?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
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Also, you may follow me on twitter:
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jaws term

Kimsan
 

Hi,
What is it called when you hover over something on the web and text pops up?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com
If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube
artist channel at
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Also, you may follow me on twitter:
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Re: another jarte question

Gene
 

Some sort of inaccessible code is used in the program.  NVDA says unknown when I try to see items such as menus using screen review.  When I use alt, the only menu available is the system menu.  I can’t move to any other menus, even if doing so might cause NVDA to say unknown when screen-reader mode is off.  When screen-reader mode is on, menus appear and are accessed in the usual way.  Evidently, when using keyboard access by a sighted person, that ;person would be unable to use menus from the keyboard as well. 
 
the documentation also says that some visual aspects of the program are not available in screen-reader mode and I believe it says something about some items being presented in a more logical manner for use with a screen-reader.
 
It would be interesting to see how the program may appear differently in terms of the interface seen by a sighted person when used not in screen-reader mode.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 

Why wouldn’t they just have it be accessible without having a special access thing I wonder.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question

 

I’ve been playing with JARTE and I found out something interesting.  The developer has really made the program accessible.  With screen-reader mode off, you can write and edit text, but no menus are available except the system menu.  With screen-reader mode on, it looks to me as though everything available in that mode is accessible. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question

 

This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.

 

Gene

----Original Message-----

From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question

 

Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy






Re: another jarte question

Gene
 

It depends how you use JARTE.  Evidently, you can’t edit with it because you can’t conveniently tell where the cursor is.  For just reading, you can’t use read to end so reading documents that are at all long would be very cumbersome. 
 
I suspect there is some minor problem with either Windows or JAWS.  If you want to use JARTE in more than just very limited ways, I suggest trying NVDA with it if you have it on your machine and are willing to use it with JARTE.  I also wonder if Wordpad has the same problem when you use it with JAWS on your computer.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.

 

Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.

 

Troy

 

On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy







Re: another jarte question

John Holcomb II
 

Why wouldn’t they just have it be accessible without having a special access thing I wonder.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question

 

I’ve been playing with JARTE and I found out something interesting.  The developer has really made the program accessible.  With screen-reader mode off, you can write and edit text, but no menus are available except the system menu.  With screen-reader mode on, it looks to me as though everything available in that mode is accessible. 

 

Gene

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Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question

 

This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.

 

Gene

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Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question

 

Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy






Re: another jarte question

Troy Burnham
 

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling jarte 2 or 3 times since I had to have windows reinstalled at the end of February since that's when I noticed this, and I even used a different upgraded version of jarte than the one I had before and the problem still exists.


Actually it's not really a problem and more of just an annoyance, I discovered by mistake being able to read with the jaws cursor and before that I considered it a problem.


Troy


On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Gene wrote:
I just downloaded JARTE and looked at the settings.  I didn’t see anything related to how the cursor is displayed.  Therefore, you may want to try uninstalling and reinstalling the program.  If you have NVDA and are satisfied to use it in JARTE, you might want to try it before doing diagnostic work. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
This is speculation but since you can read text using the JAWS cursor, that suggests to me that JAWS isn’t seeing the cursor for some reason.  Others who use JARTE may be able to comment on that further.  For the moment, the best thing to do might be to wait for other comments.  Perhaps there is a setting you can change in the program that will solve the problem.
 
Gene
----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] another jarte question
 
Hi all,


Jarte is in screen reader mode, but when I open a file with it I have to
use the jaws cursor to read because it won't speak when using the pc
cursor no matter what I do. Has anybody else experienced this? Btw I'm
using jaws 2020.


Thanks.


Troy






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