Date   

Re: accessible disk imaging software.

 

can some1 give me their winpe iso?
i tried everything and cant get narrator to work it starts my sighted
help can see it on screen but there is no audio.

On 10/12/20, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@gmail.com> wrote:
Austin,

What I've done with Image for windows for years is have an old spare hard
drive with a bootable operating system and image for windows installed on
it. I thin boot from that spare drive and use a USB to SATA adapter to
connect to original drive in the unit you want to restore to. I've done this
dozens of times over the years with no problem

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Austin
Pinto
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] accessible disk imaging software.

even after adding audio drivers and getting narrator to run at boot there is
no audio.

On 10/7/20, Monte Single <mrsingle@sasktel.net> wrote:
So right.
Sometimes, I get the cats and dogs mixed up.

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Steve Matzura
Sent: October 7, 2020 7:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] accessible disk imaging software.

No, not a disk. An audio tutorial of how to make a disk is what I
will make. You have to make it yourself because it's a very localized
thing.


On 10/6/2020 10:25 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Hi Steve,

Please make a disk.
I think many people could use such a utility.


Cheers,

Monte










--
search for me on facebook, google+, orkut..
austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com
follow me on twitter.
austinmpinto
contact me on skype.
austin.pinto3











--
search for me on facebook, google+, orkut..
austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com
follow me on twitter.
austinmpinto
contact me on skype.
austin.pinto3


Re: edge

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

That will be sunset and be removed an then most browsers will be eiteh edge,chrome, brave , epic and firefox . 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] edge

 

Hi,

Are we all forced to used edge now? I know, there are other browsers out there such as brave etc. I guess the better question is ie no longer working?

I ask this because on my windows 10 latest and jaws 2020 latest, when launching ie, going to a site it opens in edge.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA

Also, you may follow me on twitter:

https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

 


Re: email question

chris judge
 

Wow, I remember Artic, those were the days.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: October 20, 2020 1:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

 

Hi Donald,

Ask her if she ever used Arctic speech.  Boy that one makes Eloquence and most other synthesizers: hardware or software sound like the heavenly choir.

On 10/19/2020 11:26 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket.  Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence.  By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?

 

Don Roberts

 

On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not.  That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about.  I hate it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi, I don't know about personally running out of breath with one of these
messages. However, I have had jaws sounding like he needs to take a breath
in one of those sort of messages. It is quite funny and you can almost hear
him taking a deep breath at the end of the message.


From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2020 2:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle.  The messages that make me
laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any
punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you
have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air
lasts through the whole message.  At the end you can actually hear yourself
gasping for breath.  It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."












-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


edge

Kimsan
 

Hi,

Are we all forced to used edge now? I know, there are other browsers out there such as brave etc. I guess the better question is ie no longer working?

I ask this because on my windows 10 latest and jaws 2020 latest, when launching ie, going to a site it opens in edge.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA

Also, you may follow me on twitter:

https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

 


Re: email question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Donald,

Ask her if she ever used Arctic speech.  Boy that one makes Eloquence and most other synthesizers: hardware or software sound like the heavenly choir.


On 10/19/2020 11:26 PM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket.  Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence.  By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?


Don Roberts


On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not.  That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about.  I hate it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi, I don't know about personally running out of breath with one of these
messages. However, I have had jaws sounding like he needs to take a breath
in one of those sort of messages. It is quite funny and you can almost hear
him taking a deep breath at the end of the message.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2020 2:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle.  The messages that make me
laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any
punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you
have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air
lasts through the whole message.  At the end you can actually hear yourself
gasping for breath.  It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."












-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: email question

Donald L. Roberts
 

Pam, It is a darn shame that you never used an Echo Cricket.  Had you done so, you would have a much greater appreciation for Eloquence.  By the way, did you ever use an Accent Pc or an Accent S A?


Don Roberts


On 10/19/2020 9:49 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
That is if you use eloquence, whether you are using jaws, or not.  That's one of the things I hate about the beloved eloquence everybody speaks so lovingly about.  I hate it.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Sharon S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi, I don't know about personally running out of breath with one of these
messages. However, I have had jaws sounding like he needs to take a breath
in one of those sort of messages. It is quite funny and you can almost hear
him taking a deep breath at the end of the message.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Parsons
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2020 2:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email question

Hi all,

Yes, Siri is notorious for this kind of debacle.  The messages that make me
laugh the most are the ones where the person dictating doesn't voice any
punctuation marks and you get a long email where in order to read it you
have to take a deep breath, and then, start speaking and hope that your air
lasts through the whole message.  At the end you can actually hear yourself
gasping for breath.  It's a complete hoot!

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."












Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

Gene
 

I meant to say that if a topic results in too many off topic or divisive posts, I may lock it because it may be unwieldy to moderate if fifty messages come in while I am asleep or am not monitoring the list for some reason.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

I did some checking and I see that there is a moderate topic offered by
Groups.io. Therefore, if you want to send a message on whatever you wanted
to discuss, I'll allow it and moderate the topic if it leads to problems.

If a topic results in too many divisive or unreasonably off topic posts, I
may moderate it because it might be too unwieldy to try to moderate a topic
where perhaps fifty messages come in while I'm asleep or not monitoring the
list for some reason. If a thread reaches the point where it is generating
a lot of divisive posts and/or off topic posts, usually the important on
topic posts have already reached the list.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I should add that I'll check to see if such a setting is available. I've
never looked. If so, that raises interesting possibilities.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see
the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure
what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if
I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you
introdeuce it again.

I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread,
though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific
members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a
list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that
specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread
develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly
divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results
in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this
unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when
the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its
just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and
peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is
generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding
staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two
threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number
of years.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel
like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I
reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted
answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without
locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to
participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts
off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a
very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though
unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more!

Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a
thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what
sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told
people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell
people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and
a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully
disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread
yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to
how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours
later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job
of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts.

I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A
lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best
that can be done.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics



Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't
following the list for a few hours.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved
into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of
accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare
times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively,
such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people
don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic.
Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on
the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every
message.

Gene, owner








So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to
messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair
to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back.
How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my
thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put
into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who
cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread
being penalized for the misdeeds of others?


Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

Gene
 

I did some checking and I see that there is a moderate topic offered by Groups.io. Therefore, if you want to send a message on whatever you wanted to discuss, I'll allow it and moderate the topic if it leads to problems.

If a topic results in too many divisive or unreasonably off topic posts, I may moderate it because it might be too unwieldy to try to moderate a topic where perhaps fifty messages come in while I'm asleep or not monitoring the list for some reason. If a thread reaches the point where it is generating a lot of divisive posts and/or off topic posts, usually the important on topic posts have already reached the list.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

I should add that I'll check to see if such a setting is available. I've
never looked. If so, that raises interesting possibilities.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see
the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure
what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if
I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you
introdeuce it again.

I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread,
though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific
members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a
list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that
specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread
develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly
divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results
in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this
unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when
the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its
just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and
peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is
generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding
staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two
threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number
of years.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel
like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I
reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted
answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without
locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to
participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts
off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a
very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though
unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more!

Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a
thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what
sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told
people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell
people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and
a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully
disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread
yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to
how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours
later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job
of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts.

I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A
lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best
that can be done.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics



Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't
following the list for a few hours.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved
into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of
accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare
times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively,
such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people
don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic.
Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on
the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every
message.

Gene, owner








So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to
messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair
to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back.
How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my
thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put
into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who
cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread
being penalized for the misdeeds of others?


Re: NVDA is improved!

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Enes,

I know this has come up before, whether you or someone else asked.  I was sure we had an issue on GitHub, but I can't find it now.

My recollection is that there would need to be more work done than simply changing the output from 32-bit to 64-bit when building NVDA.  I believe also that the main benefit of 64-bit software is the access to additional memory, which at this point NVDA does not need.  Having video editing software or Excel with large spreadsheets in 64-bit has a clear advantage, but not so much for the screenreader.  If you find the issue on our GitHub page I am sure it has more technical information, but my searching skills are failing me just at the moment.

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:38 PM enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:

Quentin,

another question. I know I might have asked this before, but are there plans to make NVDA natively 64 bit? Other screen readers produce 64 bit packages since 2009, and this would enable better performance on the majority of systems and  enable java support without importing the old accessible bridge DLL.

On 10/19/2020 9:18 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
No problem Ron!

If you prefer Jaws (overall or for some tasks) that's absolutely fine - I just wanted to try to find out if there was anything where NVDA was not working well that we could improve on.  Whether it is things another screenreader does better, or just something which doesn't work well in general.

Quentin.


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:16 AM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Quenton,

I use Excel and Access for databases to a degree.  I have to use a lot of the screen review keystrokes and maneuvers to get to buttons and menus to initiate functions.
Maybe this is Office related, but that's what I experience.


On 10/19/2020 3:47 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Thanks everyone for your lovely comments.

Ron, out of curiosity, what does NVDA not work well with in Office?  There are a couple of isolated issues in PowerPoint and I'm not sure about Access, but otherwise, most of the issues in Office are issues with Office itself.

Enes,

Most times, when an issue takes a long time to be resolved, it is either because it is hard to reproduce, or hard to fix.  In some cases, problems only occur on particular hardware, or with certain other software (or versions of software) installed.  Unless an NVDA developer has that particular setup, it can sometimes be hard to diagnose.

NVDA does a number of things differently to other screenreaders.  In some cases, the end user wouldn't notice a difference .  In some cases, it has given NVDA an advantage - NVDA worked well with Windows 10 and the original Microsoft Edge, long before any other screenreader for instance.  In some cases, it goes the other way.  Something which a user might complain "just works" with another screenreader, simply can't be done in NVDA without a large amount of work.

In any case, I'm glad to hear it has improved in NVDA 2020.3!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:55 AM enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:
Ok what I am about to say  might make some folks angry but. Why did it
take so long  to fix NVDA and microsoft word lag issues? This has been
an issue ever since  I used Microsoft office,  with NVDA, and my tickets
that I opened about it, I was told it was just my computer and not the
fault of NVDA. Do I need a xeon or threadripper processor to run
microsoft word with NVDA?
On 10/18/2020 6:31 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> NVDA works great in Zoom, announces all the buttons and menus and so on.
>
> Ann P.
>







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

Gene
 

I should add that I'll check to see if such a setting is available. I've never looked. If so, that raises interesting possibilities.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 10:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see
the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure
what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if
I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you
introdeuce it again.

I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread,
though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific
members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a
list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that
specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread
develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly
divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results
in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this
unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when
the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its
just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and
peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is
generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding
staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two
threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number
of years.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel
like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I
reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted
answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without
locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to
participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts
off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a
very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though
unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more!

Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a
thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what
sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told
people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell
people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and
a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully
disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread
yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to
how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours
later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job
of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts.

I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A
lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best
that can be done.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics



Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't
following the list for a few hours.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other
topics

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved
into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of
accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare
times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively,
such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people
don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic.
Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on
the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every
message.

Gene, owner








So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to
messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair
to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back.
How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my
thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put
into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who
cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread
being penalized for the misdeeds of others?


Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

Gene
 

I don't know who started the thread and it doesn't matter. If you don't see the logic of what I did and that it isn't personal, I'm sorry. I'm not sure what you wanted to discuss. If you tell me what it is, I'll let you know if I think it will start a divisive and largely off topic thread if you introdeuce it again.

I haven't looked into whether a list owner can moderate just one thread, though I don't recall any such setting. A llist owner can moderate specific members requiring approval for all their messages but as far as I know, a list owner can't pick a specific thread and say that all messages to that specific thread will be moderated. That being the case, if a thread develops that leads to a lot of possibly divisive comments and possibly divisive arguments, the thread should be stopped. Also, if a thread results in a lot of such traffic, many people will not want to have all this unwanted mail. While people can mute topics, they may not be around when the thread is in progress or they may not know how to mute threads. its just bad for a list for a list owner not to exert control for the order and peace of the list. I seldom do so or have to do so because the list is generally very well behaved, with people following the rules regarding staying reasonably on topic and civility. I may have blocked perhaps two threads, maybe three, since I've been owner and that has been for a number of years.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:49 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more!

Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts.

I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics



Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved
into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of
accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare
times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively,
such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people
don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic.
Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on
the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every
message.

Gene, owner








So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?


facebook page

Kimsan
 

There was a link that was passed around on here when using fb. I no longer have that email, can someone send it?

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

If you are into HipHop or R&B, I invite you to subscribe to my youtube artist channel at

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFzrNcgBfHguK-LnnJMMylA

Also, you may follow me on twitter:

https://twitter.com/kims4ns0ng

 


Re: NVDA is Growing up

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Quentin,

Bible Seeker is very accessible with JAWS and NVDA.
If you download all the add ons (Bible versions) I believe there are 9 in total.


On 10/19/2020 10:10 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I'm not familiar with the Biblesoft PC Study Bible.  Last time someone asked me about accessible Bible software though, I did collate this list from other conversations on the topic.  If anyone finds any of these useful (or any which are no longer accessible) or any others not listed here, do please let me know:

YouVersion bible: https://www.youversion.com/the-bible-app/  
Bible Gateway: https://www.biblegateway.com/
Bible Seeker: https://bible_seeker.en.downloadastro.com/ (apparently the search isn't very accessible though)
Theophilos: http://www.theophilos.com/
http://www.optasiaministry.org/
e-Sword: https://www.e-sword.net/ (possibly not completely accessible?)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:23 AM Dave <dlh007@...> wrote:

The Program that NVDA does not read well is called PC Study Bible, made by Biblesoft.


It been around sine the late 1980's, and is still around today. 


NVDA reads a lot of things, but for some reason, does not read the window where the Text from the Bible and all other Reference Books are displayed. 


NVDA reads most other areas in the program better than Jaws, but these main display windows within this program, for what ever reason, are not read. 


It's been a while, but I think these windows can be read by using the Mouse, which doesn't help when trying to do any sort of research.


Grumpy Dave


On 10/18/2020 10:14 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Thanks Dave!

Out of curiosity, what is the one program you use all the time which Jaws works better with?  Just so I can make sure we have issues captured on our issue tracker.  (If you'd like, you are most welcome to record any issues directly on https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:37 AM Dave <dlh007@...> wrote:
Yes, I too now use NVDA probably 80 percent of the time.  Still have
JAWS, and probably will have since the yearly upgrades are not super
expensive.


JAWS still reads one program I use all the time better than NVDA.


But to Write emails and do other things, I find NVDA works quite well.


I use Excel, and NVDA works better for me than JAWS.


Especially if you are creating Spread Sheets and writing Formulas.


NVDA has been on my System for a number of years now, mostly used in
case Window Eyes, or then Jaws might fail.  In the last year, I started
having issues with JAWS, and their Tech people couldn't figure out the
problem, so NVDA has become my Go To Screen Reader program for the daily
stuff.


I use the voice named David.


Grumpy Dave










--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

Leedy Diane Bomar
 

I post infrequently, and will start threads even less often, now. I feel like unsubscribing to all lists, right now! How do you suggest that I reinstate my thread? There was some good discussion on the topic I wanted answers and support for. Moderators can easily delete messages without locking a thread. I feel very kicked in the face! Why bother trying to participate with others, be part of any group, when the "leader" just cuts off anything you might come out of your shell long enough to share! I live a very independent, though reclusive, life, and your actions, though unintentional, only encourage me to cut myself off from the world even more!

Diane Bomar

On Oct 19, 2020, at 20:39, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts.

I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics



Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved
into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of
accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare
times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively,
such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people
don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic.
Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on
the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every
message.

Gene, owner








So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?


Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

Gene
 

there is no way to know on a list with a large number of members where a thread will go. {People read threads at different times and who knows what sort of responses and arguments might have developed even if I had just told people to stay on topic. I see it all the time. A list owner may tell people to stay on topic or try to control a potentially devisive thread and a lot of people respond anyway, not because they are being willfully disobedient, but because they haven't read all the messages in the thread yet and are replying as they go. Who knows how many people will reply to how many messages before they finally see my message. Who knows hours later, how many other people will do the same thing. At some point, the job of a list owner is to stop off topic and potentially divisive posts.

I said that anyone who wants may carry on the discussion on the chat list. A lot of list members don't join associated chat lists, but that is the best that can be done.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:48 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics



Diane Bomar
On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved
into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of
accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare
times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively,
such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people
don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic.
Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on
the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every
message.

Gene, owner








So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?


Re: NVDA is improved!

enes sarıbaş
 

Quentin,

another question. I know I might have asked this before, but are there plans to make NVDA natively 64 bit? Other screen readers produce 64 bit packages since 2009, and this would enable better performance on the majority of systems and  enable java support without importing the old accessible bridge DLL.

On 10/19/2020 9:18 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
No problem Ron!

If you prefer Jaws (overall or for some tasks) that's absolutely fine - I just wanted to try to find out if there was anything where NVDA was not working well that we could improve on.  Whether it is things another screenreader does better, or just something which doesn't work well in general.

Quentin.


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:16 AM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Quenton,

I use Excel and Access for databases to a degree.  I have to use a lot of the screen review keystrokes and maneuvers to get to buttons and menus to initiate functions.
Maybe this is Office related, but that's what I experience.


On 10/19/2020 3:47 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Thanks everyone for your lovely comments.

Ron, out of curiosity, what does NVDA not work well with in Office?  There are a couple of isolated issues in PowerPoint and I'm not sure about Access, but otherwise, most of the issues in Office are issues with Office itself.

Enes,

Most times, when an issue takes a long time to be resolved, it is either because it is hard to reproduce, or hard to fix.  In some cases, problems only occur on particular hardware, or with certain other software (or versions of software) installed.  Unless an NVDA developer has that particular setup, it can sometimes be hard to diagnose.

NVDA does a number of things differently to other screenreaders.  In some cases, the end user wouldn't notice a difference .  In some cases, it has given NVDA an advantage - NVDA worked well with Windows 10 and the original Microsoft Edge, long before any other screenreader for instance.  In some cases, it goes the other way.  Something which a user might complain "just works" with another screenreader, simply can't be done in NVDA without a large amount of work.

In any case, I'm glad to hear it has improved in NVDA 2020.3!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:55 AM enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:
Ok what I am about to say  might make some folks angry but. Why did it
take so long  to fix NVDA and microsoft word lag issues? This has been
an issue ever since  I used Microsoft office,  with NVDA, and my tickets
that I opened about it, I was told it was just my computer and not the
fault of NVDA. Do I need a xeon or threadripper processor to run
microsoft word with NVDA?
On 10/18/2020 6:31 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> NVDA works great in Zoom, announces all the buttons and menus and so on.
>
> Ann P.
>







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

Leedy Diane Bomar
 

message.

Gene, owner








So, because people cannot stay on topic, I am now unable to reply to messages in that thread that were on topic? Somehow that doesn't seem fair to me the original poster. I have tried to reply and the mail bounces back. How can I communicate with others who were writing good responses to my thread? I have deleted the inappropriate responses that should have been put into another thread, or deleted from the list, and the individuals who cannot stay on topic should be reprimanded. Why is the author of the thread being penalized for the misdeeds of others?



Diane Bomar

On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should add that I would have locked the topic sooner but I wasn't following the list for a few hours.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Admin. the discussion about accessibility and other topics

this topic is taking a lot of time and space on the list. It has also moved
into areas such as politics. While a certain amount of discussion of
accessibility as an issue, and I even let a little politics slip in at rare
times if it is a very small part of a larger thread, keeps the list lively,
such wide ranging discussions easily become divisive and a lot of people
don't want to see so much traffic. I am therefore closing the topic.
Anyone who wishes may discuss this issue and pretty much anything else on
the chat list, the address for joining is provided in the footers of every
message.

Gene, owner


Re: NVDA is improved!

Quentin Christensen
 

No problem Ron!

If you prefer Jaws (overall or for some tasks) that's absolutely fine - I just wanted to try to find out if there was anything where NVDA was not working well that we could improve on.  Whether it is things another screenreader does better, or just something which doesn't work well in general.

Quentin.


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:16 AM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Quenton,

I use Excel and Access for databases to a degree.  I have to use a lot of the screen review keystrokes and maneuvers to get to buttons and menus to initiate functions.
Maybe this is Office related, but that's what I experience.


On 10/19/2020 3:47 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Thanks everyone for your lovely comments.

Ron, out of curiosity, what does NVDA not work well with in Office?  There are a couple of isolated issues in PowerPoint and I'm not sure about Access, but otherwise, most of the issues in Office are issues with Office itself.

Enes,

Most times, when an issue takes a long time to be resolved, it is either because it is hard to reproduce, or hard to fix.  In some cases, problems only occur on particular hardware, or with certain other software (or versions of software) installed.  Unless an NVDA developer has that particular setup, it can sometimes be hard to diagnose.

NVDA does a number of things differently to other screenreaders.  In some cases, the end user wouldn't notice a difference .  In some cases, it has given NVDA an advantage - NVDA worked well with Windows 10 and the original Microsoft Edge, long before any other screenreader for instance.  In some cases, it goes the other way.  Something which a user might complain "just works" with another screenreader, simply can't be done in NVDA without a large amount of work.

In any case, I'm glad to hear it has improved in NVDA 2020.3!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:55 AM enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:
Ok what I am about to say  might make some folks angry but. Why did it
take so long  to fix NVDA and microsoft word lag issues? This has been
an issue ever since  I used Microsoft office,  with NVDA, and my tickets
that I opened about it, I was told it was just my computer and not the
fault of NVDA. Do I need a xeon or threadripper processor to run
microsoft word with NVDA?
On 10/18/2020 6:31 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> NVDA works great in Zoom, announces all the buttons and menus and so on.
>
> Ann P.
>







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA is Growing up

Quentin Christensen
 

I'm not familiar with the Biblesoft PC Study Bible.  Last time someone asked me about accessible Bible software though, I did collate this list from other conversations on the topic.  If anyone finds any of these useful (or any which are no longer accessible) or any others not listed here, do please let me know:

YouVersion bible: https://www.youversion.com/the-bible-app/  
Bible Gateway: https://www.biblegateway.com/
Bible Seeker: https://bible_seeker.en.downloadastro.com/ (apparently the search isn't very accessible though)
Theophilos: http://www.theophilos.com/
http://www.optasiaministry.org/
e-Sword: https://www.e-sword.net/ (possibly not completely accessible?)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:23 AM Dave <dlh007@...> wrote:

The Program that NVDA does not read well is called PC Study Bible, made by Biblesoft.


It been around sine the late 1980's, and is still around today. 


NVDA reads a lot of things, but for some reason, does not read the window where the Text from the Bible and all other Reference Books are displayed. 


NVDA reads most other areas in the program better than Jaws, but these main display windows within this program, for what ever reason, are not read. 


It's been a while, but I think these windows can be read by using the Mouse, which doesn't help when trying to do any sort of research.


Grumpy Dave


On 10/18/2020 10:14 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Thanks Dave!

Out of curiosity, what is the one program you use all the time which Jaws works better with?  Just so I can make sure we have issues captured on our issue tracker.  (If you'd like, you are most welcome to record any issues directly on https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:37 AM Dave <dlh007@...> wrote:
Yes, I too now use NVDA probably 80 percent of the time.  Still have
JAWS, and probably will have since the yearly upgrades are not super
expensive.


JAWS still reads one program I use all the time better than NVDA.


But to Write emails and do other things, I find NVDA works quite well.


I use Excel, and NVDA works better for me than JAWS.


Especially if you are creating Spread Sheets and writing Formulas.


NVDA has been on my System for a number of years now, mostly used in
case Window Eyes, or then Jaws might fail.  In the last year, I started
having issues with JAWS, and their Tech people couldn't figure out the
problem, so NVDA has become my Go To Screen Reader program for the daily
stuff.


I use the voice named David.


Grumpy Dave










--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Uploading files to Facebook

Sharon S
 

Hi all, I am a leader of a scout group. The group has a Facebook page which all the families are subscribed to. I have put together a program for the term for my group and now I need to put it up on the Facebook page. I am using the classic Facebook page which was suggested here and using internet Explorer. I know I should be using another browser but I am trying to get this computer ready to give to my mum so don’t want to put new programs on it at the moment. I have been able to write a message and post it to the group but I can’t find a way to upload files. I tried using the photo option and when I went to brows I chose all file types, then I navigated to the file I want to upload and hit enter. The box closed but then the Facebook page said it wasn’t a recognised format. Is there something I am missing? Or do I need to just copy the whole document and paste it into the message box?

 

Hoping someone can help.

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and windows 10.

 

Thanks.

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

2781 - 2800 of 96401