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Re: accessible disk imaging software.
can some1 give me their winpe iso?
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i tried everything and cant get narrator to work it starts my sighted help can see it on screen but there is no audio.
On 10/12/20, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@gmail.com> wrote:
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search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3
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Re: edge
g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
That will be sunset and be removed an then most browsers will be eiteh edge,chrome, brave , epic and firefox .
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:16 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] edge
Hi, Are we all forced to used edge now? I know, there are other browsers out there such as brave etc. I guess the better question is ie no longer working? I ask this because on my windows 10 latest and jaws 2020 latest, when launching ie, going to a site it opens in edge.
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Re: email question
chris judge
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: October 20, 2020 1:25 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question
Hi Donald, On 10/19/2020 11:26 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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edge
Kimsan
Hi, Are we all forced to used edge now? I know, there are other browsers out there such as brave etc. I guess the better question is ie no longer working? I ask this because on my windows 10 latest and jaws 2020 latest, when launching ie, going to a site it opens in edge.
Kimsan Song If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA Also, you may follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng
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Re: email question
Ron Canazzi
Hi Donald,
Ask her if she ever used Arctic speech. Boy that one makes Eloquence and most other synthesizers: hardware or software sound like the heavenly choir. On 10/19/2020 11:26 PM, Donald L.
Roberts wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: email question
Donald L. Roberts
Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket. Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence. By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?
Don Roberts
On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez
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That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not. That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about. I hate it. Pam.
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Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics
Gene
I meant to say that if a topic results in too many off topic or divisive posts, I may lock it because it may be unwieldy to moderate if fifty messages come in while I am asleep or am not monitoring the list for some reason.
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Gene
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From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:20 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I did some checking and I see that there is a moderate topic offered by Groups.io. Therefore, if you want to send a message on whatever you wanted to discuss, I'll allow it and moderate the topic if it leads to problems. If a topic results in too many divisive or unreasonably off topic posts, I may moderate it because it might be too unwieldy to try to moderate a topic where perhaps fifty messages come in while I'm asleep or not monitoring the list for some reason. If a thread reaches the point where it is generating a lot of divisive posts and/or off topic posts, usually the important on topic posts have already reached the list. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:07 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I should add that I'll check to see if such a setting is available. I've never looked. If so, that raises interesting possibilities. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:05 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you introdeuce it again. I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread, though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number of years. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more! Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts. I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively, such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic. Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every message. Gene, owner So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?
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Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics
Gene
I did some checking and I see that there is a moderate topic offered by Groups.io. Therefore, if you want to send a message on whatever you wanted to discuss, I'll allow it and moderate the topic if it leads to problems.
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If a topic results in too many divisive or unreasonably off topic posts, I may moderate it because it might be too unwieldy to try to moderate a topic where perhaps fifty messages come in while I'm asleep or not monitoring the list for some reason. If a thread reaches the point where it is generating a lot of divisive posts and/or off topic posts, usually the important on topic posts have already reached the list. Gene
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From: Gene Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:07 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I should add that I'll check to see if such a setting is available. I've never looked. If so, that raises interesting possibilities. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:05 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you introdeuce it again. I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread, though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number of years. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more! Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts. I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively, such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic. Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every message. Gene, owner So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?
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Re: NVDA is improved!
Quentin Christensen
Hi Enes, I know this has come up before, whether you or someone else asked. I was sure we had an issue on GitHub, but I can't find it now. My recollection is that there would need to be more work done than simply changing the output from 32-bit to 64-bit when building NVDA. I believe also that the main benefit of 64-bit software is the access to additional memory, which at this point NVDA does not need. Having video editing software or Excel with large spreadsheets in 64-bit has a clear advantage, but not so much for the screenreader. If you find the issue on our GitHub page I am sure it has more technical information, but my searching skills are failing me just at the moment. Quentin.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:38 PM enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:
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Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics
Gene
I should add that I'll check to see if such a setting is available. I've never looked. If so, that raises interesting possibilities.
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Gene
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From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:05 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you introdeuce it again. I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread, though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number of years. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more! Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts. I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively, such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic. Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every message. Gene, owner So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?
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Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics
Gene
I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you introdeuce it again.
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I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread, though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number of years. Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more! Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts. I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively, such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic. Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every message. Gene, owner So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?
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facebook page
Kimsan
There was a link that was passed around on here when using fb. I no longer have that email, can someone send it?
Kimsan Song If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA Also, you may follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng
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Re: NVDA is Growing up
Ron Canazzi
Hi Quentin,
Bible Seeker is very accessible with JAWS and NVDA. If you download all the add ons (Bible versions) I believe there are 9 in total. On 10/19/2020 10:10 PM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics
Leedy Diane Bomar
I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more!
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Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts. I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively, such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic. Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every message. Gene, owner So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?
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Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics
Gene
there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts.
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I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done. Gene
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From: Leedy Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics Diane Bomar On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively, such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic. Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every message. Gene, owner So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?
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Re: NVDA is improved!
enes sarıbaş
Quentin, another question. I know I might have asked this before, but are
there plans to make NVDA natively 64 bit? Other screen readers
produce 64 bit packages since 2009, and this would enable better
performance on the majority of systems and enable java support
without importing the old accessible bridge DLL.
On 10/19/2020 9:18 PM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
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Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics
Leedy Diane Bomar
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Gene, owner So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others? Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively, such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic. Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every message. Gene, owner
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Re: NVDA is improved!
Quentin Christensen
No problem Ron! If you prefer Jaws (overall or for some tasks) that's absolutely fine - I just wanted to try to find out if there was anything where NVDA was not working well that we could improve on. Whether it is things another screenreader does better, or just something which doesn't work well in general. Quentin.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:16 AM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
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Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA is Growing up
Quentin Christensen
I'm not familiar with the Biblesoft PC Study Bible. Last time someone asked me about accessible Bible software though, I did collate this list from other conversations on the topic. If anyone finds any of these useful (or any which are no longer accessible) or any others not listed here, do please let me know: YouVersion bible: https://www.youversion.com/the-bible-app/ Bible Gateway: https://www.biblegateway.com/ Bible Seeker: https://bible_seeker.en.downloadastro.com/ (apparently the search isn't very accessible though) Theophilos: http://www.theophilos.com/ http://www.optasiaministry.org/ e-Sword: https://www.e-sword.net/ (possibly not completely accessible?) Kind regards Quentin.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:23 AM Dave <dlh007@...> wrote:
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Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Uploading files to Facebook
Sharon S
Hi all, I am a leader of a scout group. The group has a Facebook page which all the families are subscribed to. I have put together a program for the term for my group and now I need to put it up on the Facebook page. I am using the classic Facebook page which was suggested here and using internet Explorer. I know I should be using another browser but I am trying to get this computer ready to give to my mum so don’t want to put new programs on it at the moment. I have been able to write a message and post it to the group but I can’t find a way to upload files. I tried using the photo option and when I went to brows I chose all file types, then I navigated to the file I want to upload and hit enter. The box closed but then the Facebook page said it wasn’t a recognised format. Is there something I am missing? Or do I need to just copy the whole document and paste it into the message box?
Hoping someone can help.
I’m using Jaws 2020 and windows 10.
Thanks. From Shaz. Canberra, Australia.
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