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Re: amerzon ehco

Marie
 

I have set up three Alexa devices without any assistance from anyone. Just install the app before starting the process and follow the prompts you are given.
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: A.Mac via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco

hi all, i took the leap and bought a amerzon ehco 2 from amerzon on
there black friday deal, i.e it was £35 cheaper.

my question is, i know that you have to down load the alexa app to your
phone to set up your ehco , but in the app do you have to put in your
wi-fi, and can it all be set up with siri ok or do you need sited help.


--
Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
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Re: Length of a white cane?

Monte Single
 

Yes, I use the sweep motion also. My cane has a ball tip that rolls as you
sweep; uses much less energy than tapping.
Works for me
I like the telescoping carbon canes when I travel away from home.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: November-17-18 6:59 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?

Hi all,

I have found, as one who prefers to sweep my cane from side to side, making
little or no noise, that if I hear people ahead of me in a hallway or
something like that, switching to the classic tapping works like a charm!
If people are standing in the middle of a hallway gabbing, they will tend to
look around if they hear a tapping sound.
It takes about five seconds, but the sound goes to their brains and the
sight of me and my white cane combine there to give the message, "Hey,
there's a blind lady coming, we better get out of the way."

As I say, works like a charm.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Length of a white cane?

Penny Golden
 

I was meaning that my preference for a short cane makes me dangerous to myself. Sorry.

I agree with what you say about the use of the cane. and my folding canes are rarely folded.   Best, Pen



On 11/17/2018 6:24 AM, Gene wrote:
Thinking that using a cane makes you dangerous to others is a bad way to look at it.  People have a responsibility to be aware of their surroundings.  Of course, you should be alert as well and if you hear someone coming, you should do your part to be out of their way.  But if someone isn't paying attention and doesn't see your cane, which is designed to be seen, it's very visible, that's their fault. 
 
It may be that if you really go overboard and get a ridiculously long cane, maybe taller than you are, that may make you too much of a hazard, but I don't think its at all unreasonable to use a proper cane for your needs.  And it isn't a blind person's responsibility to take on the responsibility of others.  Sighted people can see.  Like it or not, that makes things easier for them.  My heart doesn't bleed for the negligently careless sighted person who doesn't bother to know what is around them and canes are designed to be very visible.  I haven't thought about this until now, but it may be a valid argument that blind cane users should not use canes without reflective tape on them both for their own safety and that of others, to make the cane more visible.  Canes have reflective tape.  What else do careless people want--a siren attached?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
At 11:30 PM 11/16/2018, Penny Golden, wrote:

and I like a really pretty short cane.  The chin stuff makes me very uncomfortable.  I always extend my arm pretty far, and I like my cane, oh, about up to my waist.  I know I'm a hazzard, but i'm 71. so maybe not so much as one would think.

Penny.

Pam, you got snow yesterday; are you in New York?  There the snow was a surprise; they were talking about it on our radio station here in Omaha. Well, the station is in Omaha; i'm further west.



On 11/16/2018 7:31 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
You measure your cane by what feels comfortable for you to use.  This rib cage stuff is bonkers.  It makes you have to walk really very slow in order to use it.  My cames come up to at least my chin.  Pam.
Â
From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
Â

Hi List, I’m not a cane user, but a friend, who is no longer eligible for mobility training, needs to replace her cane. 

Â

She asked me what’s the going place for measuring yourself for your cain? Example, arm pit?

Â

Would this length of cain assume a tip of about 2 inches?  I ask this, since of course, tips come in many different sizes and thus, different lengths.

Â

Thanks very much for any advice!

Â

Sincerely, Vicky

Â

Virus-free. www.avg.com

                 John



Re: Orbit Questions

john s
 

From the user guide:

Supported File Types
 
 
 
 
Extension
 
Type
 
Explanation
 
 
 
 BRF
 
 Translated, formatted braille
 
 displays exact representation
 
 
 
 BRL
 
 Translated, unformatted braille
 
 displays all text
 
 
 
 TXT
 
 Text
 
 displays eight-dot Computer Braille
 
 
 
In addition to the supported file types, Orbit Reader shows the contents of any file. Be aware, however, that some files do not contain readable content. This feature is useful, however, to examine files that do contain readable text even if it is not a supported file type.
 
There are several excellent braille translation systems available in the U.S. If you obtain textbooks from APH or get transcribed titles from NLS or NBP, the braille should be correct and formatted. You may also get braille translation software that produces automatically translated braille using programs like Liblouis or have Bookshare automatically generate braille files of the titles available.
 
 

At 07:25 AM 11/17/2018, Gary Greico, wrote:

I'm hearing that brf i

s formatted braille.


On 16-Nov-18 9:29 PM, Gene wrote:
I said before that you can just change the extensions.  But on thinking about it, that was an assumption.  Are there any differences between brf and brl other than the extension?  I have always assumed not but then, why are there two extensions?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions

Yes, Orbit Reader knows BRF.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 18:57
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions

>
>
> While bookshare books are available in daisy format, I get all mine with
> the brf extension.  Does the Orbit believe in brf or only in brl?  Yes,
> BAUD and I were old friends.
> But I was never the user that you all were.  You could probably have
> built an apple II E.
> Best, Penny
>
> Thanks. Penny
>
> On 11/16/2018 3:24 PM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
> >   Hi again,
> >
> > I remember that you were a BAUD su bscriber. I don't remember if we ever chatted.
> >
> > There are no problems with folders or daughter folders for that matter. The Reader can handle a 32 Gig SD card which means that you can have a ton of stuff in there.
> >
> > Book Share  books are audio books, right? Take note that there is no audio on this device. Braille is its only output.
> >
> > Joe G.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 12:03
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions
> >
> >>
> >> Joe, you and I go back to dos days.  How I remember with great fondness
> >> hearing you and the other old Apple folks chime in on the best ways to
> >> do things.
> >> Thanks for the info on the Orbit.   I tend to use my units as
> >> stand-alone, and don't pair them with anything useful except the
> >> reading-fingers. (Smiles.)
> >> I have approximately 7000 books from bookshare. Does the Orbit allow for
> >> folders of books, let's say, by subject?
> >> So all my history textbooks could be in a folder. when the folder is
> >> opened, the books would show up in alphabetical order?
> >> So just how does that SD card operate?  What sorts of limits are there
> >> to it?
> >> Thanks so much.
> >> Best,
> >> Penny (Golden)
> >> pengold2@...
> >>
> >> On 11/16/2018 10:49 AM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
> >>> Hi, Penny,
> >>>
> >>> You have the right slant on the Orbit reader. When set to its Stand Alone operation, the device is a simple word processor. It reads .txt, .brl a nd.brf documents.
> >>>
> >>> In its Remote Mode, it can be connected to devices either via a USB cable or bluetooth. Information on the connected device is shown on the Orbit's display.
> >>>
> >>> I only use the Orbit reader in Stand Alone.
> >>>
> >>> The Braille is excellent.  I thought I'd have difficulty with no speech and a 20 cell display, but I have had no problems at all.
> >>>
> >>> I use the device to keep wear and tear to a minimum on my U2. HIMS charges too much for most repairs.
> >>>
> >>> To sum up, I really enjoy my Orbit reader. Once you understand how to work with its Editor, I think You'll love it as well.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Giovanelli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
> >>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> >>> Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:00
> >>> Subject: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I've changed the subject line a bit.
> >>>> What I like about the Orbit so far is the price. I do not own one, but I own very expensive HIMS notetaking devices. I love them, but if they go down, I'm sunk.  Last year I would love to have gotten a few cells replaced on my 32-cell u2 device.  Nope; they couldn't do it; they wanted 2100 dollars to replace the entire braille display.
> >>>> That's four orbits, in case you're keeping score.
> >>>> I don't own an orbit yet.  I'm considering it.   It would be nice, first, to just be able to hold an orbit and work with it for 5 or 15 minutes.
> >>>> My understanding is that it will open whatever file you have and that is what you see.  if you have a text file, it does not translate it into braille, as we are so used to with our HIMS or braille-note type devices.
> >>>> There is no speech either, isn't that right?   And there's no flash memory, to store things. it's all done on an SD card, right?
> >>>> Someone with an Orbit or with knowledge of it, perhaps you will chime in and help me a little.
> >>>> If my inquiry is beyond the scope of what is desired on the list, I'll gladly move it into a private discussion.
> >>>> all best,
> >>>> Penny
> >>>> pengold2@...
> >>>> the old lady schoolmarm from Eastern Nebraska.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

                 John


Re: Length of a white cane?

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

I have found, as one who prefers to sweep my cane from side to side, making little or no noise, that if I hear people ahead of me in a hallway or something like that, switching to the classic tapping works like a charm! If people are standing in the middle of a hallway gabbing, they will tend to look around if they hear a tapping sound. It takes about five seconds, but the sound goes to their brains and the sight of me and my white cane combine there to give the message, "Hey, there's a blind lady coming, we better get out of the way."

As I say, works like a charm.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Orbit Questions

Gary Greico
 

I'm hearing that brf i

s formatted braille.


On 16-Nov-18 9:29 PM, Gene wrote:
I said before that you can just change the extensions.  But on thinking about it, that was an assumption.  Are there any differences between brf and brl other than the extension?  I have always assumed not but then, why are there two extensions?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions

Yes, Orbit Reader knows BRF.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 18:57
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions

>
>
> While bookshare books are available in daisy format, I get all mine with
> the brf extension.  Does the Orbit believe in brf or only in brl?  Yes,
> BAUD and I were old friends.
> But I was never the user that you all were.  You could probably have
> built an apple II E.
> Best, Penny
>
> Thanks. Penny
>
> On 11/16/2018 3:24 PM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
> >   Hi again,
> >
> > I remember that you were a BAUD su bscriber. I don't remember if we ever chatted.
> >
> > There are no problems with folders or daughter folders for that matter. The Reader can handle a 32 Gig SD card which means that you can have a ton of stuff in there.
> >
> > Book Share  books are audio books, right? Take note that there is no audio on this device. Braille is its only output.
> >
> > Joe G.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 12:03
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions
> >
> >>
> >> Joe, you and I go back to dos days.  How I remember with great fondness
> >> hearing you and the other old Apple folks chime in on the best ways to
> >> do things.
> >> Thanks for the info on the Orbit.   I tend to use my units as
> >> stand-alone, and don't pair them with anything useful except the
> >> reading-fingers. (Smiles.)
> >> I have approximately 7000 books from bookshare. Does the Orbit allow for
> >> folders of books, let's say, by subject?
> >> So all my history textbooks could be in a folder. when the folder is
> >> opened, the books would show up in alphabetical order?
> >> So just how does that SD card operate?  What sorts of limits are there
> >> to it?
> >> Thanks so much.
> >> Best,
> >> Penny (Golden)
> >> pengold2@...
> >>
> >> On 11/16/2018 10:49 AM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
> >>> Hi, Penny,
> >>>
> >>> You have the right slant on the Orbit reader. When set to its Stand Alone operation, the device is a simple word processor. It reads .txt, .brl a nd.brf documents.
> >>>
> >>> In its Remote Mode, it can be connected to devices either via a USB cable or bluetooth. Information on the connected device is shown on the Orbit's display.
> >>>
> >>> I only use the Orbit reader in Stand Alone.
> >>>
> >>> The Braille is excellent.  I thought I'd have difficulty with no speech and a 20 cell display, but I have had no problems at all.
> >>>
> >>> I use the device to keep wear and tear to a minimum on my U2. HIMS charges too much for most repairs.
> >>>
> >>> To sum up, I really enjoy my Orbit reader. Once you understand how to work with its Editor, I think You'll love it as well.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Giovanelli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
> >>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> >>> Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:00
> >>> Subject: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I've changed the subject line a bit.
> >>>> What I like about the Orbit so far is the price. I do not own one, but I own very expensive HIMS notetaking devices. I love them, but if they go down, I'm sunk.  Last year I would love to have gotten a few cells replaced on my 32-cell u2 device.  Nope; they couldn't do it; they wanted 2100 dollars to replace the entire braille display.
> >>>> That's four orbits, in case you're keeping score.
> >>>> I don't own an orbit yet.  I'm considering it.   It would be nice, first, to just be able to hold an orbit and work with it for 5 or 15 minutes.
> >>>> My understanding is that it will open whatever file you have and that is what you see.  if you have a text file, it does not translate it into braille, as we are so used to with our HIMS or braille-note type devices.
> >>>> There is no speech either, isn't that right?   And there's no flash memory, to store things. it's all done on an SD card, right?
> >>>> Someone with an Orbit or with knowledge of it, perhaps you will chime in and help me a little.
> >>>> If my inquiry is beyond the scope of what is desired on the list, I'll gladly move it into a private discussion.
> >>>> all best,
> >>>> Penny
> >>>> pengold2@...
> >>>> the old lady schoolmarm from Eastern Nebraska.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



Re: Length of a white cane?

Gene
 

Thinking that using a cane makes you dangerous to others is a bad way to look at it.  People have a responsibility to be aware of their surroundings.  Of course, you should be alert as well and if you hear someone coming, you should do your part to be out of their way.  But if someone isn't paying attention and doesn't see your cane, which is designed to be seen, it's very visible, that's their fault. 
 
It may be that if you really go overboard and get a ridiculously long cane, maybe taller than you are, that may make you too much of a hazard, but I don't think its at all unreasonable to use a proper cane for your needs.  And it isn't a blind person's responsibility to take on the responsibility of others.  Sighted people can see.  Like it or not, that makes things easier for them.  My heart doesn't bleed for the negligently careless sighted person who doesn't bother to know what is around them and canes are designed to be very visible.  I haven't thought about this until now, but it may be a valid argument that blind cane users should not use canes without reflective tape on them both for their own safety and that of others, to make the cane more visible.  Canes have reflective tape.  What else do careless people want--a siren attached?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
At 11:30 PM 11/16/2018, Penny Golden, wrote:

and I like a really pretty short cane.  The chin stuff makes me very uncomfortable.  I always extend my arm pretty far, and I like my cane, oh, about up to my waist.  I know I'm a hazzard, but i'm 71. so maybe not so much as one would think.

Penny.

Pam, you got snow yesterday; are you in New York?  There the snow was a surprise; they were talking about it on our radio station here in Omaha. Well, the station is in Omaha; i'm further west.



On 11/16/2018 7:31 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
You measure your cane by what feels comfortable for you to use.  This rib cage stuff is bonkers.  It makes you have to walk really very slow in order to use it.  My cames come up to at least my chin.  Pam.
Â
From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
Â

Hi List, I’m not a cane user, but a friend, who is no longer eligible for mobility training, needs to replace her cane. 

Â

She asked me what’s the going place for measuring yourself for your cain? Example, arm pit?

Â

Would this length of cain assume a tip of about 2 inches?  I ask this, since of course, tips come in many different sizes and thus, different lengths.

Â

Thanks very much for any advice!

Â

Sincerely, Vicky

Â

Virus-free. www.avg.com

                 John


Re: Length of a white cane?

Gene
 

I don't know what kinds of folding canes are available these days.  I know carbon fiber canes are available and I think you can still get aluminum folding canes, which I would never do.  I would never get an aluminum straight cane either.  There may be other kinds, in terms of material.  The days when folding canes were inferior to straight canes are over.  That's not to say that inferior canes of either variety aren't available but you don't have to get one.  I get a good folding cane but I never fold it unless space requirements make this necessary.  If I can slide it somewhere when I'm out, such as along a restaurant booth, and it isn't sticking out, I'll do that.  That makes the elastic last much longer.  I've had a certain folding cane for four or five years and the elastic is still in very good condition.  I also don't fold the cane unless necessary or desirable because it is a sign that I am not ashamed of being blind, that I recognize the value of the cane as a very useful tool, and I don't care who sees it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?

 
For someone who is starting out with a white cane for the first time and is not sure of the optimum length to choose, I would suggest estimating the proper length and then ordering a free white cane from the NFB before spending $20 or $30 for a cane that might wind up being too long or short.  If the NFB cane turns out to be the correct length, then a folding cane of the same length can be ordered from one of the blindness products merchants.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
 
These are rough estimates based on my experience and what I've heard from sources I trust and from other blind people who are good travelers.  I'm telling you the amalgomation of all this as my opinion, not representing the opinion of one or two people.
 
the armpit is a rough estimate and I would say that it is a suitable estimate for a rather slow walker.  A moderately fast walker, I would say, should have a cane an inch or two higher than the armpit.  and a fast walker, I would say, should have a cane an inch or two higher than that.  Canes aren't that expensive and the person might do well not to make too big a deal out of purchasing a cane.  If the purchased cane is too long or too short, you can buy another one for a price that is affordable for a lot of people.  I haven't purchased a cane for a number of years, but I think you can get them for something like twenty or thirty dollars. 
 
the tip size doesn't matter.  I doubt it makes more than between half an inch and an inch.  And long tips wear down with use. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:19 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
 

Hi List, I’m not a cane user, but a friend, who is no longer eligible for mobility training, needs to replace her cane. 

 

She asked me what’s the going place for measuring yourself for your cain? Example, arm pit?

 

Would this length of cain assume a tip of about 2 inches?  I ask this, since of course, tips come in many different sizes and thus, different lengths.

 

Thanks very much for any advice!

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: amerzon ehco

 

No problem.


Ashley Breger

On Nov 17, 2018, at 6:43 AM, A.Mac via Groups.Io <a.mcaneney=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

tanks for that.


On 17/11/2018 11:21, Ashley Breger via Groups.Io wrote:
You have to put your Wi-Fi password into the Alexa app and there are a few other steps that may require sighted help. I would be happy to walk you through the steps if you want to give me a call at 219-595-21to 3.


Ashley Breger

On Nov 17, 2018, at 2:57 AM, A.Mac via Groups.Io <a.mcaneney=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

hi all, i took the leap and bought a amerzon ehco 2 from amerzon on there black friday deal, i.e it was £35 cheaper.

my question is, i know that you have to down load the alexa app to your phone to set up your ehco , but in the app do you have to put in your wi-fi, and can it all be set up with siri ok or do you need sited help.


--
Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]




--
Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]




Re: Length of a white cane?

john s
 

I like a longer cane, up to my chin or so.  As I get older, my reflexes are slowing, so I need more time to react to someth8ing.  The extra length gives me more time.


At 11:30 PM 11/16/2018, Penny Golden, wrote:

and I like a really pretty short cane.  The chin stuff makes me very uncomfortable.  I always extend my arm pretty far, and I like my cane, oh, about up to my waist.  I know I'm a hazzard, but i'm 71. so maybe not so much as one would think.

Penny.

Pam, you got snow yesterday; are you in New York?  There the snow was a surprise; they were talking about it on our radio station here in Omaha. Well, the station is in Omaha; i'm further west.



On 11/16/2018 7:31 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
You measure your cane by what feels comfortable for you to use.  This rib cage stuff is bonkers.  It makes you have to walk really very slow in order to use it.  My cames come up to at least my chin.  Pam.
Â
From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
Â

Hi List, I’m not a cane user, but a friend, who is no longer eligible for mobility training, needs to replace her cane. 

Â

She asked me what’s the going place for measuring yourself for your cain? Example, arm pit?

Â

Would this length of cain assume a tip of about 2 inches?  I ask this, since of course, tips come in many different sizes and thus, different lengths.

Â

Thanks very much for any advice!

Â

Sincerely, Vicky

Â

Virus-free. www.avg.com

                 John


Re: Orbit Questions

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

A BRF file is a formatted one, brl is just like a txt file.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: amerzon ehco

A.Mac
 

tanks for that.

On 17/11/2018 11:21, Ashley Breger via Groups.Io wrote:
You have to put your Wi-Fi password into the Alexa app and there are a few other steps that may require sighted help. I would be happy to walk you through the steps if you want to give me a call at 219-595-21to 3.


Ashley Breger

On Nov 17, 2018, at 2:57 AM, A.Mac via Groups.Io <a.mcaneney=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

hi all, i took the leap and bought a amerzon ehco 2 from amerzon on there black friday deal, i.e it was £35 cheaper.

my question is, i know that you have to down load the alexa app to your phone to set up your ehco , but in the app do you have to put in your wi-fi, and can it all be set up with siri ok or do you need sited help.


--
Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]




--
Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]


Re: Length of a white cane?

Gerald Levy
 

 
For someone who is starting out with a white cane for the first time and is not sure of the optimum length to choose, I would suggest estimating the proper length and then ordering a free white cane from the NFB before spending $20 or $30 for a cane that might wind up being too long or short.  If the NFB cane turns out to be the correct length, then a folding cane of the same length can be ordered from one of the blindness products merchants.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
 
These are rough estimates based on my experience and what I've heard from sources I trust and from other blind people who are good travelers.  I'm telling you the amalgomation of all this as my opinion, not representing the opinion of one or two people.
 
the armpit is a rough estimate and I would say that it is a suitable estimate for a rather slow walker.  A moderately fast walker, I would say, should have a cane an inch or two higher than the armpit.  and a fast walker, I would say, should have a cane an inch or two higher than that.  Canes aren't that expensive and the person might do well not to make too big a deal out of purchasing a cane.  If the purchased cane is too long or too short, you can buy another one for a price that is affordable for a lot of people.  I haven't purchased a cane for a number of years, but I think you can get them for something like twenty or thirty dollars. 
 
the tip size doesn't matter.  I doubt it makes more than between half an inch and an inch.  And long tips wear down with use. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 7:19 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
 

Hi List, I’m not a cane user, but a friend, who is no longer eligible for mobility training, needs to replace her cane. 

 

She asked me what’s the going place for measuring yourself for your cain? Example, arm pit?

 

Would this length of cain assume a tip of about 2 inches?  I ask this, since of course, tips come in many different sizes and thus, different lengths.

 

Thanks very much for any advice!

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 


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Re: IE opening when choosing to open email in browser

Gene
 

It isn't about short cut links.  It's about a message opening in IE11 when you tell Outlook to display the message you have opened in a browser.  That's an Outlook command.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] IE opening when choosing to open email in browser

Hi Cristóbal,
 
If the shortcut link you click on was made using IE11 that is why they open in IE11.  For the same link to open in either Firefox or Chrome they would have to been made using either of those browsers.  If I'm wrong someone will correct me.
Take care.  Go Rams!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:28 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] IE opening when choosing to open email in browser

Hello list,

I have Chrome as my default browser on one machine and Firefox on the other. Both running Outlook 2016 on Win 10 operating systems.

When I get one of those HTML rich emails, be it a newsletter or receipt or promotional sale or what have you where it’s just easier to view in the browser, I’ll with the message open, do the alt + H, A, V for the view this email in browser command. The email without fail always opens in IE.

Is there perhaps a setting I’m missing be it in Outlook or in the system settings to correct this behavior?

Thanks,

Cristobal


Re: amerzon ehco

 

You have to put your Wi-Fi password into the Alexa app and there are a few other steps that may require sighted help. I would be happy to walk you through the steps if you want to give me a call at 219-595-21to 3.


Ashley Breger

On Nov 17, 2018, at 2:57 AM, A.Mac via Groups.Io <a.mcaneney=ntlworld.com@groups.io> wrote:

hi all, i took the leap and bought a amerzon ehco 2 from amerzon on there black friday deal, i.e it was £35 cheaper.

my question is, i know that you have to down load the alexa app to your phone to set up your ehco , but in the app do you have to put in your wi-fi, and can it all be set up with siri ok or do you need sited help.


--
Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
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new accessible swimming tracker device!

goshawk on horseback
 

have recently come across this new  device.
am very excited about it myself, as it is specifically designed to speak to you, rather than be looked at, so has  audio feedback, and proper buttons. I have previously been using the apple watch as a swimming tracker, but I really do think this new device is going to do a much better job, with better audio feedback, and at a very considerably lower cost.
the apps for iPhone and android,  both seem to be  very accessible from the outset, but haven't really gone in to all there features yet.
there are also some good videos on the support page, which do give quite a bit of useful info, although as they feature sighted people doing things with the apps, some of there usefulness does get a bit lost.
the link for this new device is:
http://www.platysens.com/marlin/ 
Simon
 
 


amerzon ehco

A.Mac
 

hi all, i took the leap and bought a amerzon ehco 2 from amerzon on there  black friday deal, i.e it was £35 cheaper.

my question is, i know that you have to down load the alexa app to your phone to set up your ehco , but in the app do you have to put in your  wi-fi, and can it all be set up with siri ok or do you need sited help.


--
Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
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[Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

David Goldfield
 

The following message is from Brian Hartgen and was posted to the Leasey support list.



Several weeks ago, we were asked if a training course could be created to teach people how to use Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS. People not only wanted to learn how to prepare visually appealing PowerPoint presentations, (including adding graphical images), but also how to add music or sound to them, run the presentations as slide shows and add or review Speakers Notes.

 

This training course has now been researched and it is possible this could be produced in January of 2019. Teaching this subject however is very high risk in a number of areas.

 

As blind people managing our small company, we will need to ensure that visual assistance is obtained so as to include visually appealing graphics of the required dimensions. But most importantly, it is our view that the support currently provided in terms of screen-reading with PowerPoint from Office 365 is simply not sufficient for what we need to do. Conveying this subject in easy to understand terms was always going to be tricky, but to do so when the access you will receive in this area has shortcomings is even more problematic.

 

A basic example would be accessing the Speakers Notes. These are notes or reminders to you, the person delivering the presentation, as to what you can say above and beyond what is stated in the slide the audience is viewing. There used to be a keystroke which would allow focus to be set to that area of the screen. This is no longer possible. Moreover, if you are using a Braille display, how are you going to read those notes without disturbing visual focus away from the application? A mechanism for listening to those notes also needs to be found. There are also a large number of other inaccessible areas which need some attention.

 

To that end, as with all our training courses, we would need please a commitment from anyone interested to make the project viable. This would allow for the delivery of the training course together with bringing the existing JAWS support up-to-date.

We have had a small number of people expressing an interest in this subject so far, but whether it goes ahead really does boil down to what kind of commitment we do receive.

 

The training course would be delivered over a four-hour period in January of 2019. It would include details of many aspects of creating presentations in an accessible way, identifying (as far as possible) whether the presentations were visually acceptable, navigating through slides, working with visual themes, using tables and bulleted lists, editing presentations, delivering your presentation to an audience, and more. A full course outline would be presented if the training course goes ahead.

 

If you would like to purchase this training course, please write to brian@.... We will then send to you an invoice for payment. Assuming we have enough committed people to make the course viable, then we will present the details formally on our website with a full course outline. The cost would be £50 which is currently $62. We would ideally need to hear from you by 7 December 2018 because that will give sufficient time for the JAWS scripting work to go ahead prior to the commencement of the training course in 2019.

 

If we do not receive a sufficient response, unfortunately we cannot take this project further because there are many hours of work ahead even before a training course of this magnitude can start to be prepared.

 

We very much look forward to hearing from anyone interested in what could be an interesting venture.

 

Brian Hartgen

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Re: IE opening when choosing to open email in browser

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Cristóbal,
 
If the shortcut link you click on was made using IE11 that is why they open in IE11.  For the same link to open in either Firefox or Chrome they would have to been made using either of those browsers.  If I'm wrong someone will correct me.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:28 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] IE opening when choosing to open email in browser

Hello list,

I have Chrome as my default browser on one machine and Firefox on the other. Both running Outlook 2016 on Win 10 operating systems.

When I get one of those HTML rich emails, be it a newsletter or receipt or promotional sale or what have you where it’s just easier to view in the browser, I’ll with the message open, do the alt + H, A, V for the view this email in browser command. The email without fail always opens in IE.

Is there perhaps a setting I’m missing be it in Outlook or in the system settings to correct this behavior?

Thanks,

Cristobal


Re: Orbit Questions

Penny Golden
 


It seems to me that one of the extensions, brf or brl, does a little more formatting than the other.  Just out of curiosity, can you rename a file on the ORBIT?
Aman suggested I get an Orbit to look at; well, I'm not in a particular rush; so I figured that if I waited long enough, I'd run into a fellow blind reader or dealer in such things and see for myself. I think it is a great low-cost solution for those of us who need our braille displays, but who might have to send an expensive one away for awhile.
Pen
pengold2@...
 

On 11/16/2018 8:29 PM, Gene wrote:
I said before that you can just change the extensions.  But on thinking about it, that was an assumption.  Are there any differences between brf and brl other than the extension?  I have always assumed not but then, why are there two extensions?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions

Yes, Orbit Reader knows BRF.

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 18:57
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions

>
>
> While bookshare books are available in daisy format, I get all mine with
> the brf extension.  Does the Orbit believe in brf or only in brl?  Yes,
> BAUD and I were old friends.
> But I was never the user that you all were.  You could probably have
> built an apple II E.
> Best, Penny
>
> Thanks. Penny
>
> On 11/16/2018 3:24 PM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
> >   Hi again,
> >
> > I remember that you were a BAUD su bscriber. I don't remember if we ever chatted.
> >
> > There are no problems with folders or daughter folders for that matter. The Reader can handle a 32 Gig SD card which means that you can have a ton of stuff in there.
> >
> > Book Share  books are audio books, right? Take note that there is no audio on this device. Braille is its only output.
> >
> > Joe G.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
> > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> > Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 12:03
> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions
> >
> >>
> >> Joe, you and I go back to dos days.  How I remember with great fondness
> >> hearing you and the other old Apple folks chime in on the best ways to
> >> do things.
> >> Thanks for the info on the Orbit.   I tend to use my units as
> >> stand-alone, and don't pair them with anything useful except the
> >> reading-fingers. (Smiles.)
> >> I have approximately 7000 books from bookshare. Does the Orbit allow for
> >> folders of books, let's say, by subject?
> >> So all my history textbooks could be in a folder. when the folder is
> >> opened, the books would show up in alphabetical order?
> >> So just how does that SD card operate?  What sorts of limits are there
> >> to it?
> >> Thanks so much.
> >> Best,
> >> Penny (Golden)
> >> pengold2@...
> >>
> >> On 11/16/2018 10:49 AM, Joe Giovanelli wrote:
> >>> Hi, Penny,
> >>>
> >>> You have the right slant on the Orbit reader. When set to its Stand Alone operation, the device is a simple word processor. It reads .txt, .brl a nd.brf documents.
> >>>
> >>> In its Remote Mode, it can be connected to devices either via a USB cable or bluetooth. Information on the connected device is shown on the Orbit's display.
> >>>
> >>> I only use the Orbit reader in Stand Alone.
> >>>
> >>> The Braille is excellent.  I thought I'd have difficulty with no speech and a 20 cell display, but I have had no problems at all.
> >>>
> >>> I use the device to keep wear and tear to a minimum on my U2. HIMS charges too much for most repairs.
> >>>
> >>> To sum up, I really enjoy my Orbit reader. Once you understand how to work with its Editor, I think You'll love it as well.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Giovanelli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Penny Golden  <pengold2@...>
> >>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> >>> Date: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:00
> >>> Subject: [TechTalk] Orbit Questions
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I've changed the subject line a bit.
> >>>> What I like about the Orbit so far is the price. I do not own one, but I own very expensive HIMS notetaking devices. I love them, but if they go down, I'm sunk.  Last year I would love to have gotten a few cells replaced on my 32-cell u2 device.  Nope; they couldn't do it; they wanted 2100 dollars to replace the entire braille display.
> >>>> That's four orbits, in case you're keeping score.
> >>>> I don't own an orbit yet.  I'm considering it.   It would be nice, first, to just be able to hold an orbit and work with it for 5 or 15 minutes.
> >>>> My understanding is that it will open whatever file you have and that is what you see.  if you have a text file, it does not translate it into braille, as we are so used to with our HIMS or braille-note type devices.
> >>>> There is no speech either, isn't that right?   And there's no flash memory, to store things. it's all done on an SD card, right?
> >>>> Someone with an Orbit or with knowledge of it, perhaps you will chime in and help me a little.
> >>>> If my inquiry is beyond the scope of what is desired on the list, I'll gladly move it into a private discussion.
> >>>> all best,
> >>>> Penny
> >>>> pengold2@...
> >>>> the old lady schoolmarm from Eastern Nebraska.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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