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Re: outlook express adapted for windows 10

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Thunderbird Download Page

A web search on the program name plus download almost always turns up the official download page as the first search result, though sometimes it's in the top five if other sites like ninite and similar support it, too.

I always advise going to the source when you can.
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Problem With Toshiba Microwave App

lynn white
 

I got the new Toshiba Microwave with Alexa. When I try to link my account with Alexa, first it will not take my MSmartLife app password. When I try to even go to reset the password, I get a message that Safari, Safari says that it is not a legitimate link. Any ideas?


Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Monte Single
 

Yes, I had a friend help me with a disk space problem using windirsstat.
It found where all the space was being used.
So, I do not know if it is good with screenreaders, but it sure worked for my situation.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blaster
Sent: November 4, 2020 9:14 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, A Space Hog

Another option you may consider is WinDirStat, downloadable from NiNite.com. This program is perfectly suited to do what you need.
When you launch the program your presented with a list of available drives on your pc to scan. Pressing enter on your C: drive will start the scan. The List box will fill up with all of the folders and files on the root directory of your C: drive, sorting them with the biggest ones on top by percentage of disk space used. For example, my "Users"
folder was on the top of the list as it was the largest one on my C:
drive. When you arrow to the right it expands the folder and presents a list of the folders and files in that root folder, again listing the largest ones on top. This program should zero in on your 80 gig offending disk hog very quickly.

HTH,
Blaster


On 11/4/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Quentin,

Thank you *very* much for "solving the mystery" I had not yet solved
with regard to using object navigation to activate that button. The
text report format, and the range of available formats in text, from
SpaceSniffer are definitely more screen reader user friendly than what
comes in PDF from TreeSize Free.

Although I have played with it some, object navigation still remains a
personal weak point in my NVDA world. I just don't seem to get the
relationships between objects in any clear way.

By the way, you may be able to explain this to me, why is it that NVDA
"gets trapped" in the report preview part of the ScreenSniffer report
generation process if you tab into it. Once I do that I cannot
extract myself no matter what I do. I have to either close that
window and start again or resort to sighted point and click to force my way out of that text box.
This is not something I've encountered before. I could be doing
something entirely wrong, but I have absolutely no idea what that might be.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

*Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they
rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and
on.*

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com






Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Blaster
 

Another option you may consider is WinDirStat, downloadable from
NiNite.com. This program is perfectly suited to do what you need.
When you launch the program your presented with a list of available
drives on your pc to scan. Pressing enter on your C: drive will start
the scan. The List box will fill up with all of the folders and files
on the root directory of your C: drive, sorting them with the biggest
ones on top by percentage of disk space used. For example, my "Users"
folder was on the top of the list as it was the largest one on my C:
drive. When you arrow to the right it expands the folder and presents
a list of the folders and files in that root folder, again listing the
largest ones on top. This program should zero in on your 80 gig
offending disk hog very quickly.

HTH,
Blaster

On 11/4/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Quentin,

Thank you *very* much for "solving the mystery" I had not yet solved with
regard to using object navigation to activate that button. The text report
format, and the range of available formats in text, from SpaceSniffer are
definitely more screen reader user friendly than what comes in PDF from
TreeSize Free.

Although I have played with it some, object navigation still remains a
personal weak point in my NVDA world. I just don't seem to get the
relationships between objects in any clear way.

By the way, you may be able to explain this to me, why is it that NVDA "gets
trapped" in the report preview part of the ScreenSniffer report generation
process if you tab into it. Once I do that I cannot extract myself no
matter what I do. I have to either close that window and start again or
resort to sighted point and click to force my way out of that text box.
This is not something I've encountered before. I could be doing something
entirely wrong, but I have absolutely no idea what that might be.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

*Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely
fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.*

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com






Re: outlook express adapted for windows 10

Gene
 

I don't know why you are having a problem. I would strongly recommend using Thunderbird portable. You can get it here:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=ThunderbirdPortable&;n=Mozilla%20Thunderbird,%20Portable%20Edition&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=ThunderbirdPortable_78.4.0_English.paf.exe

I'm not recommending it because it works better than the installed version. I'm recommending it because if it ever develops problems, you can have a backup copy. You can simply delete the copy with the problem and copy the backup copy to the location where you run the program. Create a new backup copy periodically to keep it up-to-date, such as when the program updates itself.

Also, you can simply copy the program to another computer if you want to use it on another machine. You can run it on an external drive if you want to run it on someone's machine without placing the program on the machine.

I don't know why the program didn't run properly and I don't know if the portable version will. But if it does, I think the portable version is by far a better choice.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 5:12 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10



Hello Gene and Gerald

I actually tried to install Thunderbird before I asked the question but after installing I just heard "tab" whatever I do and it would not give me a chance to enter my credentials, maybe it is an old version. Can one of you perhaps give a link where I can download a version which will work?

Regards

Fanus









From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 1:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10







I agree. Thunderbird is definitely the way to go in Windows 10. Forget about Windows Live Mail, which is no longer supported and may or may not continue to work in Windows 10 if you can even find a usable version somewhere online. The same is true of Outlook Express. The problem with both WLM and Outlook Express is that feature updates to Windows 10, which are now released every six months, may delete them and all their associated files, requiring them to be reinstalled each time. Also, there is no guarantee that a future update to Windows 10 won't break WLM or OE and cause them to stop working altogether. There is a paid email client called OE Classic which is similar to Outlook Express that works in Windows 10, but there have been mixed reports about its accessibility with JAWS and NVDA.



Gerald







On 11/4/2020 5:49 AM, Gene wrote:



Is there any particular reason you want to use Outlook Express? You may be able to find a version, but Thunderbird is not much different and it will probably run well on your machine.

-----Original Message----- From: Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10

Hello list
Is there such an adapted version or if not, where can I download a version
of Windows live male that wil run on a win10 laptop and accessible with
JAWS? I did google for a WLM version but it won't install.
Regards
Fanus


Re: outlook express adapted for windows 10

Gerald Levy
 


You can download the latest version of Thunderbird from the Ninite site:


https://ninite.com/


Gerald



On 11/4/2020 6:12 AM, Fanus wrote:

Hello Gene and Gerald

I actually tried to install Thunderbird before I asked the question but after installing I just heard "tab" whatever I do and it would not give me a chance to enter my credentials, maybe it is an old version. Can one of you perhaps give a link where I can download a version which will work?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 1:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10

 

 

I agree.  Thunderbird is definitely the way to go in Windows 10.  Forget about Windows Live Mail, which is no longer supported and may or may not continue to work in Windows 10 if you can even find a usable version somewhere online.  The same is true of Outlook Express.  The problem with both WLM and Outlook Express is that feature updates to Windows 10, which are now released every six months, may delete them and all their associated files, requiring them to be reinstalled each time.  Also, there is no guarantee that a future update to Windows 10 won't break WLM or OE and cause them to stop working altogether.  There is a paid email client called OE Classic which is similar to Outlook Express that works in Windows 10, but there have been mixed reports about its accessibility with JAWS and NVDA.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/4/2020 5:49 AM, Gene wrote:

Is there any particular reason you want to use Outlook Express?  You may be able to find a version, but Thunderbird is not much different and it will probably run well on your machine.

-----Original Message----- From: Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10

Hello list
Is there such an adapted version or if not, where can I download a version
of Windows live male that wil run on a win10 laptop and accessible with
JAWS? I did google for a WLM version but it won't install.
Regards
Fanus











Re: outlook express adapted for windows 10

Fanus
 

Hello Gene and Gerald

I actually tried to install Thunderbird before I asked the question but after installing I just heard "tab" whatever I do and it would not give me a chance to enter my credentials, maybe it is an old version. Can one of you perhaps give a link where I can download a version which will work?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 1:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10

 

 

I agree.  Thunderbird is definitely the way to go in Windows 10.  Forget about Windows Live Mail, which is no longer supported and may or may not continue to work in Windows 10 if you can even find a usable version somewhere online.  The same is true of Outlook Express.  The problem with both WLM and Outlook Express is that feature updates to Windows 10, which are now released every six months, may delete them and all their associated files, requiring them to be reinstalled each time.  Also, there is no guarantee that a future update to Windows 10 won't break WLM or OE and cause them to stop working altogether.  There is a paid email client called OE Classic which is similar to Outlook Express that works in Windows 10, but there have been mixed reports about its accessibility with JAWS and NVDA.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/4/2020 5:49 AM, Gene wrote:

Is there any particular reason you want to use Outlook Express?  You may be able to find a version, but Thunderbird is not much different and it will probably run well on your machine.

-----Original Message----- From: Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10

Hello list
Is there such an adapted version or if not, where can I download a version
of Windows live male that wil run on a win10 laptop and accessible with
JAWS? I did google for a WLM version but it won't install.
Regards
Fanus











Re: outlook express adapted for windows 10

Gerald Levy
 


I agree.  Thunderbird is definitely the way to go in Windows 10.  Forget about Windows Live Mail, which is no longer supported and may or may not continue to work in Windows 10 if you can even find a usable version somewhere online.  The same is true of Outlook Express.  The problem with both WLM and Outlook Express is that feature updates to Windows 10, which are now released every six months, may delete them and all their associated files, requiring them to be reinstalled each time.  Also, there is no guarantee that a future update to Windows 10 won't break WLM or OE and cause them to stop working altogether.  There is a paid email client called OE Classic which is similar to Outlook Express that works in Windows 10, but there have been mixed reports about its accessibility with JAWS and NVDA.


Gerald



On 11/4/2020 5:49 AM, Gene wrote:
Is there any particular reason you want to use Outlook Express?  You may be able to find a version, but Thunderbird is not much different and it will probably run well on your machine.

-----Original Message----- From: Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10

Hello list
Is there such an adapted version or if not, where can I download a version
of Windows live male that wil run on a win10 laptop and accessible with
JAWS? I did google for a WLM version but it won't install.
Regards
Fanus












Re: outlook express adapted for windows 10

Gene
 

Is there any particular reason you want to use Outlook Express? You may be able to find a version, but Thunderbird is not much different and it will probably run well on your machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 3:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] outlook express adapted for windows 10

Hello list
Is there such an adapted version or if not, where can I download a version
of Windows live male that wil run on a win10 laptop and accessible with
JAWS? I did google for a WLM version but it won't install.
Regards
Fanus


outlook express adapted for windows 10

Fanus
 

Hello list
Is there such an adapted version or if not, where can I download a version
of Windows live male that wil run on a win10 laptop and accessible with
JAWS? I did google for a WLM version but it won't install.
Regards
Fanus


Re: microsoft office 365 is it accessible with NVDA?

Mário Navarro
 



hi Quentin.
great tips.
thank you good friend.
thank you for everything you do for us, and for the world NVDA community.
you are a wonderful human being.
god bless you Quentin.
long life for you.

cheers.

Às 07:59 de 04/11/2020, Quentin Christensen escreveu:
Hi Mário,

Yes NVDA works great with Office 365.  There are some things which work better, for instance, spell check in Word didn't used to have the option to read the context of the misspelt word or definition of suggested replacements - except by using object navigation.  Now that all works as you navigate around the spellcheck pane.  Because Office 365 is regularly updated, there is always the danger of things breaking, but for the most part, I would say Microsoft fix more things than they break in terms of accessibility overall.  Plus, if you DO report an issue (accessibility or otherwise) in say Office 2016 or even Office 2019 - Microsoft aren't going to fix it in that version, they'll fix it (if it's still an issue) in Office 365.

So the main consideration then is that Office 365 is a subscription product you pay for either monthly or yearly, vs Office 2019 which can buy outright with one (higher initial outlay) purchase.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:37 PM Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:

Hello all.
can someone please confirm if the version of office 365 home, or the
personal version is accessible with NVDA?
if so, what is the percentage rate from 1 to 10?
the main office apps that I will use are: word, and excel.
How does NVDA work with these two apps?
can I invest without accessibility concerns in office 365 home, or
personal with NVDA?
I always got used to using the office pack 2016, or 2019.
but now I need other types of services with office 365.
and my concern is whether I will have the same accessibility with office
365.
I know that the structure and layout are different, but what interests
me is whether NVDA works normally as well as in the office pack, or
there are differences in accessibility.
please can someone give me some tips on this subject?
thank you all.
cheers.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

-- 
A acção pode nem sempre ser felicidade, mas não há felicidade sem acção...


Re: jaws and spotify desktop app

Gene
 

I haven't used Spotify much for quite some time.  My recollection is that control up arrow raises the volume and control down arrow lowers it.  I don't know if that still is the case but it was a few years ago, when I used Spotify quite a bit.

Gene

On 11/4/2020 2:10 AM, Kimsan via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone use spotify on here with jaws?

If so, how do you find the volume slider.

I’ve routed jaws to pc, used the touch curser and no go.

 

 

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jaws and spotify desktop app

Kimsan
 

Hi,

Does anyone use spotify on here with jaws?

If so, how do you find the volume slider.

I’ve routed jaws to pc, used the touch curser and no go.

 

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

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Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Quentin Christensen
 

You're welcome - I must admit, I initially got confused by the fact that if you move backwards from the edit, you get to a "toolbar" which only has one button in it - and not the one I wanted (it's the config button so you can change the properties of the report).

Re why it gets stuck in that edit, I'm not sure, something about the edit, you can arrow around it so it's not that it just ignores keyboard input, but they have done something funny to it - As far as I could find though, the only two controls you can get to on that dialog with the keyboard normally are the drop down (if you do it first up) and the edit, unless there is a shortcut key they haven't made obvious, I can't figure out how to access that save button aside from either using the mouse, or NVDA's object navigation (which basically emulates using the mouse for this task).

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 5:11 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Quentin,

           Thank you very much for "solving the mystery" I had not yet solved with regard to using object navigation to activate that button.  The text report format, and the range of available formats in text, from SpaceSniffer are definitely more screen reader user friendly than what comes in PDF from TreeSize Free.

           Although I have played with it some, object navigation still remains a personal weak point in my NVDA world.  I just don't seem to get the relationships between objects in any clear way.

           By the way, you may be able to explain this to me, why is it that NVDA "gets trapped" in the report preview part of the ScreenSniffer report generation process if you tab into it.  Once I do that I cannot extract myself no matter what I do.  I have to either close that window and start again or resort to sighted point and click to force my way out of that text box.  This is not something I've encountered before.  I could be doing something entirely wrong, but I have absolutely no idea what that might be.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: microsoft office 365 is it accessible with NVDA?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Mário,

Yes NVDA works great with Office 365.  There are some things which work better, for instance, spell check in Word didn't used to have the option to read the context of the misspelt word or definition of suggested replacements - except by using object navigation.  Now that all works as you navigate around the spellcheck pane.  Because Office 365 is regularly updated, there is always the danger of things breaking, but for the most part, I would say Microsoft fix more things than they break in terms of accessibility overall.  Plus, if you DO report an issue (accessibility or otherwise) in say Office 2016 or even Office 2019 - Microsoft aren't going to fix it in that version, they'll fix it (if it's still an issue) in Office 365.

So the main consideration then is that Office 365 is a subscription product you pay for either monthly or yearly, vs Office 2019 which can buy outright with one (higher initial outlay) purchase.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:37 PM Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:

Hello all.
can someone please confirm if the version of office 365 home, or the
personal version is accessible with NVDA?
if so, what is the percentage rate from 1 to 10?
the main office apps that I will use are: word, and excel.
How does NVDA work with these two apps?
can I invest without accessibility concerns in office 365 home, or
personal with NVDA?
I always got used to using the office pack 2016, or 2019.
but now I need other types of services with office 365.
and my concern is whether I will have the same accessibility with office
365.
I know that the structure and layout are different, but what interests
me is whether NVDA works normally as well as in the office pack, or
there are differences in accessibility.
please can someone give me some tips on this subject?
thank you all.
cheers.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: quick Question about NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Note that your NVDA key will be either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on what you have setup.  As Gene suggested, if you can't get to it that way, you can go via the notification area (system tray):

1. Press WINDOWS+B to jump to the navigation area.
2. Press the RIGHT ARROW to move to the NVDA icon (If you can't find it, go to "Notification overflow chevron", enter on that and then arrow through the extra icons).
3. Press ENTER to open the NVDA menu
4. Press DOWN ARROW once to "Preferences"
5. Press ENTER to open the sub-menu
6. Press ENTER again to open "Settings".
7. Press CONTROL+TAB to get to the "Keyboard" settings.

The first option is the Keyboard Layout.  Basically Desktop layout uses the number pad for some functions, and laptop layout doesn't.  So if you want to use NVDA+DOWN ARROW to say all from the current point, then you want Desktop Layout.  If you want to use NVDA+A for Say all, then that's Laptop keyboard layout.

The next option is your NVDA modifier key(s).  You can select one or more of:
CAPS LOCK
NUMPAD INSERT
INSERT (The one near DELETE, HOME, END, PAGE UP, PAGE DOWN, etc)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 2:47 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
If you are using the command NVDA key n and the menu doesn't open, you can
try opening it from the system tray.  Right click the NVDA icon and the menu
will open if it can.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2020 9:44 PM
To: Techtalk
Subject: [TechTalk] quick Question about NVDA

Hi,


I can't seem to access the NVDA menu.  Do I need to download extra software?


Thanks,













--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Quentin,

           Thank you very much for "solving the mystery" I had not yet solved with regard to using object navigation to activate that button.  The text report format, and the range of available formats in text, from SpaceSniffer are definitely more screen reader user friendly than what comes in PDF from TreeSize Free.

           Although I have played with it some, object navigation still remains a personal weak point in my NVDA world.  I just don't seem to get the relationships between objects in any clear way.

           By the way, you may be able to explain this to me, why is it that NVDA "gets trapped" in the report preview part of the ScreenSniffer report generation process if you tab into it.  Once I do that I cannot extract myself no matter what I do.  I have to either close that window and start again or resort to sighted point and click to force my way out of that text box.  This is not something I've encountered before.  I could be doing something entirely wrong, but I have absolutely no idea what that might be.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


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Re: NVDA, A Space Hog

Quentin Christensen
 

I had a look at the first option Brian suggested: SpaceSniffer

The download page is:
http://www.uderzo.it/main_products/space_sniffer/download.html

The direct download is:
https://www.fosshub.com/SpaceSniffer.html?dwl=spacesniffer_1_3_0_2.zip

Brian is right, everything up to actually saving the report is accessible.  I did manage to save the report using object navigation: So, first run a report, then:
1. Press "Next object" command: NVDA+numpad 6 (NVDA+shift+right arrow) until the focus goes past the vertical and horizontal scrollbars to the "Toolbar".  Note that if you go to previous object you will eventually get to another toolbar - that is a DIFFERENT toolbar!
2. On the toolbar, press Move to first contained object (NVDA+2 or NVDA+shift+down arrow).  The object navigator goes to "button".
3. Press "Move mouse to current navigator object" (NVDA+numpad divide or NVDA+shift+m).
4. Press the left mouse button click (numpad divide or NVDA+[)

That opens a file save dialog where you can specify where to save the file.

Otherwise, yes maybe use Tree Size Free *grin*

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 5:09 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Joe, this is going to have to be a collaborative effort due to a couple of complications.   SpaceSniffer is able to generate a text report, but believe it or not, it's entirely accessible until you hit the screen where you generate it.  I can't find any way to activate the Export button on that page with a screen reader.

TreeSize Free generates an exported PDF report, which most don't like, but I just found that its actual space analysis report in the program appears to be accessible, so you can go down through it line by line there once its done the scan.  Here's what I've put together as the "tutorial starter" and you'll need to give me feedback regarding what happens after the report is up and you've attempted to read through it to see what's hogging the space.  It could go perfectly smoothly or you could hit bumps.  It's your job to report back about that.
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TreeSize Free Download Page – You can select either the installable version or portable version from the dropdown on that page.  Either will get the information you  need.  There is also a cluster of 3 radio buttons to indicate the region of the world for which you’re downloading:  North America/Europe/Other, followed by the Download Button.

This tutorial will presume you’ve downloaded the portable version (ZIP format) and have already unzipped it to the folder from which you wish to run the program and are sitting in that folder.

1.       Fire up TreeSizeFree.exe.

2.       Hit ALT+S,D [Scan Tab/Ribbon, Select Directory], you will then be presented with your drive options as well as a Select Directory to Scan option at the end of the submenu.  Pick what’s appropriate for what you’re doing.  I will choose a directory for the rest of this tutorial, and that directory will end up being C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA.  If you use the directory option you will be presented with a typical File Explorer navigation dialog to select the folder you want.  You can, of course, type out the path in the Folder edit box if you know it.  The choice is yours.  As soon as you've selected/typed a folder hit the Select Folder button and the scan begins.

3.       If you keep focus on the TreeSizeFree window it will begin reading out the result of its analysis when it finishes, and for folder that will be very quickly.  What starts the report is the folder or drive level you chose to scan.  Down arrowing will take you through the various subfolders and files associated with it, reading out names, sizes, etc.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com



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Quentin Christensen
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Re: please help me figure out my firefox

Nancy Shackelford
 

I haven't used Firefox in a while, but you might try maximizing the
page, then get into the settings for the browser and see what you
might change.
Nance

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Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--

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