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Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Blaster,


Thank you for this listing.  I knew I wasn't totally nuts over this--just partially <guffaw>!

On 9/24/2018 9:44 AM, Blaster wrote:
After Ron brought up the Able, Baker version of this alphabet I looked
it up and found the following info. An excellent resource if your ever
trapped behind enemy lines and need to contact the allied forces,
hahaha.

The old U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet:
Able
Baker
Charlie
Dog
Easy
Fox
George
How
Item
Jig
King
Love
Mike
Nan
Oboe
Peter
Queen
Roger
Sugar
Tare
Uncle
Victor
William
X-ray
Yoke
Zebra

The Western Union Phonetic Alphabet:
Adams
Boston
Chicago
Denver
Easy
Frank
George
Henry
Ida John
King
Lincoln
Mary
NewYork
Ocean
Peter
Queen
Roger
Sugar
Thomas
Union
Victor
William
X-ray
Young
Zero

In Asia you will still find a variant of the following phonetic
alphabet in common use, even by Airline Reservations staff (although
the pilots, of course, use the International standard):
Australia
Bombay
China
Delhi
England
Fiji
Geneva
HongKong
India Japan
KualaLumpur
London
Malaysia
Norway
Osaka
Penang
Queensland
Russia Singapore
Taiwan
Uganda
Vietnam
Wellington
X-ray

Yokohama
Zanzibar


Over and out,
Blaster


On 9/24/18, Smiling? <blind7@...> wrote:
The phonetics for the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) are as follows:

Alpha

Bravo

Charlie

Delta

Echo

Foxtrot

Golf

Hotel

Indiana

Juliet

Kilo

Lima

Mike

Nebraska or November

Oscar

Papa

Quebec

Romeo

Sierra

Tango

Uniform

Victor

Whisky

XRay

Yankee

Zeebra or Zulu.



N and Z are the only two letters where there’s an option for the user to
determine which to use otherwise, this has been the FAA’s phonetic list for
several decades.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet



Hi Mike and Group,



The phonetics you site are used by the military and amateur radio services.
I am almost sure that there is actually a separate set of phonetics used by
civilian authorities and private airlines. I don't remember a lot of them,
but they are something like:

able

baker

Charles

dog

Edward



but I'm guessing at a lot of them so I'll stop here.





On 9/23/2018 9:38 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Here you go:



The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26
letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows:
Alfa
Bravo
Charlie
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Golf
Hotel
India
Juliett
Kilo
Lima
Mike
November
Oscar
Papa
Quebec
Romeo
Sierra
Tango
Uniform
Victor
Whiskey
X-ray
Yankee
Zulu

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Matzura <mailto:number6@...>

To: TechTalk <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet








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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"






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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Kendal Reader for the PC question

Dave
 

Hello,

I use the Kendal Read for the PC to read Books that are not found in an
Audio format. And for the most part, NVDA actually reads the Kendal
Books very well.

Recently, I have purchased three books that are read with a different
voice than the Default in NVDA.

And I do not have Control over what is read. If I wish to re-read a
line or paragraph, there is no going back. And the voice isn't all that
good either.

Was wondering if the use of this alternate voice has to do with how the
Book was formatted for the Kendal, or if there is another reason why the
alternative voice is used.

All other Books in my library read with the Default voice of NVDA or
JAWS. But it is only these three Books that always read with what seems
to be a Built In voice to the Kendal for PC program.

I suppose it is better than nothing, but just barely.

Grumpy Dave


Re: How to get rid of Avast

Blaster
 

You may need to use their manual removal tool, found here:

https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility

You'll need to run this in safe mode,
HTH,
Blaster

On 9/24/18, Fanus <buys.fanus@...> wrote:
Hello list
Avast got installed on my pc without my permission. It slows down the pc
considerably. I try to remove it with Add and Remove but although it says it
is uninstalling when I switch my pc on, it is still there. Can anyone tell
me how to let it vanish?
Regards
Fanus






Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

Blaster
 

After Ron brought up the Able, Baker version of this alphabet I looked
it up and found the following info. An excellent resource if your ever
trapped behind enemy lines and need to contact the allied forces,
hahaha.

The old U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet:
Able
Baker
Charlie
Dog
Easy
Fox
George
How
Item
Jig
King
Love
Mike
Nan
Oboe
Peter
Queen
Roger
Sugar
Tare
Uncle
Victor
William
X-ray
Yoke
Zebra

The Western Union Phonetic Alphabet:
Adams
Boston
Chicago
Denver
Easy
Frank
George
Henry
Ida John
King
Lincoln
Mary
NewYork
Ocean
Peter
Queen
Roger
Sugar
Thomas
Union
Victor
William
X-ray
Young
Zero

In Asia you will still find a variant of the following phonetic
alphabet in common use, even by Airline Reservations staff (although
the pilots, of course, use the International standard):
Australia
Bombay
China
Delhi
England
Fiji
Geneva
HongKong
India Japan
KualaLumpur
London
Malaysia
Norway
Osaka
Penang
Queensland
Russia Singapore
Taiwan
Uganda
Vietnam
Wellington
X-ray

Yokohama
Zanzibar


Over and out,
Blaster

On 9/24/18, Smiling? <blind7@...> wrote:
The phonetics for the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) are as follows:

Alpha

Bravo

Charlie

Delta

Echo

Foxtrot

Golf

Hotel

Indiana

Juliet

Kilo

Lima

Mike

Nebraska or November

Oscar

Papa

Quebec

Romeo

Sierra

Tango

Uniform

Victor

Whisky

XRay

Yankee

Zeebra or Zulu.



N and Z are the only two letters where there’s an option for the user to
determine which to use otherwise, this has been the FAA’s phonetic list for
several decades.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet



Hi Mike and Group,



The phonetics you site are used by the military and amateur radio services.
I am almost sure that there is actually a separate set of phonetics used by
civilian authorities and private airlines. I don't remember a lot of them,
but they are something like:

able

baker

Charles

dog

Edward



but I'm guessing at a lot of them so I'll stop here.





On 9/23/2018 9:38 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Here you go:



The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26
letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows:
Alfa
Bravo
Charlie
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Golf
Hotel
India
Juliett
Kilo
Lima
Mike
November
Oscar
Papa
Quebec
Romeo
Sierra
Tango
Uniform
Victor
Whiskey
X-ray
Yankee
Zulu

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Matzura <mailto:number6@...>

To: TechTalk <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet








--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"







Re: safely downgrading firefox

Smiling?
 

Just use a portable copy, link below.

Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition Legacy 52 (customizable web browser) | PortableApps.com:
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox-portable-legacy-52

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:29 PM
To: techtalk
Subject: [TechTalk] safely downgrading firefox

Hello,

I got a report from a user here that their Firefox was slow and was
not running any of their addons, I checked it and it had upgraded to
60.x not sure how as the mozilla maintenance service was not
installed.

Anyway, I need to be able to uninstall/downgrade firefox 60.x back to
52.x-esr and I need to do it without loosing things, site history,
bookmarks, etc

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

Smiling?
 

The phonetics for the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) are as follows:

Alpha

Bravo

Charlie

Delta

Echo

Foxtrot

Golf

Hotel

Indiana

Juliet

Kilo

Lima

Mike

Nebraska or November

Oscar

Papa

Quebec

Romeo

Sierra

Tango

Uniform

Victor

Whisky

XRay

Yankee

Zeebra or Zulu.

 

N and Z are the only two letters where there’s an option for the user to determine which to use otherwise, this has been the FAA’s phonetic list for several decades.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

 

Hi Mike and Group,

 

The phonetics you site are used by the military and amateur radio services. I am almost sure that there is actually a separate set of phonetics used by civilian authorities and private airlines.  I don't remember a lot of them, but they are something like:

able

baker

Charles

dog

Edward

 

but I'm guessing at a lot of them so I'll stop here.

 

 

On 9/23/2018 9:38 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Here you go:

 

The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26 letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows: 
 Alfa
 Bravo
 Charlie
 Delta
 Echo
 Foxtrot
 Golf
 Hotel
 India
 Juliett
 Kilo
 Lima
 Mike
 November
 Oscar
 Papa
 Quebec
 Romeo
 Sierra
 Tango
 Uniform
 Victor
 Whiskey
 X-ray
 Yankee
 Zulu

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet




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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


How to get rid of Avast

Fanus
 

Hello list
Avast got installed on my pc without my permission. It slows down the pc considerably. I try to remove it with Add and Remove but although it says it is uninstalling when I switch my pc on, it is still there. Can anyone tell me how to let it vanish?
Regards
Fanus
 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Facebook leave a group?

Shelly Kane
 

Thank you for that information.  It must have changed recently. When I did it last year, I could do it from the mobile Facebook page.  At least we all know now.

Shelly

On 9/23/2018 3:13 PM, Ann Marie Medlar wrote:
Okay I needed to go on
Facebook.com
And not M.facebook.com
Leave group button found.
Thanks,
Ann


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Marie Medlar
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Facebook leave a group?

Thanks.
I go to M.facebook.com enter on groups
I am in 21 groups and way too busy. I enter on first group and menu is above alt+5. I enter on menu and do not see leave button. I use Jaws search key to find leave and nothing. I press b for button and only find search.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Facebook leave a group?

Ann:


When you go to the group that you want to leave, click on it and then go to where it says menu. When you get there, you should be able to find a leave button. You just click on that and it may want you to confirm it but not sure. It may just come off your list of groups. Hope this helps. Let me know if this works for you.

Shelly


On 9/21/2018 3:17 PM, Ann Marie Medlar wrote:
Hi all,
I am on a desktop, Windows10, Jaws2018 latest version, using IE to
open https://m.facebook.com/ I google leave a group on Facebook To
leave a group, go to the group, click Joined at the top and then
select Leave Group. When you leave a group: Members won't be notified. You're removed from the member list and the group will be removed from your list of groups I cannot find leave button.
Thanks,
Ann















robobraille with IOS 11.4.1

Bharat
 

Hi all,

has anyone used robobraille with IOS 11.4.1? I copied one of the
files to the files drive, completed all the steps, it even told me the
file was uploaded & showed me the file size as well, I filled up all
the information & clicked on submit but got no result.

please help.

thank you,

bharat.


Re: Facebook leave a group?

Shelly Kane
 

I have no idea why you can't leave the group.  I'll go on facebook and try it and see what happens.  Maybe something has changed with facebook.  Sorry about that.

Shelly

On 9/23/2018 12:03 PM, Ann Marie Medlar wrote:
Thanks.
I go to M.facebook.com enter on groups
I am in 21 groups and way too busy. I enter on first group and menu is above alt+5. I enter on menu and do not see leave button. I use Jaws search key to find leave and nothing. I press b for button and only find search.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Facebook leave a group?

Ann:


When you go to the group that you want to leave, click on it and then go to where it says menu. When you get there, you should be able to find a leave button. You just click on that and it may want you to confirm it but not sure. It may just come off your list of groups. Hope this helps. Let me know if this works for you.

Shelly


On 9/21/2018 3:17 PM, Ann Marie Medlar wrote:
Hi all,
I am on a desktop, Windows10, Jaws2018 latest version, using IE to
open https://m.facebook.com/ I google leave a group on Facebook To
leave a group, go to the group, click Joined at the top and then
select Leave Group. When you leave a group: Members won't be notified. You're removed from the member list and the group will be removed from your list of groups I cannot find leave button.
Thanks,
Ann










.


Re: Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Gene
 

The address of the web site is:
There is no suffix, if that is the correct term.  I don't know why.  I tested just using the address shown in the address bar and it works.
 
You may find things you are interested in aside from this one tutorial. 
 
Cathy Anne Murtha provides, on this page, the first lesson of her Windows 10 and JAWS book as a free sample:
I can't tell from the description if Windows 10 is used for the training but I would think it would be.  You may want to inquire:
 
The book is more expensive than I thought.  it's about ninety-four dollars.
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

I would appreciate the info on the tutorial 's author website.
 
here is my email address if you could be so kind as to send me the website link.
 
Thanks Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

If you want to spend money, you can get a detailed long tutorial from Cathy Anne Murtha.  I'll provide further information about her web site if you wish.  If you don't know things like what commands you use are Windows commands and which commands are screen-reader commands, that is one thing you will learn.  If you received poor instruction and do a lot of things by rote, you will understand Windows and program structures such as combo boxes dialogs, etc. and you won't just do things by rote.  I believe the detailed tutorial or book costs about seventy dollars. 
 
Others will likely suggest other material but that is a resource I know of that is very high quality. 
 
Once you finish with it, you will be able to switch to other screen-readers such as NVDA or use more than one because you will thoroughly understand that most of what you do is use Windows commands and program commands and that once you learn perhaps fifteen or twenty screen-reader commands, you can do a lot or most of what you did before.  The book teaches using Windows with JAWS but in the context of teaching you things such as I've mentioned with the goal of having you really understand what you are doing and not being captive to any one screen-reader. 
 
I don't know if you restricted yourself to one screen-reader but doing so means that if one screen-reader does something better or if one screen-reader doesn't do something at all, you can try another. 
 
I usually use NVDA but I have a JAWS demo on my machine as well as an old copy of a Window-eyes demo because you never know when you might want to use another screen-reader.  Depending on how you use a computer, you may or may not have much, if any, use for other screen-readers, but many bline Windows users have more than one available even if they use one for most or almost all things.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

all available tutorials, and documentation would be much appreciated.  I am simply lost and do not know how to start using jaws.  Some commands are similiar in we and jaws but I am thinking those commands are window native commands and not so much screen reader specific commands that I know.
 
Thanks for the info
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

As a former JAWS user who knew a good deal about Window-eyes, I'll say that your main problems using JAWS may be that you don't know certain commands that do the same things in JAWS and Window-eyes and that you don't know the basic difference between the available cursors in the two programs.  Do you want suggestions about tutorials or documentation?  A lot of what you do should be very similar once you learn equivalent commands.  As far as the JAWS cursor is concerned, you turn it on and off in JAWS.  It isn't on all the time, as the Mouse Pointer is in Window-eyes.  In JAWS, you turn the JAWS cursor on with numpad minus, the key the farthest to the right on the top row of the numpad.  But in this case, you want to make sure it is both on and in the right window, where you are working.  The command numpad insert numpad minus, hold numpad insert and while doing so, press numpad minus, routes the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor. You use all the same navigation commands with the JAWS cursor, up and down arrow, control home and end, etc. to move around the window.  There aren't different commands, as in the Mouse Pointer.  There is somewhat more to learn but to move around the window as you want to do, that's all you have to know now.
 
To go back to the PC cursor, which   is what you were working with before, issue the command Numpad plus, the long key immediately below numpad minus.  That is, the long key on the farthest right column of keys that is right below the small key.  There are two long keys.  The one you want is the one above the long key that is the farthest down.  It's the middle key. 
 
In Windows 10, the JAWS cursor does much less than in earlier versions of Windows.  You can see if it reads what you want it to read.  If not, you may have to use the Touch Cursor, which I know nothing about, not having used JAWS to any extent for years.  Someone else can discuss that.  And JAWS users can refer you to JAWS training materials if you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Okay, someone on list suggested I give the stats on my windows 10 computer to the group to see what is slowing down my operation, compared to my xp machine.

I followed the directions to open up the direct x diagnosis page and I now need help in navigating the screens. In particular, I need some direction on how to go line by line in a screen taht does not act like a text document, whether is be wordpad, notepad or word.

I am a former Window eyes user and we had the "virtual mouse" using the numpad with num-lock off and we could hit the 8 and 2 keys to go up or down, line by line and have the screen reader read the line.

 

In jaws, what is the comprable actions to what I described to the window eyes navigation?

 

Not doing well with jaws and am really hating not using my new computer due to taht and the slowness of jaws on it.

Thanks

Keith


Change Custom Hotkeys, Windows 10

Rob Hudson
 

I have a wireless keyboard, and on the top of it are several pre programmed buttons that launch things such as calculator, mail, web, volume up/down, etc.
Somehow, and I don't know how, my right control key got programmed to launch the calculator. The keyboard was already half broken, anyway, so I ditched it. But, for future occurrences, where, in windows 10, can you go to fix something like that?


Re: Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Keith S
 

I would appreciate the info on the tutorial 's author website.
 
here is my email address if you could be so kind as to send me the website link.
 
Thanks Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

If you want to spend money, you can get a detailed long tutorial from Cathy Anne Murtha.  I'll provide further information about her web site if you wish.  If you don't know things like what commands you use are Windows commands and which commands are screen-reader commands, that is one thing you will learn.  If you received poor instruction and do a lot of things by rote, you will understand Windows and program structures such as combo boxes dialogs, etc. and you won't just do things by rote.  I believe the detailed tutorial or book costs about seventy dollars. 
 
Others will likely suggest other material but that is a resource I know of that is very high quality. 
 
Once you finish with it, you will be able to switch to other screen-readers such as NVDA or use more than one because you will thoroughly understand that most of what you do is use Windows commands and program commands and that once you learn perhaps fifteen or twenty screen-reader commands, you can do a lot or most of what you did before.  The book teaches using Windows with JAWS but in the context of teaching you things such as I've mentioned with the goal of having you really understand what you are doing and not being captive to any one screen-reader. 
 
I don't know if you restricted yourself to one screen-reader but doing so means that if one screen-reader does something better or if one screen-reader doesn't do something at all, you can try another. 
 
I usually use NVDA but I have a JAWS demo on my machine as well as an old copy of a Window-eyes demo because you never know when you might want to use another screen-reader.  Depending on how you use a computer, you may or may not have much, if any, use for other screen-readers, but many bline Windows users have more than one available even if they use one for most or almost all things.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

all available tutorials, and documentation would be much appreciated.  I am simply lost and do not know how to start using jaws.  Some commands are similiar in we and jaws but I am thinking those commands are window native commands and not so much screen reader specific commands that I know.
 
Thanks for the info
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

As a former JAWS user who knew a good deal about Window-eyes, I'll say that your main problems using JAWS may be that you don't know certain commands that do the same things in JAWS and Window-eyes and that you don't know the basic difference between the available cursors in the two programs.  Do you want suggestions about tutorials or documentation?  A lot of what you do should be very similar once you learn equivalent commands.  As far as the JAWS cursor is concerned, you turn it on and off in JAWS.  It isn't on all the time, as the Mouse Pointer is in Window-eyes.  In JAWS, you turn the JAWS cursor on with numpad minus, the key the farthest to the right on the top row of the numpad.  But in this case, you want to make sure it is both on and in the right window, where you are working.  The command numpad insert numpad minus, hold numpad insert and while doing so, press numpad minus, routes the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor. You use all the same navigation commands with the JAWS cursor, up and down arrow, control home and end, etc. to move around the window.  There aren't different commands, as in the Mouse Pointer.  There is somewhat more to learn but to move around the window as you want to do, that's all you have to know now.
 
To go back to the PC cursor, which   is what you were working with before, issue the command Numpad plus, the long key immediately below numpad minus.  That is, the long key on the farthest right column of keys that is right below the small key.  There are two long keys.  The one you want is the one above the long key that is the farthest down.  It's the middle key. 
 
In Windows 10, the JAWS cursor does much less than in earlier versions of Windows.  You can see if it reads what you want it to read.  If not, you may have to use the Touch Cursor, which I know nothing about, not having used JAWS to any extent for years.  Someone else can discuss that.  And JAWS users can refer you to JAWS training materials if you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Okay, someone on list suggested I give the stats on my windows 10 computer to the group to see what is slowing down my operation, compared to my xp machine.

I followed the directions to open up the direct x diagnosis page and I now need help in navigating the screens. In particular, I need some direction on how to go line by line in a screen taht does not act like a text document, whether is be wordpad, notepad or word.

I am a former Window eyes user and we had the "virtual mouse" using the numpad with num-lock off and we could hit the 8 and 2 keys to go up or down, line by line and have the screen reader read the line.

 

In jaws, what is the comprable actions to what I described to the window eyes navigation?

 

Not doing well with jaws and am really hating not using my new computer due to taht and the slowness of jaws on it.

Thanks

Keith


Re: FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

Doug Sloan
 

Sorry the email program is outlook

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

 

In which e-mail program?

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Doug Sloan

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:03 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

 

Hi

Could someone please let me know the key strokes to turn off the return receipt as listed below I’m not sure what I’ve done I’m using the latest jaws windows 7

Cheers

Doug

24-09-2018

_____________________________________________
From: rick krolik [mailto:richard_krolik@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:46 AM
To: Doug Sloan <sloany50@...>
Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

This is a Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to richard_krolik@....

Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was displayed on the recipient's computer. There is no guarantee that the recipient has read or understood the message contents.


windows live mail/instead of seeing my folders list i see a bunch of buttons

joanne
 

Usually I have my list of email messages, and then tabbing once I see my list of folders--in box, junk mail, etc. But now, next to my list of messages, there are buttons like "shortcut expander," "sync," and a few others. The list of folders isn't there. How do I get rid of these buttons and put it back to a folder list view? Using Windows Live Mail and windows 7.
 
Thank you.


Re: FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

Gene
 

In which e-mail program?
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
From: Doug Sloan
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:03 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

Hi

Could someone please let me know the key strokes to turn off the return receipt as listed below I’m not sure what I’ve done I’m using the latest jaws windows 7

Cheers

Doug

24-09-2018

_____________________________________________
From: rick krolik [mailto:richard_krolik@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:46 AM
To: Doug Sloan <sloany50@...>
Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

This is a Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to richard_krolik@....

Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was displayed on the recipient's computer. There is no guarantee that the recipient has read or understood the message contents.


Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Mike and Group,


The phonetics you site are used by the military and amateur radio services. I am almost sure that there is actually a separate set of phonetics used by civilian authorities and private airlines.  I don't remember a lot of them, but they are something like:

able

baker

Charles

dog

Edward


but I'm guessing at a lot of them so I'll stop here.



On 9/23/2018 9:38 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Here you go:
 
The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26 letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows: 
 Alfa
 Bravo
 Charlie
 Delta
 Echo
 Foxtrot
 Golf
 Hotel
 India
 Juliett
 Kilo
 Lima
 Mike
 November
 Oscar
 Papa
 Quebec
 Romeo
 Sierra
 Tango
 Uniform
 Victor
 Whiskey
 X-ray
 Yankee
 Zulu
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet




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Re: Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Gene
 

If you want to spend money, you can get a detailed long tutorial from Cathy Anne Murtha.  I'll provide further information about her web site if you wish.  If you don't know things like what commands you use are Windows commands and which commands are screen-reader commands, that is one thing you will learn.  If you received poor instruction and do a lot of things by rote, you will understand Windows and program structures such as combo boxes dialogs, etc. and you won't just do things by rote.  I believe the detailed tutorial or book costs about seventy dollars. 
 
Others will likely suggest other material but that is a resource I know of that is very high quality. 
 
Once you finish with it, you will be able to switch to other screen-readers such as NVDA or use more than one because you will thoroughly understand that most of what you do is use Windows commands and program commands and that once you learn perhaps fifteen or twenty screen-reader commands, you can do a lot or most of what you did before.  The book teaches using Windows with JAWS but in the context of teaching you things such as I've mentioned with the goal of having you really understand what you are doing and not being captive to any one screen-reader. 
 
I don't know if you restricted yourself to one screen-reader but doing so means that if one screen-reader does something better or if one screen-reader doesn't do something at all, you can try another. 
 
I usually use NVDA but I have a JAWS demo on my machine as well as an old copy of a Window-eyes demo because you never know when you might want to use another screen-reader.  Depending on how you use a computer, you may or may not have much, if any, use for other screen-readers, but many bline Windows users have more than one available even if they use one for most or almost all things.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

all available tutorials, and documentation would be much appreciated.  I am simply lost and do not know how to start using jaws.  Some commands are similiar in we and jaws but I am thinking those commands are window native commands and not so much screen reader specific commands that I know.
 
Thanks for the info
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

As a former JAWS user who knew a good deal about Window-eyes, I'll say that your main problems using JAWS may be that you don't know certain commands that do the same things in JAWS and Window-eyes and that you don't know the basic difference between the available cursors in the two programs.  Do you want suggestions about tutorials or documentation?  A lot of what you do should be very similar once you learn equivalent commands.  As far as the JAWS cursor is concerned, you turn it on and off in JAWS.  It isn't on all the time, as the Mouse Pointer is in Window-eyes.  In JAWS, you turn the JAWS cursor on with numpad minus, the key the farthest to the right on the top row of the numpad.  But in this case, you want to make sure it is both on and in the right window, where you are working.  The command numpad insert numpad minus, hold numpad insert and while doing so, press numpad minus, routes the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor. You use all the same navigation commands with the JAWS cursor, up and down arrow, control home and end, etc. to move around the window.  There aren't different commands, as in the Mouse Pointer.  There is somewhat more to learn but to move around the window as you want to do, that's all you have to know now.
 
To go back to the PC cursor, which   is what you were working with before, issue the command Numpad plus, the long key immediately below numpad minus.  That is, the long key on the farthest right column of keys that is right below the small key.  There are two long keys.  The one you want is the one above the long key that is the farthest down.  It's the middle key. 
 
In Windows 10, the JAWS cursor does much less than in earlier versions of Windows.  You can see if it reads what you want it to read.  If not, you may have to use the Touch Cursor, which I know nothing about, not having used JAWS to any extent for years.  Someone else can discuss that.  And JAWS users can refer you to JAWS training materials if you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Okay, someone on list suggested I give the stats on my windows 10 computer to the group to see what is slowing down my operation, compared to my xp machine.

I followed the directions to open up the direct x diagnosis page and I now need help in navigating the screens. In particular, I need some direction on how to go line by line in a screen taht does not act like a text document, whether is be wordpad, notepad or word.

I am a former Window eyes user and we had the "virtual mouse" using the numpad with num-lock off and we could hit the 8 and 2 keys to go up or down, line by line and have the screen reader read the line.

 

In jaws, what is the comprable actions to what I described to the window eyes navigation?

 

Not doing well with jaws and am really hating not using my new computer due to taht and the slowness of jaws on it.

Thanks

Keith


FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

Doug Sloan
 

Hi

Could someone please let me know the key strokes to turn off the return receipt as listed below I’m not sure what I’ve done I’m using the latest jaws windows 7

Cheers

Doug

24-09-2018

_____________________________________________

From: rick krolik [mailto:richard_krolik@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:46 AM
To: Doug Sloan <sloany50@...>
Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

This is a Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to richard_krolik@....

Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was displayed on the recipient's computer. There is no guarantee that the recipient has read or understood the message contents.


Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

heather albright
 

AH that reminds me of my early study of ham-radio! 73 kd5cbl

 

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From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

 

Here you go:

 

The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26 letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows: 
 Alfa
 Bravo
 Charlie
 Delta
 Echo
 Foxtrot
 Golf
 Hotel
 India
 Juliett
 Kilo
 Lima
 Mike
 November
 Oscar
 Papa
 Quebec
 Romeo
 Sierra
 Tango
 Uniform
 Victor
 Whiskey
 X-ray
 Yankee
 Zulu

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet