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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Gene
 

In a message later in the thread, I said that with NVDA, page break is announced no matter how you have punctuation set. I don't recall if the question specifically mentioned read to end, I don't recall the exact name of the feature, but page break is spoken no matter how you encounter it, read to end, move by line, etc.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 5:37 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Hi all,

Um, point of clarification? I believe the original poster said that
the problem was that NVDA announced the page breaks in continuous
reading mode. This is not the same as removing the page-break from the
document. Wouldn't changing the punctuation to none in NVDA eliminate
the announcement of page-breaks?

Now, I could be wrong because I was reading the original post at 23:00
last evening, never a good time for sharpness of mind. So if I'm
wrong, just ignore me. However, me thinks you're all trying to remove
the dozen large cans of cream from the dairy instead of just removing
the cat. <smiling with twinkle>

Ann P.


Original message:
It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA. JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.
I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing. She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.
But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.
I don't know what the carachter is. The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

That's what it's supposed to say. The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol. The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it. Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.

Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses. I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol. It said carret m.
Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Hi Heather,
These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.
You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.
1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what your talking about? Thank you,
Heather


Sent from Mail for Windows 10




From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad




I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.
This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the
default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored. I
have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary. Perhaps others will have
other experiences.
First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the
temporary dictionary. I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the
clipboard. It doesn't work. You have to select something right next to it,
such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.
Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the
additional carachter after pasting.
Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space. Tab to and
activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button. You
have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.


I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have
to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol
not to be spoken. You may be able to remove the page breaks using search
and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad






Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with
notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please
send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when
reading books. Thank you,


Heather






Sent from Mail for Windows 10


























--
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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Ah, vindacation! I believe this is an NVDA command and can be easily solved. Maybe Joseph Lee or Quentin Whosits can enlighten us? My first thought is to go into the menu and look in audio preferences. At least I'd start there.

Hmmm, interesting, there's a whole list of symbols under an item in the menu called symbol something-or-other. It really does help to explore the menus of your program. Now all you need to do is find the pesky page-break. If it isn't in the list, which is quite extensive, then apparently you can add it. I'd seek info on the NVDA list first, though. I'm about halfway there to fixing the problem, but think an expert may do better at this.

Ann P.


Original message:

Yes, I do not want the screen reader to announce page breaks. They can bee there but, I just do not want to hear page break for every page break in the text. Very annoying when one reads a book or text. I have not taking the steps very busy today, so never got around to trying it out. Thank you for the info. I never understood why some screen readers do not have this issue most notedly j2018 and VO of my phone or ipad. While others like the latest jaws and narrator cant get rid of them when reading text. And jaws support is to lame to fix it evem when I tried their steps which, I might add, the folks who gave them to me, have not tried them cause they would see these steps are not stopping jaws from saying page break with either word or notepad. Cheers Heather
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From: Mike B <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
She said that she wants to stop NVDA from reading page breaks in Notepad. Well, the steps I provided will remove the page breaks and the, ^m, is the symbol that is used in the find & replace feature to do this. You put, ^m, into the Find field..., now follow the steps I posted earlier. As I tried to explain the ^m, is a Windows thing used by the find & replace feature to remove page breaks just like, ^p, is used to remove paragraph marks and , ^t, is used to remove tabs. All I'm suggesting is to remove the page breaks not modify a dictionary file to stop NVDA from announcing them. She might not want to remove them, but I don't know what the page break symbol looks like, just like yourself, to modify the NVDA dictionary to keep NVDA from announcing it. I also couldn't find either the ASCII or ANSI digital codes to create a page break manually to place either in the find & replace dialogue or the dictionary so NVDA wouldn't announce it. I may be wrong, but I think you're wanting to suppress the announcement of the page break where I'm suggesting the removal of the page break so there isn't a page break to be announced. I don't know if she wants to remove the page breaks or not and I don't know enough about NVDA to offer another suggestion than the removal of the page breaks. Hopefully she'll respond to let us know her outcome.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA. JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.
I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing. She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.
But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.
I don't know what the carachter is. The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

That's what it's supposed to say. The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol. The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it. Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.

Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses. I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol. It said carret m.
Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Hi Heather,
These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.
You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.
1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what your talking about? Thank you,
Heather


Sent from Mail for Windows 10




From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad




I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.
This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the
default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored. I
have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary. Perhaps others will have
other experiences.
First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the
temporary dictionary. I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the
clipboard. It doesn't work. You have to select something right next to it,
such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.
Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the
additional carachter after pasting.
Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space. Tab to and
activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button. You
have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.


I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have
to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol
not to be spoken. You may be able to remove the page breaks using search
and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad






Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with
notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please
send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when
reading books. Thank you,


Heather






Sent from Mail for Windows 10




























--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Um, point of clarification? I believe the original poster said that the problem was that NVDA announced the page breaks in continuous reading mode. This is not the same as removing the page-break from the document. Wouldn't changing the punctuation to none in NVDA eliminate the announcement of page-breaks?

Now, I could be wrong because I was reading the original post at 23:00 last evening, never a good time for sharpness of mind. So if I'm wrong, just ignore me. However, me thinks you're all trying to remove the dozen large cans of cream from the dairy instead of just removing the cat. <smiling with twinkle>

Ann P.


Original message:

It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA. JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.
I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing. She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.
But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.
I don't know what the carachter is. The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

That's what it's supposed to say. The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol. The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it. Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.

Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad
I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses. I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol. It said carret m.
Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Hi Heather,
These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.
You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.
1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what your talking about? Thank you,
Heather


Sent from Mail for Windows 10




From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad




I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.
This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the
default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored. I
have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary. Perhaps others will have
other experiences.
First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the
temporary dictionary. I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the
clipboard. It doesn't work. You have to select something right next to it,
such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.
Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the
additional carachter after pasting.
Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space. Tab to and
activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button. You
have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.


I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have
to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol
not to be spoken. You may be able to remove the page breaks using search
and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad






Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with
notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please
send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when
reading books. Thank you,


Heather






Sent from Mail for Windows 10


























--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


My first Github repository

 

Hi to all
I've created a github repository for translating software from Sao Mai center for the blind, the company I'm working. Its address is: https://github.com/manhcuong0312/SM-Soft-Translation
This could help blind people around the world to use our free, accessible  software, and help me to learn github. So if you want to contribute your localization file, or tell me what I should, and should do on this repository, I appreciated.
Cuong


Re: Email client issue?

Mike Gurney
 

Hello Billy


Try alt G followed by O and then cursor, probably, down and right.  Just cursory to your inbox.


Mike.

On 12/09/2020 09:12, Billy Inglis wrote:

Sent from my iPhoneHi guys, Need help with the thunderbird email client?.

I have found that sometimes the program when launched is not going to the home inbox, but instead is landing on the option tab, and it is difficult to get back to the inbox.

Can anyone please help?, Billy


Email client issue?

Billy Inglis
 

Sent from my iPhoneHi guys, Need help with the thunderbird email client?.

I have found that sometimes the program when launched is not going to the home inbox, but instead is landing on the option tab, and it is difficult to get back to the inbox.

Can anyone please help?, Billy


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Gene
 

Here's something someone may provide the answer to. I was looking into the question and the carachter for page break we are discussing is an ASCII carachter. These may be entered using alt numpad codes, when the numlock is on. For example, holding alt and typing the followihng numbers on the numpad then releasing alt inserts the carriage return code:
alt 0 1 3.

I haven't found the symbol for page break and I've done a lot of looking. I hope a list member gives the code because I'm curious.

I gather that some word processors have a feature that you can use to insert ASCII codes into documents, but I don't know enough about that to discuss that further. I'm quite sure that's what the insert code feature does in JAWS, inserts the ASCII code for a symbol you select from a list into a document. I don't remember the name of the feature.

It appears that, as I suspected, there is more than one way to write some of these symbols, maybe all, but I don't know enough about that to discuss it further.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 12:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I'm sorry, but I'm very skeptical that Mike's steps will work.

Here are steps that should work if you want to remove them.

I didn't remember doing this, but I found a document I saved quite some time
ago in which I removed them. the way I did it is the following:
I copied the page break carachter to the clipboard by selecting it and
another carachter immediately to the right or the left of it and copyihng
it.
I then pasted it into the search field of the search and replace dialog and
I then removed the other carachter, leaving only the page break.
I then placed a space in the replace field, though I may not have had to do
that.
I then tabbed to and pressed the space bar on the replace button and it did.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 12:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad



Yes, I turned all off, at least the ones I could. I hope to try the steps
maybe after my all day conference gets over. Cheers Heather



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From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hi Heather,







I understand this can be a total pain in the keester, but have you tried
changing your punctuation settings in NVDA to either None or Some to see if
this would help?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!



----- Original Message -----



From: heather albright



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:29 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Yes, I do not want the screen reader to announce page breaks. They can bee
there but, I just do not want to hear page break for every page break in the
text. Very annoying when one reads a book or text. I have not taking the
steps very busy today, so never got around to trying it out. Thank you for
the info. I never understood why some screen readers do not have this issue
most notedly j2018 and VO of my phone or ipad. While others like the latest
jaws and narrator cant get rid of them when reading text. And jaws support
is to lame to fix it evem when I tried their steps which, I might add, the
folks who gave them to me, have not tried them cause they would see these
steps are not stopping jaws from saying page break with either word or
notepad. Cheers Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







She said that she wants to stop NVDA from reading page breaks in Notepad.
Well, the steps I provided will remove the page breaks and the, ^m, is the
symbol that is used in the find & replace feature to do this. You put, ^m,
into the Find field..., now follow the steps I posted earlier. As I tried
to explain the ^m, is a Windows thing used by the find & replace feature to
remove page breaks just like, ^p, is used to remove paragraph marks and ,
^t, is used to remove tabs. All I'm suggesting is to remove the page breaks
not modify a dictionary file to stop NVDA from announcing them. She might
not want to remove them, but I don't know what the page break symbol looks
like, just like yourself, to modify the NVDA dictionary to keep NVDA from
announcing it. I also couldn't find either the ASCII or ANSI digital codes
to create a page break manually to place either in the find & replace
dialogue or the dictionary so NVDA wouldn't announce it. I may be wrong,
but I think you're wanting to suppress the announcement of the page break
where I'm suggesting the removal of the page break so there isn't a page
break to be announced. I don't know if she wants to remove the page breaks
or not and I don't know enough about NVDA to offer another suggestion than
the removal of the page breaks. Hopefully she'll respond to let us know her
outcome.











Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!



----- Original Message -----



From: Gene



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:57 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA. JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.

I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing. She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.

But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.

I don't know what the carachter is. The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


That's what it's supposed to say. The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol. The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it. Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.


Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses. I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol. It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored. I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary. Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary. I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard. It doesn't work. You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space. Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button. You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken. You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Gene
 

I'm sorry, but I'm very skeptical that Mike's steps will work.

Here are steps that should work if you want to remove them.

I didn't remember doing this, but I found a document I saved quite some time ago in which I removed them. the way I did it is the following:
I copied the page break carachter to the clipboard by selecting it and another carachter immediately to the right or the left of it and copyihng it.
I then pasted it into the search field of the search and replace dialog and I then removed the other carachter, leaving only the page break.
I then placed a space in the replace field, though I may not have had to do that.
I then tabbed to and pressed the space bar on the replace button and it did.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 12:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad



Yes, I turned all off, at least the ones I could. I hope to try the steps maybe after my all day conference gets over. Cheers Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hi Heather,







I understand this can be a total pain in the keester, but have you tried changing your punctuation settings in NVDA to either None or Some to see if this would help?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!



----- Original Message -----



From: heather albright



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:29 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Yes, I do not want the screen reader to announce page breaks. They can bee there but, I just do not want to hear page break for every page break in the text. Very annoying when one reads a book or text. I have not taking the steps very busy today, so never got around to trying it out. Thank you for the info. I never understood why some screen readers do not have this issue most notedly j2018 and VO of my phone or ipad. While others like the latest jaws and narrator cant get rid of them when reading text. And jaws support is to lame to fix it evem when I tried their steps which, I might add, the folks who gave them to me, have not tried them cause they would see these steps are not stopping jaws from saying page break with either word or notepad. Cheers Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







She said that she wants to stop NVDA from reading page breaks in Notepad. Well, the steps I provided will remove the page breaks and the, ^m, is the symbol that is used in the find & replace feature to do this. You put, ^m, into the Find field..., now follow the steps I posted earlier. As I tried to explain the ^m, is a Windows thing used by the find & replace feature to remove page breaks just like, ^p, is used to remove paragraph marks and , ^t, is used to remove tabs. All I'm suggesting is to remove the page breaks not modify a dictionary file to stop NVDA from announcing them. She might not want to remove them, but I don't know what the page break symbol looks like, just like yourself, to modify the NVDA dictionary to keep NVDA from announcing it. I also couldn't find either the ASCII or ANSI digital codes to create a page break manually to place either in the find & replace dialogue or the dictionary so NVDA wouldn't announce it. I may be wrong, but I think you're wanting to suppress the announcement of the page break where I'm suggesting the removal of the page break so there isn't a page break to be announced. I don't know if she wants to remove the page breaks or not and I don't know enough about NVDA to offer another suggestion than the removal of the page breaks. Hopefully she'll respond to let us know her outcome.











Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!



----- Original Message -----



From: Gene



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:57 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA. JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.

I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing. She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.

But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.

I don't know what the carachter is. The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


That's what it's supposed to say. The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol. The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it. Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.


Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses. I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol. It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored. I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary. Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary. I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard. It doesn't work. You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space. Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button. You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken. You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Gene
 

That does nothing. I have my punctuation set to none and NVDA still announces page break when the symbol is encountered. As I said in my previous message, it does not say m or carret m, it says the words page break so this is clearly a different symbol. If it were the same one, if I manually place it in a document, NVDA would announce page break and it doesn't.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

I understand this can be a total pain in the keester, but have you tried changing your punctuation settings in NVDA to either None or Some to see if this would help?
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Yes, I do not want the screen reader to announce page breaks. They can bee there but, I just do not want to hear page break for every page break in the text. Very annoying when one reads a book or text. I have not taking the steps very busy today, so never got around to trying it out. Thank you for the info. I never understood why some screen readers do not have this issue most notedly j2018 and VO of my phone or ipad. While others like the latest jaws and narrator cant get rid of them when reading text. And jaws support is to lame to fix it evem when I tried their steps which, I might add, the folks who gave them to me, have not tried them cause they would see these steps are not stopping jaws from saying page break with either word or notepad. Cheers Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







She said that she wants to stop NVDA from reading page breaks in Notepad. Well, the steps I provided will remove the page breaks and the, ^m, is the symbol that is used in the find & replace feature to do this. You put, ^m, into the Find field..., now follow the steps I posted earlier. As I tried to explain the ^m, is a Windows thing used by the find & replace feature to remove page breaks just like, ^p, is used to remove paragraph marks and , ^t, is used to remove tabs. All I'm suggesting is to remove the page breaks not modify a dictionary file to stop NVDA from announcing them. She might not want to remove them, but I don't know what the page break symbol looks like, just like yourself, to modify the NVDA dictionary to keep NVDA from announcing it. I also couldn't find either the ASCII or ANSI digital codes to create a page break manually to place either in the find & replace dialogue or the dictionary so NVDA wouldn't announce it. I may be wrong, but I think you're wanting to suppress the announcement of the page break where I'm suggesting the removal of the page break so there isn't a page break to be announced. I don't know if she wants to remove the page breaks or not and I don't know enough about NVDA to offer another suggestion than the removal of the page breaks. Hopefully she'll respond to let us know her outcome.











Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!



----- Original Message -----



From: Gene



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:57 PM



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA. JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.

I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing. She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.

But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.

I don't know what the carachter is. The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


That's what it's supposed to say. The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol. The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it. Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.


Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses. I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol. It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored. I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary. Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary. I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard. It doesn't work. You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space. Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button. You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken. You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

heather albright
 

Yes, I turned all off, at least the ones I could. I hope to try the steps maybe after my all day conference gets over. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

Hi Heather,

 

I understand this can be a total pain in the keester, but have you tried changing your punctuation settings in NVDA to either None or Some to see if this would help? 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:29 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

Yes, I do not want the screen reader to announce page breaks. They can bee there but, I just do not want to hear page break for every page break in the text. Very annoying when one reads a book or text. I have not taking the steps very busy today, so never got around to trying it out. Thank you for the info. I never understood why some screen readers do not have this issue most notedly j2018 and VO of my phone or ipad. While others like the latest jaws and narrator cant get rid of them when reading text. And jaws support is to lame to fix it evem when  I tried their steps which, I might add, the folks who gave them to me, have not tried them cause they would see these steps  are not stopping jaws from saying page break with either word or notepad. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

She said that she wants to stop NVDA from reading page breaks in Notepad.  Well, the steps I provided will remove the page breaks and the, ^m, is the symbol that is used in the find & replace feature to do this.  You put, ^m, into the Find field..., now follow the steps I posted earlier.  As I tried to explain the ^m, is a Windows thing used by the find & replace feature to remove page breaks just like, ^p, is used to remove paragraph marks and , ^t, is used to remove tabs.  All I'm suggesting is to remove the page breaks not modify a dictionary file to stop NVDA from announcing them.  She might not want to remove them, but I don't know what the page break symbol looks like, just like yourself, to modify the NVDA dictionary to keep NVDA from announcing it.  I also couldn't find either the ASCII or ANSI digital codes to create a page break manually to place either in the find & replace dialogue or the dictionary so NVDA wouldn't announce it.  I may be wrong, but I think you're wanting to suppress the announcement of the page break where I'm suggesting the removal of the page break so there isn't a page break to be announced.  I don't know if she wants to remove the page breaks or not and I don't know enough about NVDA to offer another suggestion than the removal of the page breaks.  Hopefully she'll respond to let us know her outcome.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA.  JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.

I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing.  She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.

But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.

I don't know what the carachter is.  The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


That's what it's supposed to say.  The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol.  The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it.  Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.


Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses.  I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol.  It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1.  Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2.  In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m.  (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3.  Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4.  If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar.  You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time.  Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5.  Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what  your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored.  I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary.  Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary.  I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard.  It doesn't work.  You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space.  Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button.  You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken.  You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10
























 

 

 


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Mike B
 


Hi Heather,
 
I understand this can be a total pain in the keester, but have you tried changing your punctuation settings in NVDA to either None or Some to see if this would help? 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Yes, I do not want the screen reader to announce page breaks. They can bee there but, I just do not want to hear page break for every page break in the text. Very annoying when one reads a book or text. I have not taking the steps very busy today, so never got around to trying it out. Thank you for the info. I never understood why some screen readers do not have this issue most notedly j2018 and VO of my phone or ipad. While others like the latest jaws and narrator cant get rid of them when reading text. And jaws support is to lame to fix it evem when  I tried their steps which, I might add, the folks who gave them to me, have not tried them cause they would see these steps  are not stopping jaws from saying page break with either word or notepad. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

She said that she wants to stop NVDA from reading page breaks in Notepad.  Well, the steps I provided will remove the page breaks and the, ^m, is the symbol that is used in the find & replace feature to do this.  You put, ^m, into the Find field..., now follow the steps I posted earlier.  As I tried to explain the ^m, is a Windows thing used by the find & replace feature to remove page breaks just like, ^p, is used to remove paragraph marks and , ^t, is used to remove tabs.  All I'm suggesting is to remove the page breaks not modify a dictionary file to stop NVDA from announcing them.  She might not want to remove them, but I don't know what the page break symbol looks like, just like yourself, to modify the NVDA dictionary to keep NVDA from announcing it.  I also couldn't find either the ASCII or ANSI digital codes to create a page break manually to place either in the find & replace dialogue or the dictionary so NVDA wouldn't announce it.  I may be wrong, but I think you're wanting to suppress the announcement of the page break where I'm suggesting the removal of the page break so there isn't a page break to be announced.  I don't know if she wants to remove the page breaks or not and I don't know enough about NVDA to offer another suggestion than the removal of the page breaks.  Hopefully she'll respond to let us know her outcome.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA.  JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.

I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing.  She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.

But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.

I don't know what the carachter is.  The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


That's what it's supposed to say.  The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol.  The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it.  Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.


Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses.  I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol.  It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1.  Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2.  In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m.  (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3.  Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4.  If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar.  You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time.  Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5.  Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what  your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored.  I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary.  Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary.  I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard.  It doesn't work.  You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space.  Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button.  You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken.  You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10
























 


 


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

heather albright
 

Yes, I do not want the screen reader to announce page breaks. They can bee there but, I just do not want to hear page break for every page break in the text. Very annoying when one reads a book or text. I have not taking the steps very busy today, so never got around to trying it out. Thank you for the info. I never understood why some screen readers do not have this issue most notedly j2018 and VO of my phone or ipad. While others like the latest jaws and narrator cant get rid of them when reading text. And jaws support is to lame to fix it evem when  I tried their steps which, I might add, the folks who gave them to me, have not tried them cause they would see these steps  are not stopping jaws from saying page break with either word or notepad. Cheers Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

She said that she wants to stop NVDA from reading page breaks in Notepad.  Well, the steps I provided will remove the page breaks and the, ^m, is the symbol that is used in the find & replace feature to do this.  You put, ^m, into the Find field..., now follow the steps I posted earlier.  As I tried to explain the ^m, is a Windows thing used by the find & replace feature to remove page breaks just like, ^p, is used to remove paragraph marks and , ^t, is used to remove tabs.  All I'm suggesting is to remove the page breaks not modify a dictionary file to stop NVDA from announcing them.  She might not want to remove them, but I don't know what the page break symbol looks like, just like yourself, to modify the NVDA dictionary to keep NVDA from announcing it.  I also couldn't find either the ASCII or ANSI digital codes to create a page break manually to place either in the find & replace dialogue or the dictionary so NVDA wouldn't announce it.  I may be wrong, but I think you're wanting to suppress the announcement of the page break where I'm suggesting the removal of the page break so there isn't a page break to be announced.  I don't know if she wants to remove the page breaks or not and I don't know enough about NVDA to offer another suggestion than the removal of the page breaks.  Hopefully she'll respond to let us know her outcome.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA.  JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.

I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing.  She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.

But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.

I don't know what the carachter is.  The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


That's what it's supposed to say.  The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol.  The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it.  Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.


Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses.  I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol.  It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1.  Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2.  In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m.  (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3.  Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4.  If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar.  You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time.  Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5.  Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what  your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored.  I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary.  Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary.  I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard.  It doesn't work.  You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space.  Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button.  You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken.  You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10
























 


 


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Mike B
 


She said that she wants to stop NVDA from reading page breaks in Notepad.  Well, the steps I provided will remove the page breaks and the, ^m, is the symbol that is used in the find & replace feature to do this.  You put, ^m, into the Find field..., now follow the steps I posted earlier.  As I tried to explain the ^m, is a Windows thing used by the find & replace feature to remove page breaks just like, ^p, is used to remove paragraph marks and , ^t, is used to remove tabs.  All I'm suggesting is to remove the page breaks not modify a dictionary file to stop NVDA from announcing them.  She might not want to remove them, but I don't know what the page break symbol looks like, just like yourself, to modify the NVDA dictionary to keep NVDA from announcing it.  I also couldn't find either the ASCII or ANSI digital codes to create a page break manually to place either in the find & replace dialogue or the dictionary so NVDA wouldn't announce it.  I may be wrong, but I think you're wanting to suppress the announcement of the page break where I'm suggesting the removal of the page break so there isn't a page break to be announced.  I don't know if she wants to remove the page breaks or not and I don't know enough about NVDA to offer another suggestion than the removal of the page breaks.  Hopefully she'll respond to let us know her outcome.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA.  JAWS
doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.

I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm
wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the
characters you are citing.  She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt
she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.

But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing.
If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters
whatever is being used.

I don't know what the carachter is.  The carachter you are referencing may
be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or
under what circumstances.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


That's what it's supposed to say.  The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace
or remove the page break symbol.  The only way to know if it works or not is
to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it.  Here are other
symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.


Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses.  I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol.  It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1.  Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2.  In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m.  (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3.  Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4.  If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar.  You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time.  Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5.  Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what  your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored.  I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary.  Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary.  I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard.  It doesn't work.  You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space.  Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button.  You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken.  You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10
























 




Re: Definitive Analysis Of SiriusXM and the NFL App For listening to Live NFL Radio Play-By-Play

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I wonder if this Game Day Pro NFL is using listings from Free Football Radio: http://freefootballradio.com?  In fact, using that site and searching for the stations using the Victor Reader Stream Second Generation, I was able to find multiple reliable feeds for many NFL teams last year.  You can also use the team sites to find out current listings of stations and search for them individually and maybe get lucky and find an active feed which apparently violates the exclusive content of NFL for some reason.

Trying the same approach with Major League Baseball does not work. I have only been able to find two stations violating their exclusive content rules over the past several years.

On 9/11/2020 11:45 AM, Michael Mote wrote:
I did the same thing, and most of the feeds do indeed work. Occasionally, they do not. I wonder what this year will be like, considering some of the radio stations now are carrying baseball games on their regular feeds. Stations like WTAM for the Indians, and KLAB for the Dodgers. I don't know if it is every game, but they have been on from time to time.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Cc: TechTalk Mailing List <TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Definitive Analysis Of SiriusXM and the NFL App For listening to Live NFL Radio Play-By-Play


I listen to last nights game on an app called GameDay pro NFL and it cost $1.99. It has several different feeds for each team in case one does not work but last nights game worked just fine on the Kansas City feed.


On Sep 11, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

Hi Group,

This is a long post. If you aren't interested in NFL play-by-play broadcast, you might stop reading now.

On this and a few other lists, I initiated a discussion about how to best receive NFL radio play-by-play broadcasts of the games now that Tune In Premium had dropped the NFL and MLB broadcasts. As far as MLB, there is an iPhone app as well as a website interface. Both are very accessible and the $20 US yearly for the service for both the app and the website is very affordable.

As concerns the NFL play-by-play, the two choices are SiriusXM and the NFL site and app.

I had gotten several conflicting bits of information concerning the availability of NFL play-by-play for the SiriusXM service. Here is the definitive answer. You _MUST_ have a radio to receive NFL, NBA and MLB play-by-play broadcasts. I know this because yesterday, I signed up for the service and found out that the NFL game last night and the NFL listing for play-by-play did not exist on the online streaming service. When I signed up, I specifically asked if these play-by-play services were available. I was told by SiriusXM tech support that they were. When I found out last night that they were not, I called up this morning for a clarification and was definitively told that the services for NFL, NBA and MLB play-by-play were available only to those who owned radios. So that settles that issue once and for all. When I told SiriusXM support of the bad information I got yesterday, they were quite good about it and refunded my first month fees and cancelled my account.

Now for the NFL app. Let me say first off that the app is clumsy. There are a bunch of buttons that show up as unpronounceable for VoiceOver on the iPhone app. Experimentation has shown that the most important unlabeled button is the second from the top on the main screen and the Game Pass screen. This button is the settings button. VoiceOver has an ability to label unlabeled buttons, but that's one feature I haven't mastered at this time. There are a bunch of other unlabeled buttons that I haven't figured out yet.

However, the biggest issue with this app is not so much some of those buttons, but it is the way NFL handles the games. I experimented with this app for two days before the Thursday night game and they had only the remnant of the Super Bowl archives from last February listed under the Game Pass main screen. There is a year/week/day picker in the app which takes a bit of getting used to. When you first open it by double tapping on it, about fifty percent of the time, you get bounced to the status bar and have to navigate back to the picker. But what bothered me most was that the screen for current games stay locked in last February until 8:20 PM last night. At precisely that time, the app switched to the year 2020 and the current year appeared in the year/week/day picker and then and only then could you access the feed for both Houston and Kansas City. Once these feeds are available, you could double tap on the appropriate feed for home and away. The team names are clearly labeled so that is no problem.

What did happen is that for about the first five minutes, the games would not play and the TV feed which is not supposed to be available until immediately after the game has been completed actually played. Then it disappeared and the radio feeds became available. I assume this was a glitch on the part of the NFL itself and nothing to do specifically with the app. Maybe they'll do a better job on Sunday--having had these issues for the opening game.

As far as the website, each of these year/week/day time pickers is represented by a Tab. You press enter on the appropriate tab and then a drop down menu appears so you can highlight it and press enter again to expose the game/s for that day.

All in all, as clumsy as it is, it is usable and is you don't want to buy a radio, it is the only alternative for now--other than hunting down team network affiliates that may stream the games. Indeed there are a bunch of them that have done that in the past. The site Free Football Radio<http://www.freefootballradio.com> lists the affiliates of all 32 NFL teams and while they don't regularly update this list, many of the entries are valid enough. You can also go the the individual team website where the current list of affiliates is usually listed.

So there you have it: the major alternatives to the now defunct Tune In Premium NFL play-by-play broadcasts. The NFL site and app is a bit pricey at $100 yearly, but I suppose if you have sighted associates or family members, it might be worth it after all.

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Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Gene
 

It appears the person who asked the original question is using NVDA. JAWS doesn't announce the page break carachter when it encounters it.

I assume, and it’s a good assumption, but the person may correct me if I'm wrong, that the person is hearing the words page break being spoken, not the characters you are citing. She asks how to remove page breaks and I doubt she would say that if she heard the code spoken as carret m.

But the carachter being discussed isn't the carachter you are discussing. If it were, NVDA would say page break just as it does when it encounters whatever is being used.

I don't know what the carachter is. The carachter you are referencing may be used as a page break character but I don't know which programs do so or under what circumstances.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


That's what it's supposed to say. The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace or remove the page break symbol. The only way to know if it works or not is to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it. Here are other symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.


Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses. I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol. It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored. I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary. Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary. I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard. It doesn't work. You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space. Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button. You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken. You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Mike B
 


That's what it's supposed to say.  The, ^m, is what Windows uses to replace or remove the page break symbol.  The only way to know if it works or not is to use the steps in a file that has page breaks in it.  Here are other symbols that are used in the Find & Replace feature.
 
 
Paragraph Mark, ^p
Tab Character, ^t
Any Character, ^c
Any Digit, ^g
Any Letter, ^y
Caret Character, ^r
§ Section Character, ^a
¶ Paragraph Character, ^a
Column Break, ^u
Em Dash, ^m
En Dash, ^n
Endnote Mark, ^e
Field, ^d
Footnote Mark, ^f
Graphic, ^i
Manual Line Break, ^l
Manual Page Break, ^k
Nonbreaking Hyphen, ^h
Nonbreaking Space, ^s
Optional Hyphen, ^o
Section Break, ^b
White Space, ^w
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the
document uses.  I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA
didn't say page break when it read the symbol.  It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all
manual page breaks.

1.  Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2.  In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m.  (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3.  Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4.  If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar.  You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time.  Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5.  Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you
can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the
space before the page break. Is that what  your talking about? Thank you,
Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored.  I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary.  Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary.  I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard.  It doesn't work.  You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space.  Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button.  You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken.  You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10



















 




Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Gene
 

I doubt that is the same symbol as whatever put the page breaks into the document uses. I tried placing the symbol in a document in Notepad and NVDA didn't say page break when it read the symbol. It said carret m.

Also, when I work with the symbol, as far as I can tell, it takes one space.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Hi Heather,

These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.

You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all manual page breaks.

1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad


Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the space before the page break. Is that what your talking about? Thank you, Heather



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad





I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored. I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary. Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary. I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard. It doesn't work. You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space. Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button. You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.



I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken. You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad







Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,



Heather







Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: Dropbox and pCloud

George McCoy
 

Fwiw, When I click on Dropbox in my system tray, the context menu speaks just as it has always done.


George

On 9/10/2020 2:56 PM, Joe Orozco wrote:
Thanks to David for vouching for pCloud.

As for Dropbox, if you click on it from the system tray, there's
silence. You might be able to tab around and eventually get it to tell
you to press Enter to open Dropbox, but it's hit or miss. Even once
you succeed at opening the right window, it seems more difficult to
find Preferences. I generally like Dropbox, but its attention to
accessibility when it comes to Windows leaves something to be desired.
So far on iOS it seems fine.

Joe


On 9/10/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
How has the system tray interface gotten worse? I don't use it much but
with NVDA, the part I look at looks the same and when I look at preferences,

it looks as it used to.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Orozco
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Dropbox and pCloud

Hello,

Does anyone know if there are JAWS scripts for Dropbox? The website
accessibility has grown increasingly bad, and even the desktop app
seems to have gotten worse in terms of simple things like checking
free space and adjusting sync settings.

Also, does anyone have experience with pCloud? I'm testing out the app
now before deciding whether or not to buy into their lifetime plan.
Some of the features are not accessible, like adding passwords and
expiration dates to shared links, but this could be a matter of
finding the right workaround. I would be curious to hear other
people's impressions of the cloud storage service.

Thank you kindly in advance,

Joe







signing up for amazon prime

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I have the 30-day trial of amazon prime for now, and I know that normally after the 30 days that I'd automatically be charged but I called and asked for that not to happen right after I got the trial a couple of weeks ago. I decided that I do want to keep prime though, so I called the amazon disability line and was sent a link to amazon.com/prime but I don't see anywhere on there to sign up. Unless I have to wait for the trial to run out before I can sign up can anybody tell me what to do to sign up? Btw I want to pay monthly.

Thanks.

Troy


Re: how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Mike B
 


Hi Heather,
 
These are steps for Word, but give them a try in Notepad to see how it goes.
 
You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all manual page breaks. 
 
1.  Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2.  In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m.  (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m). 
3.  Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to
replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4.  If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the
Replace button and use spacebar.  You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time.  Otherwise, tab to the
Replace all button and use spacebar. 
5.  Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you can press spacebar on the OK button.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

Thank you, I do not have a symbol before the page break, unless, it is the space before the page break. Is that what  your talking about? Thank you, Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

I'm not sure how it might be done other than the method I'll present here.

This is a symbol and for some reason, I find that I can't add it to the

default speech dictionary or the voice dictionary and have it honored.  I

have to place it in the temporary dicgtionary.  Perhaps others will have

other experiences.

First, you have to get the symbol in a syntax that it can be pasted to the

temporary dictionary.  I've tried just selecting it and copying it to the

clipboard.  It doesn't work.  You have to select something right next to it,

such as a space and select the symbol and copy both to the clipboard.

Then, when you paste what you copied into the pattern field, remove the

additional carachter after pasting.

Then tab once to the pronounced as field and type a space.  Tab to and

activate the ok button, then tab to and activate the next ok button.  You

have solved the problem for this session of NVDA.

 

I wish I knew a permanent solution but at least when I've tried this, I have

to go through this procedure every time I run NVDA that I want the symbol

not to be spoken.  You may be able to remove the page breaks using search

and replace but I haven't played with that to any extent.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: heather albright

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:39 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] how to get rid of page breaks in note pad

 

 

 

Hello, I wante to get rid of my NVDA from announcing page breaks with

notepad. So what is the best way, if anyone knows how to do this, please

send the sequence commands. I do not like page breaks to be announced when

reading books. Thank you,

 

Heather

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10