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Re: amerzon ehco

Carolyn Arnold
 

Pam, I think the account is an Amazon account. I had to work very, very hard at spelling so that I could do office work, so I get it.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 11:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco

Okay; I’ve been seeing these messages. Now, I finally read that word with the cursor. What is Amerzon? Pam.

From: A.Mac via Groups.Io <mailto:a.mcaneney=ntlworld.com@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco


so you need a amerzon account?

can you set it up with out a amerzon account ?



On 17/11/2018 14:33, Chris G wrote:


No steps require sighted help, even for the Echo devices with screens.
One needs to know ones network name, password and Amazon credentials.

________________________________

From: Ashley Breger via Groups.Io
Sent: Sat, Nov 17, 2018 6:21 AM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco



You have to put your Wi-Fi password into the Alexa app and there are a few other steps that may require sighted help. I would be happy to walk you through the steps if you want to give me a call at 219-595-21to 3.


Ashley Breger


On Nov 17, 2018, at 2:57 AM, A.Mac via Groups.Io mailto:a.mcaneney=ntlworld.com@groups.io wrote:

hi all, i took the leap and bought a amerzon ehco 2 from amerzon on there black friday deal, i.e it was £35 cheaper.

my question is, i know that you have to down load the alexa app to your phone to set up your ehco , but in the app do you have to put in your wi-fi, and can it all be set up with siri ok or do you need sited help.


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Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
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Thanks for your time in advance.
Later
A.Mac
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Re: Length of a white cane?

Carolyn Arnold
 

So true. My mobility instructor worked with me about getting from the apartment to the mailbox.

So, a while back, my husband and I decided I'd go ahead of him, that I needed to go on my own, so as not to lose that ability. When I got to the intersection and went across, I worked with it like I always had to. So, the next day, when we did it again, he said, "I have a suggestion. When you get to the corner there, turn to about 11 o'clock before crossing to see how you line up." I did, and that was the solution. There are curves in the road, and that specific instruction from a country guy from West Virginia made more sense than my trained instructor with a partially sighted father - go figure.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?

That was the belief of certain trainers. It was hardly universal at that time. When I had training in the later sixties, my canes came about up to my arm pit. And in the late seventies and beyond, many blind people vigorously disagreed with the sternum measurement. Mobility instruction and instructors vary in quality and they shouldn't be taken as authorities just because they are instructors.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:pammygirl99@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?

That’s interesting that that measurement works well for you if you walk fast. I would need more stopping room than that. I do know about that measurement, though. My last mobility instructor told me an interesting thing. He said that there was no reason for them to have chosen that measurement to use, except that everybody has a breast bone. That makes no sense, and proves how little they really knew when they started to invent this cane travel stuff. Pam.

From: Steve Heflin <mailto:steveheflin08@...>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 9:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?


I guess its a personal thing but when I took O and M instruction which was many years ago1978 to be exact, the belief was the cane should come to the middle of your sternum.

I have always used this measurement because it works very well for me and I'm a fairly fast walker.

Thanks Steve.


On 11/16/2018 7:31 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:


You measure your cane by what feels comfortable for you to use. This rib cage stuff is bonkers. It makes you have to walk really very slow in order to use it. My cames come up to at least my chin. Pam.

From: Vicky Vaughan <mailto:vrvaughan63@...>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?


Hi List, I’m not a cane user, but a friend, who is no longer eligible for mobility training, needs to replace her cane.



She asked me what’s the going place for measuring yourself for your cain? Example, arm pit?



Would this length of cain assume a tip of about 2 inches? I ask this, since of course, tips come in many different sizes and thus, different lengths.



Thanks very much for any advice!



Sincerely, Vicky




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Buying window 10 desk top computer

Lorena Pennington
 

need imformation what to geton it thanks much spending about a thousand dollars


Re: buying a window 10 computer

Cristóbal
 

That’s largely subjective and highly dependent on your budget and needs.

Generally though, try to stick with an i-core processor of 5 or 7. Preferably

7th or 8th generation. Anything of a lesser generation, you’re looking at stock that’s a few years old now. Don’t settle for anything that has less than 8 GB of ram and if you can, check to see if you can expand ram for future enhancements. Also make sure that the processor can at least have boost performance above 3 GHZ.

All the other stuff to a degree can always be upgraded, ram, hard drive etc, but if you’ve got a crappy processor good luck. Some processors can be upgraded, but then you’re looking at a separate 2 or 3 hundred dollar investment and the fact that not all computers have the ability/design to be upgraded really just lends itself to try to get a good processor from the outset.

We recently scored a deal on a Dell G3 17.3 inch gaming laptop for my wife. From $1100 to $730. That was with some price matching and redemption of Bestbuy points. She does a lot of photo editing and graphical design stuff so scoring the higher processor, separate graphics card and so on was important to her. See: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-g3-17-gaming/spd/g-series-17-3779-laptop

Probably overkill for screen reading usage, but again, without knowing your budget, it’s hard to say.

Try to stay away from machines that cost less than $300 unless it’s a super sale or deal or something.

For future compatibility, also try to get something with at least 1 USB 3 port.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lorena Pennington
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] buying a window 10 computer

 

I need to no what kind how much and how much hard drive and what size u s b ports and any thing else I should have thanks much


buying a window 10 computer

Lorena Pennington
 

I need to no what kind how much and how much hard drive and what size u s b ports and any thing else I should have thanks much


Strange subject lines in A T and T emails

Loy
 

Here lately I am getting a lot of emails with  strange subject line. Here is an example

Evâ€e‪r thougâ€ht y‌ou couâ€ldn‌'t ge‌t LASIK‪? Taâ€kâ€e thâ€e LAS‌IK quâ€iâ€z 

I don't open them. I was wondering if AT and T is doing this to let me know they ar SPAM.


Re: Braille Display Questions

Aman Singer
 

Hi Eleni,

You write:

I'm confused as to the cursor issues. When I used my braile note, it had eight dots in a cell, but the bottom two were only used for the cursor. There were only six actual braille keys. Is the Braille Me like that? If so, I don't understand the issue.

The issue is just the one you raise, how do you know where the cursor is in the document when you don't have dots 7-8 to show it? I believe the BrailleME has several ways of doing this, but none are as satisfactory as the actual cursor being shown as dots 7-8 in the usual way. That is the cursor issue. Obviously, if you're not editing, or not editing much, this may not be a problem at all.
HTH,
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:27 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Display Questions

Oh, good. They mentioned the three types of displays (the other being
80) so I wasn't sure if there were three different drivers or not.

I am trying to determine whether the Braille Me can handle polytonic Greek. I need to find the list of languages that it supports. But overall, since I will mostly be using it with NVDA, it doesn't matter.
Still, it would be nice.

I'm confused as to the cursor issues. When I used my braile note, it had eight dots in a cell, but the bottom two were only used for the cursor. There were only six actual braille keys. Is the Braille Me like that? If so, I don't understand the issue.

I have a power bank which can switch between three levels of voltage, one of them being 19. So as long as it has the right adapter plug, I should be fine. But I doubt I would have to worry about the battery for a while. *smile* I am used to things being charged with regular adapters. The only devices that I have which can be charged via usb are my phone and my hotspot, and the only reason why that is so is that my power bank has a phone charger. The two devices came with wall adapters.


Re: My Second Reason to Quit Using Firefox

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
With all due respect I just updated to version 63.0.1, navigated to twitter activated the "log in" link and the process went flawlessly even with two factor authentication enabled on Twitter.
I'm late to the party so pardon me. Have you tried restarting with all ad ins if you have any disabled? Has anyone else been able to reproduce this behavior? Might a clean uninstall and reinstall maybe right whatever might be wrong?
Take good care.Rob
in (who uses both firefox and chrome daily with no ill effects along with Jaws and NVDA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 7:35 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] My Second Reason to Quit Using Firefox

I never thought this would happen. Imagine, me, noble, fair, long-haired
leaping known (LOL), giving up Firefox! You all already know I've found
one reason not to like the current version--the way it now treats
downloads. Today brings another.


I tried to log in to Twitter to test my password. This came about
because I need to log in somewhere else, and that somewhere-else gives
me the option of logging in with Twitter. There is apparently a problem
with that login capability, because I verified the validity and accuracy
of my Twitter password ...


... but I digress. I seem to be exceptionally good at that (LOL).


... Anyway, I Opened Firefox and went to the Twitter home page,
http://www.twitter.com. The whole top of the page is apparently now very
different from that which it used to be. The login link, when activated,
caused Firefox to abbend, abort, or otherwise quit in some silent way,
because the window closed and I got no message of failure. I tried to
log in using Internet Explorer, the page was displayed flawlessly, and
my password was in fact what I thought it to be.


So what's different about the Twitter home page that gives Firefox fits?
Will I try Chrome again because of this? I can certainly say that I'm
leaning precariously in that direction. Another bad behavior or two by
FFF and I just might fall over into the Chrome camp. Never thought it'd
happen.


Re: Jaws 2019

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Amy,
 
To make J2019 start when the computer starts try the following:
1. Make sure you have J2019 running then, press, Insert / Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.
2. Press the letter, O, to open options and press enter on, Basics.
3. Tab a couple of times to, Automatically start Jaws...button, and press the spacebar to open.
4. Your first option is, Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box, press the spacebar to check this if it's not checked.  Now tab 1 time to, Start JAWS after logon for all users, you can check this box if you'd like, tab 1 more time to, Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box, if you checked the previous box you want to check this box, Using the all users setting, and if you didn't check the previous box choose the, Always option.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, again tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
From: Amy Gordon
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2019

Awesome!  Thanks so much for your help.  That fixed my problem.

On 11/18/18, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
> Amy,
>
> When you update to a new version of JAWS, such as going from JAWS 2018 to
> JAWS 2019, the old version is still kept intact on your computer. On your
> desktop or your start menu you should see both versions of JAWS available to
> you, JAWS 2018 as well as JAWS 2019. When you restarted your computer I'm a
> bit surprised that JAWS 2019 did not start automatically. However, I would
> look specifically for JAWS 2019 and start that version. Make sure that 2018
> is ***not*** running when you try to start 2019. You could point to JAWS
> 2019, press insert-f4 to unload the current JAWS version, and then press
> enter after a few seconds. It may open the startup wizard and/or it may also
> give you the option to merge settings from your previous version into the
> newly installed one. Once you start JAWS 2019, press insert-J to open the
> JAWS window and confirm that you are, in fact, running 2019. If you are, go
> into the Options menu, choose Basics and set the start options to run that
> version automatically.
>
>
>
> David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
> WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
> On 11/18/2018 1:48 PM, Amy Gordon wrote:
>
> Hi, I tried updating to 2019 but my jaws version still says 2018.
> Although on my computer when I type in the search it shows 2019 but
> after entering it says 2018.  Was wondering if anyone knows what could
> be going on?  Should I have had to enter my authorization code or
> something?  Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Jaws 2019

Amy Gordon
 

Awesome! Thanks so much for your help. That fixed my problem.

On 11/18/18, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
Amy,

When you update to a new version of JAWS, such as going from JAWS 2018 to
JAWS 2019, the old version is still kept intact on your computer. On your
desktop or your start menu you should see both versions of JAWS available to
you, JAWS 2018 as well as JAWS 2019. When you restarted your computer I'm a
bit surprised that JAWS 2019 did not start automatically. However, I would
look specifically for JAWS 2019 and start that version. Make sure that 2018
is ***not*** running when you try to start 2019. You could point to JAWS
2019, press insert-f4 to unload the current JAWS version, and then press
enter after a few seconds. It may open the startup wizard and/or it may also
give you the option to merge settings from your previous version into the
newly installed one. Once you start JAWS 2019, press insert-J to open the
JAWS window and confirm that you are, in fact, running 2019. If you are, go
into the Options menu, choose Basics and set the start options to run that
version automatically.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
On 11/18/2018 1:48 PM, Amy Gordon wrote:

Hi, I tried updating to 2019 but my jaws version still says 2018.
Although on my computer when I type in the search it shows 2019 but
after entering it says 2018. Was wondering if anyone knows what could
be going on? Should I have had to enter my authorization code or
something? Thanks for any help.








Re: Jaws 2019

David Goldfield
 

Amy,

When you update to a new version of JAWS, such as going from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 2019, the old version is still kept intact on your computer. On your desktop or your start menu you should see both versions of JAWS available to you, JAWS 2018 as well as JAWS 2019. When you restarted your computer I'm a bit surprised that JAWS 2019 did not start automatically. However, I would look specifically for JAWS 2019 and start that version. Make sure that 2018 is ***not*** running when you try to start 2019. You could point to JAWS 2019, press insert-f4 to unload the current JAWS version, and then press enter after a few seconds. It may open the startup wizard and/or it may also give you the option to merge settings from your previous version into the newly installed one. Once you start JAWS 2019, press insert-J to open the JAWS window and confirm that you are, in fact, running 2019. If you are, go into the Options menu, choose Basics and set the start options to run that version automatically.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 11/18/2018 1:48 PM, Amy Gordon wrote:
Hi, I tried updating to 2019 but my jaws version still says 2018.
Although on my computer when I type in the search it shows 2019 but
after entering it says 2018.  Was wondering if anyone knows what could
be going on?  Should I have had to enter my authorization code or
something?  Thanks for any help.




Jaws 2019

Amy Gordon
 

Hi, I tried updating to 2019 but my jaws version still says 2018.
Although on my computer when I type in the search it shows 2019 but
after entering it says 2018. Was wondering if anyone knows what could
be going on? Should I have had to enter my authorization code or
something? Thanks for any help.


Re: Braille Display Questions

Eleni Vamvakari
 

Oh, good. They mentioned the three types of displays (the other being
80) so I wasn't sure if there were three different drivers or not.

I am trying to determine whether the Braille Me can handle polytonic
Greek. I need to find the list of languages that it supports. But
overall, since I will mostly be using it with NVDA, it doesn't matter.
Still, it would be nice.

I'm confused as to the cursor issues. When I used my braile note, it
had eight dots in a cell, but the bottom two were only used for the
cursor. There were only six actual braille keys. Is the Braille Me
like that? If so, I don't understand the issue.

I have a power bank which can switch between three levels of voltage,
one of them being 19. So as long as it has the right adapter plug, I
should be fine. But I doubt I would have to worry about the battery
for a while. *smile* I am used to things being charged with regular
adapters. The only devices that I have which can be charged via usb
are my phone and my hotspot, and the only reason why that is so is
that my power bank has a phone charger. The two devices came with
wall adapters.

On 17/11/2018, Aman Singer <aman.singer@...> wrote:
Hi Eleni,

You write:

Should I choose the 14 or the 40? I am guessing that, if I choose the 14,
six of the cells would remain empty, but that choosing the 40 might work.

There is only one driver for all focus/PM displays, at least so far as I
know. Where are you being asked to choose the length of the display? It's
been a while, but I don't remember being asked about that at all when I
installed. If you haven't installed yet, I should say that the drivers will
generally determine this on their own on usb and Bluetooth displays, unlike
pure serial ones.

You write:
As the manual to the Braille Me explains, it is NVDA, not the display
itself, which controls the language, so in that, they are both equal.

That is true when the display is displaying the data it receives from NVDA.
When the display is showing its own data, whether from its own firmware or
from a file opened on the display as a stand-alone device, the display's
language does matter, of course. As I said, though, the manufacturer of the
BrailleMe just can't, in the nature of things, be centred on languages using
the Latin script. It may well be worth asking the question as to how to add
languages or whether they can do so for you. Whether the six-dot nature of
the display will cause problems is another thing. Obviously, you'll have
cursor issues of some sort, but that has nothing to do with what the unit
can display in terms of language, the cursor issues exist just as much when
displaying English.

You write:

It is controlled by usb when disconnected from the unit, so I don't need to
worry about batteries dying, which I might have to do with the Braille Me.

That is, with all due respect to the designers of the BrailleME, the
strangest design decision for this display. I'm really lost as to why they
used a proprietary adapter rather than USB micro B or C. This manufacturer
is obviously vicious about driving down costs, why wouldn't they use the
more common connector and charging circuit to save themselves and their
customers money and aggravation? I'm sure they have good reasons, I just
can't think of what those reasons might be. Anyhow, for whatever reason,
they're using 19 volts. Battery packs outputting 19 volts are available but
they're expensive, a pain to get, and more of a headache in operation than
the USB battery packs. The charging and six-dot braille are the reasons I'm
not considering the BrailleMe, even as a backup.
Aman







-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 3:06 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Display Questions

Thank you for that link! Should I choose the 14 or the 40? I am guessing
that, if I choose the 14, six of the cells would remain empty, but that
choosing the 40 might work.

At any rate, I listened to the podcast and am reconsidering the Braille Me.
It seems that the issues really were fixed and the display has several
options which are important to me, including cursor-routing buttons and
translation between braille and txt. The bad thing is that it can't handle
rtf, which I use on a daily basis, but that can easily be overcome if and
when I choose to use the display on its own. At the same time, when
shipping and handling are included, it will probably cost at least $200 more
than the Pacmate, which, if we're discussing both the display portion and
the Notetaker, does offer a bit more, especially if I can find a wireless
card for it. As the manual to the Braille Me explains, it is NVDA, not the
display itself, which controls the language, so in that, they are both
equal. Now, I must find a review of the Pacmate, particularly of the
display, with regard to sound and appearance. I should also review the NVDA
commands for using it as opposed to the Braille Me. It is controlled by usb
when disconnected from the unit, so I don't need to worry about batteries
dying, which I might have to do with the Braille Me.

Overall, this decision is going to be a very difficult one, as both look
promising. I just need to find a reason why one is better than the other,
especially considering the huge price difference. This is an add-on for me,
not something that is essential, but it will be helpful in certain
situations.

On 17/11/2018, Aman Singer <aman.singer@...> wrote:
Hi Eleni,

You write:

I'm currently in the process of seeking Pacmate driver. From what I
recall, I must search for the Focus one, as it works on both units.

That's so. Try

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Focus/FocusBlueBrailleDisp
layDriver

This does work for the Pacmate as well as the focus. I have used it
on Windows 7 and above but see no reason why it would not work on XP,
given that the displays have been around for a while.

You write:
I never considered not taking into account opinions on the actual
braille of a braille display when reading a review. I thought that
would be a core component of the description and experience.

I used to agree with you, but have found that the quality of braille
is so subjective that other people's views can actually mislead.
Obviously, if there are a few reviews which all mention stuck dots or
other reliability issues, those are worth taking into account,
particularly if they're recent.
Again, if there are many reviews and all point out one defective point
in the braille (too weak, too strong, refreshes too slowly, etc.),
that too should be taken into account. As to the quality of the
braille itself, though, I'm tempted to say that one should really try
it for oneself. Your analogizing it to a keyboard is perfectly
reasonable. This is something only the end-user can judge. Keep in
mind also, if you will, that some people don't have a good basis for
comparison. There's a reason sighted people think narrator is a good
screen reader, for example. They are not familiar with the
state-of-the-art, and therefore will think anything works well
because, just for example, it talks. I grant that the perfect is the
enemy of the good, but in another way, the mediocre can be the enemy of
the good, too.

You write:

That is, even if I write something using Greek braile, if I saved it
and then tried to convert it to txt or rtf and use it with my
computer, it wouldn't work correctly.

That's true, but brf files are just text with the braille symbols
represented in them. You can, if you wish, open the file in notepad
and read it on the same or another display, though you will not hear
it represented properly in speech and though it will not be properly
displayed for a sighted user. This applies even if the braille display
does not natively support the language. Obviously, if the display does
support the language and its braille tables, it will allow you to have
the files brought into the displays format of choice and, when they
are saved, save the files in the mainstream format. If that's the
case, you can read the files with speech and send them to sighted
users.
HTH,
Aman


Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 11:44 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Display Questions

To Aman Singer:"
I'm currently in the process of seeking Pacmate driver. From what I
recall, I must search for the Focus one, as it works on both units.

No, I definitely wasn't being sarcastic with relation to his and him.
I am a grammar prescriptivist and am against political correctness and
the language it creates. So this made me smile.

Yes, I would consider the Pacmate to be an extra, but quite an
interesting one. I haven't used JFW since 4.5.

I always make sure that everything I buy on Ebay has been tested, is
working, and includes a return policy. There was one exception, but
the seller was extremely honest and specifically said that, due to the
age of the item, it might not work correctly, even though it was never
opened.

I never considered not taking into account opinions on the actual
braille of a braille display when reading a review. I thought that
would be a core component of the description and experience. But I
have only read a few such reviews in my life, since this is the first
time I considered buyin a braille display. Almost everything else
that I own is mainstream or cheap and simple enough that I could read
the description on the website and know whether i wanted it or not.
But I suppose it's like a keyboard. Everyone has his own opinion on
the matter.

I don't use bluetooth on anything, but it definitely explains the
extra expense. Plus, the one I saw was a 40-cell display, which
always cost more.

To Josh Kennedy:
I have heard negative things about the Orbit, so am a bit hesitant to
use it. As for the notetaker, it cannot save to the proper braille
code if it's not installed on the device. That is, even if I write
something using Greek braile, if I saved it and then tried to convert
it to txt or rtf and use it with my computer, it wouldn't work
correctly. Likewise, it probably couldn't read my files on my thumb
drive. But that doesn't really matter, as I will mainly be using such
a display with NVDA. I am glad that the issues with the Braille Me
have been resolved. As for the person I mentioned, he is not my friend.
This was from a review that I read.

To Victor:
Has your focus always had this issue or is it recent? I hope I don't
have the same issues with the Pacmate. I do remember that, sometimes,
the dots on my Braille Lite 2000 would stick up and I had to run my
finger across them, but that wasn't a serious issue. I can't ever
recall that happening with my BrailleNote. Personally, I wouldn't
mind 40 cells, though I would prefer them to be in two lines, not one.
It is easier to carry a smaller device.

To Chris G:
Thank you for the link. I am interested in hearing the podcast as well.

On 16/11/2018, Chris G <chris@...> wrote:
Hi Don,
Here is a link to the podcast in question.

https://www.mysticaccess.com/j04p


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*Subject:* [TechTalk] Braille Display Questions


Josh, please could you send me a link to that Braille Me presentation.
Thanks.
Don Roberts

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*Sent:* Friday, November 16, 2018 6:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Braille Display Questions

yes i can confirm all braille me issues have been fixed. i
listened to a pennsylvania council of the blind podcast which
demonstrates and confirms the braille me is now a good device to
own, along with the orbit20.




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Re: My Second Reason to Quit Using Firefox

Steve Matzura
 

Ha, true enough! I need an electronic copy of that.


On 11/18/2018 9:32 AM, Gene wrote:
Reality is the most tyrannical teacher.  An unforgettable aphorism by me.  It should be in Bartlett's.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:35 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] My Second Reason to Quit Using Firefox

I never thought this would happen. Imagine, me, noble, fair, long-haired
leaping known (LOL), giving up Firefox! You all already know I've found
one reason not to like the current version--the way it now treats
downloads. Today brings another.


I tried to log in to Twitter to test my password. This came about
because I need to log in somewhere else, and that somewhere-else gives
me the option of logging in with Twitter. There is apparently a problem
with that login capability, because I verified the validity and accuracy
of my Twitter password ...


... but I digress. I seem to be exceptionally good at that (LOL).


... Anyway, I Opened Firefox and went to the Twitter home page,
http://www.twitter.com. The whole top of the page is apparently now very
different from that which it used to be. The login link, when activated,
caused Firefox to abbend, abort, or otherwise quit in some silent way,
because the window closed and I got no message of failure. I tried to
log in using Internet Explorer, the page was displayed flawlessly, and
my password was in fact what I thought it to be.


So what's different about the Twitter home page that gives Firefox fits?
Will I try Chrome again because of this? I can certainly say that I'm
leaning precariously in that direction. Another bad behavior or two by
FFF and I just might fall over into the Chrome camp. Never thought it'd
happen.





Re: amerzon ehco

chris judge
 

I do believe you neew an amazon account, but setting up an amazon account is free.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of A.Mac via Groups.Io
Sent: November 17, 2018 7:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco

 

so you need a amerzon account?

can you set it up with out a amerzon account ?

 

On 17/11/2018 14:33, Chris G wrote:

No steps require sighted help, even for the Echo devices with screens.

One needs to know ones network name, password and Amazon credentials.

 


From: Ashley Breger via Groups.Io
Sent: Sat, Nov 17, 2018 6:21 AM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco

You have to put your Wi-Fi password into the Alexa app and there are a few other steps that may require sighted help. I would be happy to walk you through the steps if you want to give me a call at 219-595-21to 3.
 
 
Ashley Breger
 
On Nov 17, 2018, at 2:57 AM, A.Mac via Groups.Io <a.mcaneney@...> wrote:
 
hi all, i took the leap and bought a amerzon ehco 2 from amerzon on there  black friday deal, i.e it was £35 cheaper.
 
my question is, i know that you have to down load the alexa app to your phone to set up your ehco , but in the app do you have to put in your  wi-fi, and can it all be set up with siri ok or do you need sited help.
 
 
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Re: iPad issue with messages

 

Is it in iPad for our newer? If it is then you can ask Siri do I have new message? Siri will then read your new messages to you. You can also do the same thing with email.
Hope this helps,



Ashley Breger

On Nov 18, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Patrick Ford <xplorer1957@...> wrote:

Hi,

My messages icon shows that I have unread messages, but there are no unread or any other kind of messages in this program. I have restarted it a few times but still indicating that I have unread messages.

Does anyone know how to be rid of this notice?

Thanks.

Patrick

 

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Re: My Second Reason to Quit Using Firefox

Gene
 

Reality is the most tyrannical teacher.  An unforgettable aphorism by me.  It should be in Bartlett's.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:35 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] My Second Reason to Quit Using Firefox

I never thought this would happen. Imagine, me, noble, fair, long-haired
leaping known (LOL), giving up Firefox! You all already know I've found
one reason not to like the current version--the way it now treats
downloads. Today brings another.


I tried to log in to Twitter to test my password. This came about
because I need to log in somewhere else, and that somewhere-else gives
me the option of logging in with Twitter. There is apparently a problem
with that login capability, because I verified the validity and accuracy
of my Twitter password ...


... but I digress. I seem to be exceptionally good at that (LOL).


... Anyway, I Opened Firefox and went to the Twitter home page,
http://www.twitter.com. The whole top of the page is apparently now very
different from that which it used to be. The login link, when activated,
caused Firefox to abbend, abort, or otherwise quit in some silent way,
because the window closed and I got no message of failure. I tried to
log in using Internet Explorer, the page was displayed flawlessly, and
my password was in fact what I thought it to be.


So what's different about the Twitter home page that gives Firefox fits?
Will I try Chrome again because of this? I can certainly say that I'm
leaning precariously in that direction. Another bad behavior or two by
FFF and I just might fall over into the Chrome camp. Never thought it'd
happen.




iPad issue with messages

Patrick Ford
 

Hi,

My messages icon shows that I have unread messages, but there are no unread or any other kind of messages in this program. I have restarted it a few times but still indicating that I have unread messages.

Does anyone know how to be rid of this notice?

Thanks.

Patrick

 

Come and See

ScripturePassage+subscribe@groups.io

 


Re: amerzon ehco

Gene
 

I think Pam knows those things or generally what smart speakers are and do.  But the word was misspelled.  But a little thought and association should tell people in general what is meant.  Don't take things literally, especially in modern times, when there are no standards forwriting on the Internet and declining standards for writing everywhere else.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco

Hi Pamela,


The Amazon Echo and its related devices the Echo Dot, Echo Show and so on are devices generally in the category of what are known as smart speakers.  They can be used to access the Internet via a WIFI network and can listen to free and subscription services for music as well as radio stations from such sources as Tune In Sirius XM and the like.  They can also be used to interface with smart devices around your house such as intercoms, micro-wave ovens and security systems.


They can be activated by voice commands such as: Alexa, play WGR sports radio 550 Buffalo from Radio.com.  Or Alexa: play Happy by Pharrell Williams from Amazon Music or where ever.


The Amazon line of devices is produced by the gargantuan Amazon corporation and their chief rival at this time is the Google Home devices produced by the gargantuan Google corporation.


HTH.



On 11/17/2018 11:06 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Okay; I’ve been seeing these messages.  Now, I finally read that word with the cursor.  What is Amerzon?  Pam.
 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco
 

so you need a amerzon account?

can you set it up with out a amerzon account ?


On 17/11/2018 14:33, Chris G wrote:
No steps require sighted help, even for the Echo devices with screens.
One needs to know ones network name, password and Amazon credentials.


From: Ashley Breger via Groups.Io
Sent: Sat, Nov 17, 2018 6:21 AM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] amerzon ehco

You have to put your Wi-Fi password into the Alexa app and there are a few other steps that may require sighted help. I would be happy to walk you through the steps if you want to give me a call at 219-595-21to 3.


Ashley Breger

On Nov 17, 2018, at 2:57 AM, A.Mac via Groups.Io mailto:a.mcaneney@... wrote:

hi all, i took the leap and bought a amerzon ehco 2 from amerzon on there  black friday deal, i.e it was £35 cheaper.

my question is, i know that you have to down load the alexa app to your phone to set up your ehco , but in the app do you have to put in your  wi-fi, and can it all be set up with siri ok or do you need sited help.


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Re: Length of a white cane?

Gene
 

I don't have a rule about whether I use a cane when walking with a sighted person, though I often do use it to an extent.  That is, I may hold it in front of me and move it somewhat, though not as far to the left and right as usual.  I don't recall exactly what I do because whatever I do, I've done wthouth thinking much about it for a long time.  My concern is not to have the person run me into something, which has happened  now and then so, as long as I am covered more or less in front of me, that's fine. 
 
As a gangster said in Star Trek's "A Piece of the Action," "Nobody trusts nobody but himself."  To which Sppock said, "Sir, you are using a double negative."  The gangster didn't have any idea what Spock was talking about, but all that's a different story.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?

i always take it when walking with a sighted person, and I always have it open and use it.  As I have said before: you can’t rely on that person, totally.  They may want you to, or at least say they do, but you have to look out for yourself.  Lots of things could happen.  You never know when something might happen to that person, and you might have to take charge.  If you leave your cane home, you are helpless, then, to go and find help, or whatever you might have to do.  And anyway, it’s just better for you to assume the responsibility for looking out for yourself, even though you are being guided by, or walking with, another person.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
 
If you don't take your cane with you, you are making yourself dependent.  With some people, that is just because they don't think about it that way, for others, it is a discomfort with blindness.  A sighted person, and there are some, who see so poorly without glasses that they can't function well or perhaps even safely would never say, I'll be with my sighted friend so I won't wear or take my glasses with me.  Blind people need to respect their independence and the toolls of that independence.  Is your independence less important than anyone else's?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Length of a white cane?
 
I always use it when I am walking with a sighted person.  You never know
when you might not be able to depend on that person suddenly, for some
reason.  Also, I have been smashed into things by sighted people who were,
theoretically, guiding me.  Pam.