Date   

Re: installing memory myself..?

Monte Single
 

Hi Jim,

 

Can you take the cover/case off the computer and locate the existing ram.

Make sure the system is turned off and unplugged before you do this.

If you can open the case and find the ram yourself,  then the chances are real good that you can install the new ram also.

Make sure the new ram is compatible with the old.

 

Good luck,

 

Monte

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Wohlgamuth
Sent: November 11, 2020 1:53 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] installing memory myself..?

 

Hi There Folks!
A local friend of mine put this system together for me about 7 and a half years ago.  I have had the video card as well as the HD which is now a 1 TB upgraded.  The only thing that hasn't been updated is the memory. I presently have 4 GB which I believe is a bit low..? Although aside from being a bit laggy at times I have really not experienced any serious issues with it except for the sluggishness.  Question, if I was to get another 4 to 8 GB of ram, how easy would itbe for me to install it myself?? I know this is possible but was wondering how easy or feesable it would be for me to do this? BTW, this system is a somewhat modified Tiger Direct kit. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Much THANKS and Have A Good 1!     


Re: Bluetooth headsets

Andy
 

I recently purchased a set of Raycon bluetooth earbuds. I got the E25 model, also referred to as the Everyday model. They are tiny and fit well into my ears. They are comfortable, and you almost forget they are there. The audio is decent, and they have better base than I've heard on other units. They paired easily with my iphone and my Victor Trek.
The documentation says that they are compatible with Alexa devices and Google Assistant.
They cost $79 and can be gotten at www.buyracon.com

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Pingstock" <kpingstock@gmail.com>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 7:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Bluetooth headsets


Good morning to all
Hi am looking for a Bluetooth headset preferably earbuds, that I can use with my laptop and my Apple products. Does anyone have any suggestions

Thank you Kathy


Re: Mis-match detected

Gene
 

I don't know but you should be able to solve the problem by copying and pasting the link into your browsers address bar.

If the link is not written out, but is a link such as a title or click here, you can get the underlying link in many e-mail programs. If you tell us which one you are using, we may be able to tell you how to do so.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 1:19 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Mis-match detected

Hi All,


It is not that unusual for me to click on a link and then the words
'mis-match detected will pop up. I am then given the choice of
continuingt to my original destination or clicking on a link to take me
to google. The first time I remember this happening was when I got an
email from my church that had a link to the sermon of the week and when
I entered on that link, a mis-match was detected.


Can someone please let me know why this is happening or tell me what has
gotten into my laptop to make this happen? I'd love to get this cleared up.


Many Thanks in Advance!

Nancy


installing memory myself..?

Jim Wohlgamuth
 

Hi There Folks!
A local friend of mine put this system together for me about 7 and a half years ago.  I have had the video card as well as the HD which is now a 1 TB upgraded.  The only thing that hasn't been updated is the memory. I presently have 4 GB which I believe is a bit low..? Although aside from being a bit laggy at times I have really not experienced any serious issues with it except for the sluggishness.  Question, if I was to get another 4 to 8 GB of ram, how easy would itbe for me to install it myself?? I know this is possible but was wondering how easy or feesable it would be for me to do this? BTW, this system is a somewhat modified Tiger Direct kit. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Much THANKS and Have A Good 1!     


Mis-match detected

Nancy Hill
 

Hi All,


It is not that unusual for me to click on a link and then the words 'mis-match detected will pop up.  I am then given the choice of continuingt to my original destination or clicking on a link to take me to google.  The first time I remember this happening was when I got an email from my church that had a link to the sermon of the week and when I entered on that link, a mis-match was detected.


Can someone please let me know why this is happening or tell me what has gotten into my laptop to make this happen?  I'd love to get this cleared up.


Many Thanks in Advance!

Nancy


Re: Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

Hope Williamson
 

Right, and there are some people as far along as I am, who still don't quite pick it up. I have a friend who's like this. I'd have to walk her step-by-step through those instructions. Considering this mostly came from experience, I'm not sure why this happens.



On 11/10/2020 12:44 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 03:37 PM, Hope Williamson wrote:
I get that there are a lot of people not in their 20th year
-
Indeed.  And it's incumbent on them to identify themselves as such.  Anyone who knows me from the various lists I'm on has seen me carefully nurse along true beginners many times.  That's what one should do.

But what I won't do is assume everyone on these lists, or even most on these lists, are true beginners.  Given the names I've been seeing and the time over which I've been seeing them in multiple venues this simply is not the case, which was my central point.

One has to make some assumption about what one believe about a new member if they don't introduce themselves and their skill level.  Mine is they've got basic computer and screen reader skills.  If they don't, and they say so, then one can code shift as appropriate.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

Hope Williamson
 

I've always had a sighted person near by when engaging in tech support.
Mostly because they'll ask if I can see something, the answer is
inevidably well... I don't because I can't see at all. Therefore, I'll
ask them what they can see, and report back to the person. This resulted
in someone hanging up on me once.

On 11/10/2020 12:54 PM, joanne wrote:
But as Gene said, everyone is at a different level or does some things
quite well but struggles with other facets of learning technology.
That is, I thought, one purpose of groups like this: to ask for and
receive assistance about screen readers, browsers, etc. And for some
of us it is very confusing trying to follow directions that aren't
given in a more specific or screen reader-oriented way. I admit to
asking a sighted person to be with me on the line when talking to some
tech support people, because I wasn't quite getting what the person
was wanting me to do. Not giving the phone to a sighted person, but
being with them so I could take part in doing what I could. But I
wouldn't judge anyone who for the most part depended on people; I mean
after all, if they cared enough to join the group, they too may
someday feel confident and more able to do things more independently.
I do hope people won't be afraid to seek help or ask for something to
be clarified because they have been told they should know certain
things already. I have received valuable assistance from this group,
and I have also found the courage and just plain challenging fun to
learn some things on my own. But again, we're all at different
learning levels and I think we should not be made to feel we should be
at a certain place in tech skills to be a part of this group.

Also, many of us have had training as well as being a part of tech
groups. If we received training that didn't really fully explain how
sighted people may look at or say something, that doesn't make us less
independent. We learn different ways and with different instructors,
just as every sighted person is different and at varying skill levels.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Hope Williamson" <webspinner@mail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 3:37 PM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows
10, Version20H2

OK OK so this is around my 20th year using a screen reader. Yep, I know
how to translate instructions written by sighted people. In fact, I just
did. It took like 15 seconds. I can do it on the fly at this point.

    I get that there are a lot of people not in their20th year, some
are a lot newer. It's just something I learned over time. I didn't have
any formal training for about the first year. Even then, it's something
I picked up between my formal training, and my self-teaching.


On 11/10/2020 11:57 AM, Gene wrote:
I never said that you should leave the list.  You have your opinion,
as much anger as it may generate on the list.  If, however, your
opinion generates the amount of traffic I anticipate I may ask that
you not repeatedly express it for the sake of the list functioning
smoothly and not repeatedly stirring up a lot of emotions for no
benefit.

I don't ask people to leave the list because of their opinion. That is
a completely different matter than my responsibility to keep the list
from becoming too contentious.  I have no objection to you expressing
this opinion, but not repeatedly.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows
10, Version20H2

Gene,

           You are willing to assume a level of ignorance that I
cannot, will not, and has not ever been shown to me in all my years of
tutoring. I'll leave it at that.

           Also, you, any you, are obligated to ask for clarification
when required.  You are not permitted to demand that any and all
advice be given in exactly the format and manner you see fit.

            If you would prefer I leave this list, then say so, I
will. But I will not presume the level of ignorance you do, and I will
not put up with demands that all sighted instructions be translated
into screen reader language, as I do and will presume any long term
user of a computer with a screen reader already knows exactly how to
do this, as they will have already read thousands of instruction sets
written in "mouse centric" language.






Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Alan Robbins
 

You could try a repair of your Office software or if you only have Outlook,
a repair of that.
Other option would be call Microsoft disability desk.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:32 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message,
Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press,
Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some
keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is
not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will
lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not
responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just
simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

What's your JAWS version?

And I'll say it, though you've almost certainly heard it, but get off of Windows 7, which is now officially out of support.  It is still possible to do a free, in-place upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 using these instructions: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file
The only difference between a repair install/in-place feature update and an in-place upgrade is that all the steps in those directions take place under Windows 7 up to and including kicking off the setup.exe file.  Anyone doing an in-place upgrade should take a full system image backup of their existing Windows 7 installation if at all possible before doing so.  I've never had one go catastrophically bad, but have had a couple that didn't take and were rolled back to Windows 7.  There is, however, the possibility of the very rare catastrophic failure during an in-place upgrade, which is why you want the insurance of a system image backup from which to restore if the worst were to somehow happen.

I used Office 2010 for many years, up until around a year ago, when it was getting "creaky" on a lot of fronts, many not related to screen readers.  I believe it's now officially out of support as well.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Hi everyone,
For quite some time now, whenever I attempt to forward an email message, Jaws completely just stops talking, and no matter what keys I might press, Jaws is completely silent. Several minutes later after I keep pressing some keys just to see if I can hear something, Jaws starts reading, Microsoft is not responding if I close the program now or restart the program, I will lose any unsaved data, then I get the message saying, U.S spelling is not responding. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to stop this, and just simply forward an email message?
Using Outlook 2010, Windows 7.
Thank you all in advance.


Janet


Peace Be With You.


Bluetooth headsets

Kathy Pingstock
 

Good morning to all
Hi am looking for a Bluetooth headset preferably earbuds, that I can use with my laptop and my Apple products. Does anyone have any suggestions

Thank you Kathy


This week on Eyes On Success: Card Mechanic

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This week’s episode of eyes On Success is a little different and a lot of fun:

2046 Card Mechanic (Nov. 11, 2020)
Show Notes
Close-up Magician of the Year Award winner, Richard Turner can do things with a deck of cards that you would think are impossible even if you could see them. Well, he can’t see them either. Hosts Nancy and Peter Torpey talk with Richard about how, despite his lack of vision, he works the cards and amazes audiences with his skills as a professional card mechanic.

 

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Re: Folders Don't show up Under Programs (x86) Folder

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Thank you for reporting back with your findings and solution.  It may not happen again for ages, but it's eventually going to happen to someone else.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Folders Don't show up Under Programs (x86) Folder

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

The problem is solved.  I do not know how this happened or how it could happen. Somehow, some way, another Program files (x86) folder was created. This has to do most likely to a recent Windows update. In any case, what I was seeing was that non functional folder.  When I would use first letter folder navigation,I would land on that folder and see nothing inside.  As I browsed the list of folders under the root directory, I saw there was another folder with the exact same name: Program files (x86).  How this could occur, I have no idea, but when I guess Windows installations can violate their own rules somehow. It was exactly the  same with respect to spelling and capitalization. Go figure.

In any case, I deleted this non functional folder and the true remaining functional folder has all the files and folders as it should and they are visible.


On 11/10/2020 11:14 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
64-bit software installs under C:\Program Files

32-bit software installs under C:\Program Files (x86)

and this has been the case for many, many years now.  Nothing has changed at all about that and I have done recent complete uninstalls and reinstalls of NVDA, which is 32-bit, and lands in the x86 folder when installed.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 03:54 PM, joanne wrote:
But as Gene said, everyone is at a different level or does some things quite well but struggles with other facets of learning technology.
-
A perfectly valid point, and one I agree with 100%, but it has nothing to do with what one can and should use as one's base assumption about the relative skill level of an unknown individual new to a list who's said nothing specific.

You have to make some assumption about what you're aiming for.  It's a matter of where on the skill set level you're presuming.

It's interesting, but I really feel like this entire topic, in this particular group, is a classic example of the old saw, "No good deed goes unpunished."  Also a classic example of, "You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but never all of the people all of the time."   I long ago learned to not even attempt pleasing all of the people even some of the time.  There are some who cannot be pleased.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

joanne
 

But as Gene said, everyone is at a different level or does some things quite well but struggles with other facets of learning technology. That is, I thought, one purpose of groups like this: to ask for and receive assistance about screen readers, browsers, etc. And for some of us it is very confusing trying to follow directions that aren't given in a more specific or screen reader-oriented way. I admit to asking a sighted person to be with me on the line when talking to some tech support people, because I wasn't quite getting what the person was wanting me to do. Not giving the phone to a sighted person, but being with them so I could take part in doing what I could. But I wouldn't judge anyone who for the most part depended on people; I mean after all, if they cared enough to join the group, they too may someday feel confident and more able to do things more independently. I do hope people won't be afraid to seek help or ask for something to be clarified because they have been told they should know certain things already. I have received valuable assistance from this group, and I have also found the courage and just plain challenging fun to learn some things on my own. But again, we're all at different learning levels and I think we should not be made to feel we should be at a certain place in tech skills to be a part of this group.

Also, many of us have had training as well as being a part of tech groups. If we received training that didn't really fully explain how sighted people may look at or say something, that doesn't make us less independent. We learn different ways and with different instructors, just as every sighted person is different and at varying skill levels.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Hope Williamson" <webspinner@mail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 3:37 PM
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

OK OK so this is around my 20th year using a screen reader. Yep, I know
how to translate instructions written by sighted people. In fact, I just
did. It took like 15 seconds. I can do it on the fly at this point.

I get that there are a lot of people not in their20th year, some
are a lot newer. It's just something I learned over time. I didn't have
any formal training for about the first year. Even then, it's something
I picked up between my formal training, and my self-teaching.


On 11/10/2020 11:57 AM, Gene wrote:
I never said that you should leave the list. You have your opinion,
as much anger as it may generate on the list. If, however, your
opinion generates the amount of traffic I anticipate I may ask that
you not repeatedly express it for the sake of the list functioning
smoothly and not repeatedly stirring up a lot of emotions for no benefit.

I don't ask people to leave the list because of their opinion. That is
a completely different matter than my responsibility to keep the list
from becoming too contentious. I have no objection to you expressing
this opinion, but not repeatedly.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows
10, Version20H2

Gene,

You are willing to assume a level of ignorance that I
cannot, will not, and has not ever been shown to me in all my years of
tutoring. I'll leave it at that.

Also, you, any you, are obligated to ask for clarification
when required. You are not permitted to demand that any and all
advice be given in exactly the format and manner you see fit.

If you would prefer I leave this list, then say so, I
will. But I will not presume the level of ignorance you do, and I will
not put up with demands that all sighted instructions be translated
into screen reader language, as I do and will presume any long term
user of a computer with a screen reader already knows exactly how to
do this, as they will have already read thousands of instruction sets
written in "mouse centric" language.



Re: Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 03:37 PM, Hope Williamson wrote:
I get that there are a lot of people not in their 20th year
-
Indeed.  And it's incumbent on them to identify themselves as such.  Anyone who knows me from the various lists I'm on has seen me carefully nurse along true beginners many times.  That's what one should do.

But what I won't do is assume everyone on these lists, or even most on these lists, are true beginners.  Given the names I've been seeing and the time over which I've been seeing them in multiple venues this simply is not the case, which was my central point.

One has to make some assumption about what one believe about a new member if they don't introduce themselves and their skill level.  Mine is they've got basic computer and screen reader skills.  If they don't, and they say so, then one can code shift as appropriate.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

Hope Williamson
 

OK OK so this is around my 20th year using a screen reader. Yep, I know
how to translate instructions written by sighted people. In fact, I just
did. It took like 15 seconds. I can do it on the fly at this point.

    I get that there are a lot of people not in their20th year, some
are a lot newer. It's just something I learned over time. I didn't have
any formal training for about the first year. Even then, it's something
I picked up between my formal training, and my self-teaching.

On 11/10/2020 11:57 AM, Gene wrote:
I never said that you should leave the list.  You have your opinion,
as much anger as it may generate on the list.  If, however, your
opinion generates the amount of traffic I anticipate I may ask that
you not repeatedly express it for the sake of the list functioning
smoothly and not repeatedly stirring up a lot of emotions for no benefit.

I don't ask people to leave the list because of their opinion. That is
a completely different matter than my responsibility to keep the list
from becoming too contentious.  I have no objection to you expressing
this opinion, but not repeatedly.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows
10, Version20H2

Gene,

           You are willing to assume a level of ignorance that I
cannot, will not, and has not ever been shown to me in all my years of
tutoring. I'll leave it at that.

           Also, you, any you, are obligated to ask for clarification
when required.  You are not permitted to demand that any and all
advice be given in exactly the format and manner you see fit.

            If you would prefer I leave this list, then say so, I
will. But I will not presume the level of ignorance you do, and I will
not put up with demands that all sighted instructions be translated
into screen reader language, as I do and will presume any long term
user of a computer with a screen reader already knows exactly how to
do this, as they will have already read thousands of instruction sets
written in "mouse centric" language.


Re: Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

Gene
 

I never said that you should leave the list. You have your opinion, as much anger as it may generate on the list. If, however, your opinion generates the amount of traffic I anticipate I may ask that you not repeatedly express it for the sake of the list functioning smoothly and not repeatedly stirring up a lot of emotions for no benefit.

I don't ask people to leave the list because of their opinion. That is a completely different matter than my responsibility to keep the list from becoming too contentious. I have no objection to you expressing this opinion, but not repeatedly.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

Gene,

You are willing to assume a level of ignorance that I cannot, will not, and has not ever been shown to me in all my years of tutoring. I'll leave it at that.

Also, you, any you, are obligated to ask for clarification when required. You are not permitted to demand that any and all advice be given in exactly the format and manner you see fit.

If you would prefer I leave this list, then say so, I will. But I will not presume the level of ignorance you do, and I will not put up with demands that all sighted instructions be translated into screen reader language, as I do and will presume any long term user of a computer with a screen reader already knows exactly how to do this, as they will have already read thousands of instruction sets written in "mouse centric" language.
--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Restoring Classic ALT+TAB behavior in Windows 10, Version20H2

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Gene,

            You are willing to assume a level of ignorance that I cannot, will not, and has not ever been shown to me in all my years of tutoring.  I'll leave it at that.

            Also, you, any you, are obligated to ask for clarification when required.  You are not permitted to demand that any and all advice be given in exactly the format and manner you see fit.

             If you would prefer I leave this list, then say so, I will.  But I will not presume the level of ignorance you do, and I will not put up with demands that all sighted instructions be translated into screen reader language, as I do and will presume any long term user of a computer with a screen reader already knows exactly how to do this, as they will have already read thousands of instruction sets written in "mouse centric" language.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna

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