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Re: what is grid view as opposed to list view?

Gene
 

Your previous message said:
While helping clean up old files from her drive, asked what one file was about. She said it was a case that dragged on for weeks. I said if I pushed her enter key, the file would be lost for eternity. She said we had best copy it to other media; the work to recreate it was immense. She did not want to recreate it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view?

Dear Gene & List:

The directory with the extension was on a PC.

My court reporter friend maintains backups of backups of backups, she is ever cautious.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: January 9, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Just one more story about someone not backing up anything they do not want to lose.  When will they ever learn? 

 

The folder with an extension is interesting, and it may apply to the grid view but since I have never used it, there may be some sort of pattern we have overlooked because it is obvious to sighted people and not to blind people.  I've never seen organization of files and folders complained of on Apple computers so are there other ways to organize them, or is their method, though similar, somehow able to be worked with well.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view?

 

Dear John & List:

 

Occasionally I give a Directory an extension. Did this one day when putting Norton Utilities on a friend, a Court reporter’s PC. Also warned her the programs in the directory could do terrible damage to her hard disk, such as wipe it clean in a few instants or delete files which are written-over several times to ensure they are irrecoverable.

 

Told her not to change Wipe disk and Wipe file to their short-form names, WAD and WF respectively. Made certain the directory was NOT in her path statement. I explained it was best to run Norton Utilities only when cold sober by explicitly naming the particular program you wanted to use.

 

Many of her transcripts were thousands of pages long. While helping clean up old files from her drive, asked what one file was about. She said it was a case that dragged on for weeks. I said if I pushed her enter key, the file would be lost for eternity. She said we had best copy it to other media; the work to recreate it was immense. She did not want to recreate it.

 

Brian

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf of John Dowling
Sent: January 9, 2019 6:49 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Wow. So grid view for windows kind of reminds me of list view for mac, where all the items are in alphabetical order, but it doesn't start with the folders and end with the files.


On Jan 8, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

Hi Joanne,

 

This is my observation when it comes to grid and list view.

 

I use grid view when I am in Dropbox and list view for most other things. In list view, all the folders are in alphabetical order at the top and the files are in alphabetical order after the folders.

 

In grid view, they are in alphabetical order, but folders and files are not separate. In Other words, the item at the top of the list may be a folder, after that a file, then another file, then three folders, another file, etc. Everything is in alphabetical order, just not separated as to files and folders.

 

If you have extensions showing, it is easy to tell them apart because files will show an extension and folders will have only a name. You access the folder contents the same as you usually do, but if you have files and folders inside the original folder in grid view, they will also show up in grid view, at least mine do.

 

Vicki

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Hi Joanne,

 

I cannot define Grid View but I believe it is something like Tile View.  Whenever I am on a website that gives me the option I always select the List view as well, it just makes navigation a more positive movement.

Take care.  Go Rams!
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----- Original Message -----

From: Joanne

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:06 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view?

 

I like list views for most things, but when downloading from open drive I wonder if grid view might be easier or does it make any difference as to the amount of items seen per page? I just do not know what grid view is, so it may not be as easy as list view but thought I would ask.

 

 


Re: Open Source Magnifier

Samuel Wilkins
 

Thank you George.  I've had a thought, I noticed that SAtogo is still going, I believed that has a magnifier, could that be used?

On 09/01/2019 17:53, george b wrote:
The last couple versions of Microsoft windows10 for sure have a built in program like zoom text it inlarges the screen and will also work with screen readers like jaws, narater, and n v d a

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins
Sent: January 9, 2019 9:28
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Open Source Magnifier

Hello all, I was talking to a friend of mine who is doing some voluntary work, and is partially sighted. At the moment, for the voluntary work she is doing, all she can use is a trial version of a Dolphin magnifier on her computer. She has asked about using Zoomtext or Magic, however the organisation, being voluntary, cannot afford either. She does not want to use a screen reader, and as far as I know, there is no open source magnification solution, similar to NVDA for screen reader. Does anyone know if there is an open source magnifier she can use? Thank you.

--
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins







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Regards,

Samuel Wilkins


Re: what is grid view as opposed to list view?

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Gene & List:

The directory with the extension was on a PC.

My court reporter friend maintains backups of backups of backups, she is ever cautious.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: January 9, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Just one more story about someone not backing up anything they do not want to lose.  When will they ever learn? 

 

The folder with an extension is interesting, and it may apply to the grid view but since I have never used it, there may be some sort of pattern we have overlooked because it is obvious to sighted people and not to blind people.  I've never seen organization of files and folders complained of on Apple computers so are there other ways to organize them, or is their method, though similar, somehow able to be worked with well.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view?

 

Dear John & List:

 

Occasionally I give a Directory an extension. Did this one day when putting Norton Utilities on a friend, a Court reporter’s PC. Also warned her the programs in the directory could do terrible damage to her hard disk, such as wipe it clean in a few instants or delete files which are written-over several times to ensure they are irrecoverable.

 

Told her not to change Wipe disk and Wipe file to their short-form names, WAD and WF respectively. Made certain the directory was NOT in her path statement. I explained it was best to run Norton Utilities only when cold sober by explicitly naming the particular program you wanted to use.

 

Many of her transcripts were thousands of pages long. While helping clean up old files from her drive, asked what one file was about. She said it was a case that dragged on for weeks. I said if I pushed her enter key, the file would be lost for eternity. She said we had best copy it to other media; the work to recreate it was immense. She did not want to recreate it.

 

Brian

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf of John Dowling
Sent: January 9, 2019 6:49 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Wow. So grid view for windows kind of reminds me of list view for mac, where all the items are in alphabetical order, but it doesn't start with the folders and end with the files.


On Jan 8, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

Hi Joanne,

 

This is my observation when it comes to grid and list view.

 

I use grid view when I am in Dropbox and list view for most other things. In list view, all the folders are in alphabetical order at the top and the files are in alphabetical order after the folders.

 

In grid view, they are in alphabetical order, but folders and files are not separate. In Other words, the item at the top of the list may be a folder, after that a file, then another file, then three folders, another file, etc. Everything is in alphabetical order, just not separated as to files and folders.

 

If you have extensions showing, it is easy to tell them apart because files will show an extension and folders will have only a name. You access the folder contents the same as you usually do, but if you have files and folders inside the original folder in grid view, they will also show up in grid view, at least mine do.

 

Vicki

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Hi Joanne,

 

I cannot define Grid View but I believe it is something like Tile View.  Whenever I am on a website that gives me the option I always select the List view as well, it just makes navigation a more positive movement.

Take care.  Go Rams!
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----- Original Message -----

From: Joanne

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:06 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view?

 

I like list views for most things, but when downloading from open drive I wonder if grid view might be easier or does it make any difference as to the amount of items seen per page? I just do not know what grid view is, so it may not be as easy as list view but thought I would ask.

 

 


Re: Email Error Message

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Mike & OLiastP:

Proceed to the options of Outlook and set the timeout slider to 100%. It may be set lower, permitting timeouts.

Perform a repair on the pop3 log in. Contact the ISP as ythey may have changed something. Also contact ISPP for help with resetting the password.

Test your changes. If all is ok,, they will be accepted.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: January 9, 2019 4:58 PM
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Email Error Message

 

Hi All,

 

A friend is running Windows 7, Outlook Express and Jaws 13.  I've checked all his settings and made sure the correct password is inserted but, he keeps getting the message below.  He runs POP3, his ISP is AT&T and he's using Yahoo.com.

 

Error Message:

Outlook Express
Some errors occurred while processing the requested tasks.  HidePlease review the list of errors below for more details.
Stop
<< Details
ErrorsTasks
There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your Password was rejected.
Account: 'My Mail', Server: 'plus.pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Server
Response
: '-ERR [SYS/TEMP] Server error - Please try again later.', Port: 995,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC92
A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Account: 'My Mail', Server:
'plus.pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number:
0x800CCC19
0 of 1 tasks have completed successfully

End

 

Does this sound like only a server error message from Yahoo to you all as well?  Or, does anyone have any other suggestions to try?  He's located in Florida  and I'm wondering if anyone else is running into server issues with Yahoo or AT&T?  Thanks much.

 

 

 

Take care.  Go Rams!
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Re: Uber trouble?

Shelly Kane
 

You are welcome.  Hope this helps.  Let me know if it works.

On 1/9/2019 5:54 PM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Thanks very much Shelly!  I surely will try this out.

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Uber trouble?

 

Hi Vicky:

 

When you open Uber, you will hear where to and you double tap on it and then the dictate button will be on the bottom row on your screen and you will have to listen and it will say keyboard, dictate and some letters.  When you hear dictate, double tap on it and say the address you are going to and then double tap on it to stop.  Hope this helps.

Shelly

On 1/9/2019 10:47 AM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi Shelly, Would you tell me about where I should be able to find the “Dictate” button?

 

Again thanks very much!

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 1:36 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Uber trouble?

 

Vicky:

 

You are more than welcome.  I hope this helps you be able to use it more efficiently.  No, I have never had to log in again.  My settings are saved so when I open Uber, I can just start getting my trips scheduled.  I haven't heard of this before and I have no idea who you could contact.  The only thing I can suggest is getting someone who is sighted to check it out for you and maybe delete the App and then log in again and have them help you save everything.  You should be able to start getting rides as soon as you open it.  Let me know how the dictating feature works for you.  It's a great service but a bit expensive.  Take care and good luck.

Shelly

On 1/8/2019 9:54 AM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi and thank you Shelly for your helpful information!  I will certainly try your dictating method!

 

Since you say that you also only use it on an infrequent basis, have you found that you must reauthenticate yourself with it every month? I know I have for at least November December and January.  This is a bit of a pain!

 

Thanks again!

Vicky

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Uber trouble?

 

Hi Vicky:

 

Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with Uber.  I use it occasionally and it's been about a year.  I have had no trouble using it at all.  I had someone set it up for me and ever since then, it has worked perfectly.  What I do is open the app, and it will say where to and I hit dictate and say where I'm going and you basically have to say the address and the town it's in because there may be several streets with the same name and after that, you swipe over until it

says something like coming from and you can automatically put your home address in there and it will say home but sometimes, I have had to put other address in and it's the same format and then you swipe over and select Uber X or Xl and after that, you hit request Uber and it will say finding nearby drivers.  I hope this helps.  I have found that Lyft is more accessible because they have an easier format to contact their drivers.  I have trouble contacting Uber drivers.  Let me know if you have anymore questions.

Shelly On 1/7/2019 5:59 PM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi List, Has anyone here with no site, been able to work independently with Uber on their iPhone?

 

This is now the third month and each month I have to reauthenticate it.  However, when I try to do that, the voiceover stops and not even a clicking sound is audible. 

 

If you have gotten this to work for you and you are dependent on Voiceover to use it, would you very kindly help me out?

 

Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan

 


Re: I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA

Shirley Koda
 

I’ve used it twice in Walgreens.  It was nice to shop by myself.  I also tried it in an airport.  The agent who was trying to help said the picture wasn’t very clear.  She still tried very hard to help me find an elevator.  It took her a little time to try and figure out where we were.  Then someone came and got an assistant.

 

Shirley  

 


Re: I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Bob& List:

I cannot see the firm reducing the hourly rate they charge, they are providing a very labor-intensive service. You also need reliable people working for them who will not hijack banking & card information for criminal use.

I realize the firm has to pay its people, however, doubt the staff are paid anything approaching their hourly rate to clients.

They likely pay between one half and one-third their hourly rate to clients.

Yes, it is an excellent service; admirable of the free locations to offer free service, but unfortunately few blind people are wealthy enough to use it widely.
Not sure if the Toronto or Ottawa airports offer free service.
Brian K. Lingard


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf of Bob
Sent: January 9, 2019 12:46 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I hope this is not off topic/AIRA

Hello:

NFB members can subscribe for $20 a month, which gives you 30 minutes. Others can subscribe for $29 a month, which gives you 30 minutes also.
It is now a 24 hour a day service.
For further information, I would suggest that you go to their website or subscribe to their group.io list.
If you are not comfortable travelling independently, Aira is a good service. For most other activities, Be My Eyes is free and there are many low or free apps that will do most of the functions listed earlier in this thread.
If you need many help with a certain activity, you could also hire someone for less than $47/$60 an hour or $1 per minute for minutes that exceed your plan.
Have a great day.

On 1/9/19, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com> wrote:
Joanne and others, though I don't use AIRA's services, I've read a
Thing or two about it.

First, to use the service, a smartphone is an absolute necessity.
Second, the service is in partnership with AT&T unless something has
changed since I took some general look at it.

Third, it does cost a monthly subscription ranging from about $20 to
Well over $100 or more. I read somewhere that NFB members can get the
service for $20 per month; this will give you up to 30 minutes usage
Time, which can be divided as you so choose. I think I also read about
$99 monthly subscription fee for NFB members, but I don't recall how
Many minutes that gives you.

Based on what I read sometime back, the service is available between
6:00 A.M. and about 8:00 P.M. Mountain Time. It's possible that AIRA
Now provides a 24-hour service.

It may be a service worth investigating; what I do not know is whether
Or not the OUT OF POCKET monthly cost justifies the investment.
Personally, until I win the lottery, the Powerball or Mega Million or
Both, it is not a service I will throw a stick at. With that, I will let
Others who either use AIRA's services, or follow continued development
Of the project chip in and hopefully set me straight if I have written
Anything in error and by way of omission.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado





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Re: finding podcasts when you're not sure of the spelling

David Moore
 

Hi George!

This is David Moore from many lists, and I have been looking for something like this for years!

Thank you so very much!

I have wanted to just put in a search term, and have a list of podcasts come up.

Wow, I feel like I have another Christmas present!

Thank you so much!

David Moore

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: George McCoy
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 2:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding podcasts when you're not sure of the spelling

 

I'm glad you find it useful.

 

 

George

 

On 1/9/2019 8:32 AM, joanne wrote:

> Thanks to the person who suggested listennotes.com. I had a few

> podcasts which seemed to only be available with Apple products, but I

> was delighted to find that these very podcasts did in fact also have

> RSS feeds for downloading with a windows computer. That's really a

> great site.

> --------------------------------------------------

> From: "Troy Burnham" <troyburnham34@...>

> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 10:33 AM

> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] finding podcasts when you're not sure of the

> spelling

>> Thanks George I'll give that a try.

>> 

>> 

>> Troy

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 1/7/2019 8:51 AM, George McCoy wrote:

>>> I don't know the capabilities of the victor reader stream but if you

>>> can get it onto the web, go to listennotes.com.  It's a search

>>> engine for podcasts.  If you can get close to the right spelling, it

>>> will probably find your podcast.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Good luck,  I hope it works for you.

>>> 

>>> George

>>> 

>>> On 1/7/2019 8:08 AM, Troy Burnham wrote:

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> I just saw a podcast mentioned on twitter on my iPhone that I'm

>>>> interested in but I'm not sure of the spelling so I'm not sure how

>>>> to find it.  On twitter the name is "at 12 6 podcast", it's a

>>>> baseball podcast, so how can I either verify the spelling or find

>>>> it some other way?  Btw I'll be using my 2nd generation Victor

>>>> reader stream to find it if that matters, and it is mentioned that

>>>> the podcast is available through both iTunes and Spodify but I

>>>> don't subscribe to either one of those.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Thanks.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Troy

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 


Re: I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA

John Dowling <1008jmd@...>
 

Note: At the time, I was paying $89 a month.

On Jan 9, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow! That sounds way too rich for my blood! Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Bob
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA

Hello:

Well, now that we have determined that this subject is not off
topic, I have a few observations about Aira.
*. Aira is a great service if you can afford it. When they
started, they had an unlimited plan for $329 per month. Since that
time, they have revised their pricing structure. At this point, you
are paying $47 to $60 an hour depending upon the plan that you choose.
However, you are charged by the minute.
*. Another change is that they no longer provide glasses. Now,
if you want the glasses, you can buy or rent them.
*. They have partnered with companies where the service is free
for their location. E.G. some airports and/or other mervhants.
*. For further information, they have a users group on group.io
where you can subscribe.
Bottom line, it is a good service but not nearly as financially
vviable for the power user as it once was.
Have a great day.

On 1/9/19, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think it's off topic at all. Subscribing to this service is
definitely on my bucket list for this year.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA



Please let me know if I went off-topic with this. I am wondering if anyone
has used AIRA, which is a service whereby you have a phone with a camera
and
even extra glasses they provide. If you need sighted help with various
things--and someone to see if your silent computer screen is doing anything
would be one of those things ... just wondered if someone has it and what
they think. I understand that now you can use one of their provided phones
and their phones have a raised button as opposed to a regular android or I
phone. I have seen it used and was pretty impressed, but of course would
like to hear more reviews on it.



Joanne









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Re: configuring my new laptop with my hip wireless printer

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Troy & List:

OK on the correction of model number. I do little printing, used to buy a new cartridge of ink for each letter I wrote as the jets clogged up from neglect.

Laser printers are the best. Been told some small lasers are true monsters to change toner cartridges, many have just one cartridge. Nice and simple but when you run out of black or red, you must trash the remaining toner. Can get expensive.


Good luck with the printer.
Brian K. Lingard


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf of Troy Burnham
Sent: January 9, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] configuring my new laptop with my hip wireless printer

I think it is a deskjet printer.


After posting to the list last night I realized that I should look on hp.com, and I found some drivers and installed them but then I got side-tracked so I'm not sure if the drivers ever got completely installed and I haven't had a chance to see if I can access the printer from this machine or not yet. I assume that the drivers are installed because the last thing I remember is being asked if I needed to buy ink.


I also gave the wrong model number last night, I said it was an hp 3930 but it is an hp 3830. The drivers I installed were for the 3830, but my only sighted help was busy doing something else at the time so I just hope I installed the correct drivers. What I installed was for an all in one printer, and I think we can both fax and make copies with this printer but I am not sure.


Troy



On 1/9/2019 12:13 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Dear Troy & List:

Browse the PHP web site https://www.hop.com you will likely find your printer manual there. You likely need to turn wifi on the laptop & connect to the printer.

Is your printer ink jet or laser? Friend of mine years ago wanted a donated computer, with ink jet printer.


I explained the limitations of ink jet printers, was able to afford a laser for her. The laser started smoking one day, I told her to just unplug it from the wall, likely everything would be OK.

She is blind, freaks out, calls the Fire Department that responds with screaming sirens, clanging bells and flashing lights, unplugs the printer for her and all is well.

Ink jet printers should never be used to print a cheque or contract as the ink can smudge with a sweaty hand. Dishonest people can easily change the amount the cheque you wrote for them. Lasers produce smudge-free, permanent, images.

I am lucky in that I have a color, duplex, laser printer. Do 99% of my printing in black, however, can print an important word in red so it jumps off the page it stands out so well?

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] on
Behalf of Troy Burnham
Sent: January 8, 2019 1:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] configuring my new laptop with my HP wireless
Printer

Hi all,


How do I make my new laptop work with my wireless printer? It is an hp model 3930 printer, and I have had it for a while and I do not remember what I did to make my previous laptop work with it. I also do not know where the book that would have come with the printer is anymore.


I googled this and unless I just did not look far enough I did not find anything that helped me.


Thanks.


Troy


Re: I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA

Pamela Dominguez
 

Wow! That sounds way too rich for my blood! Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA

Hello:

Well, now that we have determined that this subject is not off
topic, I have a few observations about Aira.
*. Aira is a great service if you can afford it. When they
started, they had an unlimited plan for $329 per month. Since that
time, they have revised their pricing structure. At this point, you
are paying $47 to $60 an hour depending upon the plan that you choose.
However, you are charged by the minute.
*. Another change is that they no longer provide glasses. Now,
if you want the glasses, you can buy or rent them.
*. They have partnered with companies where the service is free
for their location. E.G. some airports and/or other mervhants.
*. For further information, they have a users group on group.io
where you can subscribe.
Bottom line, it is a good service but not nearly as financially
vviable for the power user as it once was.
Have a great day.

On 1/9/19, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think it's off topic at all. Subscribing to this service is
definitely on my bucket list for this year.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 10:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA



Please let me know if I went off-topic with this. I am wondering if anyone
has used AIRA, which is a service whereby you have a phone with a camera
and
even extra glasses they provide. If you need sighted help with various
things--and someone to see if your silent computer screen is doing anything
would be one of those things ... just wondered if someone has it and what
they think. I understand that now you can use one of their provided phones
and their phones have a raised button as opposed to a regular android or I
phone. I have seen it used and was pretty impressed, but of course would
like to hear more reviews on it.



Joanne









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Re: Uber trouble?

Vicky Vaughan
 

Thanks very much Shelly!  I surely will try this out.

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Uber trouble?

 

Hi Vicky:

 

When you open Uber, you will hear where to and you double tap on it and then the dictate button will be on the bottom row on your screen and you will have to listen and it will say keyboard, dictate and some letters.  When you hear dictate, double tap on it and say the address you are going to and then double tap on it to stop.  Hope this helps.

Shelly

On 1/9/2019 10:47 AM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi Shelly, Would you tell me about where I should be able to find the “Dictate” button?

 

Again thanks very much!

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 1:36 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Uber trouble?

 

Vicky:

 

You are more than welcome.  I hope this helps you be able to use it more efficiently.  No, I have never had to log in again.  My settings are saved so when I open Uber, I can just start getting my trips scheduled.  I haven't heard of this before and I have no idea who you could contact.  The only thing I can suggest is getting someone who is sighted to check it out for you and maybe delete the App and then log in again and have them help you save everything.  You should be able to start getting rides as soon as you open it.  Let me know how the dictating feature works for you.  It's a great service but a bit expensive.  Take care and good luck.

Shelly

On 1/8/2019 9:54 AM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi and thank you Shelly for your helpful information!  I will certainly try your dictating method!

 

Since you say that you also only use it on an infrequent basis, have you found that you must reauthenticate yourself with it every month? I know I have for at least November December and January.  This is a bit of a pain!

 

Thanks again!

Vicky

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Uber trouble?

 

Hi Vicky:

 

Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with Uber.  I use it occasionally and it's been about a year.  I have had no trouble using it at all.  I had someone set it up for me and ever since then, it has worked perfectly.  What I do is open the app, and it will say where to and I hit dictate and say where I'm going and you basically have to say the address and the town it's in because there may be several streets with the same name and after that, you swipe over until it

says something like coming from and you can automatically put your home address in there and it will say home but sometimes, I have had to put other address in and it's the same format and then you swipe over and select Uber X or Xl and after that, you hit request Uber and it will say finding nearby drivers.  I hope this helps.  I have found that Lyft is more accessible because they have an easier format to contact their drivers.  I have trouble contacting Uber drivers.  Let me know if you have anymore questions.

Shelly On 1/7/2019 5:59 PM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi List, Has anyone here with no site, been able to work independently with Uber on their iPhone?

 

This is now the third month and each month I have to reauthenticate it.  However, when I try to do that, the voiceover stops and not even a clicking sound is audible. 

 

If you have gotten this to work for you and you are dependent on Voiceover to use it, would you very kindly help me out?

 

Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan

 


Re: what is grid view as opposed to list view?

Gene
 

Just one more story about someone not backing up anything they don't want to lose.  When will they ever learn? 
 
The folder with an extension is interesting, and it may apply to the grid view but since I have never used it, there may be some sort of pattern we have overlooked because it is obvious to sighted people and not to blind people.  I've never seen organization of files and folders complained of on Apple computers so are there other ways to organize them, or is their method, though similar, somehow able to be worked with well.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view?

Dear John & List:

 

Occasionally I give a Directory an extension. Did this one day when putting Norton Utilities on a friend, a Court reporter’s PC. Also warned her the programs in the directory could do terrible damage to her hard disk, such as wipe it clean in a few instants or delete files which are written-over several times to ensure they are irrecoverable.

 

Told her not to change Wipe disk and Wipe file to their short-form names, WAD and WF respectively. Made certain the directory was NOT in her path statement. I explained it was best to run Norton Utilities only when cold sober by explicitly naming the particular program you wanted to use.

 

Many of her transcripts were thousands of pages long. While helping clean up old files from her drive, asked what one file was about. She said it was a case that dragged on for weeks. I said if I pushed her enter key, the file would be lost for eternity. She said we had best copy it to other media; the work to recreate it was immense. She did not want to recreate it.

 

Brian

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf of John Dowling
Sent: January 9, 2019 6:49 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Wow. So grid view for windows kind of reminds me of list view for mac, where all the items are in alphabetical order, but it doesn't start with the folders and end with the files.


On Jan 8, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

Hi Joanne,

 

This is my observation when it comes to grid and list view.

 

I use grid view when I am in Dropbox and list view for most other things. In list view, all the folders are in alphabetical order at the top and the files are in alphabetical order after the folders.

 

In grid view, they are in alphabetical order, but folders and files are not separate. In Other words, the item at the top of the list may be a folder, after that a file, then another file, then three folders, another file, etc. Everything is in alphabetical order, just not separated as to files and folders.

 

If you have extensions showing, it is easy to tell them apart because files will show an extension and folders will have only a name. You access the folder contents the same as you usually do, but if you have files and folders inside the original folder in grid view, they will also show up in grid view, at least mine do.

 

Vicki

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Hi Joanne,

 

I cannot define Grid View but I believe it is something like Tile View.  Whenever I am on a website that gives me the option I always select the List view as well, it just makes navigation a more positive movement.

Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my barstool.
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joanne

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:06 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view?

 

I like list views for most things, but when downloading from open drive I wonder if grid view might be easier or does it make any difference as to the amount of items seen per page? I just do not know what grid view is, so it may not be as easy as list view but thought I would ask.

 

 


Re: what is grid view as opposed to list view?

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear John & List:

 

Occasionally I give a Directory an extension. Did this one day when putting Norton Utilities on a friend, a Court reporter’s PC. Also warned her the programs in the directory could do terrible damage to her hard disk, such as wipe it clean in a few instants or delete files which are written-over several times to ensure they are irrecoverable.

 

Told her not to change Wipe disk and Wipe file to their short-form names, WAD and WF respectively. Made certain the directory was NOT in her path statement. I explained it was best to run Norton Utilities only when cold sober by explicitly naming the particular program you wanted to use.

 

Many of her transcripts were thousands of pages long. While helping clean up old files from her drive, asked what one file was about. She said it was a case that dragged on for weeks. I said if I pushed her enter key, the file would be lost for eternity. She said we had best copy it to other media; the work to recreate it was immense. She did not want to recreate it.

 

Brian

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf of John Dowling
Sent: January 9, 2019 6:49 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Wow. So grid view for windows kind of reminds me of list view for mac, where all the items are in alphabetical order, but it doesn't start with the folders and end with the files.


On Jan 8, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Vicki W <vwherry4@...> wrote:

Hi Joanne,

 

This is my observation when it comes to grid and list view.

 

I use grid view when I am in Dropbox and list view for most other things. In list view, all the folders are in alphabetical order at the top and the files are in alphabetical order after the folders.

 

In grid view, they are in alphabetical order, but folders and files are not separate. In Other words, the item at the top of the list may be a folder, after that a file, then another file, then three folders, another file, etc. Everything is in alphabetical order, just not separated as to files and folders.

 

If you have extensions showing, it is easy to tell them apart because files will show an extension and folders will have only a name. You access the folder contents the same as you usually do, but if you have files and folders inside the original folder in grid view, they will also show up in grid view, at least mine do.

 

Vicki

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view.

 

Hi Joanne,

 

I cannot define Grid View but I believe it is something like Tile View.  Whenever I am on a website that gives me the option I always select the List view as well, it just makes navigation a more positive movement.

Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my barstool.
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joanne

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:06 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] what is grid view as opposed to list view?

 

I like list views for most things, but when downloading from open drive I wonder if grid view might be easier or does it make any difference as to the amount of items seen per page? I just do not know what grid view is, so it may not be as easy as list view but thought I would ask.

 

 


Re: laptop keyboard, delete key won't function

Pamela Dominguez
 

Okay, very good.  I’m glad you have your problem fixed, and that you had a good experience with the microsoft disability people.  Pam.
 

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop keyboard, delete key won't function
 

Hi,

I actually just got off the phone from MS disability support, and by remote access the tech fixed the problem. There was some kind of snag  at the start up with some conflict with programs which caused  some performance problem. He disabled a few like drop box and then did a restart  and the delete key is working fine. With drop box  and the other programs once again enabled, another restart just to check and the delete key is still functioning.

Thanks for getting back and for your help.

Patrick 

 

Come and See

ScripturePassage+subscribe@groups.io

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 9:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop keyboard, delete key won't function

 

I wonder if this behavior is controlled by Windows or by the BIOS,, or whatever the replacement for BIOS is called.  I don't recall.  At any rate, I'm curious what happens if you use delet in a document.  Does it do what it usually does, delete the character to the right of the character immediately to the right of your current position? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Patrick Ford

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 6:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop keyboard, delete key won't function

 

Hi, yeah I have rebooted, and there are no restore points …strange thing …but it does work  in conjunction with the shift key …thanks …

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop keyboard, delete key won't function

 

I don't know what is causing the problem but have you rebooted since the problem began?  Do you have system restore points?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Patrick Ford

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 3:03 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop keyboard, delete key won't function

 

Thanks Gene, the delete key does not function in general; I noticed last night that after trying a combination of keys along with the delete  key, the shift plus delete key does make the delete key function. But this should not be. The delete key always worked alone. Does windows have some program that could change the function of keys, and perhaps I accidently set this in motion?

Thanks.

Patrick 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] laptop keyboard, delete key won't function

 

Try another screen-reader.  I can't answer definitely because I don't want to assume what odd things might happen when using a computer.  But NVDA shouldn't cause the problem.

 

Where does the delete key not work, in general or in a specific program?

 

Gene

----- original Message -----

 

From: Patrick Ford

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 7:02 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] laptop keyboard, delete key won't function

 

On an Acer Aspire laptop, windows 10, the delete key stopped functioning; I receive a windows sound which seems to indicate a wrong key  …I’m using NVDA as well …could this be the problem?

 

Come and See

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Email Error Message

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi All,
 
A friend is running Windows 7, Outlook Express and Jaws 13.  I've checked all his settings and made sure the correct password is inserted but, he keeps getting the message below.  He runs POP3, his ISP is AT&T and he's using Yahoo.com.
 
Error Message:
Outlook Express
Some errors occurred while processing the requested tasks.  HidePlease review the list of errors below for more details.
Stop
<< Details
ErrorsTasks
There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your Password was rejected.
Account: 'My Mail', Server: 'plus.pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Server
Response: '-ERR [SYS/TEMP] Server error - Please try again later.', Port: 995,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC92
A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Account: 'My Mail', Server:
'plus.pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number:
0x800CCC19
0 of 1 tasks have completed successfully
End
 
Does this sound like only a server error message from Yahoo to you all as well?  Or, does anyone have any other suggestions to try?  He's located in Florida  and I'm wondering if anyone else is running into server issues with Yahoo or AT&T?  Thanks much.
 
 
 
Take care.  Go Rams!
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Re: Samsung Haven.

Pamela Dominguez
 

If it’s a 3g phone, and you were using it, you can still use it until you can’t.  But from what I have heard, you can’t just now sign it up if you just get it.  Pam.
 

From: joanne
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Haven.
 
Yes it can. I'm still using mine and you should have no trouble signing up with it.
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 12:43 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Haven.
 

Can this phone still be used on Verizon?  I have one to sell but would like to find out if it can still run.

 

Shirley 


Re: Uber trouble?

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Vicky:


When you open Uber, you will hear where to and you double tap on it and then the dictate button will be on the bottom row on your screen and you will have to listen and it will say keyboard, dictate and some letters.  When you hear dictate, double tap on it and say the address you are going to and then double tap on it to stop.  Hope this helps.

Shelly

On 1/9/2019 10:47 AM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi Shelly, Would you tell me about where I should be able to find the “Dictate” button?

 

Again thanks very much!

 

Sincerely, Vicky

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 1:36 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Uber trouble?

 

Vicky:

 

You are more than welcome.  I hope this helps you be able to use it more efficiently.  No, I have never had to log in again.  My settings are saved so when I open Uber, I can just start getting my trips scheduled.  I haven't heard of this before and I have no idea who you could contact.  The only thing I can suggest is getting someone who is sighted to check it out for you and maybe delete the App and then log in again and have them help you save everything.  You should be able to start getting rides as soon as you open it.  Let me know how the dictating feature works for you.  It's a great service but a bit expensive.  Take care and good luck.

Shelly

On 1/8/2019 9:54 AM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi and thank you Shelly for your helpful information!  I will certainly try your dictating method!

 

Since you say that you also only use it on an infrequent basis, have you found that you must reauthenticate yourself with it every month? I know I have for at least November December and January.  This is a bit of a pain!

 

Thanks again!

Vicky

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Uber trouble?

 

Hi Vicky:

 

Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with Uber.  I use it occasionally and it's been about a year.  I have had no trouble using it at all.  I had someone set it up for me and ever since then, it has worked perfectly.  What I do is open the app, and it will say where to and I hit dictate and say where I'm going and you basically have to say the address and the town it's in because there may be several streets with the same name and after that, you swipe over until it

says something like coming from and you can automatically put your home address in there and it will say home but sometimes, I have had to put other address in and it's the same format and then you swipe over and select Uber X or Xl and after that, you hit request Uber and it will say finding nearby drivers.  I hope this helps.  I have found that Lyft is more accessible because they have an easier format to contact their drivers.  I have trouble contacting Uber drivers.  Let me know if you have anymore questions.

Shelly On 1/7/2019 5:59 PM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi List, Has anyone here with no site, been able to work independently with Uber on their iPhone?

 

This is now the third month and each month I have to reauthenticate it.  However, when I try to do that, the voiceover stops and not even a clicking sound is audible. 

 

If you have gotten this to work for you and you are dependent on Voiceover to use it, would you very kindly help me out?

 

Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan

 


Re: I hope this isn't off topic/AIRA

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Bob, thanks a ton for straightening things out for me regarding AIRA. It's
pleasing to know that it now has a 24-hour service.

Some blind lawyers are seriously thinking of deploying AIRA for use in
getting documents and other stuff organized; hopefully it'll work out and
make it less cumbersome for blind lawyers to be able to function well in
their practice and professional calling. Maybe the agencies they work for
might consider subsidizing the cost especially if these are government ones.
Private firms might be a bit leery especially since it might mean adjusting
their billables to accommodate the additional expense.

I think that when AI is fully implemented all over the place, access for the
blind in the mainstream will get better.

At airports, I've always gotten great help especially here at my bush's
base. I enjoy being able to share jokes with the folks who help me out and
laughing all the way to the concourse and gates is one fun I truly cherish.
Of course, I do make my arrangements way in advance with the airlines. I do
have T S A and Global Entry precheck clearance; as such going through
security is a breeze for me.

All these aside, because I am a dealer/distributor/retailer of durable
medical equipment & supplies, I can see where AIRA can be a useful tool.
Time and time again, I get faxes from doctors' offices that are handwritten.
Can AIRA help me read the faxes and make sense of them? Can AIRA help me
make sure that I am filing a customer's medical notes appropriately for easy
retrieval? If yes, getting the service might be an idea worth exploring;
however, my customer base isn't that large; besides, the reimbursements my
company is paid barely makes it possible for it to pay its bills and issue
me a small paycheck. In that wise, $329 monthly subscription might kill
every mocking and non-mocking bird that flies in or dives down from the sky.
Anyway, some AI technologies appear to be doing reasonably well with
handwritten stuff; I should look into these a bit more first before saying,
"YES, I DO TO AIRA!"

I am, without a doubt, grateful for new emerging technologies that will
change the landscape forever for the blind in the years to come: The future
will most certainly be far better than it is today.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


simple printers

heather albright
 

Hello, I want to air print but mine is to complicated! You always have to go in to the minues off the printer and set it up. So does any have a simple printer where by you just push a button and it connected to the device wher you are trying to air print from?

Thanks Heather

 

"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
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sites:
National Federation of The Blind:
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An Accessible Online Library:
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