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Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

Blaster
 

After Ron brought up the Able, Baker version of this alphabet I looked
it up and found the following info. An excellent resource if your ever
trapped behind enemy lines and need to contact the allied forces,
hahaha.

The old U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet:
Able
Baker
Charlie
Dog
Easy
Fox
George
How
Item
Jig
King
Love
Mike
Nan
Oboe
Peter
Queen
Roger
Sugar
Tare
Uncle
Victor
William
X-ray
Yoke
Zebra

The Western Union Phonetic Alphabet:
Adams
Boston
Chicago
Denver
Easy
Frank
George
Henry
Ida John
King
Lincoln
Mary
NewYork
Ocean
Peter
Queen
Roger
Sugar
Thomas
Union
Victor
William
X-ray
Young
Zero

In Asia you will still find a variant of the following phonetic
alphabet in common use, even by Airline Reservations staff (although
the pilots, of course, use the International standard):
Australia
Bombay
China
Delhi
England
Fiji
Geneva
HongKong
India Japan
KualaLumpur
London
Malaysia
Norway
Osaka
Penang
Queensland
Russia Singapore
Taiwan
Uganda
Vietnam
Wellington
X-ray

Yokohama
Zanzibar


Over and out,
Blaster

On 9/24/18, Smiling? <blind7@...> wrote:
The phonetics for the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) are as follows:

Alpha

Bravo

Charlie

Delta

Echo

Foxtrot

Golf

Hotel

Indiana

Juliet

Kilo

Lima

Mike

Nebraska or November

Oscar

Papa

Quebec

Romeo

Sierra

Tango

Uniform

Victor

Whisky

XRay

Yankee

Zeebra or Zulu.



N and Z are the only two letters where there’s an option for the user to
determine which to use otherwise, this has been the FAA’s phonetic list for
several decades.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet



Hi Mike and Group,



The phonetics you site are used by the military and amateur radio services.
I am almost sure that there is actually a separate set of phonetics used by
civilian authorities and private airlines. I don't remember a lot of them,
but they are something like:

able

baker

Charles

dog

Edward



but I'm guessing at a lot of them so I'll stop here.





On 9/23/2018 9:38 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Here you go:



The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26
letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows:
Alfa
Bravo
Charlie
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Golf
Hotel
India
Juliett
Kilo
Lima
Mike
November
Oscar
Papa
Quebec
Romeo
Sierra
Tango
Uniform
Victor
Whiskey
X-ray
Yankee
Zulu

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Matzura <mailto:number6@...>

To: TechTalk <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet








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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"







Re: safely downgrading firefox

Smiling?
 

Just use a portable copy, link below.

Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition Legacy 52 (customizable web browser) | PortableApps.com:
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox-portable-legacy-52

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:29 PM
To: techtalk
Subject: [TechTalk] safely downgrading firefox

Hello,

I got a report from a user here that their Firefox was slow and was
not running any of their addons, I checked it and it had upgraded to
60.x not sure how as the mozilla maintenance service was not
installed.

Anyway, I need to be able to uninstall/downgrade firefox 60.x back to
52.x-esr and I need to do it without loosing things, site history,
bookmarks, etc

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

Smiling?
 

The phonetics for the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) are as follows:

Alpha

Bravo

Charlie

Delta

Echo

Foxtrot

Golf

Hotel

Indiana

Juliet

Kilo

Lima

Mike

Nebraska or November

Oscar

Papa

Quebec

Romeo

Sierra

Tango

Uniform

Victor

Whisky

XRay

Yankee

Zeebra or Zulu.

 

N and Z are the only two letters where there’s an option for the user to determine which to use otherwise, this has been the FAA’s phonetic list for several decades.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

 

Hi Mike and Group,

 

The phonetics you site are used by the military and amateur radio services. I am almost sure that there is actually a separate set of phonetics used by civilian authorities and private airlines.  I don't remember a lot of them, but they are something like:

able

baker

Charles

dog

Edward

 

but I'm guessing at a lot of them so I'll stop here.

 

 

On 9/23/2018 9:38 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Here you go:

 

The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26 letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows: 
 Alfa
 Bravo
 Charlie
 Delta
 Echo
 Foxtrot
 Golf
 Hotel
 India
 Juliett
 Kilo
 Lima
 Mike
 November
 Oscar
 Papa
 Quebec
 Romeo
 Sierra
 Tango
 Uniform
 Victor
 Whiskey
 X-ray
 Yankee
 Zulu

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet




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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


How to get rid of Avast

Fanus
 

Hello list
Avast got installed on my pc without my permission. It slows down the pc considerably. I try to remove it with Add and Remove but although it says it is uninstalling when I switch my pc on, it is still there. Can anyone tell me how to let it vanish?
Regards
Fanus
 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Facebook leave a group?

Shelly Kane
 

Thank you for that information.  It must have changed recently. When I did it last year, I could do it from the mobile Facebook page.  At least we all know now.

Shelly

On 9/23/2018 3:13 PM, Ann Marie Medlar wrote:
Okay I needed to go on
Facebook.com
And not M.facebook.com
Leave group button found.
Thanks,
Ann


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Marie Medlar
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Facebook leave a group?

Thanks.
I go to M.facebook.com enter on groups
I am in 21 groups and way too busy. I enter on first group and menu is above alt+5. I enter on menu and do not see leave button. I use Jaws search key to find leave and nothing. I press b for button and only find search.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Facebook leave a group?

Ann:


When you go to the group that you want to leave, click on it and then go to where it says menu. When you get there, you should be able to find a leave button. You just click on that and it may want you to confirm it but not sure. It may just come off your list of groups. Hope this helps. Let me know if this works for you.

Shelly


On 9/21/2018 3:17 PM, Ann Marie Medlar wrote:
Hi all,
I am on a desktop, Windows10, Jaws2018 latest version, using IE to
open https://m.facebook.com/ I google leave a group on Facebook To
leave a group, go to the group, click Joined at the top and then
select Leave Group. When you leave a group: Members won't be notified. You're removed from the member list and the group will be removed from your list of groups I cannot find leave button.
Thanks,
Ann















robobraille with IOS 11.4.1

Bharat
 

Hi all,

has anyone used robobraille with IOS 11.4.1? I copied one of the
files to the files drive, completed all the steps, it even told me the
file was uploaded & showed me the file size as well, I filled up all
the information & clicked on submit but got no result.

please help.

thank you,

bharat.


Re: Facebook leave a group?

Shelly Kane
 

I have no idea why you can't leave the group.  I'll go on facebook and try it and see what happens.  Maybe something has changed with facebook.  Sorry about that.

Shelly

On 9/23/2018 12:03 PM, Ann Marie Medlar wrote:
Thanks.
I go to M.facebook.com enter on groups
I am in 21 groups and way too busy. I enter on first group and menu is above alt+5. I enter on menu and do not see leave button. I use Jaws search key to find leave and nothing. I press b for button and only find search.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Facebook leave a group?

Ann:


When you go to the group that you want to leave, click on it and then go to where it says menu. When you get there, you should be able to find a leave button. You just click on that and it may want you to confirm it but not sure. It may just come off your list of groups. Hope this helps. Let me know if this works for you.

Shelly


On 9/21/2018 3:17 PM, Ann Marie Medlar wrote:
Hi all,
I am on a desktop, Windows10, Jaws2018 latest version, using IE to
open https://m.facebook.com/ I google leave a group on Facebook To
leave a group, go to the group, click Joined at the top and then
select Leave Group. When you leave a group: Members won't be notified. You're removed from the member list and the group will be removed from your list of groups I cannot find leave button.
Thanks,
Ann










.


Re: Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Gene
 

The address of the web site is:
There is no suffix, if that is the correct term.  I don't know why.  I tested just using the address shown in the address bar and it works.
 
You may find things you are interested in aside from this one tutorial. 
 
Cathy Anne Murtha provides, on this page, the first lesson of her Windows 10 and JAWS book as a free sample:
I can't tell from the description if Windows 10 is used for the training but I would think it would be.  You may want to inquire:
 
The book is more expensive than I thought.  it's about ninety-four dollars.
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

I would appreciate the info on the tutorial 's author website.
 
here is my email address if you could be so kind as to send me the website link.
 
Thanks Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

If you want to spend money, you can get a detailed long tutorial from Cathy Anne Murtha.  I'll provide further information about her web site if you wish.  If you don't know things like what commands you use are Windows commands and which commands are screen-reader commands, that is one thing you will learn.  If you received poor instruction and do a lot of things by rote, you will understand Windows and program structures such as combo boxes dialogs, etc. and you won't just do things by rote.  I believe the detailed tutorial or book costs about seventy dollars. 
 
Others will likely suggest other material but that is a resource I know of that is very high quality. 
 
Once you finish with it, you will be able to switch to other screen-readers such as NVDA or use more than one because you will thoroughly understand that most of what you do is use Windows commands and program commands and that once you learn perhaps fifteen or twenty screen-reader commands, you can do a lot or most of what you did before.  The book teaches using Windows with JAWS but in the context of teaching you things such as I've mentioned with the goal of having you really understand what you are doing and not being captive to any one screen-reader. 
 
I don't know if you restricted yourself to one screen-reader but doing so means that if one screen-reader does something better or if one screen-reader doesn't do something at all, you can try another. 
 
I usually use NVDA but I have a JAWS demo on my machine as well as an old copy of a Window-eyes demo because you never know when you might want to use another screen-reader.  Depending on how you use a computer, you may or may not have much, if any, use for other screen-readers, but many bline Windows users have more than one available even if they use one for most or almost all things.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

all available tutorials, and documentation would be much appreciated.  I am simply lost and do not know how to start using jaws.  Some commands are similiar in we and jaws but I am thinking those commands are window native commands and not so much screen reader specific commands that I know.
 
Thanks for the info
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

As a former JAWS user who knew a good deal about Window-eyes, I'll say that your main problems using JAWS may be that you don't know certain commands that do the same things in JAWS and Window-eyes and that you don't know the basic difference between the available cursors in the two programs.  Do you want suggestions about tutorials or documentation?  A lot of what you do should be very similar once you learn equivalent commands.  As far as the JAWS cursor is concerned, you turn it on and off in JAWS.  It isn't on all the time, as the Mouse Pointer is in Window-eyes.  In JAWS, you turn the JAWS cursor on with numpad minus, the key the farthest to the right on the top row of the numpad.  But in this case, you want to make sure it is both on and in the right window, where you are working.  The command numpad insert numpad minus, hold numpad insert and while doing so, press numpad minus, routes the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor. You use all the same navigation commands with the JAWS cursor, up and down arrow, control home and end, etc. to move around the window.  There aren't different commands, as in the Mouse Pointer.  There is somewhat more to learn but to move around the window as you want to do, that's all you have to know now.
 
To go back to the PC cursor, which   is what you were working with before, issue the command Numpad plus, the long key immediately below numpad minus.  That is, the long key on the farthest right column of keys that is right below the small key.  There are two long keys.  The one you want is the one above the long key that is the farthest down.  It's the middle key. 
 
In Windows 10, the JAWS cursor does much less than in earlier versions of Windows.  You can see if it reads what you want it to read.  If not, you may have to use the Touch Cursor, which I know nothing about, not having used JAWS to any extent for years.  Someone else can discuss that.  And JAWS users can refer you to JAWS training materials if you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Okay, someone on list suggested I give the stats on my windows 10 computer to the group to see what is slowing down my operation, compared to my xp machine.

I followed the directions to open up the direct x diagnosis page and I now need help in navigating the screens. In particular, I need some direction on how to go line by line in a screen taht does not act like a text document, whether is be wordpad, notepad or word.

I am a former Window eyes user and we had the "virtual mouse" using the numpad with num-lock off and we could hit the 8 and 2 keys to go up or down, line by line and have the screen reader read the line.

 

In jaws, what is the comprable actions to what I described to the window eyes navigation?

 

Not doing well with jaws and am really hating not using my new computer due to taht and the slowness of jaws on it.

Thanks

Keith


Change Custom Hotkeys, Windows 10

Rob Hudson
 

I have a wireless keyboard, and on the top of it are several pre programmed buttons that launch things such as calculator, mail, web, volume up/down, etc.
Somehow, and I don't know how, my right control key got programmed to launch the calculator. The keyboard was already half broken, anyway, so I ditched it. But, for future occurrences, where, in windows 10, can you go to fix something like that?


Re: Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Keith S
 

I would appreciate the info on the tutorial 's author website.
 
here is my email address if you could be so kind as to send me the website link.
 
Thanks Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

If you want to spend money, you can get a detailed long tutorial from Cathy Anne Murtha.  I'll provide further information about her web site if you wish.  If you don't know things like what commands you use are Windows commands and which commands are screen-reader commands, that is one thing you will learn.  If you received poor instruction and do a lot of things by rote, you will understand Windows and program structures such as combo boxes dialogs, etc. and you won't just do things by rote.  I believe the detailed tutorial or book costs about seventy dollars. 
 
Others will likely suggest other material but that is a resource I know of that is very high quality. 
 
Once you finish with it, you will be able to switch to other screen-readers such as NVDA or use more than one because you will thoroughly understand that most of what you do is use Windows commands and program commands and that once you learn perhaps fifteen or twenty screen-reader commands, you can do a lot or most of what you did before.  The book teaches using Windows with JAWS but in the context of teaching you things such as I've mentioned with the goal of having you really understand what you are doing and not being captive to any one screen-reader. 
 
I don't know if you restricted yourself to one screen-reader but doing so means that if one screen-reader does something better or if one screen-reader doesn't do something at all, you can try another. 
 
I usually use NVDA but I have a JAWS demo on my machine as well as an old copy of a Window-eyes demo because you never know when you might want to use another screen-reader.  Depending on how you use a computer, you may or may not have much, if any, use for other screen-readers, but many bline Windows users have more than one available even if they use one for most or almost all things.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

all available tutorials, and documentation would be much appreciated.  I am simply lost and do not know how to start using jaws.  Some commands are similiar in we and jaws but I am thinking those commands are window native commands and not so much screen reader specific commands that I know.
 
Thanks for the info
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

As a former JAWS user who knew a good deal about Window-eyes, I'll say that your main problems using JAWS may be that you don't know certain commands that do the same things in JAWS and Window-eyes and that you don't know the basic difference between the available cursors in the two programs.  Do you want suggestions about tutorials or documentation?  A lot of what you do should be very similar once you learn equivalent commands.  As far as the JAWS cursor is concerned, you turn it on and off in JAWS.  It isn't on all the time, as the Mouse Pointer is in Window-eyes.  In JAWS, you turn the JAWS cursor on with numpad minus, the key the farthest to the right on the top row of the numpad.  But in this case, you want to make sure it is both on and in the right window, where you are working.  The command numpad insert numpad minus, hold numpad insert and while doing so, press numpad minus, routes the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor. You use all the same navigation commands with the JAWS cursor, up and down arrow, control home and end, etc. to move around the window.  There aren't different commands, as in the Mouse Pointer.  There is somewhat more to learn but to move around the window as you want to do, that's all you have to know now.
 
To go back to the PC cursor, which   is what you were working with before, issue the command Numpad plus, the long key immediately below numpad minus.  That is, the long key on the farthest right column of keys that is right below the small key.  There are two long keys.  The one you want is the one above the long key that is the farthest down.  It's the middle key. 
 
In Windows 10, the JAWS cursor does much less than in earlier versions of Windows.  You can see if it reads what you want it to read.  If not, you may have to use the Touch Cursor, which I know nothing about, not having used JAWS to any extent for years.  Someone else can discuss that.  And JAWS users can refer you to JAWS training materials if you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Okay, someone on list suggested I give the stats on my windows 10 computer to the group to see what is slowing down my operation, compared to my xp machine.

I followed the directions to open up the direct x diagnosis page and I now need help in navigating the screens. In particular, I need some direction on how to go line by line in a screen taht does not act like a text document, whether is be wordpad, notepad or word.

I am a former Window eyes user and we had the "virtual mouse" using the numpad with num-lock off and we could hit the 8 and 2 keys to go up or down, line by line and have the screen reader read the line.

 

In jaws, what is the comprable actions to what I described to the window eyes navigation?

 

Not doing well with jaws and am really hating not using my new computer due to taht and the slowness of jaws on it.

Thanks

Keith


Re: FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

Doug Sloan
 

Sorry the email program is outlook

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

 

In which e-mail program?

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Doug Sloan

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:03 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

 

Hi

Could someone please let me know the key strokes to turn off the return receipt as listed below I’m not sure what I’ve done I’m using the latest jaws windows 7

Cheers

Doug

24-09-2018

_____________________________________________
From: rick krolik [mailto:richard_krolik@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:46 AM
To: Doug Sloan <sloany50@...>
Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

This is a Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to richard_krolik@....

Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was displayed on the recipient's computer. There is no guarantee that the recipient has read or understood the message contents.


windows live mail/instead of seeing my folders list i see a bunch of buttons

joanne
 

Usually I have my list of email messages, and then tabbing once I see my list of folders--in box, junk mail, etc. But now, next to my list of messages, there are buttons like "shortcut expander," "sync," and a few others. The list of folders isn't there. How do I get rid of these buttons and put it back to a folder list view? Using Windows Live Mail and windows 7.
 
Thank you.


Re: FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

Gene
 

In which e-mail program?
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
From: Doug Sloan
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:03 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

Hi

Could someone please let me know the key strokes to turn off the return receipt as listed below I’m not sure what I’ve done I’m using the latest jaws windows 7

Cheers

Doug

24-09-2018

_____________________________________________
From: rick krolik [mailto:richard_krolik@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:46 AM
To: Doug Sloan <sloany50@...>
Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

This is a Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to richard_krolik@....

Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was displayed on the recipient's computer. There is no guarantee that the recipient has read or understood the message contents.


Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Mike and Group,


The phonetics you site are used by the military and amateur radio services. I am almost sure that there is actually a separate set of phonetics used by civilian authorities and private airlines.  I don't remember a lot of them, but they are something like:

able

baker

Charles

dog

Edward


but I'm guessing at a lot of them so I'll stop here.



On 9/23/2018 9:38 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Here you go:
 
The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26 letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows: 
 Alfa
 Bravo
 Charlie
 Delta
 Echo
 Foxtrot
 Golf
 Hotel
 India
 Juliett
 Kilo
 Lima
 Mike
 November
 Oscar
 Papa
 Quebec
 Romeo
 Sierra
 Tango
 Uniform
 Victor
 Whiskey
 X-ray
 Yankee
 Zulu
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Gene
 

If you want to spend money, you can get a detailed long tutorial from Cathy Anne Murtha.  I'll provide further information about her web site if you wish.  If you don't know things like what commands you use are Windows commands and which commands are screen-reader commands, that is one thing you will learn.  If you received poor instruction and do a lot of things by rote, you will understand Windows and program structures such as combo boxes dialogs, etc. and you won't just do things by rote.  I believe the detailed tutorial or book costs about seventy dollars. 
 
Others will likely suggest other material but that is a resource I know of that is very high quality. 
 
Once you finish with it, you will be able to switch to other screen-readers such as NVDA or use more than one because you will thoroughly understand that most of what you do is use Windows commands and program commands and that once you learn perhaps fifteen or twenty screen-reader commands, you can do a lot or most of what you did before.  The book teaches using Windows with JAWS but in the context of teaching you things such as I've mentioned with the goal of having you really understand what you are doing and not being captive to any one screen-reader. 
 
I don't know if you restricted yourself to one screen-reader but doing so means that if one screen-reader does something better or if one screen-reader doesn't do something at all, you can try another. 
 
I usually use NVDA but I have a JAWS demo on my machine as well as an old copy of a Window-eyes demo because you never know when you might want to use another screen-reader.  Depending on how you use a computer, you may or may not have much, if any, use for other screen-readers, but many bline Windows users have more than one available even if they use one for most or almost all things.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

all available tutorials, and documentation would be much appreciated.  I am simply lost and do not know how to start using jaws.  Some commands are similiar in we and jaws but I am thinking those commands are window native commands and not so much screen reader specific commands that I know.
 
Thanks for the info
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

As a former JAWS user who knew a good deal about Window-eyes, I'll say that your main problems using JAWS may be that you don't know certain commands that do the same things in JAWS and Window-eyes and that you don't know the basic difference between the available cursors in the two programs.  Do you want suggestions about tutorials or documentation?  A lot of what you do should be very similar once you learn equivalent commands.  As far as the JAWS cursor is concerned, you turn it on and off in JAWS.  It isn't on all the time, as the Mouse Pointer is in Window-eyes.  In JAWS, you turn the JAWS cursor on with numpad minus, the key the farthest to the right on the top row of the numpad.  But in this case, you want to make sure it is both on and in the right window, where you are working.  The command numpad insert numpad minus, hold numpad insert and while doing so, press numpad minus, routes the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor. You use all the same navigation commands with the JAWS cursor, up and down arrow, control home and end, etc. to move around the window.  There aren't different commands, as in the Mouse Pointer.  There is somewhat more to learn but to move around the window as you want to do, that's all you have to know now.
 
To go back to the PC cursor, which   is what you were working with before, issue the command Numpad plus, the long key immediately below numpad minus.  That is, the long key on the farthest right column of keys that is right below the small key.  There are two long keys.  The one you want is the one above the long key that is the farthest down.  It's the middle key. 
 
In Windows 10, the JAWS cursor does much less than in earlier versions of Windows.  You can see if it reads what you want it to read.  If not, you may have to use the Touch Cursor, which I know nothing about, not having used JAWS to any extent for years.  Someone else can discuss that.  And JAWS users can refer you to JAWS training materials if you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Navigating direct x screen in windows 10

Okay, someone on list suggested I give the stats on my windows 10 computer to the group to see what is slowing down my operation, compared to my xp machine.

I followed the directions to open up the direct x diagnosis page and I now need help in navigating the screens. In particular, I need some direction on how to go line by line in a screen taht does not act like a text document, whether is be wordpad, notepad or word.

I am a former Window eyes user and we had the "virtual mouse" using the numpad with num-lock off and we could hit the 8 and 2 keys to go up or down, line by line and have the screen reader read the line.

 

In jaws, what is the comprable actions to what I described to the window eyes navigation?

 

Not doing well with jaws and am really hating not using my new computer due to taht and the slowness of jaws on it.

Thanks

Keith


FW: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

Doug Sloan
 

Hi

Could someone please let me know the key strokes to turn off the return receipt as listed below I’m not sure what I’ve done I’m using the latest jaws windows 7

Cheers

Doug

24-09-2018

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From: rick krolik [mailto:richard_krolik@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:46 AM
To: Doug Sloan <sloany50@...>
Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) -Camperdown

This is a Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to richard_krolik@....

Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was displayed on the recipient's computer. There is no guarantee that the recipient has read or understood the message contents.


Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

heather albright
 

AH that reminds me of my early study of ham-radio! 73 kd5cbl

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
e-mail:
kd5cbl@...
sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
An Accessible Online Library:
www.bookshare.org

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

 

Here you go:

 

The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26 letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows: 
 Alfa
 Bravo
 Charlie
 Delta
 Echo
 Foxtrot
 Golf
 Hotel
 India
 Juliett
 Kilo
 Lima
 Mike
 November
 Oscar
 Papa
 Quebec
 Romeo
 Sierra
 Tango
 Uniform
 Victor
 Whiskey
 X-ray
 Yankee
 Zulu

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet


 


Re: Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Here you go:
 
The 26 code words in the NATO phonetic alphabet are assigned to the 26 letters of the English alphabet in
alphabetical order as follows: 
 Alfa
 Bravo
 Charlie
 Delta
 Echo
 Foxtrot
 Golf
 Hotel
 India
 Juliett
 Kilo
 Lima
 Mike
 November
 Oscar
 Papa
 Quebec
 Romeo
 Sierra
 Tango
 Uniform
 Victor
 Whiskey
 X-ray
 Yankee
 Zulu
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Learning the Phoenetic Alphabet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet




Re: RAID 0 or RAID 1, which is advisable

Chris G
 

Hi Steve,

Thanks so much for this.

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 02:58:48 -0400
"Steve Matzura" <number6@...> wrote:

Walter, et al.:

Your understanding is correct. Following your line of thinking about NAS, I would suggest going that route. Let me explain a little about why one would want this solution for those who may be contemplating expanding their disk storage due to increased  capacity needs.


The following is long but thorough. The videos at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE7Bfw9lFfs and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P8ZecG9iOI explains the RAID concepts. Read the following or watch the vids; the choice is yours.


First of all, as you probably know or have figured out, the more capacity a disk has, the closer together all that data must be. The form factor of a disk drive has  not changed one iota since IDE days, when disk capacity was measured in megabytes, not terabytes. So if the box is the same size, the box has got to be able to hold more information, and the only way to implement that is to squish that data physically closer and closer together. While you may not think of data as physical, in a sense it really is. It's a small magnetized area on a magnetically permeable substrate, and  those magnetized regions have to be made smaller and smaller as data capacity goes up and up.

So now we have a box which is the same size today as it was thirty years ago that can store literally one million times as much data in the same physical space.


Every time manufacturers of disk drives have to shrink things down to fit more data in the same amount of space introduces mechanical challenges. The heads built into the drive must be able to move in smaller and smaller increments to find the aforementioned tracks and cylinders which are now closer together than ever thought possible. The tolerances between the physical platters inside a disk drive are so small now, the least vibration from external forces can and sometimes does throw off the calibration of the internal mechanisms of disk drives, the head touches the platter as it's never supposed to, there's friction, disks become scratched, heads become damaged, data becomes lost. In other words, the more you cram into the same physical space, the  tighter the physical tolerances get. I have a friend  that had a 6TB mechanical external drive that accidentally got tipped over. There was a little clicking noise from the drive when it fell over, and that was the end of it. The shock from the box with the drive in it having fallen over was enough to make a head come in contact with a fast-spinning platter, there was friction, there was heat, there was surface damage to the platter and head, and that took out the whole drive.

The next jump in hardware technology  between drives of three terabytes and anything larger put data at even higher risk because the newer  denser technology crammed more platters and closer tracks and cylinders into the same box that  one-, two-, and three-terabyte drives use. See where I'm going with this? In my considered opinion, I would hesitate before buying drives of higher capacity than 3TB. If I really had to, I'd go to the next level of compacted storage, the 4-6TB drive. Maybe up to 8TB, I don't know for sure where the next jump in compaction happens.

Is there a solution to this problem? Yes. And here's where the expense part comes in.

In your situation, which is quite similar to mine and maybe even more so, I would install a disk server, or network-attached storage unit (NAS for short). A NAS can hold two, four, eight disks and build an storage array out of these disks. This type of storage model is called RAID (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks). RAID comes in five types--RAID level 0, or striped/striping, RAID 1, or mirrored/mirroring, and the two more advanced RAID types,  5 and 6. There's also a RAID 10, which is not really ten, but one plus 0 (sometimes written as RAID 1 +0). Mirrored means exactly what it sounds like--everything written to the first disk is duplicated exactly, sector for sector, on the second disk. One disk goes bad, no worries, the other one contains a perfect 100% duplicate of the first disk. Tell the RAID  server to drop the bad one, replace it, tell the RAID server it has a new mirror, and things carry on without you and your data missing a beat. Striping means every other write operation changes physical media. In practice, this means your data is split across multiple physical disks. This is  quite a dangerous thing to do because if one drive goes bad, that's one nth part of your data lost that absolutely positively cannot be reclaimed, reconstructed or reconstituted by simply replacing the bad device. It's really efficient, though, because even slower-speed drives can be put into a striped RAID set and help improve performance because while one drive is servicing a read or write request, another part of the stripe set might have the next part of the read request already in its cache, so it can offer it up to the program requesting it faster. But remember, lose one disk and you lose the world.

Raid 1+0 (or RAID 10) is a good pairing of striping and mirroring. Unfortunately, it's only fifty percent capacity-efficient because four drives comprise two stripe sets and those two stripe sets are mirrored. So theoretically any two of those four disks can go bad at the same time with no data loss. The volume itself may go offline if the RAID software or server isn't as fault-tolerant as it probably should be, but at least your data is secure from loss due to mechanical failure.

But there's another more efficient solution--RAID 5 to the rescue! RAID 5 is an advanced RAID 0. That is, it's a striped kind of storage, but additional disks are part of the RAID set that don't actually store your data on them, but rather, store information about how to reconstruct your data based on certain mathematical algorithms sometimes called checksums or parity values. There are scholarly papers, even books, detailing how RAID  5 works, and work it does. Its drawback is that you need at least one more disk than would be required for a RAID 0 (striped) array to complete a RAID 5 set.

RAID 6 is RAID  5 on steroids. It uses two checksum or parity disks, increasing reliability and of course cost because, like RAID 5, the extra drives don't hold any real data and are used only to replicate or reconstitute data that might be lost if one of the physical disks in the rest of the array goes bad. To use my NAS as an example, I have a RAID  6 array of eight physical 3TB drives, but I only get the storage aggregated from six of those drives, which of course is eighteen terabytes. I did this because virtually all of those eighteen terabytes of data I have are irreplaceable.  Back when the Internet was a lot less controlled than it is now, I collected a lot of media, and I mean a *LOT* of it, that nowadays it is only possible to purchase or rent the right to perform, not physically own, so I am extremely (and, if I may say so, rightfully) protective of my data. I have also converted my entire compact disc library--over fifteen hundred discs collected since the format was invented--to a lossless digital storage format called FLAC, enabling me to use a media player to search my library and play anything I want on demand without having to physically locate a CD, put it in a player, and press a lot of buttons just to hear a couple favorite tracks. Anybody wanna buy a bunch of CD's? LOL.

Building a network-attached storage solution can get expensive. Western Digital sells two- and four-bay devices for under three hundred dollars (not including the cost of the disks). I needed something bigger, so I bought the Synology DS1815+. The "plus" is the ability to connect two of these devices together to double the capacity available via one network address. The cost of one of these babies is just stupid for home use--just under a thousand dollars--and is not generally recommended for the average home user, whereas the WD devices are perfectly suitable for at least ninety percent of home applications. In fact, I had two other four-bay Synology NAS boxes that I got in 2009 and 2010 that were restricted not just by the number of drives but also by drive size--max  2TB each drive. That changed a lot by the time I bought the DS1815+ in 2016.

If one is intrepid and on the geeky side, one can build one's own NAS with a cheap computer and a bunch of RAID cards from companies like Intel, StarTech or Vantec, and software called QNAP that runs under just about any flavor of Linux there is.

So there's the whole story, complete with lots of choices. It's your data. Never lose control of it.

Now, about that bottle of wine ... pass that bottle to me! I'm thirsty after all that typing! :-)

On 9/22/2018 4:58 PM, Walter Ramage via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi All.  A week or so back I asked a question on the use of Dropbox
for large data storage.

After considering the responses from this list and that of other lists
on which I asked the same question, I’ve decided I should stick to
storing my media files on external hard drives.

Now here’s my problem; ignorance!  I am clearly going to have to
obtain high capacity hard drives.  The largest single hard drive unit
I can get is a Seagate 10tb but I’ll very soon grow out of that so
will have to go for something quite larger such as 16tb or 24tb and I
have no knowledge of how these large arrays work.

I have found on Amazon a16tb western digital drive, which is a two bay
2x8tb drive.  This item can be configured for Raid 0 or Raid 1.  I
looked on line to find out what that meant and as I understand it;
RAID 0 means the two drives act as one drive whereas RAID 1 means the
data is duplicated, a copy on each drive but to my mind that wouldn’t
give me enough space and I’d be just as well sticking to my individual
8tb drives. Now do I have that understanding correct or have I
misunderstood something?  From my understanding RAID 0 is best for my
needs but the negative is, if any one of the 2 internal drives fails
then all my material goes down the pan.

Now the second part of my lack of knowledge is what is better; a two
bay array (2x8tb) or a four bay array (4x4tb) or even more weird a
24tb array with 6 bays (6x4tb).  This is all very confusing to me and
I don’t know what is the best combination.  And finally, are these
drives plug and play or is any software to be installed or
configuration required prior to use?

Phew!!! I hope that all made sense, and I’ve not even mentioned any
NAS options yet but one step at a time... Now, where’s that bottle of
wine! LOL.  Walter.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
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https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
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Re: thunderbird acting weird today

Troy Burnham
 

Thanks Steve that worked.  And btw thunderbird stopped identifying messages as junk without me having to do anything.


Troy

On 9/23/2018 2:00 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Press ESCAPE. You may have  to press it twice. You somehow got into the search dialog by accidentally pressing Shift plus Control plus K.


On 9/22/2018 6:43 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,


There's an edit field between the folder treeview and the list of messages in the folders in thunderbird today and the edit field says something about filtering messages, and thunderbird seems to think that all messages are spam today.  I don't know if a new version was installed because I have that set to automatic, but how can I get rid of this filter message thing and how do I get it to not think everything is spam?  Btw it's not placing messages in the spam folder, when I highlight a message I just keep getting the warning that it may be junk or spam.  I've already looked through the options and didn't see anything obvious.


Thanks.


Troy