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Re: web browsers and windows 10

Dave
 

I use Brave, and it is very responsive.  I also use Firefox when for what ever reason, Brave doesn't read a given web site well.  This doesn't happen all that often, but I have seen a difference in the way Brave does things and Firefox does the same thing. 


But, I use Brave most of the time.


Grumpy Dave



On 8/4/2020 7:06 AM, Shirley Healy wrote:
Is there a good browser to use with windows 10? I am using internet explorer, but its very slow. Anyone know an accessible browser with jaws 2020 and win 10? And if I am removing IE or updating it then how do I go about it?
shirley

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Re: Lessons, Free of Paid for?

heather albright
 

I join list to learn what I need to know. And I am greatful for all the free lessons on both the jaws users list and the apple list. I try to copy the free posted lessons and put them in a computer file separating them between the pc and apple files. I have a list of what I need to know for both my google home and my echo speakers.
I do like it when one can learn from someone who uses accessible tec. It is nice to learn how to do something with someone who uses say jaws or NVDA instead, of you need to click here or just drag and drop it here! cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 4:08 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Lessons, Free of Paid for?


One more thought abut lessons designed for the sighted masses-


There are those times when you are going through a lesson, and it seems
that all is well. they are teaching, you are learning, and all is
actually working out without some big hairy Problem popping up to make
the lesson that much more difficult.


I hate it when I am following along, and then suddenly, they tell me I
should see such and such, and I see something entirely different!


then my Brain goes into why did this happen mode!


am I using the same exactly versions of Windows, or the software? Am I
just missing what I should see because my Screen Reader is not picking
it up? Have I some how missed a step?


How old are these lessons? Are they current enough?


I then reverse myself, and go back, and start that lesson over, just
encase it is me who turned left when I should have turned right.


And when I end up with my same original result, and mine is different
than what they say I should have, this is when I dearly wish I had a One
on One instructor, or a List, or a Forum to post my derailment, in hopes
of having someone get me back on track.


Personally, I can't afford every subject I would love to learn more
about. So I spend a lot of time on Youtube, and on Web Sites that
hopefully will give me the info I need to progress forward instead of
getting stalled, or stopped.



Good Luck in your Quest


Grumpy Dave


Re: Free or paid learning?

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Sharon wrote in part:

"I'm curious about how most of us would want to learn technology. Would you
prefer to glean free resources, or would it be better to get paid tutorials
and training?"

Difficult question to answer. I think that most of the answers will be
subjective. Each individual must necessarily do that which makes such a one
more comfortable with the learning process.

For me, I take joy in tinkering, making my trillion mistakes and then
figuring out ways to fix whatever problems I create. It can be daunting,
time-consuming, but I'm never in a hurry and I'm not seeking to join any
number of gurus for a talent show. When I do get stuck, I ask questions
either in this space, or use some other source to get myself back on the
right track. For instance, I have not migrated to Windows10 yet; a part of
me DOES NOT WISH TO; why? Because I want to DITCH WINDOWS and KEEP RUNNING
with My Shiny Android Toys! I took that decision following the death of my
preferred Windows screen reader, Window-Eyes! I'm getting much more done
lately with My Shiny Android Toys and the push towards Windows10 has no real
effect on me. If secondary work causes me to migrate to Windows10 for a
while, I believe I am equal to the challenge.

I always check things out in the mainstream first before giving anythought
to specialized anything for the blind. If, for instance, there is no free
tutorial on a subject I am investigating, but such a tutorial is available
in the mainstream at a price point I feel comfortable with, then I'll buy
the needed tutorial from the mainstream. No doubt there are brilliant minds
amongst us who produce great tutorials; I have not liked the price points on
most of these and so I leave well alone.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: web browsers and windows 10

David Goldfield
 

Shirley,

Since you're using JAWS I would recommend a Chromium-based browser such as Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge (the newer one) or Brave. I would advise not using IE.

On 8/4/2020 10:06 AM, Shirley Healy wrote:
Is there a good browser to use with windows 10? I am using internet explorer, but its very slow. Anyone know an accessible browser with jaws 2020 and win 10? And if I am removing IE or updating it then how do I go about it?
shirley

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Lessons, Free of Paid for?

Dave
 

One more thought abut lessons designed for the sighted masses-


There are those times when you are going through a lesson, and it seems
that all is well.  they are teaching, you are learning, and all is
actually working out without some big hairy Problem popping up to make
the lesson that much more difficult.


I hate it when I am following along, and then suddenly, they tell me I
should see such and such, and I see something entirely different!


then my Brain goes into why did this happen mode!


am I using the same exactly versions of Windows, or the software?  Am I
just missing what I should see because my Screen Reader is not picking
it up?  Have I some how missed a step?


How old are these lessons?  Are they current enough?


I then reverse myself, and go back, and start that lesson over, just
encase it is me who turned left when I should have turned right.


And when I end up with my same original result, and mine is different
than what they say I should have, this is when I dearly wish I had a One
on One instructor, or a List, or a Forum to post my derailment, in hopes
of having someone get me back on track.


Personally, I can't afford every subject I would love to learn more
about.  So I spend a lot of time on Youtube, and on Web Sites that
hopefully will give me the info I need to progress forward instead of
getting stalled, or stopped.



Good Luck in your Quest


Grumpy Dave


Re: Free or paid learning?

Pamela Dominguez
 

I only work well with one-on-one training. I need the person to make sure I got it right. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 10:30 AM
To: Techtalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Free or paid learning?

Hi,


I'm curious about how most of us would want to learn technology. Would
you prefer to glean free resources, or would it be better to get paid
tutorials and training? Any feedback would be much appreciated.


Thanks,






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Re: web browsers and windows 10

Wendy Walker
 

I use Chrome, Microsoft Edge, and Firefox on rare occasions. Some
sites work differently on different browsers so you may use one
browser for most sites but it is likely you will need to use a
different one sometimes.

On 8/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Do not forget about brave! It is a simplar version of google chrome and more

secure too! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@...>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] web browsers and windows 10


Hi all,

Use Chrome or Firefox.

Don't worry about MSIE, just make Chrome or FF the default and you'll be
fine.

Ann P.

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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
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Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."






Re: web browsers and windows 10

heather albright
 

Do not forget about brave! It is a simplar version of google chrome and more secure too! cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@...>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] web browsers and windows 10


Hi all,

Use Chrome or Firefox.

Don't worry about MSIE, just make Chrome or FF the default and you'll be fine.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Free or paid learning?

Monte Single
 

I use free resources where and when I can.
Sometimes I pay for products.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Hooley
Sent: August 4, 2020 8:30 AM
To: Techtalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Free or paid learning?

Hi,


I'm curious about how most of us would want to learn technology. Would you prefer to glean free resources, or would it be better to get paid tutorials and training? Any feedback would be much appreciated.


Thanks,


Re: web browsers and windows 10

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Use Chrome or Firefox.

Don't worry about MSIE, just make Chrome or FF the default and you'll be fine.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Free or paid learning?

Gene
 

The underlying question may be whether the free resources are as good and comprehensive as the paid ones. I don't think there is an answer. Some resources are better and more comprehensive than others.

I would expect that free resources tend to concentrate on teaching smaller topics such as how to use a program. I would also suspect that paid material, while some of it would be such material, would be more likely to include comprehensive teaching such as a guide to Windows 10 or a guide teaching the various skills needed for effective Internet navigation or a comprehensive instruction in Microsoft Word, a program that is complex enough that I would think being paid would provide motivation to teach such a complex subject.

I've prepared a tutorial and I've done many presentations for accessible world. It takes a lot of time and work to produce good material. My guess is that it takes me somewwhere between three and four hours to produce a well done hour presentation. I'm willing to d that for free but my time and effort is worth something and spending perhaps twenty or thirty hours or more in creating a comprehensive tutorial on Internet use, for example, is something I wouldn't do for free. I suspect a lot of other creators of material feel more or less similar.

As far as paid training is concerned, different people learn in different ways. Also, some people might really benefit from paid training at the outset but with enough knowledge and experience, they may learn on their own after that using material like tutorials.
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 9:30 AM
To: Techtalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Free or paid learning?

Hi,


I'm curious about how most of us would want to learn technology. Would
you prefer to glean free resources, or would it be better to get paid
tutorials and training? Any feedback would be much appreciated.


Thanks,


NVDA and Netflix subtitles but also someRegarding using NVDA with Netflix, MS word and acapella voices

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Hi

  1. How can I make NVDA read Netflix subtitles?
  2. How can I make the formating heading Level 4 to 6 in MS Word? The Standard alt + 4 and so on do not work. Only alt + 1, + 2 or + 3.
  3.  The Acapela Voices do not read everything when presssing NVDA+down errow. It stopps after few paragraphs, when beeing into lists or graphix, or when coming to the next heading. Is there a solving?
  4. Greetings and Thanks in advance

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 


Free or paid learning?

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi,


I'm curious about how most of us would want to learn technology. Would you prefer to glean free resources, or would it be better to get paid tutorials and training?  Any feedback would be much appreciated.


Thanks,


web browsers and windows 10

Shirley Healy
 

Is there a good browser to use with windows 10? I am using internet explorer, but its very slow. Anyone know an accessible browser with jaws 2020 and win 10? And if I am removing IE or updating it then how do I go about it?
shirley

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: can you set up a Gmail account on the same computer this a pop3 account too?

Abbie Taylor
 

Jim, I also find your message confusing, but I'll tell you this. Your friends are right about gmail. The nice thing about it is that it can be set up on most email programs without too much difficulty. That having been said, with Outlook, I had to call the Microsoft Disability Assistance folks for help in setting it up with my gmail account. Now, except for a few minor idiosyncracies, it works pretty well.
 
I also feel that IMAP is better than POP3, especially if you use email on more than one device. Otherwise, your messages won't be synced across devices. So, messages you delete from one device will show up on the others. I hope that helps. 
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eSight 4

Carrie Morales
 

Hi Everyone,

The eSight 4 was just released on Tuesday, July 28th. It’s a wearable low vision device – like a wearable CCTV that you wear on your head. Not sure how many people here have low vision, but if you’re interested in learning about it, I did a review on it and show how it works. 😊 https://youtu.be/QiCZc24ufCU

Cheers,

 

 

Carrie Morales

Live Accessible

Website | YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

 

 

 

 

 


Slowed In Thunderbird

lynn white
 

I would appreciate any help with this problem.

Whenever I am reading mail in Thunderbird, my computer is paralyzed whenever new mail comes in. I can't read any mail or the flow of messages being read is stopped until the new mail comes in.

Is there any settings that I can change in order to speed up the reading process? Thanks.


Online business services for people with disabilities?

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi,


Are there services to help people with disabilities set up and run lucrative online businesses for people who are on disability for severe health issues that make it necessary to spend a good part of a day resting or doing time-consuming routine procedures? I know about someone who had to stop working because she has issues that has required hospital stays and has low energy.  Can someone make enough income to pay hospital bills with level companies that sell products?  I wish I could create something that would support people like her.  Any suggestions or feedback would be much appreciated.


Thanks,


Re: Disappointing experience with some YouTube videos

Sharon Hooley
 

I doubt that in this case they were taken down because of copyright violation, as this organization clearly makes them freely available on their website below the current video player, as I had been able to watch some of them successfully.  In the past, I've come across videos I wanted to watch later, but they were clearly listed as deleted.  I'm curious what a sighted person will find here.

On 8/2/2020 3:21 PM, Gene wrote:

I don't know what is shown on screen when this happens but it has happened to me before.  this material was probably taken down or maybe you have to be a paid member of Youtube to stream it.  Why this happens instead of something on screen or some sort of announcement that the file has been taken down for copyright violations is something I don't know.  If you have a sighted person around to see what is on screen, we may get an answer but all this material is copyrighted.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sharon Hooley
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 9:20 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Disappointing experience with some YouTube videos

Hi,

I'm trying to listen to some YouTube live stream recordings, but sometimes all I hear is music so far.  I understand that we have to wait until it's published, but there's at least one episode that should have been made available a week or two ago.  Does anyone else experience this frustration? Any feedback and suggestions of what to do would be much appreciated.

Thanks,


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Sending&ReceivingManually

Smiling?
 

Send & Receiving manually with Outlook.

 

1. Alt+F for File menu.

2. T for Options (or just arrow up once to Options).

3. Now navigate to the Advanced Tab and Tab until you get to Send & Receive... which the keystroke is Alt+D.

4. Open that option up and adjust things accordingly.