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Re: Can't Copy From Drop Box

Gene
 

I suspect you may finally have gotten the new Drop Box update that has been out for months but that some people have just received recently.

Go to Drop Box in the system tray. I don’t think that you can do this in the System tray dialog your screen-reader offers.
Open the Drop box icon with the space bar or enter. They both may work or try each.
Up arrow to preferences. Up arrowing is much faster.
Tab until you get to open folders in. If it says desktop Dropbox application or something similar, up arrow to file explorer.
Tab to and activate the ok button. That will cause the old display where you can copy and paste to be used.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: lynn white
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Can't Copy From Drop Box

As of yesterday, I can't either upload or download to Drop Box. I've
tried searching help on Drop Box and Google and can find nothing of
consequence.

Thanks for any ideas.


Re: Checking On A Disc Drive

Geoff Eden
 

Try JAWS key with the tab.

Geoff

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 7:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Checking On A Disc Drive

HiLynn,

When the drive is selected, press alt plus the enter and the properties dialog for the drive will open.
Nvda reads the info automaticly, I think there is a key combo you have to use with jaws to here the info.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: July 28, 2020 3:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Checking On A Disc Drive

Using Windows 10, how do you check how full an external drive is? Thanks.


Can't Copy From Drop Box

lynn white
 

As of yesterday, I can't either upload or download to Drop Box. I've tried searching help on Drop Box and Google and can find nothing of consequence.

Thanks for any ideas.


Re: Problems with pc start and NVDA

Mike B
 


Translation please?!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Smiling?
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Wow, großes Lächeln! Das ist super cool für uns, das erste Mal, dass ich es gemacht habe, was keine große Sache ist, weiß ich, lächelt.
OK, Sie haben in der Vergangenheit regelmäßig ein Passwort verwendet, aber jetzt, aus welchen Gründen auch immer, ist es immer ungenau, von dem Sie wissen,
dass es falsch ist, oder? Wann hat das angefangen?
Ich suche nach einer Möglichkeit, das Passwort zu umgehen, und glaube, ich habe einige würdige Dinge gefunden, die ich ausprobieren kann.
Hast du eine Vision? Ich frage, weil Sie in der Lage sind, in das BIOS zu gehen, wie Sie gesagt haben, oder haben Sie vielleicht Hilfe gesehen?
Dies gibt uns mehr Optionen und nein, ich glaube nicht, dass Windows neu installiert werden muss, aber wenn Sie dies tun möchten, liegt es ganz bei Ihnen,
lächelt. Schön, miteinander zu reden.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:40
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Ja hallo!
Ja. Ich hahbe immer ein Paswort verwendet. Aber jetzt lässt es der Computer nicht mehr zu, dass ich es eingebe. Er wird immerr alsfalsch annerkannt. Verstehst du? Außerdem ist NVDA eingeschaltet und ich kann es nicht ausschalten. Der Bildschirm ist wegen des Bldschirmvorhang-Addons verdunkelt. Kein Sehender kann mir helfen und NVDA sagt nichts, also ich kann mir auch nicht helfen. Ich kenne mein Paswort ser gut. Ich habe ihn immerr gut eingegeben, aber seit gestern bekomme ich nur die Meldung, dass es falsch ist. Außerdem hat Windows ein Fehlerr beim Laden. Ich war auch in den BIOS-Einstellungen, aber da kann ich auch nichts neues machen. Ich glaube, ich muss Windows neuinstalieren oder?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 29.07.2020 um 11:32 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:
>
> This is using Google Translate, this is what I posted a little bit ago in German.
>
> Weißt du, ich bin mir nicht sicher. Also, was machst du? Den Computer herunterfahren? Und starten Sie es Backup und es geht an die Frage nach dem Passwort, oder?
>
> Haben Sie in der Vergangenheit ein Passwort für Ihren Computer verwendet?
> Ist das nichts Neues für Sie, wenn Sie ein Passwort verwenden, um Ihren Computer zu starten?
>
> Ich bin gespannt, wie Sie Ihren Computer gestartet haben, bevor dies alles begann.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
> Cristina Ebetiuc
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 0:12
> To: main@techtalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA
>
> Hey.
> No. Instill have problems. He justt can‘t accept the pasword and I have deleted everything and rezenteres it many times. But unfortunately.. :( What could help else?
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
>> Am 29.07.2020 um 09:04 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:
>>
>> Not sure if you were ever able to get past your password misfortune, and even though you were given a few answers that I would see working for your situation, here it is again below just in case.
>>
>> Clear the previous text within a password before typing in your password:
>>
>> 1. Do a select all command of Control+A.
>> 2. Hitting delete will clear everything.
>> 3. Type in your password.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Smiling? <blind7@...>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:05
>> To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA
>>
>> I went down and reread what you initially posted, and if you're actually at a password, where the system is asking you for the password, did you even use a password before all of this?
>>
>> If not Safe Mode? I don't understand what it is that you mean. Didn't you say that you went I'm guessing to msconfig and make it so your computer would boot into Safe Mode right? That's the only reason we're even talking about it, but if you truly weren't actually trying to make it boot into Safe Mode and it's now asking you for a password. Trip trip trippy. Maybe this is all due to that registery file you spoke of. Is that when all of this pretty much started?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
>> Cristina Ebetiuc
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:27
>> To: main@techtalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA
>>
>> I did exactely as you said. It seems not to work. Ok if it is not
>> safe mode what then? Thank you for help
>>
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>
>>>> Am 28.07.2020 um 10:49 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:
>>>
>>> Not sure of what OS it is that you are using, but if you are using Windows10, then just follow the steps below.
>>>
>>> Windows10 machine out of Safe Mode using Command Prompt.
>>>
>>> 1. Open Command Prompt as administrator using the Run Dialogue:
>>> Windows key+R for the Run Dialogue; now type exactly cmd and use the keystroke Control+Shift+Enter to open and run it as admin.
>>>
>>> 2. Type exactly what it is below:
>>> bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot and hit the Enter key. This
>>> will turn off Safe Mode.
>>>
>>> 3. Close the Command Prompt window and reboot, (Windows+X & R for reboot). Your computer should start up back in its normal mode.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
>>> Cristina Ebetiuc
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 0:27
>>> To: main@techtalk.groups.io
>>> Subject: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> I have a big problem.
>>> I think, I have started my pc into safe-mode.  Ihave justt restarted the pc and now it does not say anything. There are only the log-in options on the braille display. When I try to enter the pin it says that there is an error and I can‘t read more because when I try to go a line down with the braille display it just  does nothing. Well and the other problem that the screen courtain is turned on.  ...... Ah and also after I have reseted the Mikrosoft pasword it still says that it is not right. Does anybody have a solving?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Oh and I also did a registry patch inorder for NVDA to function in the safe.mode but now.... well.... I can‘t hear nothing. Well I did not intend to boot into safe.mode. I just think that is the problem......
>>>
>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Problems with pc start and NVDA

Smiling?
 

Haben Sie tatsächlich versucht, Narrator zu starten, während Sie in Ihrem Passwortbereich platziert wurden?
Strg + Windows-Taste + Eingabetaste
Ein- und Ausschalten des Erzählers.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:40
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Ja hallo!
Ja. Ich hahbe immer ein Paswort verwendet. Aber jetzt lässt es der Computer nicht mehr zu, dass ich es eingebe. Er wird immerr alsfalsch annerkannt. Verstehst du? Außerdem ist NVDA eingeschaltet und ich kann es nicht ausschalten. Der Bildschirm ist wegen des Bldschirmvorhang-Addons verdunkelt. Kein Sehender kann mir helfen und NVDA sagt nichts, also ich kann mir auch nicht helfen. Ich kenne mein Paswort ser gut. Ich habe ihn immerr gut eingegeben, aber seit gestern bekomme ich nur die Meldung, dass es falsch ist. Außerdem hat Windows ein Fehlerr beim Laden. Ich war auch in den BIOS-Einstellungen, aber da kann ich auch nichts neues machen. Ich glaube, ich muss Windows neuinstalieren oder?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 11:32 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

This is using Google Translate, this is what I posted a little bit ago in German.

Weißt du, ich bin mir nicht sicher. Also, was machst du? Den Computer herunterfahren? Und starten Sie es Backup und es geht an die Frage nach dem Passwort, oder?

Haben Sie in der Vergangenheit ein Passwort für Ihren Computer verwendet?
Ist das nichts Neues für Sie, wenn Sie ein Passwort verwenden, um Ihren Computer zu starten?

Ich bin gespannt, wie Sie Ihren Computer gestartet haben, bevor dies alles begann.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 0:12
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hey.
No. Instill have problems. He justt can‘t accept the pasword and I have deleted everything and rezenteres it many times. But unfortunately.. :( What could help else?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 09:04 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure if you were ever able to get past your password misfortune, and even though you were given a few answers that I would see working for your situation, here it is again below just in case.

Clear the previous text within a password before typing in your password:

1. Do a select all command of Control+A.
2. Hitting delete will clear everything.
3. Type in your password.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smiling? <blind7@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:05
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I went down and reread what you initially posted, and if you're actually at a password, where the system is asking you for the password, did you even use a password before all of this?

If not Safe Mode? I don't understand what it is that you mean. Didn't you say that you went I'm guessing to msconfig and make it so your computer would boot into Safe Mode right? That's the only reason we're even talking about it, but if you truly weren't actually trying to make it boot into Safe Mode and it's now asking you for a password. Trip trip trippy. Maybe this is all due to that registery file you spoke of. Is that when all of this pretty much started?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I did exactely as you said. It seems not to work. Ok if it is not
safe mode what then? Thank you for help

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 28.07.2020 um 10:49 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:
Not sure of what OS it is that you are using, but if you are using Windows10, then just follow the steps below.

Windows10 machine out of Safe Mode using Command Prompt.

1. Open Command Prompt as administrator using the Run Dialogue:
Windows key+R for the Run Dialogue; now type exactly cmd and use the keystroke Control+Shift+Enter to open and run it as admin.

2. Type exactly what it is below:
bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot and hit the Enter key. This
will turn off Safe Mode.

3. Close the Command Prompt window and reboot, (Windows+X & R for reboot). Your computer should start up back in its normal mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 0:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hi
I have a big problem.
I think, I have started my pc into safe-mode. Ihave justt restarted the pc and now it does not say anything. There are only the log-in options on the braille display. When I try to enter the pin it says that there is an error and I can‘t read more because when I try to go a line down with the braille display it just does nothing. Well and the other problem that the screen courtain is turned on. ...... Ah and also after I have reseted the Mikrosoft pasword it still says that it is not right. Does anybody have a solving?
Thanks.
Oh and I also did a registry patch inorder for NVDA to function in the safe.mode but now.... well.... I can‘t hear nothing. Well I did not intend to boot into safe.mode. I just think that is the problem......

Von meinem iPhone gesendet













Re: Problems with pc start and NVDA

Smiling?
 

Wow, großes Lächeln! Das ist super cool für uns, das erste Mal, dass ich es gemacht habe, was keine große Sache ist, weiß ich, lächelt.
OK, Sie haben in der Vergangenheit regelmäßig ein Passwort verwendet, aber jetzt, aus welchen Gründen auch immer, ist es immer ungenau, von dem Sie wissen,
dass es falsch ist, oder? Wann hat das angefangen?
Ich suche nach einer Möglichkeit, das Passwort zu umgehen, und glaube, ich habe einige würdige Dinge gefunden, die ich ausprobieren kann.
Hast du eine Vision? Ich frage, weil Sie in der Lage sind, in das BIOS zu gehen, wie Sie gesagt haben, oder haben Sie vielleicht Hilfe gesehen?
Dies gibt uns mehr Optionen und nein, ich glaube nicht, dass Windows neu installiert werden muss, aber wenn Sie dies tun möchten, liegt es ganz bei Ihnen,
lächelt. Schön, miteinander zu reden.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:40
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Ja hallo!
Ja. Ich hahbe immer ein Paswort verwendet. Aber jetzt lässt es der Computer nicht mehr zu, dass ich es eingebe. Er wird immerr alsfalsch annerkannt. Verstehst du? Außerdem ist NVDA eingeschaltet und ich kann es nicht ausschalten. Der Bildschirm ist wegen des Bldschirmvorhang-Addons verdunkelt. Kein Sehender kann mir helfen und NVDA sagt nichts, also ich kann mir auch nicht helfen. Ich kenne mein Paswort ser gut. Ich habe ihn immerr gut eingegeben, aber seit gestern bekomme ich nur die Meldung, dass es falsch ist. Außerdem hat Windows ein Fehlerr beim Laden. Ich war auch in den BIOS-Einstellungen, aber da kann ich auch nichts neues machen. Ich glaube, ich muss Windows neuinstalieren oder?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 11:32 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

This is using Google Translate, this is what I posted a little bit ago in German.

Weißt du, ich bin mir nicht sicher. Also, was machst du? Den Computer herunterfahren? Und starten Sie es Backup und es geht an die Frage nach dem Passwort, oder?

Haben Sie in der Vergangenheit ein Passwort für Ihren Computer verwendet?
Ist das nichts Neues für Sie, wenn Sie ein Passwort verwenden, um Ihren Computer zu starten?

Ich bin gespannt, wie Sie Ihren Computer gestartet haben, bevor dies alles begann.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 0:12
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hey.
No. Instill have problems. He justt can‘t accept the pasword and I have deleted everything and rezenteres it many times. But unfortunately.. :( What could help else?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 09:04 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure if you were ever able to get past your password misfortune, and even though you were given a few answers that I would see working for your situation, here it is again below just in case.

Clear the previous text within a password before typing in your password:

1. Do a select all command of Control+A.
2. Hitting delete will clear everything.
3. Type in your password.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smiling? <blind7@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:05
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I went down and reread what you initially posted, and if you're actually at a password, where the system is asking you for the password, did you even use a password before all of this?

If not Safe Mode? I don't understand what it is that you mean. Didn't you say that you went I'm guessing to msconfig and make it so your computer would boot into Safe Mode right? That's the only reason we're even talking about it, but if you truly weren't actually trying to make it boot into Safe Mode and it's now asking you for a password. Trip trip trippy. Maybe this is all due to that registery file you spoke of. Is that when all of this pretty much started?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I did exactely as you said. It seems not to work. Ok if it is not
safe mode what then? Thank you for help

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 28.07.2020 um 10:49 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:
Not sure of what OS it is that you are using, but if you are using Windows10, then just follow the steps below.

Windows10 machine out of Safe Mode using Command Prompt.

1. Open Command Prompt as administrator using the Run Dialogue:
Windows key+R for the Run Dialogue; now type exactly cmd and use the keystroke Control+Shift+Enter to open and run it as admin.

2. Type exactly what it is below:
bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot and hit the Enter key. This
will turn off Safe Mode.

3. Close the Command Prompt window and reboot, (Windows+X & R for reboot). Your computer should start up back in its normal mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 0:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hi
I have a big problem.
I think, I have started my pc into safe-mode. Ihave justt restarted the pc and now it does not say anything. There are only the log-in options on the braille display. When I try to enter the pin it says that there is an error and I can‘t read more because when I try to go a line down with the braille display it just does nothing. Well and the other problem that the screen courtain is turned on. ...... Ah and also after I have reseted the Mikrosoft pasword it still says that it is not right. Does anybody have a solving?
Thanks.
Oh and I also did a registry patch inorder for NVDA to function in the safe.mode but now.... well.... I can‘t hear nothing. Well I did not intend to boot into safe.mode. I just think that is the problem......

Von meinem iPhone gesendet













Re: Problems with pc start and NVDA

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Ja hallo!
Ja. Ich hahbe immer ein Paswort verwendet. Aber jetzt lässt es der Computer nicht mehr zu, dass ich es eingebe. Er wird immerr alsfalsch annerkannt. Verstehst du? Außerdem ist NVDA eingeschaltet und ich kann es nicht ausschalten. Der Bildschirm ist wegen des Bldschirmvorhang-Addons verdunkelt. Kein Sehender kann mir helfen und NVDA sagt nichts, also ich kann mir auch nicht helfen. Ich kenne mein Paswort ser gut. Ich habe ihn immerr gut eingegeben, aber seit gestern bekomme ich nur die Meldung, dass es falsch ist. Außerdem hat Windows ein Fehlerr beim Laden. Ich war auch in den BIOS-Einstellungen, aber da kann ich auch nichts neues machen. Ich glaube, ich muss Windows neuinstalieren oder?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 11:32 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

This is using Google Translate, this is what I posted a little bit ago in German.

Weißt du, ich bin mir nicht sicher. Also, was machst du? Den Computer herunterfahren? Und starten Sie es Backup und es geht an die Frage nach dem Passwort, oder?

Haben Sie in der Vergangenheit ein Passwort für Ihren Computer verwendet?
Ist das nichts Neues für Sie, wenn Sie ein Passwort verwenden, um Ihren Computer zu starten?

Ich bin gespannt, wie Sie Ihren Computer gestartet haben, bevor dies alles begann.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 0:12
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hey.
No. Instill have problems. He justt can‘t accept the pasword and I have deleted everything and rezenteres it many times. But unfortunately... :( What could help else?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 09:04 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure if you were ever able to get past your password misfortune, and even though you were given a few answers that I would see working for your situation, here it is again below just in case.

Clear the previous text within a password before typing in your password:

1. Do a select all command of Control+A.
2. Hitting delete will clear everything.
3. Type in your password.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smiling? <blind7@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:05
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I went down and reread what you initially posted, and if you're actually at a password, where the system is asking you for the password, did you even use a password before all of this?

If not Safe Mode? I don't understand what it is that you mean. Didn't you say that you went I'm guessing to msconfig and make it so your computer would boot into Safe Mode right? That's the only reason we're even talking about it, but if you truly weren't actually trying to make it boot into Safe Mode and it's now asking you for a password. Trip trip trippy. Maybe this is all due to that registery file you spoke of. Is that when all of this pretty much started?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I did exactely as you said. It seems not to work. Ok if it is not safe
mode what then? Thank you for help

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 28.07.2020 um 10:49 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:
Not sure of what OS it is that you are using, but if you are using Windows10, then just follow the steps below.

Windows10 machine out of Safe Mode using Command Prompt.

1. Open Command Prompt as administrator using the Run Dialogue:
Windows key+R for the Run Dialogue; now type exactly cmd and use the keystroke Control+Shift+Enter to open and run it as admin.

2. Type exactly what it is below:
bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot and hit the Enter key. This
will turn off Safe Mode.

3. Close the Command Prompt window and reboot, (Windows+X & R for reboot). Your computer should start up back in its normal mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 0:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hi
I have a big problem.
I think, I have started my pc into safe-mode. Ihave justt restarted the pc and now it does not say anything. There are only the log-in options on the braille display. When I try to enter the pin it says that there is an error and I can‘t read more because when I try to go a line down with the braille display it just does nothing. Well and the other problem that the screen courtain is turned on. ...... Ah and also after I have reseted the Mikrosoft pasword it still says that it is not right. Does anybody have a solving?
Thanks.
Oh and I also did a registry patch inorder for NVDA to function in the safe.mode but now.... well.... I can‘t hear nothing. Well I did not intend to boot into safe.mode. I just think that is the problem......

Von meinem iPhone gesendet













Re: Problems with pc start and NVDA

Smiling?
 

This is using Google Translate, this is what I posted a little bit ago in German.

Weißt du, ich bin mir nicht sicher. Also, was machst du? Den Computer herunterfahren? Und starten Sie es Backup und es geht an die Frage nach dem Passwort, oder?

Haben Sie in der Vergangenheit ein Passwort für Ihren Computer verwendet?
Ist das nichts Neues für Sie, wenn Sie ein Passwort verwenden, um Ihren Computer zu starten?

Ich bin gespannt, wie Sie Ihren Computer gestartet haben, bevor dies alles begann.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 0:12
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hey.
No. Instill have problems. He justt can‘t accept the pasword and I have deleted everything and rezenteres it many times. But unfortunately... :( What could help else?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 09:04 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure if you were ever able to get past your password misfortune, and even though you were given a few answers that I would see working for your situation, here it is again below just in case.

Clear the previous text within a password before typing in your password:

1. Do a select all command of Control+A.
2. Hitting delete will clear everything.
3. Type in your password.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smiling? <blind7@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:05
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I went down and reread what you initially posted, and if you're actually at a password, where the system is asking you for the password, did you even use a password before all of this?

If not Safe Mode? I don't understand what it is that you mean. Didn't you say that you went I'm guessing to msconfig and make it so your computer would boot into Safe Mode right? That's the only reason we're even talking about it, but if you truly weren't actually trying to make it boot into Safe Mode and it's now asking you for a password. Trip trip trippy. Maybe this is all due to that registery file you spoke of. Is that when all of this pretty much started?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I did exactely as you said. It seems not to work. Ok if it is not safe
mode what then? Thank you for help

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 28.07.2020 um 10:49 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure of what OS it is that you are using, but if you are using Windows10, then just follow the steps below.

Windows10 machine out of Safe Mode using Command Prompt.

1. Open Command Prompt as administrator using the Run Dialogue:
Windows key+R for the Run Dialogue; now type exactly cmd and use the keystroke Control+Shift+Enter to open and run it as admin.

2. Type exactly what it is below:
bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot and hit the Enter key. This
will turn off Safe Mode.

3. Close the Command Prompt window and reboot, (Windows+X & R for reboot). Your computer should start up back in its normal mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 0:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hi
I have a big problem.
I think, I have started my pc into safe-mode. Ihave justt restarted the pc and now it does not say anything. There are only the log-in options on the braille display. When I try to enter the pin it says that there is an error and I can‘t read more because when I try to go a line down with the braille display it just does nothing. Well and the other problem that the screen courtain is turned on. ...... Ah and also after I have reseted the Mikrosoft pasword it still says that it is not right. Does anybody have a solving?
Thanks.
Oh and I also did a registry patch inorder for NVDA to function in the safe.mode but now.... well.... I can‘t hear nothing. Well I did not intend to boot into safe.mode. I just think that is the problem......

Von meinem iPhone gesendet









Re: Problems with pc start and NVDA

Smiling?
 

You know, I am not sure. So what do you do? Shut down the computer? And start it backup and it goes to the asking you for the password, right?

Did you use a password in the past for your computer?
Is this nothing new for you, using a password to start your computer?

I am curious as to how you booted into your computer before this all started happening?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 0:12
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hey.
No. Instill have problems. He justt can‘t accept the pasword and I have deleted everything and rezenteres it many times. But unfortunately... :( What could help else?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 09:04 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure if you were ever able to get past your password misfortune, and even though you were given a few answers that I would see working for your situation, here it is again below just in case.

Clear the previous text within a password before typing in your password:

1. Do a select all command of Control+A.
2. Hitting delete will clear everything.
3. Type in your password.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smiling? <blind7@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:05
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I went down and reread what you initially posted, and if you're actually at a password, where the system is asking you for the password, did you even use a password before all of this?

If not Safe Mode? I don't understand what it is that you mean. Didn't you say that you went I'm guessing to msconfig and make it so your computer would boot into Safe Mode right? That's the only reason we're even talking about it, but if you truly weren't actually trying to make it boot into Safe Mode and it's now asking you for a password. Trip trip trippy. Maybe this is all due to that registery file you spoke of. Is that when all of this pretty much started?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I did exactely as you said. It seems not to work. Ok if it is not safe
mode what then? Thank you for help

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 28.07.2020 um 10:49 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure of what OS it is that you are using, but if you are using Windows10, then just follow the steps below.

Windows10 machine out of Safe Mode using Command Prompt.

1. Open Command Prompt as administrator using the Run Dialogue:
Windows key+R for the Run Dialogue; now type exactly cmd and use the keystroke Control+Shift+Enter to open and run it as admin.

2. Type exactly what it is below:
bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot and hit the Enter key. This
will turn off Safe Mode.

3. Close the Command Prompt window and reboot, (Windows+X & R for reboot). Your computer should start up back in its normal mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 0:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hi
I have a big problem.
I think, I have started my pc into safe-mode. Ihave justt restarted the pc and now it does not say anything. There are only the log-in options on the braille display. When I try to enter the pin it says that there is an error and I can‘t read more because when I try to go a line down with the braille display it just does nothing. Well and the other problem that the screen courtain is turned on. ...... Ah and also after I have reseted the Mikrosoft pasword it still says that it is not right. Does anybody have a solving?
Thanks.
Oh and I also did a registry patch inorder for NVDA to function in the safe.mode but now.... well.... I can‘t hear nothing. Well I did not intend to boot into safe.mode. I just think that is the problem......

Von meinem iPhone gesendet









Re: Problems with pc start and NVDA

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Hey.
No. Instill have problems. He justt can‘t accept the pasword and I have deleted everything and rezenteres it many times. But unfortunately.... :(
What could help else?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 29.07.2020 um 09:04 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure if you were ever able to get past your password misfortune, and even though you were given a few answers that I would see working for your situation, here it is again below just in case.

Clear the previous text within a password before typing in your password:

1. Do a select all command of Control+A.
2. Hitting delete will clear everything.
3. Type in your password.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smiling? <blind7@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:05
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I went down and reread what you initially posted, and if you're actually at a password, where the system is asking you for the password, did you even use a password before all of this?

If not Safe Mode? I don't understand what it is that you mean. Didn't you say that you went I'm guessing to msconfig and make it so your computer would boot into Safe Mode right? That's the only reason we're even talking about it, but if you truly weren't actually trying to make it boot into Safe Mode and it's now asking you for a password. Trip trip trippy. Maybe this is all due to that registery file you spoke of. Is that when all of this pretty much started?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I did exactely as you said. It seems not to work. Ok if it is not safe mode what then? Thank you for help

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 28.07.2020 um 10:49 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure of what OS it is that you are using, but if you are using Windows10, then just follow the steps below.

Windows10 machine out of Safe Mode using Command Prompt.

1. Open Command Prompt as administrator using the Run Dialogue:
Windows key+R for the Run Dialogue; now type exactly cmd and use the keystroke Control+Shift+Enter to open and run it as admin.

2. Type exactly what it is below:
bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot and hit the Enter key. This
will turn off Safe Mode.

3. Close the Command Prompt window and reboot, (Windows+X & R for reboot). Your computer should start up back in its normal mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 0:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hi
I have a big problem.
I think, I have started my pc into safe-mode. Ihave justt restarted the pc and now it does not say anything. There are only the log-in options on the braille display. When I try to enter the pin it says that there is an error and I can‘t read more because when I try to go a line down with the braille display it just does nothing. Well and the other problem that the screen courtain is turned on. ...... Ah and also after I have reseted the Mikrosoft pasword it still says that it is not right. Does anybody have a solving?
Thanks.
Oh and I also did a registry patch inorder for NVDA to function in the safe.mode but now.... well.... I can‘t hear nothing. Well I did not intend to boot into safe.mode. I just think that is the problem......

Von meinem iPhone gesendet









Re: Problems with pc start and NVDA

Smiling?
 

Not sure if you were ever able to get past your password misfortune, and even though you were given a few answers that I would see working for your situation, here it is again below just in case.

Clear the previous text within a password before typing in your password:

1. Do a select all command of Control+A.
2. Hitting delete will clear everything.
3. Type in your password.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smiling? <blind7@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:05
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io' <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I went down and reread what you initially posted, and if you're actually at a password, where the system is asking you for the password, did you even use a password before all of this?

If not Safe Mode? I don't understand what it is that you mean. Didn't you say that you went I'm guessing to msconfig and make it so your computer would boot into Safe Mode right? That's the only reason we're even talking about it, but if you truly weren't actually trying to make it boot into Safe Mode and it's now asking you for a password. Trip trip trippy. Maybe this is all due to that registery file you spoke of. Is that when all of this pretty much started?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

I did exactely as you said. It seems not to work. Ok if it is not safe mode what then? Thank you for help

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 28.07.2020 um 10:49 schrieb Smiling? <blind7@...>:

Not sure of what OS it is that you are using, but if you are using Windows10, then just follow the steps below.

Windows10 machine out of Safe Mode using Command Prompt.

1. Open Command Prompt as administrator using the Run Dialogue:
Windows key+R for the Run Dialogue; now type exactly cmd and use the keystroke Control+Shift+Enter to open and run it as admin.

2. Type exactly what it is below:
bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot and hit the Enter key. This
will turn off Safe Mode.

3. Close the Command Prompt window and reboot, (Windows+X & R for reboot). Your computer should start up back in its normal mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 0:27
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Problems with pc start and NVDA

Hi
I have a big problem.
I think, I have started my pc into safe-mode. Ihave justt restarted the pc and now it does not say anything. There are only the log-in options on the braille display. When I try to enter the pin it says that there is an error and I can‘t read more because when I try to go a line down with the braille display it just does nothing. Well and the other problem that the screen courtain is turned on. ...... Ah and also after I have reseted the Mikrosoft pasword it still says that it is not right. Does anybody have a solving?
Thanks.
Oh and I also did a registry patch inorder for NVDA to function in the safe.mode but now.... well.... I can‘t hear nothing. Well I did not intend to boot into safe.mode. I just think that is the problem......

Von meinem iPhone gesendet





Re: Checking On A Disc Drive

Smiling?
 

Go to This PC and highlight the drive, using the keystroke Alt+Enter to go into Properties or, use your Applications key and arrow up once to Properties pressing Enter.

Not sure of what screen reader it is that you are using, but if you were a JAWS user you would need to root JAWS to PC to then see what the Properties said within it. I guess with NVDA it reads this information automatically which a lister said earlier.

At any rate, you would need to see the capacity of the drive, and how much data was actually upon the drive which probably sounds like a lot, but it's truly not.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 14:48
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Checking On A Disc Drive

Using Windows 10, how do you check how full an external drive is? Thanks.


Re: checking cpu temp fan speed/temp and other specifications in windows

Smiling?
 

You would need to use third party software's to accomplish this, just go the internet and search for that and answers will be within the top ten.

The software's most likely will be portable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Ruby
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 16:57
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] checking cpu temp fan speed/temp and other specifications in windows

Hi, what would be a good accessible way using jaws 2020 to check system statistics/status such as cpu temp, fan speed etc?

Thank you. Been ages since I've made changes to this windows 10 box and just don't have the old diagnostic software any more and it would probably be out of date anyway.


Re: How to Backup a Win10 Laptop

Smiling?
 

If a drive says that it’s a 1TB drive then no, it's not going to be larger than 1TB regardless.

It's sounding like from what you wrote, that you are more interested in actually cloning your system. As far as overwriting clones, I would imagine that this is possible, but most of the time you the user, would not want to do that (there are generally exceptions to every rule though).

Not sure of the actual amount of data upon your internal drive, but you probably could get 2 to 5 copies of your internal drive to your external. This is obviously based upon how much data your internal had which you said had not much at all on it.

You might want to truly learn more about backing up and cloning before beginning any of this though. And it's just like anything, there's going to be things that you've never even heard of before and words that you are unfamiliar with etc. the internet is an excellent (as I am sure you are already well aware of) resource of information. This subject matter though is extensive as you are quickly learning.

Don't get me wrong, I will help where I can help, but when/if something ever comes up most likely anyway, there is only going to be you and however many clones etc. which true, a technician could come in and see these clones that you show him or her and they will know (at least should know) how to use them to restore your machine if of course, you for whatever reasons are incapable of doing it for yourself.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nancy Hill
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 14:05
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How to Backup a Win10 Laptop

Oh, the external is totally clean.


Would there be more than 1TB of material in the laptop?


What I have in mind is a total backup that would include win10 and the way it is set up. Hopefully it would include thunderbird and Jaws, but if it did not, I could download them again. I really haven't added much of any programs on the laptop except jaws and TB.


Does a backup write over what was on the laptop the previous time, or does it make another complete and separate backup?


My hope is that each later backup would simply write over and update
what was there from the previous time.


Thanks,

Nancy

On 7/28/2020 2:04 AM, Smiling? wrote:
If that external of yours is clean with nothing on it, then maybe then you could back up your machine to it, but just because you have a 1TB within the laptop doesn't at all mean that you have 1TB worth of data upon it. So it truly comes down to what is it that you have upon your external, and what's the amount of data you have upon your local 1TB SSD?

As far as making a backup every month though, you would most likely want another drive with more capacity.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 22:07
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How to Backup a Win10 Laptop

Hi All,


I have a Lenovo laptop running win 10 and jfw. It has a 1 T SSD. I have a 1 T Western Digital My Passport external hard drive. I would like to backup the entirety of my computer to the external. How do I do that. This is only a personal computer not a business. I would like to update the backup every month or so in case I have some kind of disaster that wipes out my computer


Please help! I don't want to be caught unaware .


Thanks so much for your guidance in this matter.


Nancy







Re: BackUp vs Clone

Smiling?
 

A clone is essentially a bit for bit copy of your drive, 100% identical hence the name clone very similar to you taking a cutting of a plant which genetically is going to be identical to the mother.

A backup can be automated (so can imaging software's as well), but generally is manually copied over whatever specifics the user desires to be backed up. A backup is a copy or more of the same thing.

These both have similarities, but think of a clone as you taking a snapshot of you getting yourself all made up and then you go and get pictures taken of yourself all made up. Now in this fantasy metaphor example, if desired, you can restore yourself to look exactly like the pictures taken back when you were all made up to be literally identical to the snapshots where you put forth whatever efforts to look whichever way you selectively chose to look.

So having such an image/clone just in case something happens to your system, you could take this image and do what is called restore the image. This means that bit for bit, it's going to be identical to the snapshot as whenever it was taken.

A backup, is copies of whatever you selectively chose to backup. So if something was for whatever reasons no longer made to work (audio file, movie, video you have created etc.), you could just copy over the additional copy that you backed up and overwrite it which would make that piece of data work once again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nancy Hill
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 20:01
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] BackUp vs Clone

Everyone,

My laptop is running win10 and one of the latest jaws.


What is the difference between backing up a laptop's hard drive and cloning it?


Thanks,

Nancy


BackUp vs Clone

Nancy Hill
 

Everyone,

My laptop is running win10 and one of the latest jaws.


What is the difference between backing up a laptop's hard drive and cloning it?


Thanks,

Nancy


This week on Eyes On Success: Disability Rights and the ADA

blueskies11
 

This week’s episode of eyes On Success is dedicated to the 30th anniversary of the ADA:

2031 Disability Rights and the ADA (Jul. 29, 2020)
Show Notes
The Americans with Disabilities Act was a pivotal point in codifying the rights which all disabled people are afforded in the U.S. Hosts Nancy and Peter Torpey talk with Tim Elder, a blind disability rights attorney, about the long journey in recognizing the rights of the disabled, developing the current law, and why the journey is not yet done.

 

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Re: In search of smartphone recommendations

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Abbie, Samsung Folder2 does have buttons. It's not widely available in
phone stores, eBay may be your friend if you are planning on getting one.
It runs on Nougat which is Android7.

As for Nokia, ever since Symbian went off to glory land, the company has not
looked back. It was originally a Microsoft acquisition and it produced
touchscreen toys for Windows such as the Lumia. Well, Microsoft DID NOT GET
in the game early enough, Android and iOS stole the show. Microsoft
essentially jettisoned Nokia; Nokia regrouped and, by way of licensure to
HMD, now produces touchscreen toys exclusively in Androidville. Nokia is
slowly, but surely coming back strong in the mid-range Android toy space.
Yes, Nokia toys are still great, but no buttons!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


checking cpu temp fan speed/temp and other specifications in windows

Jim Ruby
 

Hi, what would be a good accessible way using jaws 2020 to check
system statistics/status such as cpu temp, fan speed etc?

Thank you. Been ages since I've made changes to this windows 10 box
and just don't have the old diagnostic software any more and it would
probably be out of date anyway.


Re: In search of smartphone recommendations

Monte Single
 

There was/is a samsund phone with buttons called the Folder 2.

It has buttons and I believe is a smart phone.

 

Do not mistake  this for the newer and really expensive wallet style phone which folds like a wallet, but has no buttons.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: July 28, 2020 4:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] In search of smartphone recommendations

 

David, do any of the Samsung or Nokia phones have buttons, or do they just have touch screens? I'm curious.