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Re: Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

Rick Alfaro
 

Dave, I think you might be right on the money. This is the only thing that actually makes sense to me. Your suggestion would probably prove this out for sure so I may try this at some point. I just occurred to me that I should probably try using the MS generic driver instead of the OEM one to see if that makes any difference. Thanks much.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Help with very unusual issue with no solution thus far

 

Hi Rick,

 

If the only thing that changed on the system was the monitor and the Video Drivers, then looks like you've got a incompatibility issue with either Jaws and those New Drivers, or the Clipboard Software and those Drivers. 

 

JAWS does have a special ability to intercept Text information set through most Drivers.  And NVDA, I believe, does not have this ability, and so can't read this text in the normal way text sent to the screen might be read by a Screen Reader. 

 

 

Sounds like a very nice monitor, but to check this out better, uninstall those new drivers, and disconnect the New Monitor.  Install the old Video Drivers, and re-hook up the old Monitor.  If you once again can read everything you need, then looks like you've got a compatibility issues with those new Drivers.

 

Grumpy Dave

 

On 10/15/2020 12:05 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

Will attempt to describe this issue as best I can. I’ve brought this up with JFW support but no joy there.

 

This is on a very fast Cyber Power gaming PC running at 3.9 GHZ with 16GB of memory. The application exhibiting the issue Clipmate from ThornSoft development. ClipMate is a clipboard manager. This app has worked flawlessly for years now but things changed when I installed a 43 inch 4k monitor to replace a smaller one I had via and HDMI port provided on my video card.

 

After installing the larger monitor, JFW stopped tracking the program context menus with the window in a restored state. Maximizing the window with tracking somewhat for listviews but made no difference with the context menus. This pretty much has made the program fairly useless. I’ve tried bringing down the screen resolution from 2160 to 1080p which was what my old monitor was set to but it made no difference. I also updated the video card drivers directly from the OEM’s web site again with no difference.

 

If anyone has any other ideas, I’m all ears and will gratefully give them a try.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 


Re: NVDA is improved!

enes sarıbaş
 

Ok what I am about to say  might make some folks angry but. Why did it take so long  to fix NVDA and microsoft word lag issues? This has been an issue ever since  I used Microsoft office,  with NVDA, and my tickets that I opened about it, I was told it was just my computer and not the fault of NVDA. Do I need a xeon or threadripper processor to run microsoft word with NVDA?

On 10/18/2020 6:31 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

NVDA works great in Zoom, announces all the buttons and menus and so on.

Ann P.


Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Mike B
 

Hi Alan,
 
You have to modify a speech and sound scheme to make Jaws report, Cap or Capital, on a capital letter.  Below are 2 sets of steps if you want to try them.  Step #2 is the easiest.
 
#1:

1. Open the Settings Center with, Jaws / Insert key + 6, on the number row,
& press, control, shift + D, to open Settings Center default all
applications
2. Arrow down to Speech & Sound Schemes, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Modify Schemes...., & press the spacebar to open.  Don't
press enter here!  Pressing enter will close the Settings Center.  Also make
note of what scheme is highlighted as the default scheme.
4. Tab to, edit selected scheme button, & press the spacebar.
5. You should be on the, General Page / tab so, control + tab to the Misc. page / tab, & tab 1 time into the list of options.
 Arrow down to, Cap             Speak text           Using SingleCapVoice
tab 1 time to a list of choices, arrow up / down to, Speak Item checked.
6. Tab 1 time to, select voice alias button, and press the spacebar to open this list of voice options to speak, Cap, for capitol letters.  Tab to, Okay
press the spacebar, tab to, Text edit and Type in the word, Cap, or whatever you want spoken for capitol letters, and tab to, Okay, and press the spacebar. 
7. Tab to, save selected scheme button, and press the spacebar.  Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay and press enter to save and close.
8. Unload Jaws and reload Jaws for the change to take affect.
 
#2:
From: Marquette, Ed
 
One way is to switch the speech scheme.  If you switch to proof reading (attributes) you will hear "cap" instead of the pitch increase.
The down side is that you also get attribute changes; however, you get a voice change, not announcement of "bold" "underline" and so on.
One could modify that scheme so it just says cap, but I've never taken the time to do that.
Ed
 
 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

So, is there an equivalent command in jaws or is the pitch change the only
way? I like the way my iPhone handles this by announcing a capital letter.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 7:43 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Bob,

Go into the menus with capslock-n and choose preferences, then speech and
it's in there.

Ann P.

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Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Mike B
 


No Bob, I should have explained it better the first time.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Yeah that worked...and now that I'm left feeling like an idiot, well thanks!

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Bob,
 
You misunderstood the command.  The NVDA key is the same as the Jaws key, you hold down the , Insert key.  So for this command hold down the, Insert & Control keys at the same time,
and press the letter, V, as in Victor.
 
The keystroke is, Insert, Control + V.
 
 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized


OK, got it. But that con v doesn't do anything

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Bob,
 
To get to the Speech settings / properties page quickly press, Insert / NVDA Key, Control + V.
 
Now tab many times to find the options for how you want the capital letters reported.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized


Hi, just how would I do this in NVDA?? Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Dave,
NVDA has two options for differentiating between lower and upper case.
You can either have the voice change pitch, or you can have a beep. Or
you can have both.
Once you've selected that option, you can simply arrow to the letter and
it will do its thing.
Not sure how it works in braille, if at all. But again, beeps should
work in that case as well.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 17/10/2020 08:40 pm, Dave wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> I've looked through the Jaws documentation, and I must have just missed
> it.  But what is the Command to read if a letter under the Cursor is a
> Capitalized letter?
>
>
> I have found how to find out the size, and the font, but not whether or
> not it is in Caps.
>
>
> did call Jaws, but their Tech Support was unavailable due to a Network
> issue on their end.
>
>
> Or if you happen to know the same command for NVDA that would work for
> me too.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Grumpy Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
























Re: email question

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle. The messages that make me laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air lasts through the whole message. At the end you can actually hear yourself gasping for breath. It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

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Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Onwardbob
 

Thanks that's pretty much what I did

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 4:43 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Bob,

Go into the menus with capslock-n and choose preferences, then speech
and it's in there.

Ann P.

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Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Onwardbob
 

Yeah that worked...and now that I'm left feeling like an idiot, well thanks!

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Bob,

You misunderstood the command. The NVDA key is the same as the Jaws key, you hold down the , Insert key. So for this command hold down the, Insert & Control keys at the same time,
and press the letter, V, as in Victor.

The keystroke is, Insert, Control + V.


Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized


OK, got it. But that con v doesn't do anything

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Bob,

To get to the Speech settings / properties page quickly press, Insert / NVDA Key, Control + V.

Now tab many times to find the options for how you want the capital letters reported.

Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized


Hi, just how would I do this in NVDA?? Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Dave,
NVDA has two options for differentiating between lower and upper case.
You can either have the voice change pitch, or you can have a beep. Or
you can have both.
Once you've selected that option, you can simply arrow to the letter and
it will do its thing.
Not sure how it works in braille, if at all. But again, beeps should
work in that case as well.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 17/10/2020 08:40 pm, Dave wrote:
Hello,


I've looked through the Jaws documentation, and I must have just missed
it. But what is the Command to read if a letter under the Cursor is a
Capitalized letter?


I have found how to find out the size, and the font, but not whether or
not it is in Caps.


did call Jaws, but their Tech Support was unavailable due to a Network
issue on their end.


Or if you happen to know the same command for NVDA that would work for
me too.


Thanks,


Grumpy Dave








Re: email question

Laz
 

So very true Gene!

Stay safe,

Laz

On 10/18/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
people should rread their messages before sending, especially if using
dictation. This isn't just true of list mail, but in general. Dictation
isn't fool proof and it may be embarrassing to send an unread message with a

serious error.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 9:33 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

My take is that perhaps he's using dictation and the speech
recognition misheard the word forward as board?

Stay safe,

Laz

On 10/17/20, Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@...> wrote:
What do you mean board them to me? Pam.

From: lance allison
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 4:26 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

I or someone could just board them to you with your current email address
you use



On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 1:58 PM Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@...>
wrote:

I’d hope that would work, but I find that whenever you contact your
service provider, it just turns into a war about whose fault it is: the
list
says it’s your service provider, and your service provider blames it on
the
list. I hope she has better luck. Pam.

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Ask the group owner or moderator to send you a bounce probe message,
then
once you get it, make sure to activate the link at the end. It's worth a
shot.

If that doesn't do it, I'd check with your e-mail service provider to
see
if they're blocking whatever the domain name groups.google.com. This
would
be very odd, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

--

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rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

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Re: email question

Gene
 

people should rread their messages before sending, especially if using dictation. This isn't just true of list mail, but in general. Dictation isn't fool proof and it may be embarrassing to send an unread message with a serious error.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 9:33 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

My take is that perhaps he's using dictation and the speech
recognition misheard the word forward as board?

Stay safe,

Laz

On 10/17/20, Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@...> wrote:
What do you mean board them to me? Pam.

From: lance allison
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 4:26 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

I or someone could just board them to you with your current email address
you use



On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 1:58 PM Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@...>
wrote:

I’d hope that would work, but I find that whenever you contact your
service provider, it just turns into a war about whose fault it is: the list
says it’s your service provider, and your service provider blames it on the
list. I hope she has better luck. Pam.

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Ask the group owner or moderator to send you a bounce probe message, then
once you get it, make sure to activate the link at the end. It's worth a
shot.

If that doesn't do it, I'd check with your e-mail service provider to see
if they're blocking whatever the domain name groups.google.com. This would
be very odd, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they
rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

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Re: email question

Laz
 

My take is that perhaps he's using dictation and the speech
recognition misheard the word forward as board?

Stay safe,

Laz

On 10/17/20, Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@...> wrote:
What do you mean board them to me? Pam.

From: lance allison
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 4:26 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

I or someone could just board them to you with your current email address
you use



On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 1:58 PM Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@...>
wrote:

I’d hope that would work, but I find that whenever you contact your
service provider, it just turns into a war about whose fault it is: the list
says it’s your service provider, and your service provider blames it on the
list. I hope she has better luck. Pam.

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Ask the group owner or moderator to send you a bounce probe message, then
once you get it, make sure to activate the link at the end. It's worth a
shot.

If that doesn't do it, I'd check with your e-mail service provider to see
if they're blocking whatever the domain name groups.google.com. This would
be very odd, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

--

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Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Alan Robbins
 

So, is there an equivalent command in jaws or is the pitch change the only
way? I like the way my iPhone handles this by announcing a capital letter.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 7:43 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Bob,

Go into the menus with capslock-n and choose preferences, then speech and
it's in there.

Ann P.

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Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Ann Parsons
 

Bob,

Go into the menus with capslock-n and choose preferences, then speech and it's in there.

Ann P.

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Re: NVDA is improved!

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

NVDA works great in Zoom, announces all the buttons and menus and so on.

Ann P.

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Has anyone ever downloaded podcasts with Book Port Plus

Steven Johnson
 

I have a Book Port Plus connected to my wifi.  I am trying to access podcasts from the BPP’s list of podcasts.  The unit will update the episodes list on some of the feeds, but either tells me that download failed, or the file type of the episode is unsupported.  Have any of you ever gotten to listen to podcasts on the BPP.  If so, how long has it been since you did so?  I’m trying to figure out if something is wrong with the unit, or if its technology is not compatible with modern podcast feeds.


Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Mike B
 


Bob,
 
You misunderstood the command.  The NVDA key is the same as the Jaws key, you hold down the , Insert key.  So for this command hold down the, Insert & Control keys at the same time,
and press the letter, V, as in Victor.
 
The keystroke is, Insert, Control + V.
 
 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

OK, got it. But that con v doesn't do anything

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Bob,
 
To get to the Speech settings / properties page quickly press, Insert / NVDA Key, Control + V.
 
Now tab many times to find the options for how you want the capital letters reported.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized


Hi, just how would I do this in NVDA?? Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Dave,
NVDA has two options for differentiating between lower and upper case.
You can either have the voice change pitch, or you can have a beep. Or
you can have both.
Once you've selected that option, you can simply arrow to the letter and
it will do its thing.
Not sure how it works in braille, if at all. But again, beeps should
work in that case as well.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 17/10/2020 08:40 pm, Dave wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> I've looked through the Jaws documentation, and I must have just missed
> it.  But what is the Command to read if a letter under the Cursor is a
> Capitalized letter?
>
>
> I have found how to find out the size, and the font, but not whether or
> not it is in Caps.
>
>
> did call Jaws, but their Tech Support was unavailable due to a Network
> issue on their end.
>
>
> Or if you happen to know the same command for NVDA that would work for
> me too.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Grumpy Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

















Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Onwardbob
 

OK, got it. But that con v doesn't do anything

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Bob,

To get to the Speech settings / properties page quickly press, Insert / NVDA Key, Control + V.

Now tab many times to find the options for how you want the capital letters reported.

Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized


Hi, just how would I do this in NVDA?? Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Dave,
NVDA has two options for differentiating between lower and upper case.
You can either have the voice change pitch, or you can have a beep. Or
you can have both.
Once you've selected that option, you can simply arrow to the letter and
it will do its thing.
Not sure how it works in braille, if at all. But again, beeps should
work in that case as well.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 17/10/2020 08:40 pm, Dave wrote:
Hello,


I've looked through the Jaws documentation, and I must have just missed
it. But what is the Command to read if a letter under the Cursor is a
Capitalized letter?


I have found how to find out the size, and the font, but not whether or
not it is in Caps.


did call Jaws, but their Tech Support was unavailable due to a Network
issue on their end.


Or if you happen to know the same command for NVDA that would work for
me too.


Thanks,


Grumpy Dave








Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Onwardbob
 

Hi Mike, insert/n fallowed by con/v doesn't work. If after insert/n I open Preferences and arrow down to speech and then do con/v it just get kicked out...help!Dodgers and a game seven total woohoo

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Bob,

To get to the Speech settings / properties page quickly press, Insert / NVDA Key, Control + V.

Now tab many times to find the options for how you want the capital letters reported.

Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized


Hi, just how would I do this in NVDA?? Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Dave,
NVDA has two options for differentiating between lower and upper case.
You can either have the voice change pitch, or you can have a beep. Or
you can have both.
Once you've selected that option, you can simply arrow to the letter and
it will do its thing.
Not sure how it works in braille, if at all. But again, beeps should
work in that case as well.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 17/10/2020 08:40 pm, Dave wrote:
Hello,


I've looked through the Jaws documentation, and I must have just missed
it. But what is the Command to read if a letter under the Cursor is a
Capitalized letter?


I have found how to find out the size, and the font, but not whether or
not it is in Caps.


did call Jaws, but their Tech Support was unavailable due to a Network
issue on their end.


Or if you happen to know the same command for NVDA that would work for
me too.


Thanks,


Grumpy Dave








Re: email question

Pamela Dominguez
 

What do you mean board them to me?  Pam.
 

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question
 

I or someone could just board them to you with your current email address you use


On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 1:58 PM Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@...> wrote:
I’d hope that would work, but I find that whenever you contact your service provider, it just turns into a war about whose fault it is: the list says it’s your service provider, and your service provider blames it on the list.  I hope she has better luck.  Pam.
 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question
 
Ask the group owner or moderator to send you a bounce probe message, then once you get it, make sure to activate the link at the end.  It's worth a shot.

If that doesn't do it, I'd check with your e-mail service provider to see if they're blocking whatever the domain name groups.google.com.  This would be very odd, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

--

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Re: Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Mike B
 


Hi Bob,
 
To get to the Speech settings / properties page quickly press, Insert / NVDA Key, Control + V.
 
Now tab many times to find the options for how you want the capital letters reported.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi, just how would I do this in NVDA?? Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Needing a Command to read if a letter is Capitalized

Hi Dave,
NVDA has two options for differentiating between lower and upper case.
You can either have the voice change pitch, or you can have a beep. Or
you can have both.
Once you've selected that option, you can simply arrow to the letter and
it will do its thing.
Not sure how it works in braille, if at all. But again, beeps should
work in that case as well.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 17/10/2020 08:40 pm, Dave wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> I've looked through the Jaws documentation, and I must have just missed
> it.  But what is the Command to read if a letter under the Cursor is a
> Capitalized letter?
>
>
> I have found how to find out the size, and the font, but not whether or
> not it is in Caps.
>
>
> did call Jaws, but their Tech Support was unavailable due to a Network
> issue on their end.
>
>
> Or if you happen to know the same command for NVDA that would work for
> me too.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Grumpy Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>










Re: ram and SSD not detected by new laptop

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi Again,

Removed SSD, and each ram stick one by one,. Still the same issue. One interesting issue is that even if I power cycle the laptop,  it will spin up fans randomly on its own sometimes. I held down the power button for 30 seconds a couple times to cut power in hopes it would solve the problem, burt it does not. Looks like a service call is in order. I sincerely hope   its not a dead machine and ends up costing me.

On 10/17/2020 9:08 AM, Norman wrote:
Is this type of behavior normal though? Shouldn't the system beep or
go  to bios if it has a bad ram stick?


It may not, it depends on the system. I used to have a computer where if i would plug in a particular usb drive it just would not boot.


I assume I am not able to insert the ram incorrectly?

Correct, ram only goes in one way. If you feel along the long edge one side will have a little slot close to the center. This slot has to aline with a notch on the ram socket.


The interesting thing is that  the ram  was detected normally as a
single stick. I hope kingston will send me a replacement if it is defective.


They should. Also, try plugging both sticks in but one at a time. Based on what you've said so far I think it'll power on with one in but not the other.



HTH.


On 10/17/2020 9:55 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi,

Is this type of behavior normal though? Shouldn't the system beep or go  to bios if it has a bad ram stick? I assume I am not able to insert the ram incorrectly? The interesting thing is that  the ram  was detected normally as a single stick. I hope kingston will send me a replacement if it is defective.

On 10/17/2020 8:47 AM, Norman wrote:
Hello.

Pull one of the ram sticks and power on. If you get the same result, swap them out and do it again. I'm suspicious you have a bad ram stick.

If it still doesn't power on properly pull the ssd and try again. I assume this computer came with a ram and memory config. It might be worth restoring it to that config and then swap out the hardware piece by piece, doing the power up test after each piece to see what's bad.


On 10/17/2020 9:41 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
An update. So I swapped out the ram sticks, and both firmly inserted. The SSD also fit snugly. However when I plugged in a flash drive to install windows, and powered on the pc,  the fans spun up at max settings for a while, then stopped. When they spun up again, the logo briefly appeared, however, after I powered up the computer again, now the system will not display anything on screen. The fans spin up, then spin down periodically until I turn it off. Does anyone know of a solution for this? None of the indicators on the computer light up.
On 10/17/2020 12:57 AM, enes sarıbaş via groups.io wrote:
Hi all,

So when purchasing a laptop I  opted to buy my own ram modules and SSD. However, as I was inserting the modules for the first time, I  spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out the correct direction to insert them. However, when I did insert one, it firmly clicked into place. The second one only inserted backside up in the same position. The clips  latched on and hold it, but it seems to buldge a bit, and the clips didn't audibly click. When inserting the SSD, the  SSD slot was covered by a piece of plastic wrap. I unscrewed the screw, inserted into the MDOC2 slot and screwed the screw back on. However, the SSd was loose, and the plastic came loose. My question is,  what did I do wrong exactly with the SSD? And is that plastic wrap needed? I inserted it again, and it seems to be ok,  but the dirve isn't detected by bios iether. And only one of the ram modules is detected. What can I do about this? Do I pull the clips apart and press downward to seat the memory module. I assume it was inserted correctly, as it isn't possible apparently to insert ram the wrong way.