Re: Thunderbird help needed
Gene
I don't have a current version of JAWS on my computer because I haven't used JAWS for years. On my very old version, when I left arrow, I don't hear anything. Using NVDA, I hear the address I am on. If I left arrow more than once, I move to other addresses, one left arrow moves me to another address and if I left arrow again, I am on another address, etc. With JAWS, the only way I can hear the addresses is to left arrow once, press enter, use read current line to read the address, press escape, left arrow twice to get to the next address, press enter, use read to end, press escape, left arrow three times, press enter, use read current line, etc.
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Others who use JAWS may have other suggestions. Gene
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From: Gene Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 10:48 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunderbird help needed I don't know how you solve the problem. NVDA reads the information if I left arrow. It may be that using the read current line command, JAWS key numpad 8 in the desktop layout, I don't know the laptop layout, may read it. Or it may be that JAWS doesn't support that change in NVDA. I have another suggestion but I'll wait to see what you report. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Young via groups.io Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:30 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunderbird help needed Gene, I think the problem occurred when I upgraded to Thunderbird 78.4.0. For an example: When I replied to this message, I wanted to see if the message was going only to you or going to the list. In the older version of Thunderbird which I had up until today, I could just shift, tab back to the "to" field and Jaws would read to me who was going to receive this message. But now, I can't do that. I can get to the "to" field, but what Jaws reads is 2 with one address, use left arrow to focus on it". But the left arrow doesn't get me there. If I continue shift, tabbing it says"other types of address field" and another shift, tab takes me to the BCC,CC". So I can never find out to whom the message is going. "I suspect there is just a new keystroke I have to figure out, but I haven't hit on the right combination yet. Probably without using Thunderbird yourself, this won't make much sense so I am hoping someone on the list does use Thunderbird and has worked out the right keystroke. But thanks for your willingness to listen to my dilemma. Elaine On 10/29/2020 7:59 PM, Gene wrote: What are you having problems with. I don't use Thunderbird much but I know a reasonable amount about it. But without knowing what problems you are having, I don't know what to address. I didn't intend the pun but I'll point out that it is one.-- Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.
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Re: Looking for a laptop replacement
Nimer Jaber
You can write documents offline. You can also run Android apps, and manyn apps work just fine offline. You can run Linux apps on some Chromebooks as well. Thanks.
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Re: Thunderbird help needed
Gene
I don't know how you solve the problem. NVDA reads the information if I left arrow. It may be that using the read current line command, JAWS key numpad 8 in the desktop layout, I don't know the laptop layout, may read it. Or it may be that JAWS doesn't support that change in NVDA. I have another suggestion but I'll wait to see what you report.
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Gene
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From: Elaine Young via groups.io Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:30 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunderbird help needed Gene, I think the problem occurred when I upgraded to Thunderbird 78.4.0. For an example: When I replied to this message, I wanted to see if the message was going only to you or going to the list. In the older version of Thunderbird which I had up until today, I could just shift, tab back to the "to" field and Jaws would read to me who was going to receive this message. But now, I can't do that. I can get to the "to" field, but what Jaws reads is 2 with one address, use left arrow to focus on it". But the left arrow doesn't get me there. If I continue shift, tabbing it says"other types of address field" and another shift, tab takes me to the BCC,CC". So I can never find out to whom the message is going. "I suspect there is just a new keystroke I have to figure out, but I haven't hit on the right combination yet. Probably without using Thunderbird yourself, this won't make much sense so I am hoping someone on the list does use Thunderbird and has worked out the right keystroke. But thanks for your willingness to listen to my dilemma. Elaine On 10/29/2020 7:59 PM, Gene wrote: What are you having problems with. I don't use Thunderbird much but I know a reasonable amount about it. But without knowing what problems you are having, I don't know what to address. I didn't intend the pun but I'll point out that it is one.-- Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.
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Re: Looking for a laptop replacement
Monte Single
The one thing I would mention about a chrome book, regardless of brand, is that the programs on the unit are on line.
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For example, I do not think it has a word processor, email, etc. installed. You have to be logged in, as in on line. If I am wrong, than excuse the misinformation.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Smith via groups.io Sent: October 29, 2020 8:12 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for a laptop replacement Hello, I've been doing a lot of research on chromebooks. One model I'm looking at is the chromebook duet manufactured by lenovo. On 2020-10-28 11:59 p.m., Nimer Jaber wrote: Hello,
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Re: Looking for a laptop replacement
Monte Single
Hi Greg,
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What is sandboxing?
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher Sent: October 29, 2020 10:57 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for a laptop replacement Hello, I am going to preface this by saying I am an apple fan. However, the Surface would be much better for document editing on the go. It is still a hassle to do that with an iPad especially if you are going to be using dropbox. It is just not as easy as it is with a windows or Mac computer. It’s all the sandboxing on the iPad that makes it a bit difficult. This is not to say that you cannot do it on the iPad, it would just be easier on the surface. Greg Wocher On Oct 29, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Joe Orozco <jsoro824@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Thunderbird help needed
Elaine Young <REYoung1436@...>
Gene,
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I think the problem occurred when I upgraded to Thunderbird 78.4.0. For an example: When I replied to this message, I wanted to see if the message was going only to you or going to the list. In the older version of Thunderbird which I had up until today, I could just shift, tab back to the "to" field and Jaws would read to me who was going to receive this message. But now, I can't do that. I can get to the "to" field, but what Jaws reads is 2 with one address, use left arrow to focus on it". But the left arrow doesn't get me there. If I continue shift, tabbing it says"other types of address field" and another shift, tab takes me to the BCC,CC". So I can never find out to whom the message is going. "I suspect there is just a new keystroke I have to figure out, but I haven't hit on the right combination yet. Probably without using Thunderbird yourself, this won't make much sense so I am hoping someone on the list does use Thunderbird and has worked out the right keystroke. But thanks for your willingness to listen to my dilemma. Elaine
On 10/29/2020 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
What are you having problems with. I don't use Thunderbird much but I know a reasonable amount about it. But without knowing what problems you are having, I don't know what to address. I didn't intend the pun but I'll point out that it is one. --
Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.
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Re: Looking for a laptop replacement
Brian Zolo
Hey there, Mary, if you're using any screen reader, you definitely want to go with 8 gigs of ram and not just 4 gigs. You'll get much better performance with your screen reader with 8 gigs of ram. Brian Zolo
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Smith via groups.io Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 12:22 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for a laptop replacement The configuration I would get is the one with 4 gb of ram and a 128 gb ssd. The keyboard cover is sold separately. On 2020-10-29 12:20 p.m., Joe Orozco wrote: What configuration are you looking at, and does it include the -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Thunderbird help needed
Gene
What are you having problems with. I don't use Thunderbird much but I know a reasonable amount about it. But without knowing what problems you are having, I don't know what to address. I didn't intend the pun but I'll point out that it is one.
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Gene
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From: Elaine Young via groups.io Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 6:28 PM To: techtalk@groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Thunderbird help needed Hi, Are there any Thunderbird users out there? I think what has happened is I accidentally, or was forced into, upgrading to Thunderbird 78.4.0 and it has some differences I can't figure out. Can anyone help? -Elaine -- Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.
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Thunderbird help needed
Elaine Young <REYoung1436@...>
Hi, Are there any Thunderbird users out there? I think what has happened is I accidentally, or was forced into, upgrading to Thunderbird 78.4.0 and it has some differences I can't figure out. Can anyone help?
-Elaine -- Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.
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Re: Microsoft Edge browser
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 07:07 PM, Jerry hathaway wrote:
I am trying to find out how to make Microsoft Edge browser the default browser.- Presuming you're talking under Windows 10, the same way you make any other browser on your system the default browser: 1. Open Settings. 2. Open Apps. 3. Choose Default Apps in the Apps Pane. 4. Navigate to the Web Browser entry, which is a button, and that button will show whatever happens to be your current default web browser. Activate it. 5. From the list of installed web browsers presented, choose Edge (or, generically, whichever one in the list you want as your default web browser) 6. Close Settings. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Microsoft Edge browser
Jerry hathaway
I am trying to find out how to make Microsoft Edge
browser the default browser.
Jerry
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Re: Recycle bin issue, the solution
Carolyn Arnold
Goodness, I once accidentally deleted my Outlook folder,
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but, thank goodness, got it back.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage via groups.io Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 4:37 PM To: techtalk@groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Recycle bin issue, the solution Hi all. As requested here's a summary of the problem I encountered with the recycle bin and how I got it fixed all be it by trial and error, mostly error! I found out that by accident when deleting a file that I didn't get a delete confirmation dialogue but by the time I discovered this I had deleted a file I didn't want to delete. I went to the recycle bin to retrieve it but it wasn't there, nothing was there (this is a new computer and I'm just getting it set up in the manner I like). I went to the recycle bin properties and checked the check box that would in future give me the delete dialogue and then tested it by deleting a file I didn't want to keep. However, although I got a delete confirmation dialogue it asked me if I was sure I wanted to permanently delete the file and not asking if I was sure I wanted to send the file to the recycle bin. I went to the recycle bin properties and the first thing I got was 1. "Settings for selected location group" then a list of drives I had connected. Then there was: 2. "Custom size radio button checked." 3. "Maximum size:" 4. "Don't move files to the recycle bin. Don't move files radio button checked." 5. "Immediately when deleted radio button checked." 6. "display delete confirmation dialogue checked box checked." Then the OK button etc. I was Unable to uncheck any of those options except #6 but I didn't want to uncheck that one. I tried every combination I could think of and all without success including using 3 different screen readers. I then decided to go downstairs to my computer in the lounge which is Win10 and went to the recycle bin properties. Those properties had the don't send to recycle bin unchecked and the 2nd one checked but also where there was a list of my connected external drives the lounge computer had "local disc C" but that didn't show on the upstairs computer. I then went back upstairs and disconnected all my external drives so the upstairs and lounge were the same. I now went back into recycle bin properties and "Local disc" now showed. I tabbed to "custom size" and it was checked and when I tabbed past Max size to Don't send deleted files to the recycle bin the radio button was unchecked. The big moment was when I deleted an unwanted file and I got the delete confirmation dialogue but this time it asked me if I was sure I wanted to send the file to the recycle bin and of course I said yes. I went to the recycle bin and there the file was, Success! Just out of interest I connected one of my external drives and tried deleting an unwanted file; got the confirmation dialogue and it went to the recycle bin. I still don't have an answer as to why I couldn't get the don't send to recycle bin radio buttons unchecked and then eventually did so. The only circumstantial change made was to disconnect my external drives and that then allowed the "local Disc" option to appear, other than that I've no idea what caused the change. Sorry this has been a bit long winded but didn't know how other to describe what happened. Walter. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source =link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source =link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
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Re: Looking for a laptop replacement
Marie
It will depend on the options you wish to have, but if you just go to Best Buy and do a search for "Lenovo Windows tablet" you will get the models they currently have.
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Or, depending on your budget, I have a Surface Pro 7 with the Surface type cover for sale. Marie
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From: Mary Smith via groups.io Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 10:45 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for a laptop replacement Marie, this sounds like what I'm looking for. Could you find out the model number? On 2020-10-29 1:42 p.m., Marie wrote: Lenovo makes a very nice Win 10 tablet which comes with the type cover and is reasonably priced. A friend has one and likes it, so give it a look. I know Best Buy carries them.
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Re: reminder please!
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
See this message in the group archive: https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/message/94281
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Recycle bin issue, the solution
Walter Ramage
Hi all. As requested here’s a summary of the problem I encountered with the recycle bin and how I got it fixed all be it by trial and error, mostly error!
I found out that by accident when deleting a file that I didn’t get a delete confirmation dialogue but by the time I discovered this I had deleted a file I didn’t want to delete. I went to the recycle bin to retrieve it but it wasn’t there, nothing was there (this is a new computer and I’m just getting it set up in the manner I like).
I went to the recycle bin properties and checked the check box that would in future give me the delete dialogue and then tested it by deleting a file I didn’t want to keep. However, although I got a delete confirmation dialogue it asked me if I was sure I wanted to permanently delete the file and not asking if I was sure I wanted to send the file to the recycle bin.
I went to the recycle bin properties and the first thing I got was 1. “Settings for selected location group” then a list of drives I had connected.
Then there was: 2. “Custom size radio button checked.” 3. “Maximum size:” 4. “Don’t move files to the recycle bin. Don’t move files radio button checked.” 5. “Immediately when deleted radio button checked.” 6. “display delete confirmation dialogue checked box checked.”
Then the OK button etc.
I was Unable to uncheck any of those options except #6 but I didn’t want to uncheck that one.
I tried every combination I could think of and all without success including using 3 different screen readers.
I then decided to go downstairs to my computer in the lounge which is Win10 and went to the recycle bin properties. Those properties had the don’t send to recycle bin unchecked and the 2nd one checked but also where there was a list of my connected external drives the lounge computer had “local disc C” but that didn’t show on the upstairs computer.
I then went back upstairs and disconnected all my external drives so the upstairs and lounge were the same. I now went back into recycle bin properties and “Local disc” now showed.
I tabbed to “custom size” and it was checked and when I tabbed past Max size to Don’t send deleted files to the recycle bin the radio button was unchecked.
The big moment was when I deleted an unwanted file and I got the delete confirmation dialogue but this time it asked me if I was sure I wanted to send the file to the recycle bin and of course I said yes. I went to the recycle bin and there the file was, Success!
Just out of interest I connected one of my external drives and tried deleting an unwanted file; got the confirmation dialogue and it went to the recycle bin.
I still don’t have an answer as to why I couldn’t get the don’t send to recycle bin radio buttons unchecked and then eventually did so. The only circumstantial change made was to disconnect my external drives and that then allowed the “local Disc” option to appear, other than that I’ve no idea what caused the change.
Sorry this has been a bit long winded but didn’t know how other to describe what happened. Walter.
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reminder please!
Jim Wohlgamuth
Hi there FOLKS! Was reading about a talking bathroom scale on amazon on this list, and someone gave a model and the order info for a particular one. I seemed to have lost that email and was wondering if someone might re-post it please! THANKS Much! de <wohlggie@...><KF8LT><Jim
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Re: Looking for a laptop replacement
Mary Smith
Marie, this sounds like what I'm looking for. Could you find out the model number?
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On 2020-10-29 1:42 p.m., Marie wrote:
Lenovo makes a very nice Win 10 tablet which comes with the type cover and is reasonably priced. A friend has one and likes it, so give it a look. I know Best Buy carries them.
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Re: Looking for a laptop replacement
Mary Smith
Joe, thank you so much for the offer. I'd like to do a bit more research before I actually purchase something so if you know of someone else who would like your machine, its ok if you offer it to them instead.
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On 2020-10-29 12:48 p.m., Joe Orozco wrote:
I'm going to be selling an HP Pavilion X360 2-in-1. My model has an 11
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Re: Looking for a laptop replacement
Marie
Lenovo makes a very nice Win 10 tablet which comes with the type cover and is reasonably priced. A friend has one and likes it, so give it a look. I know Best Buy carries them.
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Marie
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From: Greg Wocher Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 9:56 AM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Looking for a laptop replacement Hello, I am going to preface this by saying I am an apple fan. However, the Surface would be much better for document editing on the go. It is still a hassle to do that with an iPad especially if you are going to be using dropbox. It is just not as easy as it is with a windows or Mac computer. It’s all the sandboxing on the iPad that makes it a bit difficult. This is not to say that you cannot do it on the iPad, it would just be easier on the surface. Greg Wocher On Oct 29, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Joe Orozco <jsoro824@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: talking scales
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On other lists many spoke highly of the taylor talking scale, amazon link below. It goes up to 440 lbs. so you have lots of room to expand.
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You might check if weak batteries are the problem before investing in a new scale. https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Electronic-Talking-Bathroom-Capacity/dp/B009Y32MVY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=taylor+talking+scale&qid=1603992381
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020, heather albright wrote:
Hello, I think my scale has issues and I have had from 2003. So does anyone know of a good talking scale that is accurate? I went from waying 130 to 139 back to 130 in the span of 3 minutes. I know my cat does not way 20 pounds, she may way 15 pounds. So it has to be the scale showing it???s age! Cheers Heather --
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