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Re: turn off suggestions in google search?

Gene
 

How are you searching? Use the control k command, type the search, then press enter. Suggestions will be shown as you type, but they won't cause unwanted behaviors. When you press enter, the Google results web page will come up.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Cochise
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 6:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] turn off suggestions in google search?


Using latest Google Chrome and JAWS in Windows 10 , is there a way to turn off suggestions when searching Google? I searched Google and the suggestions that came up does not apply to current chrome or I could not find the setting that was suggested.


turn off suggestions in google search?

Loy
 

Using latest Google Chrome and JAWS  in Windows 10 , is there a way to turn off suggestions when searching Google?  I searched Google and the suggestions that came up does not apply to current chrome or I could not find the setting that was suggested.


Re: can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Gene
 

I wonder why. From the conversation, it sounds as though the machine may be much older. It would be a good idea to see if it is new enough to run Windows 10 well before you do a reset.

Someone might be able to tell you how to assess the machine. I can tell you how to find some technical information but I don't know enough technically to evaluate some of it.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?


hen I tried to install it.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Did it say that in general or when you tried to run a specific program or
programs?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?


That’s interesting, because I have heard people on lists say they used it.
Maybe in an earlier version of windows ten? Pam.

From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 12:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Window eyes will not isntall on my windows 10 computer. I tried and it
said I needed to try another screen reader program.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

And he could try window eyes. Some people still use it in windows ten.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 5:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Switching to JAWS shouldn't cause a significant difference in speed. of
course, as a test, he could compare the speed using NVDA or Narrator.
Knowing how old the machine is may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 4:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Gene,
I already asked Keith if the PC started slowing down after the upgrade
rather some months later or maybe a year later, but I didn't see any answer
other than he wasn't for sure because he started using JAWS at the same
time, and he came from Window Eyes, or I think that is what he said. He
also said he has had Windows 10 on his PC for 2 or 3 years, and that is all
I know in which isn't very much! Smile!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

The first question to ask, now that we know that Windows was upgraded, not
installed as a new clean copy, is, did the computer run slowly immediately
after the upgrade or did it become slow later. It would have been good if I
had asked that. If the answer is that the computer ran slowly since the
upgrade, I think the upgrade is by far the likely possibility. If the
answer is that the computer ran well for awhile, then slowed down, I would
look for other causes.

A lot of the causes you posit, may be causes, but they are unlikely, or
without more information, I would consider unlikely. For example, defrag
doesn't slow a computer down enough to account for the slowness complained
of.

If the computer isn't a bottom of the line budget machine, and not a high
end more or less gaming performance machine, it is likely to have 8GB of
RAM. That is generally what is placed in machines aimed at the majority of
computer users.

While your message is useful in that it may cause us to get more information
about the machine and discuss other possibilities, at this point, without
more information, I think the upgrade is by far a more likely cause.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Hi Gene,
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with what you are saying here. There
are several different reasons why Keith's PC could be running slow. Does he
have enough Ram, What kind of processor is on his PC, how old is the PC, are
there to many programs-apps running in the background, is there too many
apps opened at the same time, does the PC have too much Bloatware, has he
deleted any apps-Software he doesn't need or want, has he ever performed a
Defrag, if so, when was that, is Windows 10 defrag feature automatically
turned on, does he know when or if the PC is defragging, does this slowness
happen when the PC is plugged in, are the batteries weak on his PC, is the
PC overheating, how often does he restart the PC, what version of JAWS is he
using, is the version of JAWS compatible with Windows 10, is there any
malware on the PC, has he checked the power plan settings, is Cortana turned
on, has he ever used the Disk Clean-up, so as you can see there are
definitely several different reasons why the PC could be slow. As far as
doing a reset, because his PC came with Windows 8, it will just go right
back to Windows 8 if he does a reset, for the simple fact, reset is a
wonderful feature, but it does revert right back to factory settings, in
which he would end up with Windows 8. Keith wouldn't even be able to use
JAWS during the process. I don't know if he wants that. Like I said the
Reset feature in Windows 10 is a wonderful feature, and I'm sure the PC will
run much faster, but then again, that gets rid of all the old Bloatware, and
downloads new Bloatware, so in due time, the PC will start slowing down
again. I'm sure there must be some way to download Windows 10 without so
much Bloatware, but I'm just not for sure, as I'm also learning Windows 10
as I go along. My personal opinion is do some maintenance and see how the
PC is running. I don't even know if Keith is willing to go through all
that, or if he has some sighted assistance to help him with all that.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 11:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

I doubt that such considerations are causing the slowness. As far as a
reset is concerned, if you do the reset or whatever it is called from within
Windowsw 10, you will get a clean copy of Windows 10. It doesn't matter
what the previous operating system was. If you did the restore to factory
state, which isn't a Wihndows 10 reset, then you would be back to Windows 8
but that's a completely different procedure and it isn't accessible. You
aren't even booted into Windows when you do the factory restore.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?



Hi Keith,

I’m sorry for my late reply, but I’ve been extremely busy. I wouldn’t
perform any reset, refresh, and definitely not a factory reset. The reason
I say this is because your PC came with Windows 8. Although, I would
definitely check the PC to see what apps are running in the background, what
apps are starting on boot up, how many apps are running at the same time,
before doing anything to the PC. You could also check how much disk space
you have on your PC. You could also check to be for sure you are getting
all the necessary updates, as well as drivers, you could also check and
delete any apps you might not need or want, in which this could also improve
performance on your PC, in which I think that would make a huge difference.
Having said all this, I’m thinking you are going to have to perform a defrag
on your PC, providing your PC doesn’t have a SSD, and if so, I wouldn’t do a
defrag. I know MS has machines set to defrag I think once a month, and this
is set as default. Although, some times that isn’t enough, but then again,
MS doesn’t know what you will be doing with your PC either, so sometimes we
have to defrag more than just once a month, but then again, it really all
depends on what you are doing with your PC. Matter of fact, I checked my
Windows 7 to see why it is running much faster than my new Windows 10, and I
apparently set my Windows 7 to defrag once a week, and that is because I do
quite a bit with my Windows 7. I checked my Windows 10, and sure enough, MS
has it set as the default to defrag once a month, so I will be changing that
as well, as deleting some gremlins that came along with Windows 10. Smile!
So you have to also take in to consideration what you are doing with your
PC, and only you know that. I noticed you said you are using JAWS as your
screen reader, so what version of JAWS are you using? I don’t know how but
for some reason, I didn’t increase the speech rate on JAWS when I installed
him on Windows 10, so I thought oh my goodness this Windows 10 is just to
slow, so it finally dawned on me to increase JAWS speech rate, and my Laptop
seems to be running faster now! LOL! Stupidity on my part! So as you can
see, you do have several different options in order to improve performance
on your PC, but it all depends on how much time and effort you might want
to put in to it. I definitely think it is well worth putting time and
effort in to it, but that is up to you. You could also call ms if you want
to, and explain to them the problems you are having, and see what they will
say. MS can also log in to your PC, and chances are they can tell what the
problem is, and tell you what to do about it, or they can do it for you. If
you are interested in calling them, I can give you their phone number
providing you are in the US, so just let me know. Keith don’t give up,
because like I said you do have several different options here.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







No clue. I did not get jaws until they bought window eyes/gwmicro and I
installed jaws on the windows 10 computer. the computer came with windows 8
and I knew that I would be updating it to windows 10 and also knew that
window eyes (at it's last version) did not work on windows 10 OS.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 8:16 AM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

Did the Laptop start slowing down right after your cousin installed Windows
10, or was it sometime later, like maybe some months or maybe a year later?
I ask these questions because the more information you can provide to us,
the more we can pinpoint the problem. As, I know this can be quite
annoying, having a slow PC!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had the laptop with windows 10 on it for 2 to 3 years. It originally
came with windows 8 and my cousin ran the free upgrade to windows 10 (took
about 8 hours for the download and installation so I left it with him and he
got it back a couple of days later.



It's an HP laptop.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:10 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Keith,

How long have you had Windows 10? Do you have a Desktop or Laptop? I really
don’t think JAWS can slow down a PC though. Although, JAWS can be a little
flaky sometimes, but I just don’t think we can hold JAWS responsible for
this one! Smile! There has to be something else that is slowing down your
PC. I’m hopeing when I finally remove the bloatware from my Windows Laptop,
it will pick up some spead! Oh what I would give to have Windows XP again,
as I loved that XP. I know the days of Windows XP is long gone!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had a computer guy take a look at it and he said that besides some HP
proprietary software required to run the actual computer , I don't have any
bloat ware running on my system. he is not familiar with screen readers but
he said that jaws might be the cause of the slow down. And yes, I to am
trying to learn windows 10 and also jaws as I am a former window eyes user.
I still run a laptop with xp and window eyes and it is a heck of a lot
faster than my "new" laptop with jaws and win 10 on it. I don't do any
emailing or shopping on it, but I like the smoothness and the response and
speed of the window eyes and xp experience on the older computer.







Shrug. Needless to say, a lot of the internet and what not is cut off from
me because of the xp machine not being able to load most websites but hey, I
prefer getting things typed out on my xp wordpad rather than typing a line
of text on the win 10 comptuer and then having to wait for either jaws or
win 10 to catch up and actually speak the line I just typed.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:49 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

I’m not very familiar with Windows 10, but I’m learning! LOL! As far as
your pc running that slow, I would definitely check to see what apps might
be running in the background. Slow computers are often caused by too many
programs running simultaneously, taking up processing power and reducing the
PC's performance. That’s just my personal opinion though. I don’t know if
you are running a Desktop or Laptop like I am or not, but even though, I’ve
had my new Laptop barely 3 weeks, and I haven’t worked on it much this past
week, my Laptop appears to be much slower than my old Windows 7, and I’ve
had Windows 7 since 2012. Although, I’m sure my slowness of my new Laptop
is caused by a lot of bloatware that came with Windows 10 as well as the
updates, I know I need to get rid of, or at least I hope that’s all it is!
Smile! As far as using the Reset option, from my understanding, the reset
feature is a repair tool in Windows 10. You can use that, and you can
choose what you want to keep, and after the repair, that will reinstall a
fresh copy of Windows 10. I hope this helps a little, as I just can’t stand
a sluggish pc, I would rather throw it out the Window! Smile!





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







does this resetting reinstall windows completely, (aka download a new copy
of windows from the Microsoft servers and install it on your system? I
upgraded from windows 8 to windows 10 when MS was offering the free update
and my system is is as slow as heck. I have the proper amount of ram and
cpu speed on my laptop to handle windows 10 and jaws, but the computer is
very "laggy" and simple things like opening a folder can take up to 2
minutes to complete and allow access to the files in the folder. opening
programs is the same way, even functions taht are part of windows are slow
to open and respond.











thanks



3



Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:05 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Jim,

I’m sorry you’re still having this problem, as this can be quite
frustorating! Jim, if we had an idea is to what MS has already done on your
PC, we could at least alimanate some suggestions. I could say you could use
the reset feature, in which you would have the option to save your files or
remove them, and a fresh Windows would download, but then again, some of
your files could be causing you from downloading, so we don’t know if that
would help. I’m not really too familiar with Windows Ten, but I’m learning!
From my understanding, if you reset your PC and keep files,

This reset option will reinstall Windows 10 and keeps your personal files,
such as photos, music, videos or personal files. However, it will remove
apps and drivers you installed, and also removes the changes you made to the
settings. I think using the reset option, it can take maybe two or three
hours, if you decide to keep your files during the reset process. I also
think third-party software, system file corruption, system settings changes,
or malware should be fixed by resetting your PC though. I hope at least
this gives you something to think about, if MS hasn’t already done this.





Janet









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?





Hi all, my computer won’t update, and hasn’t in months. Microsoft has tried
to fix the problem and they say they can’t fix the problem. So what if I
reset this computer to factory settings, would it eliminate problems like
this? I of course would have to store the programs I have now, but that can
be done. Anyway, I need your thoughts. I am running windows ten and jaws 18,
because I can’t install 2019, or 2020. Jim

































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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From the NFBNet Mailing List: Blind adults needed for research on how access technology is used to read graphs, images, and other visualizations online

 

I am referring to tactile graphs on paper. I believe they do make technology now that will play a sound and the sound pitch will increase as the graphs goes up.

Ashley

On Feb 9, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:


Yes, please tell me what you know about tactile graph reading.  Are you referring to paper drawings, or do you use a Braille display for technology and online visualization?

Thanks,


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On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Ashley Breger via groups.io <ashbreger@...> wrote:

Hello, I am familiar with using tactile graphics. If you want to email me back privately I would be happy to explain how they are used.

Ashley

On Feb 8, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:



Hi,


I got this from the below email list, and I have a question about reading graphics.  I'd like to participate as a totally blind screen reader speech/Braille user, but am not familiar with how one can read graphics.  What do I need to learn with Narrator or NVDA?


Thanks,




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] From the NFBNet Mailing List: Blind adults needed for research on how access technology is used to read graphs, images, and other visualizations online
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 02:13:17 +0000
From: David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Reply-To: tech-vi@groups.io
To: tech-vi@groups.io <tech-vi@groups.io>


 

From: NFBNet-Members-List <nfbnet-members-list-bounces@...> On Behalf Of Blake, Lou Ann via NFBNet-Members-List

 

The below research participant solicitation is being provided for informational purposes only. The National Federation of the Blind has no involvement in this research, but we believe that it may contribute to our research mission.

 

Opportunity to participate in accessibility research at UW Madison

Our research group at UW Madison is studying how people use assistive technologies to read images, graphs, and visualizations online. We are looking for participants to participate in a study to help us with our work!

Participants must be:

• At least 18 years old
• Legally blind

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We look forward to meeting with you and learning from your experiences!

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University of Wisconsin-Madison

 

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Director of Research Programs, Blindness Initiatives

200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230

(410) 659-9314, extension 2221 | lblake@...

 

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Re: can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Keith S
 


hen I tried to install it.
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Did it say that in general or when you tried to run a specific program or
programs?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?


That’s interesting, because I have heard people on lists say they used it.
Maybe in an earlier version of windows ten?  Pam.

From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 12:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Window eyes will not isntall on my  windows 10 computer.  I tried and it
said I needed to try another screen reader program.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

And he could try window eyes.  Some people still use it in windows ten.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 5:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Switching to JAWS shouldn't cause a significant difference in speed.  of
course, as a test, he could compare the speed using NVDA or Narrator.
Knowing how old the machine is may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 4:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Gene,
I already asked Keith if the PC started slowing down after the upgrade
rather some months later or maybe a year later, but I didn't see any answer
other than he wasn't for sure because he started using JAWS at the same
time, and he came from Window Eyes, or I think that is what he said.  He
also said he has had Windows 10 on his PC for 2 or 3 years, and that is all
I know in which isn't very much!  Smile!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

The first question to ask, now that we know that Windows was upgraded, not
installed as a new clean copy, is, did the computer run slowly immediately
after the upgrade or did it become slow later.  It would have been good if I
had asked that.  If the answer is that the computer ran slowly since the
upgrade, I think the upgrade is by far the likely possibility.  If the
answer is that the computer ran well for awhile, then slowed down, I would
look for other causes.

A lot of the causes you posit, may be causes, but they are unlikely, or
without more information, I would consider unlikely.  For example, defrag
doesn't slow a computer down enough to account for the slowness complained
of.

If the computer isn't a bottom of the line budget machine, and not a high
end more or less gaming performance machine, it is likely to have 8GB of
RAM.  That is generally what is placed in machines aimed at the majority of
computer users.

While your message is useful in that it may cause us to get more information
about the machine and discuss other possibilities, at this point, without
more information, I think the upgrade is by far a more likely cause.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Hi Gene,
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with what you are saying here.  There
are several different reasons why Keith's PC could be running slow.  Does he
have enough Ram, What kind of processor is on his PC, how old is the PC, are
there to many programs-apps running in the background, is there too many
apps opened at the same time, does the PC have too much Bloatware, has he
deleted any apps-Software he doesn't need or want,  has he ever performed a
Defrag, if so, when was that, is Windows 10 defrag feature automatically
turned on, does he know when or if the PC is defragging, does this slowness
happen when the PC is plugged in, are the batteries weak on his PC, is the
PC overheating, how often does he restart the PC, what version of JAWS is he
using, is the version of JAWS compatible with Windows 10, is there any
malware on the PC, has he checked the power plan settings, is Cortana turned
on, has he ever used the Disk Clean-up,   so as you can see there are
definitely several different reasons why the PC could be slow.  As far as
doing a reset, because his PC came with Windows 8, it will just go right
back to Windows 8 if he does a reset, for the simple fact, reset is a
wonderful feature, but it does revert right back to factory settings, in
which he would end up with Windows 8.  Keith wouldn't even be able to use
JAWS during the process.  I don't know if he wants that.  Like I said the
Reset feature in Windows 10 is a wonderful feature, and I'm sure the PC will
run much faster, but then again, that gets rid of all the old Bloatware, and
downloads new Bloatware, so in due time, the PC will start slowing down
again.  I'm sure there must be some way to download Windows 10 without so
much Bloatware, but I'm just not for sure, as I'm also learning Windows 10
as I go along.  My personal opinion is do some maintenance and see how the
PC is running.  I don't even know if Keith is willing to go through all
that, or if he has some sighted assistance to help him with all that.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 11:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

I doubt that such considerations are causing the slowness.  As far as a
reset is concerned, if you do the reset or whatever it is called from within
Windowsw 10, you will get a clean copy of Windows 10.  It doesn't matter
what the previous operating system was.  If you did the restore to factory
state, which isn't a Wihndows 10 reset, then you would be back to Windows 8
but that's a completely different procedure and it isn't accessible.  You
aren't even booted into Windows when you do the factory restore.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?



Hi Keith,

I’m sorry for my late reply, but I’ve been extremely busy.  I wouldn’t
perform any reset, refresh, and definitely not a factory reset.  The reason
I say this is because your PC came with Windows 8.  Although, I would
definitely check the PC to see what apps are running in the background, what
apps are starting on boot up, how many apps are running at the same time,
before doing anything to the PC.  You could also check how much disk space
you have on your PC.  You could also check to be for sure you are getting
all the necessary updates, as well as drivers, you could also check and
delete any apps you might not need or want, in which this could also improve
performance on your PC, in which I think that would make a huge difference.
Having said all this, I’m thinking you are going to have to perform a defrag
on your PC, providing your PC doesn’t have a SSD, and if so, I wouldn’t do a
defrag.  I know MS has machines set to defrag I think once a month, and this
is set as default.  Although, some times that isn’t enough, but then again,
MS doesn’t know what you will be doing with your PC either, so sometimes we
have to defrag more than just once a month, but then again, it really all
depends on what you are doing with your PC.  Matter of fact, I checked my
Windows 7 to see why it is running much faster than my new Windows 10, and I
apparently set my Windows 7 to defrag once a week, and that is because I do
quite a bit with my Windows 7.  I checked my Windows 10, and sure enough, MS
has it set as the default to defrag once a month, so I will be changing that
as well, as deleting some gremlins that came along with Windows 10. Smile!
So you have to also take in to consideration what you are doing with your
PC, and only you know that.  I noticed you said you are using JAWS as your
screen reader, so what version of JAWS are you using?  I don’t know how but
for some reason, I didn’t increase the speech rate on JAWS when I installed
him on Windows 10, so I thought oh my goodness this Windows 10 is just to
slow, so it finally dawned on me to increase JAWS speech rate, and my Laptop
seems to be running faster now!  LOL!  Stupidity on my part!  So as you can
see, you do have several different options in order to improve performance
on your PC, but it all depends on how much time and  effort you might want
to put in to it.  I definitely think it is well worth putting time and
effort in to it, but that is up to you.  You could also call ms if you want
to, and explain to them the problems you are having, and see what they will
say.  MS can also log in to your PC, and chances are they can tell what the
problem is, and tell you what to do about it, or they can do it for you.  If
you are interested  in calling them, I can give you their phone number
providing you are in the US, so just let me know.  Keith don’t give up,
because like I said you do have several different options here.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







No clue. I did not get jaws until they bought window eyes/gwmicro and I
installed jaws on the windows 10 computer.  the computer came with windows 8
and I knew that I would be updating it to windows 10 and also knew that
window eyes (at it's last version) did not work on windows 10  OS.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 8:16 AM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

Did the Laptop start slowing down right after your cousin installed Windows
10, or was it sometime later, like maybe some months or maybe a year later?
I ask these questions because the more information you can provide to us,
the more we can pinpoint the problem.  As, I know this can be quite
annoying, having a slow PC!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had the laptop with windows 10 on it for 2 to 3 years.  It originally
came with   windows 8 and my cousin ran the free upgrade to windows 10 (took
about 8 hours for the download and installation so I left it with him and he
got it back a couple  of days later.



It's an HP laptop.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:10 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Keith,

How long have you had Windows 10? Do you have a Desktop or Laptop? I really
don’t think JAWS can slow down a PC though.  Although, JAWS can be a little
flaky sometimes, but I just don’t think we can hold JAWS responsible for
this one!  Smile!  There has to be something else that is slowing down your
PC. I’m hopeing when I finally remove the bloatware from my Windows Laptop,
it will pick up some spead!  Oh what I would give to have Windows XP again,
as I loved that XP.  I know the days of Windows XP is long gone!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had a computer guy take a look at it and he said that besides some HP
proprietary software required to run the actual computer , I don't have any
bloat ware running on my system.  he is not familiar with screen readers but
he said that jaws might  be the cause of the slow down. And yes, I to am
trying to learn windows 10 and also jaws as I am a former window eyes  user.
I still run a laptop with xp and window eyes and it is a heck of a lot
faster than my "new" laptop with jaws and win 10 on it.   I don't do any
emailing or shopping on it, but I like the smoothness and the response and
speed of the window eyes and xp experience on the older computer.







Shrug.  Needless to say, a lot of the internet and what not is cut off from
me because of the xp machine not being able to load most websites but hey, I
prefer getting things typed out on my xp wordpad rather than typing a line
of text on the win 10 comptuer and then having to wait  for either jaws or
win 10 to catch up and actually speak the line I just typed.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:49 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

I’m not very familiar with Windows 10, but I’m learning!  LOL!  As far as
your pc running that slow, I would definitely check to see what apps might
be running in the background.  Slow computers are often caused by too many
programs running simultaneously, taking up processing power and reducing the
PC's performance.  That’s just my personal opinion though.  I don’t know if
you are running a Desktop or Laptop like I am or not, but even though, I’ve
had my new Laptop barely  3 weeks, and I haven’t worked on it much this past
week, my Laptop appears to be much slower than my old Windows 7, and I’ve
had Windows 7 since 2012.  Although, I’m sure my slowness of my new Laptop
is caused by a lot of bloatware that came with Windows 10 as well as the
updates, I know I need to get rid of, or at least I hope that’s all it is!
Smile!  As far as using the Reset option, from my understanding, the reset
feature is a repair tool in Windows 10.  You can use that, and you can
choose what you want to keep, and after the repair, that will reinstall a
fresh copy of Windows 10.  I hope this helps a little, as I just can’t stand
a sluggish pc, I would rather throw it out the Window!  Smile!





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







does this resetting reinstall windows completely, (aka download a new copy
of windows from the Microsoft servers and install it on your system?  I
upgraded from windows 8 to windows 10 when MS was offering the free update
and my system is is as slow as heck.  I have the proper amount of ram and
cpu speed on my laptop to handle windows 10 and jaws, but the computer is
very "laggy" and simple things like opening a folder can take up to 2
minutes to complete and allow access to the files in the folder.  opening
programs is the same way, even functions taht are part of windows are slow
to open and respond.











thanks



3



Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:05 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Jim,

I’m sorry you’re still having this problem, as this can be quite
frustorating!  Jim, if we had an idea is to what MS has already done on your
PC, we could at least alimanate some suggestions.  I could say you could use
the reset feature, in which you would have the option to save your files or
remove them, and a fresh Windows would download, but then again, some of
your files could be causing you from downloading, so we don’t know if that
would help. I’m not really too familiar with Windows Ten, but I’m learning!
From my understanding, if you reset your PC and keep files,

This reset option will reinstall Windows 10 and keeps your personal files,
such as photos, music, videos or personal files. However, it will remove
apps and drivers you installed, and also removes the changes you made to the
settings.   I think using the reset option, it can take maybe two or three
hours, if you decide to keep your files during the reset process.  I also
think third-party software, system file corruption, system settings changes,
or malware should be fixed by resetting your PC though.  I hope at least
this gives you something to think about, if MS hasn’t already done this.





Janet









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?





Hi all, my computer won’t update, and hasn’t in months. Microsoft has tried
to fix the problem and they say they can’t fix the problem. So what if I
reset this computer to factory settings, would it eliminate problems like
this? I of course would have to store the programs I have now, but that can
be done. Anyway, I need your thoughts. I am running windows ten and jaws 18,
because I can’t install 2019, or 2020. Jim

































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Re: can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Keith S
 


Well, maybe it was 3 years ago.  My wife got it from her "bonus program" from the casino she worked at.  They had a warehouse of computers to choose from and the computer in fact, did have windows 8 on it.
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Cochise
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

If his computer came with Windows 8 as stated below, I doubt that the computer is just 2 years old. A 2 year old computer would not have come with Windows 8 installed on it.Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

It ran slowly immediately after the upgrade, and after I installed jaws.  The comptuer is 2 years old.
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

The first question to ask, now that we know that Windows was upgraded, not
installed as a new clean copy, is, did the computer run slowly immediately
after the upgrade or did it become slow later.  It would have been good if I
had asked that.  If the answer is that the computer ran slowly since the
upgrade, I think the upgrade is by far the likely possibility.  If the
answer is that the computer ran well for awhile, then slowed down, I would
look for other causes.

A lot of the causes you posit, may be causes, but they are unlikely, or
without more information, I would consider unlikely.  For example, defrag
doesn't slow a computer down enough to account for the slowness complained
of.

If the computer isn't a bottom of the line budget machine, and not a high
end more or less gaming performance machine, it is likely to have 8GB of
RAM.  That is generally what is placed in machines aimed at the majority of
computer users.

While your message is useful in that it may cause us to get more information
about the machine and discuss other possibilities, at this point, without
more information, I think the upgrade is by far a more likely cause.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Hi Gene,
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with what you are saying here.  There
are several different reasons why Keith's PC could be running slow.  Does he
have enough Ram, What kind of processor is on his PC, how old is the PC, are
there to many programs-apps running in the background, is there too many
apps opened at the same time, does the PC have too much Bloatware, has he
deleted any apps-Software he doesn't need or want,  has he ever performed a
Defrag, if so, when was that, is Windows 10 defrag feature automatically
turned on, does he know when or if the PC is defragging, does this slowness
happen when the PC is plugged in, are the batteries weak on his PC, is the
PC overheating, how often does he restart the PC, what version of JAWS is he
using, is the version of JAWS compatible with Windows 10, is there any
malware on the PC, has he checked the power plan settings, is Cortana turned
on, has he ever used the Disk Clean-up,   so as you can see there are
definitely several different reasons why the PC could be slow.  As far as
doing a reset, because his PC came with Windows 8, it will just go right
back to Windows 8 if he does a reset, for the simple fact, reset is a
wonderful feature, but it does revert right back to factory settings, in
which he would end up with Windows 8.  Keith wouldn't even be able to use
JAWS during the process.  I don't know if he wants that.  Like I said the
Reset feature in Windows 10 is a wonderful feature, and I'm sure the PC will
run much faster, but then again, that gets rid of all the old Bloatware, and
downloads new Bloatware, so in due time, the PC will start slowing down
again.  I'm sure there must be some way to download Windows 10 without so
much Bloatware, but I'm just not for sure, as I'm also learning Windows 10
as I go along.  My personal opinion is do some maintenance and see how the
PC is running.  I don't even know if Keith is willing to go through all
that, or if he has some sighted assistance to help him with all that.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 11:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

I doubt that such considerations are causing the slowness.  As far as a
reset is concerned, if you do the reset or whatever it is called from within
Windowsw 10, you will get a clean copy of Windows 10.  It doesn't matter
what the previous operating system was.  If you did the restore to factory
state, which isn't a Wihndows 10 reset, then you would be back to Windows 8
but that's a completely different procedure and it isn't accessible.  You
aren't even booted into Windows when you do the factory restore.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?



Hi Keith,

I’m sorry for my late reply, but I’ve been extremely busy.  I wouldn’t
perform any reset, refresh, and definitely not a factory reset.  The reason
I say this is because your PC came with Windows 8.  Although, I would
definitely check the PC to see what apps are running in the background, what
apps are starting on boot up, how many apps are running at the same time,
before doing anything to the PC.  You could also check how much disk space
you have on your PC.  You could also check to be for sure you are getting
all the necessary updates, as well as drivers, you could also check and
delete any apps you might not need or want, in which this could also improve
performance on your PC, in which I think that would make a huge difference.
Having said all this, I’m thinking you are going to have to perform a defrag
on your PC, providing your PC doesn’t have a SSD, and if so, I wouldn’t do a
defrag.  I know MS has machines set to defrag I think once a month, and this
is set as default.  Although, some times that isn’t enough, but then again,
MS doesn’t know what you will be doing with your PC either, so sometimes we
have to defrag more than just once a month, but then again, it really all
depends on what you are doing with your PC.  Matter of fact, I checked my
Windows 7 to see why it is running much faster than my new Windows 10, and I
apparently set my Windows 7 to defrag once a week, and that is because I do
quite a bit with my Windows 7.  I checked my Windows 10, and sure enough, MS
has it set as the default to defrag once a month, so I will be changing that
as well, as deleting some gremlins that came along with Windows 10. Smile!
So you have to also take in to consideration what you are doing with your
PC, and only you know that.  I noticed you said you are using JAWS as your
screen reader, so what version of JAWS are you using?  I don’t know how but
for some reason, I didn’t increase the speech rate on JAWS when I installed
him on Windows 10, so I thought oh my goodness this Windows 10 is just to
slow, so it finally dawned on me to increase JAWS speech rate, and my Laptop
seems to be running faster now!  LOL!  Stupidity on my part!  So as you can
see, you do have several different options in order to improve performance
on your PC, but it all depends on how much time and  effort you might want
to put in to it.  I definitely think it is well worth putting time and
effort in to it, but that is up to you.  You could also call ms if you want
to, and explain to them the problems you are having, and see what they will
say.  MS can also log in to your PC, and chances are they can tell what the
problem is, and tell you what to do about it, or they can do it for you.  If
you are interested  in calling them, I can give you their phone number
providing you are in the US, so just let me know.  Keith don’t give up,
because like I said you do have several different options here.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







No clue. I did not get jaws until they bought window eyes/gwmicro and I
installed jaws on the windows 10 computer.  the computer came with windows 8
and I knew that I would be updating it to windows 10 and also knew that
window eyes (at it's last version) did not work on windows 10  OS.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 8:16 AM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

Did the Laptop start slowing down right after your cousin installed Windows
10, or was it sometime later, like maybe some months or maybe a year later?
I ask these questions because the more information you can provide to us,
the more we can pinpoint the problem.  As, I know this can be quite
annoying, having a slow PC!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had the laptop with windows 10 on it for 2 to 3 years.  It originally
came with   windows 8 and my cousin ran the free upgrade to windows 10 (took
about 8 hours for the download and installation so I left it with him and he
got it back a couple  of days later.



It's an HP laptop.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:10 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Keith,

How long have you had Windows 10? Do you have a Desktop or Laptop? I really
don’t think JAWS can slow down a PC though.  Although, JAWS can be a little
flaky sometimes, but I just don’t think we can hold JAWS responsible for
this one!  Smile!  There has to be something else that is slowing down your
PC. I’m hopeing when I finally remove the bloatware from my Windows Laptop,
it will pick up some spead!  Oh what I would give to have Windows XP again,
as I loved that XP.  I know the days of Windows XP is long gone!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had a computer guy take a look at it and he said that besides some HP
proprietary software required to run the actual computer , I don't have any
bloat ware running on my system.  he is not familiar with screen readers but
he said that jaws might  be the cause of the slow down. And yes, I to am
trying to learn windows 10 and also jaws as I am a former window eyes  user.
I still run a laptop with xp and window eyes and it is a heck of a lot
faster than my "new" laptop with jaws and win 10 on it.   I don't do any
emailing or shopping on it, but I like the smoothness and the response and
speed of the window eyes and xp experience on the older computer.







Shrug.  Needless to say, a lot of the internet and what not is cut off from
me because of the xp machine not being able to load most websites but hey, I
prefer getting things typed out on my xp wordpad rather than typing a line
of text on the win 10 comptuer and then having to wait  for either jaws or
win 10 to catch up and actually speak the line I just typed.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:49 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

I’m not very familiar with Windows 10, but I’m learning!  LOL!  As far as
your pc running that slow, I would definitely check to see what apps might
be running in the background.  Slow computers are often caused by too many
programs running simultaneously, taking up processing power and reducing the
PC's performance.  That’s just my personal opinion though.  I don’t know if
you are running a Desktop or Laptop like I am or not, but even though, I’ve
had my new Laptop barely  3 weeks, and I haven’t worked on it much this past
week, my Laptop appears to be much slower than my old Windows 7, and I’ve
had Windows 7 since 2012.  Although, I’m sure my slowness of my new Laptop
is caused by a lot of bloatware that came with Windows 10 as well as the
updates, I know I need to get rid of, or at least I hope that’s all it is!
Smile!  As far as using the Reset option, from my understanding, the reset
feature is a repair tool in Windows 10.  You can use that, and you can
choose what you want to keep, and after the repair, that will reinstall a
fresh copy of Windows 10.  I hope this helps a little, as I just can’t stand
a sluggish pc, I would rather throw it out the Window!  Smile!





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







does this resetting reinstall windows completely, (aka download a new copy
of windows from the Microsoft servers and install it on your system?  I
upgraded from windows 8 to windows 10 when MS was offering the free update
and my system is is as slow as heck.  I have the proper amount of ram and
cpu speed on my laptop to handle windows 10 and jaws, but the computer is
very "laggy" and simple things like opening a folder can take up to 2
minutes to complete and allow access to the files in the folder.  opening
programs is the same way, even functions taht are part of windows are slow
to open and respond.











thanks



3



Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:05 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Jim,

I’m sorry you’re still having this problem, as this can be quite
frustorating!  Jim, if we had an idea is to what MS has already done on your
PC, we could at least alimanate some suggestions.  I could say you could use
the reset feature, in which you would have the option to save your files or
remove them, and a fresh Windows would download, but then again, some of
your files could be causing you from downloading, so we don’t know if that
would help. I’m not really too familiar with Windows Ten, but I’m learning!
From my understanding, if you reset your PC and keep files,

This reset option will reinstall Windows 10 and keeps your personal files,
such as photos, music, videos or personal files. However, it will remove
apps and drivers you installed, and also removes the changes you made to the
settings.   I think using the reset option, it can take maybe two or three
hours, if you decide to keep your files during the reset process.  I also
think third-party software, system file corruption, system settings changes,
or malware should be fixed by resetting your PC though.  I hope at least
this gives you something to think about, if MS hasn’t already done this.





Janet









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?





Hi all, my computer won’t update, and hasn’t in months. Microsoft has tried
to fix the problem and they say they can’t fix the problem. So what if I
reset this computer to factory settings, would it eliminate problems like
this? I of course would have to store the programs I have now, but that can
be done. Anyway, I need your thoughts. I am running windows ten and jaws 18,
because I can’t install 2019, or 2020. Jim






















Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From the NFBNet Mailing List: Blind adults needed for research on how access technology is used to read graphs, images, and other visualizations online

Sharon Hooley
 

Yes, please tell me what you know about tactile graph reading.  Are you referring to paper drawings, or do you use a Braille display for technology and online visualization?

Thanks,


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On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Ashley Breger via groups.io <ashbreger@...> wrote:

Hello, I am familiar with using tactile graphics. If you want to email me back privately I would be happy to explain how they are used.

Ashley

On Feb 8, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:



Hi,


I got this from the below email list, and I have a question about reading graphics.  I'd like to participate as a totally blind screen reader speech/Braille user, but am not familiar with how one can read graphics.  What do I need to learn with Narrator or NVDA?


Thanks,




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] From the NFBNet Mailing List: Blind adults needed for research on how access technology is used to read graphs, images, and other visualizations online
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 02:13:17 +0000
From: David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Reply-To: tech-vi@groups.io
To: tech-vi@groups.io <tech-vi@groups.io>


 

From: NFBNet-Members-List <nfbnet-members-list-bounces@...> On Behalf Of Blake, Lou Ann via NFBNet-Members-List

 

The below research participant solicitation is being provided for informational purposes only. The National Federation of the Blind has no involvement in this research, but we believe that it may contribute to our research mission.

 

Opportunity to participate in accessibility research at UW Madison

Our research group at UW Madison is studying how people use assistive technologies to read images, graphs, and visualizations online. We are looking for participants to participate in a study to help us with our work!

Participants must be:

• At least 18 years old
• Legally blind

Participants will be given graphs, and asked to think aloud while they are using the technologies to inform the study team about their behaviors and thoughts, such as what assistive technologies they are using, what information can they perceive from the graphs, what challenges they face. Participants will be compensated a $20 gift card for each hour of a study session.

If you are interested, please fill out the survey: or please contact us at yeaseul.kim@... (Yea-Seul Kim).

We look forward to meeting with you and learning from your experiences!

Yea-Seul Kim, Yuhang Zhao
Assistant professor, Computer Sciences
University of Wisconsin-Madison

 

Lou Ann Blake, J.D.

Director of Research Programs, Blindness Initiatives

200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230

(410) 659-9314, extension 2221 | lblake@...

 

National Federation of the Blind

 

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The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.

 

 


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Monte Single
 

Hi List,

 

Below is a link to a folder on my p cloud drive.

It contains 2 siles, in mp3 format,  on working with the bookshelves on the victor stream 2nd  gen.

These files were made by Gerry Chevalier of the Canadian Council of the Blind.

The files were posted in oct. of last year.

 

The CCB web page is at;

 

https://ccbnational.net/

 

Here is the link for the folder;

 

 

https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZjCChXZoPJCafr6pxSaGdemhEyFkkaxX6IX

 

 


Re: can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Loy
 

I have window Eyes 9.5.4 on all three of my Windows 10 computers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?


Did it say that in general or when you tried to run a specific program or
programs?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?


That’s interesting, because I have heard people on lists say they used it.
Maybe in an earlier version of windows ten? Pam.

From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 12:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Window eyes will not isntall on my windows 10 computer. I tried and it
said I needed to try another screen reader program.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

And he could try window eyes. Some people still use it in windows ten.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 5:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Switching to JAWS shouldn't cause a significant difference in speed. of
course, as a test, he could compare the speed using NVDA or Narrator.
Knowing how old the machine is may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 4:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Gene,
I already asked Keith if the PC started slowing down after the upgrade
rather some months later or maybe a year later, but I didn't see any answer
other than he wasn't for sure because he started using JAWS at the same
time, and he came from Window Eyes, or I think that is what he said. He
also said he has had Windows 10 on his PC for 2 or 3 years, and that is all
I know in which isn't very much! Smile!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

The first question to ask, now that we know that Windows was upgraded, not
installed as a new clean copy, is, did the computer run slowly immediately
after the upgrade or did it become slow later. It would have been good if I
had asked that. If the answer is that the computer ran slowly since the
upgrade, I think the upgrade is by far the likely possibility. If the
answer is that the computer ran well for awhile, then slowed down, I would
look for other causes.

A lot of the causes you posit, may be causes, but they are unlikely, or
without more information, I would consider unlikely. For example, defrag
doesn't slow a computer down enough to account for the slowness complained
of.

If the computer isn't a bottom of the line budget machine, and not a high
end more or less gaming performance machine, it is likely to have 8GB of
RAM. That is generally what is placed in machines aimed at the majority of
computer users.

While your message is useful in that it may cause us to get more information
about the machine and discuss other possibilities, at this point, without
more information, I think the upgrade is by far a more likely cause.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Hi Gene,
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with what you are saying here. There
are several different reasons why Keith's PC could be running slow. Does he
have enough Ram, What kind of processor is on his PC, how old is the PC, are
there to many programs-apps running in the background, is there too many
apps opened at the same time, does the PC have too much Bloatware, has he
deleted any apps-Software he doesn't need or want, has he ever performed a
Defrag, if so, when was that, is Windows 10 defrag feature automatically
turned on, does he know when or if the PC is defragging, does this slowness
happen when the PC is plugged in, are the batteries weak on his PC, is the
PC overheating, how often does he restart the PC, what version of JAWS is he
using, is the version of JAWS compatible with Windows 10, is there any
malware on the PC, has he checked the power plan settings, is Cortana turned
on, has he ever used the Disk Clean-up, so as you can see there are
definitely several different reasons why the PC could be slow. As far as
doing a reset, because his PC came with Windows 8, it will just go right
back to Windows 8 if he does a reset, for the simple fact, reset is a
wonderful feature, but it does revert right back to factory settings, in
which he would end up with Windows 8. Keith wouldn't even be able to use
JAWS during the process. I don't know if he wants that. Like I said the
Reset feature in Windows 10 is a wonderful feature, and I'm sure the PC will
run much faster, but then again, that gets rid of all the old Bloatware, and
downloads new Bloatware, so in due time, the PC will start slowing down
again. I'm sure there must be some way to download Windows 10 without so
much Bloatware, but I'm just not for sure, as I'm also learning Windows 10
as I go along. My personal opinion is do some maintenance and see how the
PC is running. I don't even know if Keith is willing to go through all
that, or if he has some sighted assistance to help him with all that.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 11:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

I doubt that such considerations are causing the slowness. As far as a
reset is concerned, if you do the reset or whatever it is called from within
Windowsw 10, you will get a clean copy of Windows 10. It doesn't matter
what the previous operating system was. If you did the restore to factory
state, which isn't a Wihndows 10 reset, then you would be back to Windows 8
but that's a completely different procedure and it isn't accessible. You
aren't even booted into Windows when you do the factory restore.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?



Hi Keith,

I’m sorry for my late reply, but I’ve been extremely busy. I wouldn’t
perform any reset, refresh, and definitely not a factory reset. The reason
I say this is because your PC came with Windows 8. Although, I would
definitely check the PC to see what apps are running in the background, what
apps are starting on boot up, how many apps are running at the same time,
before doing anything to the PC. You could also check how much disk space
you have on your PC. You could also check to be for sure you are getting
all the necessary updates, as well as drivers, you could also check and
delete any apps you might not need or want, in which this could also improve
performance on your PC, in which I think that would make a huge difference.
Having said all this, I’m thinking you are going to have to perform a defrag
on your PC, providing your PC doesn’t have a SSD, and if so, I wouldn’t do a
defrag. I know MS has machines set to defrag I think once a month, and this
is set as default. Although, some times that isn’t enough, but then again,
MS doesn’t know what you will be doing with your PC either, so sometimes we
have to defrag more than just once a month, but then again, it really all
depends on what you are doing with your PC. Matter of fact, I checked my
Windows 7 to see why it is running much faster than my new Windows 10, and I
apparently set my Windows 7 to defrag once a week, and that is because I do
quite a bit with my Windows 7. I checked my Windows 10, and sure enough, MS
has it set as the default to defrag once a month, so I will be changing that
as well, as deleting some gremlins that came along with Windows 10. Smile!
So you have to also take in to consideration what you are doing with your
PC, and only you know that. I noticed you said you are using JAWS as your
screen reader, so what version of JAWS are you using? I don’t know how but
for some reason, I didn’t increase the speech rate on JAWS when I installed
him on Windows 10, so I thought oh my goodness this Windows 10 is just to
slow, so it finally dawned on me to increase JAWS speech rate, and my Laptop
seems to be running faster now! LOL! Stupidity on my part! So as you can
see, you do have several different options in order to improve performance
on your PC, but it all depends on how much time and effort you might want
to put in to it. I definitely think it is well worth putting time and
effort in to it, but that is up to you. You could also call ms if you want
to, and explain to them the problems you are having, and see what they will
say. MS can also log in to your PC, and chances are they can tell what the
problem is, and tell you what to do about it, or they can do it for you. If
you are interested in calling them, I can give you their phone number
providing you are in the US, so just let me know. Keith don’t give up,
because like I said you do have several different options here.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







No clue. I did not get jaws until they bought window eyes/gwmicro and I
installed jaws on the windows 10 computer. the computer came with windows 8
and I knew that I would be updating it to windows 10 and also knew that
window eyes (at it's last version) did not work on windows 10 OS.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 8:16 AM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

Did the Laptop start slowing down right after your cousin installed Windows
10, or was it sometime later, like maybe some months or maybe a year later?
I ask these questions because the more information you can provide to us,
the more we can pinpoint the problem. As, I know this can be quite
annoying, having a slow PC!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had the laptop with windows 10 on it for 2 to 3 years. It originally
came with windows 8 and my cousin ran the free upgrade to windows 10 (took
about 8 hours for the download and installation so I left it with him and he
got it back a couple of days later.



It's an HP laptop.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:10 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Keith,

How long have you had Windows 10? Do you have a Desktop or Laptop? I really
don’t think JAWS can slow down a PC though. Although, JAWS can be a little
flaky sometimes, but I just don’t think we can hold JAWS responsible for
this one! Smile! There has to be something else that is slowing down your
PC. I’m hopeing when I finally remove the bloatware from my Windows Laptop,
it will pick up some spead! Oh what I would give to have Windows XP again,
as I loved that XP. I know the days of Windows XP is long gone!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had a computer guy take a look at it and he said that besides some HP
proprietary software required to run the actual computer , I don't have any
bloat ware running on my system. he is not familiar with screen readers but
he said that jaws might be the cause of the slow down. And yes, I to am
trying to learn windows 10 and also jaws as I am a former window eyes user.
I still run a laptop with xp and window eyes and it is a heck of a lot
faster than my "new" laptop with jaws and win 10 on it. I don't do any
emailing or shopping on it, but I like the smoothness and the response and
speed of the window eyes and xp experience on the older computer.







Shrug. Needless to say, a lot of the internet and what not is cut off from
me because of the xp machine not being able to load most websites but hey, I
prefer getting things typed out on my xp wordpad rather than typing a line
of text on the win 10 comptuer and then having to wait for either jaws or
win 10 to catch up and actually speak the line I just typed.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:49 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

I’m not very familiar with Windows 10, but I’m learning! LOL! As far as
your pc running that slow, I would definitely check to see what apps might
be running in the background. Slow computers are often caused by too many
programs running simultaneously, taking up processing power and reducing the
PC's performance. That’s just my personal opinion though. I don’t know if
you are running a Desktop or Laptop like I am or not, but even though, I’ve
had my new Laptop barely 3 weeks, and I haven’t worked on it much this past
week, my Laptop appears to be much slower than my old Windows 7, and I’ve
had Windows 7 since 2012. Although, I’m sure my slowness of my new Laptop
is caused by a lot of bloatware that came with Windows 10 as well as the
updates, I know I need to get rid of, or at least I hope that’s all it is!
Smile! As far as using the Reset option, from my understanding, the reset
feature is a repair tool in Windows 10. You can use that, and you can
choose what you want to keep, and after the repair, that will reinstall a
fresh copy of Windows 10. I hope this helps a little, as I just can’t stand
a sluggish pc, I would rather throw it out the Window! Smile!





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







does this resetting reinstall windows completely, (aka download a new copy
of windows from the Microsoft servers and install it on your system? I
upgraded from windows 8 to windows 10 when MS was offering the free update
and my system is is as slow as heck. I have the proper amount of ram and
cpu speed on my laptop to handle windows 10 and jaws, but the computer is
very "laggy" and simple things like opening a folder can take up to 2
minutes to complete and allow access to the files in the folder. opening
programs is the same way, even functions taht are part of windows are slow
to open and respond.











thanks



3



Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:05 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Jim,

I’m sorry you’re still having this problem, as this can be quite
frustorating! Jim, if we had an idea is to what MS has already done on your
PC, we could at least alimanate some suggestions. I could say you could use
the reset feature, in which you would have the option to save your files or
remove them, and a fresh Windows would download, but then again, some of
your files could be causing you from downloading, so we don’t know if that
would help. I’m not really too familiar with Windows Ten, but I’m learning!
From my understanding, if you reset your PC and keep files,

This reset option will reinstall Windows 10 and keeps your personal files,
such as photos, music, videos or personal files. However, it will remove
apps and drivers you installed, and also removes the changes you made to the
settings. I think using the reset option, it can take maybe two or three
hours, if you decide to keep your files during the reset process. I also
think third-party software, system file corruption, system settings changes,
or malware should be fixed by resetting your PC though. I hope at least
this gives you something to think about, if MS hasn’t already done this.





Janet









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?





Hi all, my computer won’t update, and hasn’t in months. Microsoft has tried
to fix the problem and they say they can’t fix the problem. So what if I
reset this computer to factory settings, would it eliminate problems like
this? I of course would have to store the programs I have now, but that can
be done. Anyway, I need your thoughts. I am running windows ten and jaws 18,
because I can’t install 2019, or 2020. Jim

































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Re: can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Gene
 

Did it say that in general or when you tried to run a specific program or programs?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?


That’s interesting, because I have heard people on lists say they used it. Maybe in an earlier version of windows ten? Pam.

From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 12:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Window eyes will not isntall on my windows 10 computer. I tried and it said I needed to try another screen reader program.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

And he could try window eyes. Some people still use it in windows ten.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 5:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Switching to JAWS shouldn't cause a significant difference in speed. of
course, as a test, he could compare the speed using NVDA or Narrator.
Knowing how old the machine is may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 4:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Gene,
I already asked Keith if the PC started slowing down after the upgrade
rather some months later or maybe a year later, but I didn't see any answer
other than he wasn't for sure because he started using JAWS at the same
time, and he came from Window Eyes, or I think that is what he said. He
also said he has had Windows 10 on his PC for 2 or 3 years, and that is all
I know in which isn't very much! Smile!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

The first question to ask, now that we know that Windows was upgraded, not
installed as a new clean copy, is, did the computer run slowly immediately
after the upgrade or did it become slow later. It would have been good if I
had asked that. If the answer is that the computer ran slowly since the
upgrade, I think the upgrade is by far the likely possibility. If the
answer is that the computer ran well for awhile, then slowed down, I would
look for other causes.

A lot of the causes you posit, may be causes, but they are unlikely, or
without more information, I would consider unlikely. For example, defrag
doesn't slow a computer down enough to account for the slowness complained
of.

If the computer isn't a bottom of the line budget machine, and not a high
end more or less gaming performance machine, it is likely to have 8GB of
RAM. That is generally what is placed in machines aimed at the majority of
computer users.

While your message is useful in that it may cause us to get more information
about the machine and discuss other possibilities, at this point, without
more information, I think the upgrade is by far a more likely cause.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Hi Gene,
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with what you are saying here. There
are several different reasons why Keith's PC could be running slow. Does he
have enough Ram, What kind of processor is on his PC, how old is the PC, are
there to many programs-apps running in the background, is there too many
apps opened at the same time, does the PC have too much Bloatware, has he
deleted any apps-Software he doesn't need or want, has he ever performed a
Defrag, if so, when was that, is Windows 10 defrag feature automatically
turned on, does he know when or if the PC is defragging, does this slowness
happen when the PC is plugged in, are the batteries weak on his PC, is the
PC overheating, how often does he restart the PC, what version of JAWS is he
using, is the version of JAWS compatible with Windows 10, is there any
malware on the PC, has he checked the power plan settings, is Cortana turned
on, has he ever used the Disk Clean-up, so as you can see there are
definitely several different reasons why the PC could be slow. As far as
doing a reset, because his PC came with Windows 8, it will just go right
back to Windows 8 if he does a reset, for the simple fact, reset is a
wonderful feature, but it does revert right back to factory settings, in
which he would end up with Windows 8. Keith wouldn't even be able to use
JAWS during the process. I don't know if he wants that. Like I said the
Reset feature in Windows 10 is a wonderful feature, and I'm sure the PC will
run much faster, but then again, that gets rid of all the old Bloatware, and
downloads new Bloatware, so in due time, the PC will start slowing down
again. I'm sure there must be some way to download Windows 10 without so
much Bloatware, but I'm just not for sure, as I'm also learning Windows 10
as I go along. My personal opinion is do some maintenance and see how the
PC is running. I don't even know if Keith is willing to go through all
that, or if he has some sighted assistance to help him with all that.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 11:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

I doubt that such considerations are causing the slowness. As far as a
reset is concerned, if you do the reset or whatever it is called from within
Windowsw 10, you will get a clean copy of Windows 10. It doesn't matter
what the previous operating system was. If you did the restore to factory
state, which isn't a Wihndows 10 reset, then you would be back to Windows 8
but that's a completely different procedure and it isn't accessible. You
aren't even booted into Windows when you do the factory restore.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?



Hi Keith,

I’m sorry for my late reply, but I’ve been extremely busy. I wouldn’t
perform any reset, refresh, and definitely not a factory reset. The reason
I say this is because your PC came with Windows 8. Although, I would
definitely check the PC to see what apps are running in the background, what
apps are starting on boot up, how many apps are running at the same time,
before doing anything to the PC. You could also check how much disk space
you have on your PC. You could also check to be for sure you are getting
all the necessary updates, as well as drivers, you could also check and
delete any apps you might not need or want, in which this could also improve
performance on your PC, in which I think that would make a huge difference.
Having said all this, I’m thinking you are going to have to perform a defrag
on your PC, providing your PC doesn’t have a SSD, and if so, I wouldn’t do a
defrag. I know MS has machines set to defrag I think once a month, and this
is set as default. Although, some times that isn’t enough, but then again,
MS doesn’t know what you will be doing with your PC either, so sometimes we
have to defrag more than just once a month, but then again, it really all
depends on what you are doing with your PC. Matter of fact, I checked my
Windows 7 to see why it is running much faster than my new Windows 10, and I
apparently set my Windows 7 to defrag once a week, and that is because I do
quite a bit with my Windows 7. I checked my Windows 10, and sure enough, MS
has it set as the default to defrag once a month, so I will be changing that
as well, as deleting some gremlins that came along with Windows 10. Smile!
So you have to also take in to consideration what you are doing with your
PC, and only you know that. I noticed you said you are using JAWS as your
screen reader, so what version of JAWS are you using? I don’t know how but
for some reason, I didn’t increase the speech rate on JAWS when I installed
him on Windows 10, so I thought oh my goodness this Windows 10 is just to
slow, so it finally dawned on me to increase JAWS speech rate, and my Laptop
seems to be running faster now! LOL! Stupidity on my part! So as you can
see, you do have several different options in order to improve performance
on your PC, but it all depends on how much time and effort you might want
to put in to it. I definitely think it is well worth putting time and
effort in to it, but that is up to you. You could also call ms if you want
to, and explain to them the problems you are having, and see what they will
say. MS can also log in to your PC, and chances are they can tell what the
problem is, and tell you what to do about it, or they can do it for you. If
you are interested in calling them, I can give you their phone number
providing you are in the US, so just let me know. Keith don’t give up,
because like I said you do have several different options here.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







No clue. I did not get jaws until they bought window eyes/gwmicro and I
installed jaws on the windows 10 computer. the computer came with windows 8
and I knew that I would be updating it to windows 10 and also knew that
window eyes (at it's last version) did not work on windows 10 OS.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 8:16 AM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

Did the Laptop start slowing down right after your cousin installed Windows
10, or was it sometime later, like maybe some months or maybe a year later?
I ask these questions because the more information you can provide to us,
the more we can pinpoint the problem. As, I know this can be quite
annoying, having a slow PC!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had the laptop with windows 10 on it for 2 to 3 years. It originally
came with windows 8 and my cousin ran the free upgrade to windows 10 (took
about 8 hours for the download and installation so I left it with him and he
got it back a couple of days later.



It's an HP laptop.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:10 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Keith,

How long have you had Windows 10? Do you have a Desktop or Laptop? I really
don’t think JAWS can slow down a PC though. Although, JAWS can be a little
flaky sometimes, but I just don’t think we can hold JAWS responsible for
this one! Smile! There has to be something else that is slowing down your
PC. I’m hopeing when I finally remove the bloatware from my Windows Laptop,
it will pick up some spead! Oh what I would give to have Windows XP again,
as I loved that XP. I know the days of Windows XP is long gone!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had a computer guy take a look at it and he said that besides some HP
proprietary software required to run the actual computer , I don't have any
bloat ware running on my system. he is not familiar with screen readers but
he said that jaws might be the cause of the slow down. And yes, I to am
trying to learn windows 10 and also jaws as I am a former window eyes user.
I still run a laptop with xp and window eyes and it is a heck of a lot
faster than my "new" laptop with jaws and win 10 on it. I don't do any
emailing or shopping on it, but I like the smoothness and the response and
speed of the window eyes and xp experience on the older computer.







Shrug. Needless to say, a lot of the internet and what not is cut off from
me because of the xp machine not being able to load most websites but hey, I
prefer getting things typed out on my xp wordpad rather than typing a line
of text on the win 10 comptuer and then having to wait for either jaws or
win 10 to catch up and actually speak the line I just typed.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:49 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

I’m not very familiar with Windows 10, but I’m learning! LOL! As far as
your pc running that slow, I would definitely check to see what apps might
be running in the background. Slow computers are often caused by too many
programs running simultaneously, taking up processing power and reducing the
PC's performance. That’s just my personal opinion though. I don’t know if
you are running a Desktop or Laptop like I am or not, but even though, I’ve
had my new Laptop barely 3 weeks, and I haven’t worked on it much this past
week, my Laptop appears to be much slower than my old Windows 7, and I’ve
had Windows 7 since 2012. Although, I’m sure my slowness of my new Laptop
is caused by a lot of bloatware that came with Windows 10 as well as the
updates, I know I need to get rid of, or at least I hope that’s all it is!
Smile! As far as using the Reset option, from my understanding, the reset
feature is a repair tool in Windows 10. You can use that, and you can
choose what you want to keep, and after the repair, that will reinstall a
fresh copy of Windows 10. I hope this helps a little, as I just can’t stand
a sluggish pc, I would rather throw it out the Window! Smile!





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







does this resetting reinstall windows completely, (aka download a new copy
of windows from the Microsoft servers and install it on your system? I
upgraded from windows 8 to windows 10 when MS was offering the free update
and my system is is as slow as heck. I have the proper amount of ram and
cpu speed on my laptop to handle windows 10 and jaws, but the computer is
very "laggy" and simple things like opening a folder can take up to 2
minutes to complete and allow access to the files in the folder. opening
programs is the same way, even functions taht are part of windows are slow
to open and respond.











thanks



3



Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:05 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Jim,

I’m sorry you’re still having this problem, as this can be quite
frustorating! Jim, if we had an idea is to what MS has already done on your
PC, we could at least alimanate some suggestions. I could say you could use
the reset feature, in which you would have the option to save your files or
remove them, and a fresh Windows would download, but then again, some of
your files could be causing you from downloading, so we don’t know if that
would help. I’m not really too familiar with Windows Ten, but I’m learning!
From my understanding, if you reset your PC and keep files,

This reset option will reinstall Windows 10 and keeps your personal files,
such as photos, music, videos or personal files. However, it will remove
apps and drivers you installed, and also removes the changes you made to the
settings. I think using the reset option, it can take maybe two or three
hours, if you decide to keep your files during the reset process. I also
think third-party software, system file corruption, system settings changes,
or malware should be fixed by resetting your PC though. I hope at least
this gives you something to think about, if MS hasn’t already done this.





Janet









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?





Hi all, my computer won’t update, and hasn’t in months. Microsoft has tried
to fix the problem and they say they can’t fix the problem. So what if I
reset this computer to factory settings, would it eliminate problems like
this? I of course would have to store the programs I have now, but that can
be done. Anyway, I need your thoughts. I am running windows ten and jaws 18,
because I can’t install 2019, or 2020. Jim

































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Re: Deleted Folder

Pamela Dominguez
 

Oh yeah! I'm glad he found your folder. But I'm with you; very good at making the mess, not fixing it. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 12:12 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleted Folder

Good news. Our computer guy found my missing folder and its files for me during our regular computer checkup. Yes, we have always had a backup on our system. Wouldn't be without it. Much more painless to have an expert tap his way to restoration though. My expertise is mostly in making the mess in the first place. Lol Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 3:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleted Folder

Running a restore point won't retrieve the folder. If system restore is running on your machine, you can use previous versions. I very seldom use it and I'm using Windows 7 so these instructions may not exactly match Windows 10. I'll tell you one way to find the folder.

Open computer. In the list of files and folders, find your hard drive.
Don't open the drive. Open properties with alt enter. Hold alt and press enter.
Shift tab once.
Right arrow until you get to previous versions.
Tab until you get to a list. It may be two times. Up or down arrow until you get to the earlier version you want. if you have made recent changes in the folder, find the latest version of the c drive. Press enter.

Move to and find the folder. Copy it to the clip board.
Now open your files and folders list as you usually do, leaving the previous version opened. paste the folder where you want it.

This is very important if it isn't being done. The fact that the folder was lost and that the person is asking about this indicates that the person is likely not backing up files and folders to an external hard drive. a service for doing this online, or in any other way. It is crucially important to have a backup. If you don't, you may well lose everything or be in a situation where you have to pay thousands of dollars to get information back, such as in a hard disk failure. In such cases, it may cost two thousand dollars, or roughly that to have someone retried the information from the drive.

Or you may lose access to everything in a ransom ware attack. Having a backup will not require you to deal with ransomware bandits to have your information. And its worth noting here that because of the possibility of ransomeware or other malware, a back up drive should not be connected to the computer while the computer is being used for things other than a backup.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 4:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleted Folder



Nope, it is not there. Tomorrow we have our regular checkup on our
computer. Is the restore to a certain time a possible answer?

I guess if he doesn’t know I’m busted because some important saved tips are
in that folder. Woe is me! Marilyn



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 1:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleted Folder







You can probably find it in the recycle bin on the desktop. Highlight the
recycle bin icon, press enter to open it, and scroll down until you land on
the deleted folder. Then press the context menu key and select restore to
restore the deleted folder to its original location.



Gerald







On 2/3/2021 3:46 PM, Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:



Hello list. I accidentally deleted my folder with several tips and tricks
for the computer in it. Any way to get it back?


















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Re: can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Pamela Dominguez
 

That’s interesting, because I have heard people on lists say they used it.  Maybe in an earlier version of windows ten?  Pam.
 

From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?
 
Window eyes will not isntall on my  windows 10 computer.  I tried and it said I needed to try another screen reader program.
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?
 
And he could try window eyes.  Some people still use it in windows ten.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 5:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Switching to JAWS shouldn't cause a significant difference in speed.  of
course, as a test, he could compare the speed using NVDA or Narrator.
Knowing how old the machine is may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 4:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Gene,
I already asked Keith if the PC started slowing down after the upgrade
rather some months later or maybe a year later, but I didn't see any answer
other than he wasn't for sure because he started using JAWS at the same
time, and he came from Window Eyes, or I think that is what he said.  He
also said he has had Windows 10 on his PC for 2 or 3 years, and that is all
I know in which isn't very much!  Smile!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

The first question to ask, now that we know that Windows was upgraded, not
installed as a new clean copy, is, did the computer run slowly immediately
after the upgrade or did it become slow later.  It would have been good if I
had asked that.  If the answer is that the computer ran slowly since the
upgrade, I think the upgrade is by far the likely possibility.  If the
answer is that the computer ran well for awhile, then slowed down, I would
look for other causes.

A lot of the causes you posit, may be causes, but they are unlikely, or
without more information, I would consider unlikely.  For example, defrag
doesn't slow a computer down enough to account for the slowness complained
of.

If the computer isn't a bottom of the line budget machine, and not a high
end more or less gaming performance machine, it is likely to have 8GB of
RAM.  That is generally what is placed in machines aimed at the majority of
computer users.

While your message is useful in that it may cause us to get more information
about the machine and discuss other possibilities, at this point, without
more information, I think the upgrade is by far a more likely cause.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Hi Gene,
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with what you are saying here.  There
are several different reasons why Keith's PC could be running slow.  Does he
have enough Ram, What kind of processor is on his PC, how old is the PC, are
there to many programs-apps running in the background, is there too many
apps opened at the same time, does the PC have too much Bloatware, has he
deleted any apps-Software he doesn't need or want,  has he ever performed a
Defrag, if so, when was that, is Windows 10 defrag feature automatically
turned on, does he know when or if the PC is defragging, does this slowness
happen when the PC is plugged in, are the batteries weak on his PC, is the
PC overheating, how often does he restart the PC, what version of JAWS is he
using, is the version of JAWS compatible with Windows 10, is there any
malware on the PC, has he checked the power plan settings, is Cortana turned
on, has he ever used the Disk Clean-up,   so as you can see there are
definitely several different reasons why the PC could be slow.  As far as
doing a reset, because his PC came with Windows 8, it will just go right
back to Windows 8 if he does a reset, for the simple fact, reset is a
wonderful feature, but it does revert right back to factory settings, in
which he would end up with Windows 8.  Keith wouldn't even be able to use
JAWS during the process.  I don't know if he wants that.  Like I said the
Reset feature in Windows 10 is a wonderful feature, and I'm sure the PC will
run much faster, but then again, that gets rid of all the old Bloatware, and
downloads new Bloatware, so in due time, the PC will start slowing down
again.  I'm sure there must be some way to download Windows 10 without so
much Bloatware, but I'm just not for sure, as I'm also learning Windows 10
as I go along.  My personal opinion is do some maintenance and see how the
PC is running.  I don't even know if Keith is willing to go through all
that, or if he has some sighted assistance to help him with all that.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 11:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

I doubt that such considerations are causing the slowness.  As far as a
reset is concerned, if you do the reset or whatever it is called from within
Windowsw 10, you will get a clean copy of Windows 10.  It doesn't matter
what the previous operating system was.  If you did the restore to factory
state, which isn't a Wihndows 10 reset, then you would be back to Windows 8
but that's a completely different procedure and it isn't accessible.  You
aren't even booted into Windows when you do the factory restore.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?



Hi Keith,

I’m sorry for my late reply, but I’ve been extremely busy.  I wouldn’t
perform any reset, refresh, and definitely not a factory reset.  The reason
I say this is because your PC came with Windows 8.  Although, I would
definitely check the PC to see what apps are running in the background, what
apps are starting on boot up, how many apps are running at the same time,
before doing anything to the PC.  You could also check how much disk space
you have on your PC.  You could also check to be for sure you are getting
all the necessary updates, as well as drivers, you could also check and
delete any apps you might not need or want, in which this could also improve
performance on your PC, in which I think that would make a huge difference.
Having said all this, I’m thinking you are going to have to perform a defrag
on your PC, providing your PC doesn’t have a SSD, and if so, I wouldn’t do a
defrag.  I know MS has machines set to defrag I think once a month, and this
is set as default.  Although, some times that isn’t enough, but then again,
MS doesn’t know what you will be doing with your PC either, so sometimes we
have to defrag more than just once a month, but then again, it really all
depends on what you are doing with your PC.  Matter of fact, I checked my
Windows 7 to see why it is running much faster than my new Windows 10, and I
apparently set my Windows 7 to defrag once a week, and that is because I do
quite a bit with my Windows 7.  I checked my Windows 10, and sure enough, MS
has it set as the default to defrag once a month, so I will be changing that
as well, as deleting some gremlins that came along with Windows 10. Smile!
So you have to also take in to consideration what you are doing with your
PC, and only you know that.  I noticed you said you are using JAWS as your
screen reader, so what version of JAWS are you using?  I don’t know how but
for some reason, I didn’t increase the speech rate on JAWS when I installed
him on Windows 10, so I thought oh my goodness this Windows 10 is just to
slow, so it finally dawned on me to increase JAWS speech rate, and my Laptop
seems to be running faster now!  LOL!  Stupidity on my part!  So as you can
see, you do have several different options in order to improve performance
on your PC, but it all depends on how much time and  effort you might want
to put in to it.  I definitely think it is well worth putting time and
effort in to it, but that is up to you.  You could also call ms if you want
to, and explain to them the problems you are having, and see what they will
say.  MS can also log in to your PC, and chances are they can tell what the
problem is, and tell you what to do about it, or they can do it for you.  If
you are interested  in calling them, I can give you their phone number
providing you are in the US, so just let me know.  Keith don’t give up,
because like I said you do have several different options here.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







No clue. I did not get jaws until they bought window eyes/gwmicro and I
installed jaws on the windows 10 computer.  the computer came with windows 8
and I knew that I would be updating it to windows 10 and also knew that
window eyes (at it's last version) did not work on windows 10  OS.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 8:16 AM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

Did the Laptop start slowing down right after your cousin installed Windows
10, or was it sometime later, like maybe some months or maybe a year later?
I ask these questions because the more information you can provide to us,
the more we can pinpoint the problem.  As, I know this can be quite
annoying, having a slow PC!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had the laptop with windows 10 on it for 2 to 3 years.  It originally
came with   windows 8 and my cousin ran the free upgrade to windows 10 (took
about 8 hours for the download and installation so I left it with him and he
got it back a couple  of days later.



It's an HP laptop.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:10 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Keith,

How long have you had Windows 10? Do you have a Desktop or Laptop? I really
don’t think JAWS can slow down a PC though.  Although, JAWS can be a little
flaky sometimes, but I just don’t think we can hold JAWS responsible for
this one!  Smile!  There has to be something else that is slowing down your
PC. I’m hopeing when I finally remove the bloatware from my Windows Laptop,
it will pick up some spead!  Oh what I would give to have Windows XP again,
as I loved that XP.  I know the days of Windows XP is long gone!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had a computer guy take a look at it and he said that besides some HP
proprietary software required to run the actual computer , I don't have any
bloat ware running on my system.  he is not familiar with screen readers but
he said that jaws might  be the cause of the slow down. And yes, I to am
trying to learn windows 10 and also jaws as I am a former window eyes  user.
I still run a laptop with xp and window eyes and it is a heck of a lot
faster than my "new" laptop with jaws and win 10 on it.   I don't do any
emailing or shopping on it, but I like the smoothness and the response and
speed of the window eyes and xp experience on the older computer.







Shrug.  Needless to say, a lot of the internet and what not is cut off from
me because of the xp machine not being able to load most websites but hey, I
prefer getting things typed out on my xp wordpad rather than typing a line
of text on the win 10 comptuer and then having to wait  for either jaws or
win 10 to catch up and actually speak the line I just typed.







Keith



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From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:49 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

I’m not very familiar with Windows 10, but I’m learning!  LOL!  As far as
your pc running that slow, I would definitely check to see what apps might
be running in the background.  Slow computers are often caused by too many
programs running simultaneously, taking up processing power and reducing the
PC's performance.  That’s just my personal opinion though.  I don’t know if
you are running a Desktop or Laptop like I am or not, but even though, I’ve
had my new Laptop barely  3 weeks, and I haven’t worked on it much this past
week, my Laptop appears to be much slower than my old Windows 7, and I’ve
had Windows 7 since 2012.  Although, I’m sure my slowness of my new Laptop
is caused by a lot of bloatware that came with Windows 10 as well as the
updates, I know I need to get rid of, or at least I hope that’s all it is!
Smile!  As far as using the Reset option, from my understanding, the reset
feature is a repair tool in Windows 10.  You can use that, and you can
choose what you want to keep, and after the repair, that will reinstall a
fresh copy of Windows 10.  I hope this helps a little, as I just can’t stand
a sluggish pc, I would rather throw it out the Window!  Smile!





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







does this resetting reinstall windows completely, (aka download a new copy
of windows from the Microsoft servers and install it on your system?  I
upgraded from windows 8 to windows 10 when MS was offering the free update
and my system is is as slow as heck.  I have the proper amount of ram and
cpu speed on my laptop to handle windows 10 and jaws, but the computer is
very "laggy" and simple things like opening a folder can take up to 2
minutes to complete and allow access to the files in the folder.  opening
programs is the same way, even functions taht are part of windows are slow
to open and respond.











thanks



3



Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:05 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Jim,

I’m sorry you’re still having this problem, as this can be quite
frustorating!  Jim, if we had an idea is to what MS has already done on your
PC, we could at least alimanate some suggestions.  I could say you could use
the reset feature, in which you would have the option to save your files or
remove them, and a fresh Windows would download, but then again, some of
your files could be causing you from downloading, so we don’t know if that
would help. I’m not really too familiar with Windows Ten, but I’m learning!
From my understanding, if you reset your PC and keep files,

This reset option will reinstall Windows 10 and keeps your personal files,
such as photos, music, videos or personal files. However, it will remove
apps and drivers you installed, and also removes the changes you made to the
settings.   I think using the reset option, it can take maybe two or three
hours, if you decide to keep your files during the reset process.  I also
think third-party software, system file corruption, system settings changes,
or malware should be fixed by resetting your PC though.  I hope at least
this gives you something to think about, if MS hasn’t already done this.





Janet









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?





Hi all, my computer won’t update, and hasn’t in months. Microsoft has tried
to fix the problem and they say they can’t fix the problem. So what if I
reset this computer to factory settings, would it eliminate problems like
this? I of course would have to store the programs I have now, but that can
be done. Anyway, I need your thoughts. I am running windows ten and jaws 18,
because I can’t install 2019, or 2020. Jim

































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Re: can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Loy
 


If his computer came with Windows 8 as stated below, I doubt that the computer is just 2 years old. A 2 year old computer would not have come with Windows 8 installed on it.Original Message -----

From: Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

It ran slowly immediately after the upgrade, and after I installed jaws.  The comptuer is 2 years old.
 
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

The first question to ask, now that we know that Windows was upgraded, not
installed as a new clean copy, is, did the computer run slowly immediately
after the upgrade or did it become slow later.  It would have been good if I
had asked that.  If the answer is that the computer ran slowly since the
upgrade, I think the upgrade is by far the likely possibility.  If the
answer is that the computer ran well for awhile, then slowed down, I would
look for other causes.

A lot of the causes you posit, may be causes, but they are unlikely, or
without more information, I would consider unlikely.  For example, defrag
doesn't slow a computer down enough to account for the slowness complained
of.

If the computer isn't a bottom of the line budget machine, and not a high
end more or less gaming performance machine, it is likely to have 8GB of
RAM.  That is generally what is placed in machines aimed at the majority of
computer users.

While your message is useful in that it may cause us to get more information
about the machine and discuss other possibilities, at this point, without
more information, I think the upgrade is by far a more likely cause.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Hi Gene,
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with what you are saying here.  There
are several different reasons why Keith's PC could be running slow.  Does he
have enough Ram, What kind of processor is on his PC, how old is the PC, are
there to many programs-apps running in the background, is there too many
apps opened at the same time, does the PC have too much Bloatware, has he
deleted any apps-Software he doesn't need or want,  has he ever performed a
Defrag, if so, when was that, is Windows 10 defrag feature automatically
turned on, does he know when or if the PC is defragging, does this slowness
happen when the PC is plugged in, are the batteries weak on his PC, is the
PC overheating, how often does he restart the PC, what version of JAWS is he
using, is the version of JAWS compatible with Windows 10, is there any
malware on the PC, has he checked the power plan settings, is Cortana turned
on, has he ever used the Disk Clean-up,   so as you can see there are
definitely several different reasons why the PC could be slow.  As far as
doing a reset, because his PC came with Windows 8, it will just go right
back to Windows 8 if he does a reset, for the simple fact, reset is a
wonderful feature, but it does revert right back to factory settings, in
which he would end up with Windows 8.  Keith wouldn't even be able to use
JAWS during the process.  I don't know if he wants that.  Like I said the
Reset feature in Windows 10 is a wonderful feature, and I'm sure the PC will
run much faster, but then again, that gets rid of all the old Bloatware, and
downloads new Bloatware, so in due time, the PC will start slowing down
again.  I'm sure there must be some way to download Windows 10 without so
much Bloatware, but I'm just not for sure, as I'm also learning Windows 10
as I go along.  My personal opinion is do some maintenance and see how the
PC is running.  I don't even know if Keith is willing to go through all
that, or if he has some sighted assistance to help him with all that.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 11:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

I doubt that such considerations are causing the slowness.  As far as a
reset is concerned, if you do the reset or whatever it is called from within
Windowsw 10, you will get a clean copy of Windows 10.  It doesn't matter
what the previous operating system was.  If you did the restore to factory
state, which isn't a Wihndows 10 reset, then you would be back to Windows 8
but that's a completely different procedure and it isn't accessible.  You
aren't even booted into Windows when you do the factory restore.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?



Hi Keith,

I’m sorry for my late reply, but I’ve been extremely busy.  I wouldn’t
perform any reset, refresh, and definitely not a factory reset.  The reason
I say this is because your PC came with Windows 8.  Although, I would
definitely check the PC to see what apps are running in the background, what
apps are starting on boot up, how many apps are running at the same time,
before doing anything to the PC.  You could also check how much disk space
you have on your PC.  You could also check to be for sure you are getting
all the necessary updates, as well as drivers, you could also check and
delete any apps you might not need or want, in which this could also improve
performance on your PC, in which I think that would make a huge difference.
Having said all this, I’m thinking you are going to have to perform a defrag
on your PC, providing your PC doesn’t have a SSD, and if so, I wouldn’t do a
defrag.  I know MS has machines set to defrag I think once a month, and this
is set as default.  Although, some times that isn’t enough, but then again,
MS doesn’t know what you will be doing with your PC either, so sometimes we
have to defrag more than just once a month, but then again, it really all
depends on what you are doing with your PC.  Matter of fact, I checked my
Windows 7 to see why it is running much faster than my new Windows 10, and I
apparently set my Windows 7 to defrag once a week, and that is because I do
quite a bit with my Windows 7.  I checked my Windows 10, and sure enough, MS
has it set as the default to defrag once a month, so I will be changing that
as well, as deleting some gremlins that came along with Windows 10. Smile!
So you have to also take in to consideration what you are doing with your
PC, and only you know that.  I noticed you said you are using JAWS as your
screen reader, so what version of JAWS are you using?  I don’t know how but
for some reason, I didn’t increase the speech rate on JAWS when I installed
him on Windows 10, so I thought oh my goodness this Windows 10 is just to
slow, so it finally dawned on me to increase JAWS speech rate, and my Laptop
seems to be running faster now!  LOL!  Stupidity on my part!  So as you can
see, you do have several different options in order to improve performance
on your PC, but it all depends on how much time and  effort you might want
to put in to it.  I definitely think it is well worth putting time and
effort in to it, but that is up to you.  You could also call ms if you want
to, and explain to them the problems you are having, and see what they will
say.  MS can also log in to your PC, and chances are they can tell what the
problem is, and tell you what to do about it, or they can do it for you.  If
you are interested  in calling them, I can give you their phone number
providing you are in the US, so just let me know.  Keith don’t give up,
because like I said you do have several different options here.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







No clue. I did not get jaws until they bought window eyes/gwmicro and I
installed jaws on the windows 10 computer.  the computer came with windows 8
and I knew that I would be updating it to windows 10 and also knew that
window eyes (at it's last version) did not work on windows 10  OS.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 8:16 AM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

Did the Laptop start slowing down right after your cousin installed Windows
10, or was it sometime later, like maybe some months or maybe a year later?
I ask these questions because the more information you can provide to us,
the more we can pinpoint the problem.  As, I know this can be quite
annoying, having a slow PC!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had the laptop with windows 10 on it for 2 to 3 years.  It originally
came with   windows 8 and my cousin ran the free upgrade to windows 10 (took
about 8 hours for the download and installation so I left it with him and he
got it back a couple  of days later.



It's an HP laptop.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:10 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Keith,

How long have you had Windows 10? Do you have a Desktop or Laptop? I really
don’t think JAWS can slow down a PC though.  Although, JAWS can be a little
flaky sometimes, but I just don’t think we can hold JAWS responsible for
this one!  Smile!  There has to be something else that is slowing down your
PC. I’m hopeing when I finally remove the bloatware from my Windows Laptop,
it will pick up some spead!  Oh what I would give to have Windows XP again,
as I loved that XP.  I know the days of Windows XP is long gone!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had a computer guy take a look at it and he said that besides some HP
proprietary software required to run the actual computer , I don't have any
bloat ware running on my system.  he is not familiar with screen readers but
he said that jaws might  be the cause of the slow down. And yes, I to am
trying to learn windows 10 and also jaws as I am a former window eyes  user.
I still run a laptop with xp and window eyes and it is a heck of a lot
faster than my "new" laptop with jaws and win 10 on it.   I don't do any
emailing or shopping on it, but I like the smoothness and the response and
speed of the window eyes and xp experience on the older computer.







Shrug.  Needless to say, a lot of the internet and what not is cut off from
me because of the xp machine not being able to load most websites but hey, I
prefer getting things typed out on my xp wordpad rather than typing a line
of text on the win 10 comptuer and then having to wait  for either jaws or
win 10 to catch up and actually speak the line I just typed.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:49 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

I’m not very familiar with Windows 10, but I’m learning!  LOL!  As far as
your pc running that slow, I would definitely check to see what apps might
be running in the background.  Slow computers are often caused by too many
programs running simultaneously, taking up processing power and reducing the
PC's performance.  That’s just my personal opinion though.  I don’t know if
you are running a Desktop or Laptop like I am or not, but even though, I’ve
had my new Laptop barely  3 weeks, and I haven’t worked on it much this past
week, my Laptop appears to be much slower than my old Windows 7, and I’ve
had Windows 7 since 2012.  Although, I’m sure my slowness of my new Laptop
is caused by a lot of bloatware that came with Windows 10 as well as the
updates, I know I need to get rid of, or at least I hope that’s all it is!
Smile!  As far as using the Reset option, from my understanding, the reset
feature is a repair tool in Windows 10.  You can use that, and you can
choose what you want to keep, and after the repair, that will reinstall a
fresh copy of Windows 10.  I hope this helps a little, as I just can’t stand
a sluggish pc, I would rather throw it out the Window!  Smile!





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







does this resetting reinstall windows completely, (aka download a new copy
of windows from the Microsoft servers and install it on your system?  I
upgraded from windows 8 to windows 10 when MS was offering the free update
and my system is is as slow as heck.  I have the proper amount of ram and
cpu speed on my laptop to handle windows 10 and jaws, but the computer is
very "laggy" and simple things like opening a folder can take up to 2
minutes to complete and allow access to the files in the folder.  opening
programs is the same way, even functions taht are part of windows are slow
to open and respond.











thanks



3



Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:05 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Jim,

I’m sorry you’re still having this problem, as this can be quite
frustorating!  Jim, if we had an idea is to what MS has already done on your
PC, we could at least alimanate some suggestions.  I could say you could use
the reset feature, in which you would have the option to save your files or
remove them, and a fresh Windows would download, but then again, some of
your files could be causing you from downloading, so we don’t know if that
would help. I’m not really too familiar with Windows Ten, but I’m learning!
From my understanding, if you reset your PC and keep files,

This reset option will reinstall Windows 10 and keeps your personal files,
such as photos, music, videos or personal files. However, it will remove
apps and drivers you installed, and also removes the changes you made to the
settings.   I think using the reset option, it can take maybe two or three
hours, if you decide to keep your files during the reset process.  I also
think third-party software, system file corruption, system settings changes,
or malware should be fixed by resetting your PC though.  I hope at least
this gives you something to think about, if MS hasn’t already done this.





Janet









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?





Hi all, my computer won’t update, and hasn’t in months. Microsoft has tried
to fix the problem and they say they can’t fix the problem. So what if I
reset this computer to factory settings, would it eliminate problems like
this? I of course would have to store the programs I have now, but that can
be done. Anyway, I need your thoughts. I am running windows ten and jaws 18,
because I can’t install 2019, or 2020. Jim






















Re: can a blind person set up a computer without sighted help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Loy
 


The information below about a reset in Windows  10 that has been upgraded from Windows 8 will not revert to Windows 8. It will do a reset of Windows 10 .You can choose to keep your data or remove everything. The person was probably thinking of a factory restore from a restore partition. Most newer computer does no longer come with this.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

Hi Gene,
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with what you are saying here.  There
are several different reasons why Keith's PC could be running slow.  Does he
have enough Ram, What kind of processor is on his PC, how old is the PC, are
there to many programs-apps running in the background, is there too many
apps opened at the same time, does the PC have too much Bloatware, has he
deleted any apps-Software he doesn't need or want,  has he ever performed a
Defrag, if so, when was that, is Windows 10 defrag feature automatically
turned on, does he know when or if the PC is defragging, does this slowness
happen when the PC is plugged in, are the batteries weak on his PC, is the
PC overheating, how often does he restart the PC, what version of JAWS is he
using, is the version of JAWS compatible with Windows 10, is there any
malware on the PC, has he checked the power plan settings, is Cortana turned
on, has he ever used the Disk Clean-up,   so as you can see there are
definitely several different reasons why the PC could be slow.  As far as
doing a reset, because his PC came with Windows 8, it will just go right
back to Windows 8 if he does a reset, for the simple fact, reset is a
wonderful feature, but it does revert right back to factory settings, in
which he would end up with Windows 8.  Keith wouldn't even be able to use
JAWS during the process.  I don't know if he wants that.  Like I said the
Reset feature in Windows 10 is a wonderful feature, and I'm sure the PC will
run much faster, but then again, that gets rid of all the old Bloatware, and
downloads new Bloatware, so in due time, the PC will start slowing down
again.  I'm sure there must be some way to download Windows 10 without so
much Bloatware, but I'm just not for sure, as I'm also learning Windows 10
as I go along.  My personal opinion is do some maintenance and see how the
PC is running.  I don't even know if Keith is willing to go through all
that, or if he has some sighted assistance to help him with all that.


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 11:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?

I doubt that such considerations are causing the slowness.  As far as a
reset is concerned, if you do the reset or whatever it is called from within
Windowsw 10, you will get a clean copy of Windows 10.  It doesn't matter
what the previous operating system was.  If you did the restore to factory
state, which isn't a Wihndows 10 reset, then you would be back to Windows 8
but that's a completely different procedure and it isn't accessible.  You
aren't even booted into Windows when you do the factory restore.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?



Hi Keith,

I’m sorry for my late reply, but I’ve been extremely busy.  I wouldn’t
perform any reset, refresh, and definitely not a factory reset.  The reason
I say this is because your PC came with Windows 8.  Although, I would
definitely check the PC to see what apps are running in the background, what
apps are starting on boot up, how many apps are running at the same time,
before doing anything to the PC.  You could also check how much disk space
you have on your PC.  You could also check to be for sure you are getting
all the necessary updates, as well as drivers, you could also check and
delete any apps you might not need or want, in which this could also improve
performance on your PC, in which I think that would make a huge difference.
Having said all this, I’m thinking you are going to have to perform a defrag
on your PC, providing your PC doesn’t have a SSD, and if so, I wouldn’t do a
defrag.  I know MS has machines set to defrag I think once a month, and this
is set as default.  Although, some times that isn’t enough, but then again,
MS doesn’t know what you will be doing with your PC either, so sometimes we
have to defrag more than just once a month, but then again, it really all
depends on what you are doing with your PC.  Matter of fact, I checked my
Windows 7 to see why it is running much faster than my new Windows 10, and I
apparently set my Windows 7 to defrag once a week, and that is because I do
quite a bit with my Windows 7.  I checked my Windows 10, and sure enough, MS
has it set as the default to defrag once a month, so I will be changing that
as well, as deleting some gremlins that came along with Windows 10. Smile!
So you have to also take in to consideration what you are doing with your
PC, and only you know that.  I noticed you said you are using JAWS as your
screen reader, so what version of JAWS are you using?  I don’t know how but
for some reason, I didn’t increase the speech rate on JAWS when I installed
him on Windows 10, so I thought oh my goodness this Windows 10 is just to
slow, so it finally dawned on me to increase JAWS speech rate, and my Laptop
seems to be running faster now!  LOL!  Stupidity on my part!  So as you can
see, you do have several different options in order to improve performance
on your PC, but it all depends on how much time and  effort you might want
to put in to it.  I definitely think it is well worth putting time and
effort in to it, but that is up to you.  You could also call ms if you want
to, and explain to them the problems you are having, and see what they will
say.  MS can also log in to your PC, and chances are they can tell what the
problem is, and tell you what to do about it, or they can do it for you.  If
you are interested  in calling them, I can give you their phone number
providing you are in the US, so just let me know.  Keith don’t give up,
because like I said you do have several different options here.



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







No clue. I did not get jaws until they bought window eyes/gwmicro and I
installed jaws on the windows 10 computer.  the computer came with windows 8
and I knew that I would be updating it to windows 10 and also knew that
window eyes (at it's last version) did not work on windows 10  OS.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 8:16 AM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

Did the Laptop start slowing down right after your cousin installed Windows
10, or was it sometime later, like maybe some months or maybe a year later?
I ask these questions because the more information you can provide to us,
the more we can pinpoint the problem.  As, I know this can be quite
annoying, having a slow PC!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 9:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had the laptop with windows 10 on it for 2 to 3 years.  It originally
came with   windows 8 and my cousin ran the free upgrade to windows 10 (took
about 8 hours for the download and installation so I left it with him and he
got it back a couple  of days later.



It's an HP laptop.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:10 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Keith,

How long have you had Windows 10? Do you have a Desktop or Laptop? I really
don’t think JAWS can slow down a PC though.  Although, JAWS can be a little
flaky sometimes, but I just don’t think we can hold JAWS responsible for
this one!  Smile!  There has to be something else that is slowing down your
PC. I’m hopeing when I finally remove the bloatware from my Windows Laptop,
it will pick up some spead!  Oh what I would give to have Windows XP again,
as I loved that XP.  I know the days of Windows XP is long gone!



Janet





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







I've had a computer guy take a look at it and he said that besides some HP
proprietary software required to run the actual computer , I don't have any
bloat ware running on my system.  he is not familiar with screen readers but
he said that jaws might  be the cause of the slow down. And yes, I to am
trying to learn windows 10 and also jaws as I am a former window eyes  user.
I still run a laptop with xp and window eyes and it is a heck of a lot
faster than my "new" laptop with jaws and win 10 on it.   I don't do any
emailing or shopping on it, but I like the smoothness and the response and
speed of the window eyes and xp experience on the older computer.







Shrug.  Needless to say, a lot of the internet and what not is cut off from
me because of the xp machine not being able to load most websites but hey, I
prefer getting things typed out on my xp wordpad rather than typing a line
of text on the win 10 comptuer and then having to wait  for either jaws or
win 10 to catch up and actually speak the line I just typed.







Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:49 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Keith,

I’m not very familiar with Windows 10, but I’m learning!  LOL!  As far as
your pc running that slow, I would definitely check to see what apps might
be running in the background.  Slow computers are often caused by too many
programs running simultaneously, taking up processing power and reducing the
PC's performance.  That’s just my personal opinion though.  I don’t know if
you are running a Desktop or Laptop like I am or not, but even though, I’ve
had my new Laptop barely  3 weeks, and I haven’t worked on it much this past
week, my Laptop appears to be much slower than my old Windows 7, and I’ve
had Windows 7 since 2012.  Although, I’m sure my slowness of my new Laptop
is caused by a lot of bloatware that came with Windows 10 as well as the
updates, I know I need to get rid of, or at least I hope that’s all it is!
Smile!  As far as using the Reset option, from my understanding, the reset
feature is a repair tool in Windows 10.  You can use that, and you can
choose what you want to keep, and after the repair, that will reinstall a
fresh copy of Windows 10.  I hope this helps a little, as I just can’t stand
a sluggish pc, I would rather throw it out the Window!  Smile!





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Keith S
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







does this resetting reinstall windows completely, (aka download a new copy
of windows from the Microsoft servers and install it on your system?  I
upgraded from windows 8 to windows 10 when MS was offering the free update
and my system is is as slow as heck.  I have the proper amount of ram and
cpu speed on my laptop to handle windows 10 and jaws, but the computer is
very "laggy" and simple things like opening a folder can take up to 2
minutes to complete and allow access to the files in the folder.  opening
programs is the same way, even functions taht are part of windows are slow
to open and respond.











thanks



3



Keith



----- Original Message -----



From: Janet



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:05 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?







Hi Jim,

I’m sorry you’re still having this problem, as this can be quite
frustorating!  Jim, if we had an idea is to what MS has already done on your
PC, we could at least alimanate some suggestions.  I could say you could use
the reset feature, in which you would have the option to save your files or
remove them, and a fresh Windows would download, but then again, some of
your files could be causing you from downloading, so we don’t know if that
would help. I’m not really too familiar with Windows Ten, but I’m learning!
From my understanding, if you reset your PC and keep files,

This reset option will reinstall Windows 10 and keeps your personal files,
such as photos, music, videos or personal files. However, it will remove
apps and drivers you installed, and also removes the changes you made to the
settings.   I think using the reset option, it can take maybe two or three
hours, if you decide to keep your files during the reset process.  I also
think third-party software, system file corruption, system settings changes,
or malware should be fixed by resetting your PC though.  I hope at least
this gives you something to think about, if MS hasn’t already done this.





Janet









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] can a blind person set up a computer without sighted
help?? and with the problems I am having, would it help?





Hi all, my computer won’t update, and hasn’t in months. Microsoft has tried
to fix the problem and they say they can’t fix the problem. So what if I
reset this computer to factory settings, would it eliminate problems like
this? I of course would have to store the programs I have now, but that can
be done. Anyway, I need your thoughts. I am running windows ten and jaws 18,
because I can’t install 2019, or 2020. Jim






















Re: Deleted Folder

Gene
 

If you try to run system restore and get a message that it is off, I'm not sure if it gives you the option to turn it on there or if you have to do it a different way. I'd have to check.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 1:06 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleted Folder

I don't know if the interface in Windows 10 is the same as Windows 7. In
Windows seven, if you type restore in the start menu search, you will find
it in the list of results. To restore files or folders, however, you use
previous versions, in the properties of the folder. I'm not sure if you can
use the properties of a specific folder or if you have to use the properties
of the drive.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Shackelford
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 1:02 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleted Folder

I tried to do a system restore once and seemed not to have any
results; Can't find where to turn it on.
Nance

--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


Re: Deleted Folder

Gene
 

I don't know if the interface in Windows 10 is the same as Windows 7. In Windows seven, if you type restore in the start menu search, you will find it in the list of results. To restore files or folders, however, you use previous versions, in the properties of the folder. I'm not sure if you can use the properties of a specific folder or if you have to use the properties of the drive.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Shackelford
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 1:02 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleted Folder

I tried to do a system restore once and seemed not to have any
results; Can't find where to turn it on.
Nance

--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


Re: Deleted Folder

Nancy Shackelford
 

I tried to do a system restore once and seemed not to have any
results; Can't find where to turn it on.
Nance

--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


Re: Deleted Folder

Gene
 

It wasn't in the recycle bin. I think, though I don't know whether this is the case, that the previous versions feature, available when System Restore is on and making backups, was used.

It is important to have system restore on. From what I've read and comments I've seen on lists, it appears that it is off by default in Windows 10. I consider having it be off by default to be near negligence in design.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Shackelford
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 12:16 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Deleted Folder

That's what we're talking about, Recycle Bin.
Nance

--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


Re: The oddest things appeared on our desktop the other day. Nothing I could tell but my husband saw these picture things and blamed me!! They were on the top of the screen and slightly fuzzed out. One was some apples, one had a couple of slices

Gene
 

It may have been wall paper.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 11:31 PM
To: TECHTALK
Subject: [TechTalk] The oddest things appeared on our desktop the other day. Nothing I could tell but my husband saw these picture things and blamed me!! They were on the top of the screen and slightly fuzzed out. One was some apples, one had a couple of slices of



The oddest things appeared on our desktop last week. Nothing that I ever noticed but he blamed me anyway! They were at the top of the screen and sort of fuzzed out. One was some apples, one was a couple of slices of bread and he didn’t catch the others but thought one might have been a car. We don’t do imogees or whatever those are called. And besides that he said they all had kind of noses on them. I’m not kidding. Our computer guy took them off when we had the computer in for service but Don didn’t remember what they were called. Just curious as to what in the world invaded our space.


Re: Deleted Folder

Nancy Shackelford
 

That's what we're talking about, Recycle Bin.
Nance

--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--

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