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Re: Outlook 365 is driving me crazy

gbmagoo@...
 

What’s the difference from asking for step-by-step directions on this email calling Microsoft accessibility I don’t get it


On Oct 20, 2020, at 14:44, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@...> wrote:



Agreed. I find people are all too eager to make that suggestion instead of attempting to assist someone with learning to do things on their own. Again, teach a man to fish and all that.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October 20, 2020 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 365 is driving me crazy

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 05:02 PM, <gbmagoo@...> wrote:

Call Microsoft Accessibility and they will connect to your computer and do it for you and explain with her bowling at the same time Assessability they will connect to your computer and do it for you

-
I frequently recommend taking this route, but not until those who wish to do it themselves have actually tried to, and it seems that this is what Loy wants to do.

You learn nothing, or close to it, if someone else swoops in and takes care of things for you.  Sometimes that's necessary, but sometimes it's not.
 
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Re: Outlook 365 is driving me crazy

chris judge
 

Agreed. I find people are all too eager to make that suggestion instead of attempting to assist someone with learning to do things on their own. Again, teach a man to fish and all that.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October 20, 2020 6:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 365 is driving me crazy

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 05:02 PM, <gbmagoo@...> wrote:

Call Microsoft Accessibility and they will connect to your computer and do it for you and explain with her bowling at the same time Assessability they will connect to your computer and do it for you

-
I frequently recommend taking this route, but not until those who wish to do it themselves have actually tried to, and it seems that this is what Loy wants to do.

You learn nothing, or close to it, if someone else swoops in and takes care of things for you.  Sometimes that's necessary, but sometimes it's not.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Outlook 365 is driving me crazy

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 05:02 PM, <gbmagoo@...> wrote:
Call Microsoft Accessibility and they will connect to your computer and do it for you and explain with her bowling at the same time Assessability they will connect to your computer and do it for you
-
I frequently recommend taking this route, but not until those who wish to do it themselves have actually tried to, and it seems that this is what Loy wants to do.

You learn nothing, or close to it, if someone else swoops in and takes care of things for you.  Sometimes that's necessary, but sometimes it's not.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Re: Outlook 365 is driving me crazy

gbmagoo@...
 

Call Microsoft Accessibility and they will connect to your computer and do it for you and explain with her bowling at the same time Assessability they will connect to your computer and do it for you


On Oct 20, 2020, at 13:48, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

To my knowledge, account management in Outlook 365 is the same as it was in Outlook 2016 and 2019.

ALT+F,I,S,A  (File tab, Account Information, Account Settings Dropdown, Account Settings item)

You then get the standard Account Settings dialog that I've known in Outlook for as long as I can remember. You can use the Remove option there once the account you wish to remove is selected.

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Re: Outlook 365 is driving me crazy

 

To my knowledge, account management in Outlook 365 is the same as it was in Outlook 2016 and 2019.

ALT+F,I,S,A  (File tab, Account Information, Account Settings Dropdown, Account Settings item)

You then get the standard Account Settings dialog that I've known in Outlook for as long as I can remember. You can use the Remove option there once the account you wish to remove is selected.

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Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

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Outlook 365 is driving me crazy

Loy
 

I am new to Outlook 365 and I am trying to delete an email account. I have searched Google for the answer and I get several ways to do this and non are correct. Any suggestions?One is to go to file info select the account then click an option to remove, but no options to do so.


Re: google home number

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 10:05 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
How about using the Be My Eyes app to reach Google support? That might be a
tad faster than trying to do the same by phone.
-
During these days of Covid-19, it's almost certainly going to be no slower, at a minimum.  And I'd honestly expect your assessment about it being faster is correct.

It's among the options presented at Contact the Google Disability Support Team.
 
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Re: google home number

Gene
 

It means businesses, as in free enterprise.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] google home number

What are you talking about, enterprizes? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] google home number

Hi All:

How about using the Be My Eyes app to reach Google support? That might be a
tad faster than trying to do the same by phone. I may be wrong, but I think
that phone contacts with enterprises in this new age is not as great as it
once was. That said, it'll be ever so nice if enterprises, large and small,
offer phone contacts as a possible backup.

Sincerely,
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Re: google home number

Pamela Dominguez
 

What are you talking about, enterprizes? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] google home number

Hi All:

How about using the Be My Eyes app to reach Google support? That might be a
tad faster than trying to do the same by phone. I may be wrong, but I think
that phone contacts with enterprises in this new age is not as great as it
once was. That said, it'll be ever so nice if enterprises, large and small,
offer phone contacts as a possible backup.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado







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Re: email question

Pamela Dominguez
 

That was on my first computer that I finally gave away in 2008.  Pam.
 

Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question
 
Hi Donald,

Ask her if she ever used Arctic speech.  Boy that one makes Eloquence and most other synthesizers: hardware or software sound like the heavenly choir.


On 10/19/2020 11:26 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket.  Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence.  By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?

 

Don Roberts

 

On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not.  That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about.  I hate it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi, I don't know about personally running out of breath with one of these
messages. However, I have had jaws sounding like he needs to take a breath
in one of those sort of messages. It is quite funny and you can almost hear
him taking a deep breath at the end of the message.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

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Sent: Monday, 19 October 2020 2:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle.  The messages that make me
laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any
punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you
have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air
lasts through the whole message.  At the end you can actually hear yourself
gasping for breath.  It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

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Re: email question

Pamela Dominguez
 

No, but I have used articvision.  At this point, I’m using dectalk.  Pam.
 

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question
 

Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket.  Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence.  By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?

 

Don Roberts

 

On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not.  That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about.  I hate it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi, I don't know about personally running out of breath with one of these
messages. However, I have had jaws sounding like he needs to take a breath
in one of those sort of messages. It is quite funny and you can almost hear
him taking a deep breath at the end of the message.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2020 2:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle.  The messages that make me
laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any
punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you
have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air
lasts through the whole message.  At the end you can actually hear yourself
gasping for breath.  It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

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Not all those who wander are lost."














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Re: google home number

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Hi All:

How about using the Be My Eyes app to reach Google support? That might be a
tad faster than trying to do the same by phone. I may be wrong, but I think
that phone contacts with enterprises in this new age is not as great as it
once was. That said, it'll be ever so nice if enterprises, large and small,
offer phone contacts as a possible backup.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: edge

Gene
 

Are you talking about all sites or just this or that one? There was discussion a number of days ago on a list I follow, I don't remember which one, that Face Book forces Edge to open the site if you are using Internet Explorer. It doesn't force Edge to do so when using other browsers.

Its an increasingly bad idea to use Internet Explorer for general browsing. It may still work better enough with Face Book than other browsers to justify using it for that site, I don't use Facebook and I don't know. The interface has changed on the main Face Book site and it may no longer be a significant advantage.

If a site doesn't work well with another browser and does with Internet Explorer, it may be a good idea to use it for that site. But, as I said, it is increasingly a worse idea to use it for general browsing.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] edge



Hi,

Are we all forced to used edge now? I know, there are other browsers out there such as brave etc. I guess the better question is ie no longer working?

I ask this because on my windows 10 latest and jaws 2020 latest, when launching ie, going to a site it opens in edge.



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Re: accessible disk imaging software.

 

can some1 give me their winpe iso?
i tried everything and cant get narrator to work it starts my sighted
help can see it on screen but there is no audio.

On 10/12/20, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:
Austin,

What I've done with Image for windows for years is have an old spare hard
drive with a bootable operating system and image for windows installed on
it. I thin boot from that spare drive and use a USB to SATA adapter to
connect to original drive in the unit you want to restore to. I've done this
dozens of times over the years with no problem

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Austin
Pinto
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] accessible disk imaging software.

even after adding audio drivers and getting narrator to run at boot there is
no audio.

On 10/7/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
So right.
Sometimes, I get the cats and dogs mixed up.

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Steve Matzura
Sent: October 7, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] accessible disk imaging software.

No, not a disk. An audio tutorial of how to make a disk is what I
will make. You have to make it yourself because it's a very localized
thing.


On 10/6/2020 10:25 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Hi Steve,

Please make a disk.
I think many people could use such a utility.


Cheers,

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Re: edge

g melconian
 

That will be sunset and be removed an then most browsers will be eiteh edge,chrome, brave , epic and firefox . 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] edge

 

Hi,

Are we all forced to used edge now? I know, there are other browsers out there such as brave etc. I guess the better question is ie no longer working?

I ask this because on my windows 10 latest and jaws 2020 latest, when launching ie, going to a site it opens in edge.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA

Also, you may follow me on twitter:

https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

 


Re: email question

chris judge
 

Wow, I remember Artic, those were the days.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: October 20, 2020 1:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

 

Hi Donald,

Ask her if she ever used Arctic speech.  Boy that one makes Eloquence and most other synthesizers: hardware or software sound like the heavenly choir.

On 10/19/2020 11:26 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket.  Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence.  By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?

 

Don Roberts

 

On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not.  That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about.  I hate it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi, I don't know about personally running out of breath with one of these
messages. However, I have had jaws sounding like he needs to take a breath
in one of those sort of messages. It is quite funny and you can almost hear
him taking a deep breath at the end of the message.


From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2020 2:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle.  The messages that make me
laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any
punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you
have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air
lasts through the whole message.  At the end you can actually hear yourself
gasping for breath.  It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

--
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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."












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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


edge

Kimsan
 

Hi,

Are we all forced to used edge now? I know, there are other browsers out there such as brave etc. I guess the better question is ie no longer working?

I ask this because on my windows 10 latest and jaws 2020 latest, when launching ie, going to a site it opens in edge.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA

Also, you may follow me on twitter:

https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

 


Re: email question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Donald,

Ask her if she ever used Arctic speech.  Boy that one makes Eloquence and most other synthesizers: hardware or software sound like the heavenly choir.


On 10/19/2020 11:26 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket.  Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence.  By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?


Don Roberts


On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not.  That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about.  I hate it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi, I don't know about personally running out of breath with one of these
messages. However, I have had jaws sounding like he needs to take a breath
in one of those sort of messages. It is quite funny and you can almost hear
him taking a deep breath at the end of the message.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2020 2:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle.  The messages that make me
laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any
punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you
have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air
lasts through the whole message.  At the end you can actually hear yourself
gasping for breath.  It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."












-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: email question

Donald L. Roberts
 

Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket.  Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence.  By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?


Don Roberts


On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not.  That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about.  I hate it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi, I don't know about personally running out of breath with one of these
messages. However, I have had jaws sounding like he needs to take a breath
in one of those sort of messages. It is quite funny and you can almost hear
him taking a deep breath at the end of the message.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2020 2:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle.  The messages that make me
laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any
punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you
have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air
lasts through the whole message.  At the end you can actually hear yourself
gasping for breath.  It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."












Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

Gene
 

I meant to say that if a topic results in too many off topic or divisive posts, I may lock it because it may be unwieldy to moderate if fifty messages come in while I am asleep or am not monitoring the list for some reason.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

I did some checking and I see that there is a moderate topic offered by
Groups.io. Therefore, if you want to send a message on whatever you wanted
to discuss, I'll allow it and moderate the topic if it leads to problems.

If a topic results in too many divisive or unreasonably off topic posts, I
may moderate it because it might be too unwieldy to try to moderate a topic
where perhaps fifty messages come in while I'm asleep or not monitoring the
list for some reason. If a thread reaches the point where it is generating
a lot of divisive posts and/or off topic posts, usually the important on
topic posts have already reached the list.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I should add that I'll check to see if such a setting is available. I've
never looked. If so, that raises interesting possibilities.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see
the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure
what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if
I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you
introdeuce it again.

I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread,
though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific
members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a
list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that
specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread
develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly
divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results
in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this
unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when
the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its
just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and
peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is
generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding
staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two
threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number
of years.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel
like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I
reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted
answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without
locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to
participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts
off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a
very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though
unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more!

Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a
thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what
sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told
people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell
people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and
a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully
disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread
yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to
how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours
later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job
of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts.

I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A
lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best
that can be done.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics



Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't
following the list for a few hours.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved
into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of
accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare
times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively,
such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people
don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic.
Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on
the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every
message.

Gene, owner








So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to
messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair
to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back.
How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my
thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put
into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who
cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread
being penalized for the misdeeds of others?