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Re: still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

chris judge

#90569

Hi. I'm sure you can get 3.5 extenders. I don't know why they make those cords so darn short.

Chris Judge

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: June 19, 2020 6:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

Well, the cable is to the other speaker.
It is an audio cable that connect the 2 speakers together.
It is connected to the main speaker and the 3.5 join them together.
So when you connect them, the main speaker has the USB cord that goes to the pc.
 Are there 3.5 extended cables?
 I was considering to have them on the desk on either side of the monitor, they would fit this way without the extended cord.
 I was looking at say speaker lifts to hol the speakers off the desk so it would sound better.
But cant  find tiny lifts for small speakers, well, there was one but, it was discontinued woe!
 But even the so called small speaker stands are way to big for my little USB speakers; the jbl speakers that are round like a wheels, The bottom is flat but, you can lay them flat however, i like to have them stand up on their flat surface.
 They are by far the best sounding usb powered speakers.
 I am currently using them with my fire stick and I have them plugged in to my USB hubb and a 3.5 cable is connecting it to the converter box which is connected to the fire stick.
 I used to use them with my laptop before I gave the laptop to my neighbor who did not have anything.
 So glad my friend helped me set up my firestick using the speakers! Like this set up, no dangling wires and i did not have to use bluetooth.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

You could get a USB extender cable.

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: June 18, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe!   Makes me think there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere 
before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help.
You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the 
problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a 
new computer.
What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble   shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility.  I guess fios  zen your 
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws 
with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was 
using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws 
utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports 
instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing 
that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from 
this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at 
the end of sentences!
During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 
times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to 
the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting 
to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and 
connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing 
wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound 
card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back!
It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent 
and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are 
plugged in to the creative sound card.  I checked again and it 
said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn 
speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I 
type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I 
even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the 
creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If 
things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the 
old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should 
now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog 
speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do.  It 
should start working after a short pause while the new USB 
software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without 
losing speech which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime 
I plut in the usb all speech stops till i take it out! I thought 
I would get a set up or something! The first time I tried to add 
another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io"
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a
4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I 
might get one of the dacs like the  fios  which is created by 
texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper 
solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb 
speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers 
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth 
mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap 
as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, 
and is 129.
These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 
dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a 
thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied 
with the internal sound card they were using? I always take 
context into account when making recommendations of products 
if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen 
Dac, which don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker 
is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows 
speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could 
use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch 
youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I 
have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go 
bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as 
far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby
AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just 
audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started 
affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 
dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not 
interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about 
when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind 
youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with 
assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are 
you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an 
internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures 
suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the 
sound cards. I guess the did not test weather or not the 
controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge"
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. 
I'm running my mixer through it and all is well. It seems 
funny that garbled speech would happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On 
Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss 
their control pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative 
Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the 
following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech 
application gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after 
some time. We are sadly not able to confirm if our audio 
devices support text to speech applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is 
recommended to get a USB DAC that does not provide any audio 
processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver.
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers 
like FiiO, AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio 
effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in 
our product range , but I have posted your suggestion in our 
feedback , and you never know , maybe it will be considered 
for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, 
please contact us here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound 
cards. I want to be able to control how my sound card puts 
out audio. If I am spending money on a product, I believe I 
have the right to expect to be able to use all features of 
that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. 
I didn't bother installing the software because it works 
fine without it as I am just running my speakers through the 
audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through the line in, but 
if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at 
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On 
Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people 
working on this. I think they are going to use narrator and 
jaws in 40 mode to see if it can read the controls and how 
it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least they got back 
to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen 
dac, which is like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I 
think audiophile or music orientated audio dacs are the 
best, as they don't have the sound effects and such gamer 
cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended?
thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online 
that the driver software has bugs under 10, and that the 
direct mode, whith enhancements disabled, isn't as 
neutral as it should be.
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be 
annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital 
sound for my audio files. I heard the Creative Sound 
Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you 
have to use proprietary software or will windows10 
detect the sound card. I keep reading about them off 
amazon and first they say you can plug and goe and than 
they said you have to to use Creative Sound Blaster 
controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is 
fine but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? 
Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? 
I read around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. 
Very similar to most anything else within this world 
of ours and I am very certain that this specifically 
was not the answer you were seeking, but it's 
definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io 
<main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought 
a pair of high res audiophile grade headphones, and 
the reviews say you definately need an external 
DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an 
XPS 8930, and although I love the machine for the 
most part, I've had many issues with the sound. I 
finally ordered a good USB sound card and M going to 
forgo the onboard sound card.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io 
<main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major 
Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had 
her disable the Real Tech audio drivers so the 
computer would use the computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major 
update re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and 
this process starts all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker

On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, 
it gets really loud and than goes really low. It 
saids my drivers are up to date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I 
am using jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, 
loud and low.
Thanks Heather

Re: Seems Sonos forgot blind users with new Sonos app

chris judge

#90568

I've been using it now for a couple weeks. I can't recall any real issues
getting past the agreement, but I did my updating at 5 in the morning and
was half asleep lol. I haven't had any issues with the app. 
Chris Judge

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: June 19, 2020 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Seems Sonos forgot blind users with new Sonos app

Fanus,

I struggled with the same thing and finally got past it. Seems I clicked on
view the agreement, or a button by it,  then went through it a  bit, then
back to page 4 and there was an accept button or something like that. Very
frustrating, wish I could be of more help but that is what I remember.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Seems Sonos forgot blind users with new Sonos app

Hello list
I downloaded the new Sonos s2 app on my iPhone. I can not get past page 4 of
the explanations. There is no continue button. Has anyone succeeded to open
the app?
Regards
Fanus

Re: Seems Sonos forgot blind users with new Sonos app

Robin Frost

#90567

Hi,

That was my experience as well. Reading the agreement caused that button to manifest but it still took some doing to get to. I agree it was a bit of a misstep on their part but once past it the app is as friendly as it always has been even if some things have been renamed. Perhaps someone should politely make them aware of it either via email, phone call or @SonosSupport on Twitter.

Take good care.

Robin

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On 6/19/2020 4:43 PM, Alan Robbins wrote:

Fanus,

I struggled with the same thing and finally got past it. Seems I clicked on
view the agreement, or a button by it,  then went through it a  bit, then
back to page 4 and there was an accept button or something like that. Very
frustrating, wish I could be of more help but that is what I remember.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Seems Sonos forgot blind users with new Sonos app

Hello list
I downloaded the new Sonos s2 app on my iPhone. I can not get past page 4 of
the explanations. There is no continue button. Has anyone succeeded to open
the app?
Regards
Fanus

Re: Accessible Games Inquiry

Sam Taylor

#90566

Sorry, forgot to mention that RSGames is available on the iPHone platform also.

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On 20/06/2020 11:58 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

Recently, I have been playing accessible games on my iPhone. The two sets of games are Dice World and Game World. Dice World is totally accessible. Game World is mostly accessible. These games include for Dice World: Farkle, three's, Yatsy, 1-4-24, and Pig. Game World has several cared games including one called Pirate Poker. When I was a little boy before I lost my vision, my dad taught me how to play 5 card stud--known I believe as straight poker. Pirate Poker is based on this type of Poker.

However, absent in both these game sets is a simple game of Bingo. My wife loves Bingo and wants to know if there is any form of accessible Bingo of any sort for either the iPhone or PC. I did a cursory search on the Apple App store and found a bunch of stuff that if for sophisticated gaming and requires a monthly fee. The game mentioned above are free to use and to install.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Accessible Games Inquiry

Sam Taylor

#90565

Accessible Bingo is one of the games on the RSGames client for PC or Mac.

https://rsgames.org/

Cheers

Sam

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On 20/06/2020 11:58 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

Recently, I have been playing accessible games on my iPhone. The two sets of games are Dice World and Game World. Dice World is totally accessible. Game World is mostly accessible. These games include for Dice World: Farkle, three's, Yatsy, 1-4-24, and Pig. Game World has several cared games including one called Pirate Poker. When I was a little boy before I lost my vision, my dad taught me how to play 5 card stud--known I believe as straight poker. Pirate Poker is based on this type of Poker.

However, absent in both these game sets is a simple game of Bingo. My wife loves Bingo and wants to know if there is any form of accessible Bingo of any sort for either the iPhone or PC. I did a cursory search on the Apple App store and found a bunch of stuff that if for sophisticated gaming and requires a monthly fee. The game mentioned above are free to use and to install.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Accessible Games Inquiry

Ron Canazzi

#90564

Hi Group,

Recently, I have been playing accessible games on my iPhone.  The two sets of games are Dice World and Game World.  Dice World is totally accessible.  Game World is mostly accessible.  These games include for Dice World: Farkle, three's, Yatsy, 1-4-24, and Pig. Game World has several cared games including one called Pirate Poker.  When I was a little boy before I lost my vision, my dad taught me how to play 5 card stud--known I believe as straight poker. Pirate Poker is based on this type of Poker.

However, absent in both these game sets is a simple game of Bingo. My wife loves Bingo and wants to know if there is any form of accessible Bingo of any sort for either the iPhone or PC.  I did a cursory search on the Apple App store and found a bunch of stuff that if for sophisticated gaming and requires a monthly fee.  The game mentioned above are free to use and to install.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Re: reminder please: how to find system ram and cpu amounts on window 10

David Goldfield

#90563

I forgot to mention that you'll need to use the review keys for your screen reader to review all of the information on that screen such as the JAWS cursor if you're a JAWS user.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/19/2020 8:21 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

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The quickest way is to open the System applet, found in the Control Panel. As a quick shortcut press the Windows key along with the long-forgotten Pause/Break key which opens the System app. This key is usually on the top row of the keyboard, on the far right in the group of three keys on the right hand side.
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/19/2020 8:13 PM, Keith S wrote:

Could someone please remind me how to find out how much ram and the cpu speed on my windows 10 comp?

Thanks

Keith

Can't shre a video from YouTube to facebook

Loy

#90562

When I try to share a video on YouTube, I get an error that user has opted out. Where in facebook can I change this. I have looked through settings and could not find a setting that looked like that.

Re: reminder please: how to find system ram and cpu amounts on window 10

David Goldfield

#90561

The quickest way is to open the System applet, found in the Control Panel. As a quick shortcut press the Windows key along with the long-forgotten Pause/Break key which opens the System app. This key is usually on the top row of the keyboard, on the far right in the group of three keys on the right hand side.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/19/2020 8:13 PM, Keith S wrote:

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Could someone please remind me how to find out how much ram and the cpu speed on my windows 10 comp?

Thanks

Keith

reminder please: how to find system ram and cpu amounts on window 10

Keith S

#90560

Could someone please remind me how to find out how much ram and the cpu speed on my windows 10 comp?

Thanks

Keith

Re: still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

Gene

#90559

And that someone doesn't know what they are talking about.  All sound cards are stereo.  If something sounds absurd, it should be doubted.  There were, I believ decades ago, sound cards that were half dupllex and full duplex. Half duplex means that they can play one source at a time such as a pllayer. Full duplex means you can play multiple sources, such as have a player playing and at the same time, have something else like JAWS speaking at the same time.  Half duplex sound cards could play a player, then if you wanted JAWS to play, you would have to stop the player, then make JAWS start to speak.

Gene

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-----Original Message----- 
From: heather albright
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 4:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I think this sound card does not do stereo. Someone told me I need the sound
card to have this for jaws to work correctly. Come to think about it, my
internal did not have that feature too! My speakers do have stereo. Heather
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Smiling?" <blind7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

Try opening up the Sound Mixer.

1. Open the run dialogue Windows key+R.
2. Type in

sndvol and press Enter.

3. Now just Tab around and see what's where and such, and feel free to
adjust whatever to your liking.
4. Alt+F4 whenever finished because you can bring this back up anytime you
would like by the above steps.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Moty
Azrad
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 23:50
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

Hi all,

I've problems in all my Internet browsers, IE11, edge83, firefox77 and
google chrome83 too.
I don't have any sounds when open videos or when I open movies in these
browsers.
This happens only in the Internet browsers.

I checked the settings in IE11 and
sound in media is enabled.
What can I do more?
I use win10 version 2004 but I have another laptop with win10 version 1909
and I have the same problem there too.

Thanks for any help.

Moti

Moti Azrad
Musician and Piano-Tuner

motiaz@...

azrad_moty@...

Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 19 June, 2020 4:41
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

If they didn't get uncomfortable, which would you prefer?  you can get very
comfortable headphones that sound good for something like forty or fifty
dollars.  I wear mine for hours most days with little or no discomfort.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

I have a headphones; that is what I am using. But it gets uncomfortable
after so long! Wonder if someone can tell me if these speakers are usb
powered for real.
https://www.amazon.com/USB-Powered-Computer-Speakers-PB20-Surround/dp/B07VTS62L6/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=ac+powered+usb+speakers&qid=1592528160&sr=8-16
so
many speakers say their usb powered but if you keep reading, there is always
a 3.5 connection in the mix.The usb is for power but you still need the
audio 3.5 connection. I think my jpl plugg and play usb speakers are the
only ones out there. I have not seen another like them. Shame if they would
sit higher or had a longer cord, they would have worked. They sit right on
the desk which the sound did not sound right. I was really hoping I could
just switch set ups, the jbl on the desktop and the bows on the fire stick.
Amazon accessibility saw these speakers and I hope if they work, the way
they sit on the desk, it would work! But the lady on the phone was not that
tecnical so she was not sure! Thanks cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest.  Meantime, do you have any
headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now?
Or do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL
Pebbles Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes
between the speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These
are different from the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing
but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe!   Makes me think
there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But
without the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers
that have say seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want
bluetooth, I have an older bluetooth and I do not like the sound
quality for bluetooth. Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere
before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help.
You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the
problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get
a new computer What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble   shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could
not
fix all the problems with the generic utility.  I guess fios  zen
your next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of
jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it
was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the
jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports
instead of my
2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on
board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet
loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of
sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed
volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But
according to the device manager, this device is working properly!
I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my
speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues.
So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io"
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative
sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port
on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at
100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the
speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card.  I
checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs
sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb
speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound
with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make
sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If
things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the
old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should
now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog
speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do.  It
should start working after a short pause while the new USB
software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without
losing speech which I need to have to know if it works?
Everytime I plut in the usb all speech stops till i take it out!
I thought I would get a set up or something! The first time I
tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io"
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a
4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I
might get one of the dacs like the  fios  which is created by
texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper
solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth
mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap
as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio,
and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are
several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a
thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied
with the internal sound card they were using? I always take
context into account when making recommendations of products
if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen
Dac, which don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker
is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows
speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I
could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also
watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I
have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go
bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and
as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like
Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is
just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it
started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled
out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I
am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk
about when I started doing research I wish we had some blind
youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio.
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene"
<gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money
are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using
an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card
manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about
the sound cards. I guess the did not test weather or not
the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge"
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm
running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled
speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss
their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the
following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech
application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We
are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is
recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver.
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like
FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our
product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and
you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please
contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound
cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am
spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able
to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I
didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I
am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha
mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might
take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people
working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see
if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But
at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac,
which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or
music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the
sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended?
thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online
that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode,
whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be.
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be
annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound
for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good
brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have
to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound
card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you
can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative
Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That
is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I
read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very
similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am
very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you
were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a
pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say
you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them
to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS
8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've
had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB
sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major
Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her
disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use
the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major
update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process
starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker

On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it
gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my
drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am
using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and
low.
Thanks Heather

Re: still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

heather albright

#90558

I think this sound card does not do stereo. Someone told me I need the sound card to have this for jaws to work correctly. Come to think about it, my internal did not have that feature too! My speakers do have stereo. Heather

Show quoted text

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Smiling?" <blind7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

Try opening up the Sound Mixer.

1. Open the run dialogue Windows key+R.
2. Type in

sndvol and press Enter.

3. Now just Tab around and see what's where and such, and feel free to adjust whatever to your liking.
4. Alt+F4 whenever finished because you can bring this back up anytime you would like by the above steps.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Moty Azrad
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 23:50
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

Hi all,

I've problems in all my Internet browsers, IE11, edge83, firefox77 and google chrome83 too.
I don't have any sounds when open videos or when I open movies in these browsers.
This happens only in the Internet browsers.

I checked the settings in IE11 and
sound in media is enabled.
What can I do more?
I use win10 version 2004 but I have another laptop with win10 version 1909 and I have the same problem there too.

Thanks for any help.

Moti

Moti Azrad
Musician and Piano-Tuner

motiaz@...

azrad_moty@...

Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 19 June, 2020 4:41
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

If they didn't get uncomfortable, which would you prefer?  you can get very comfortable headphones that sound good for something like forty or fifty dollars.  I wear mine for hours most days with little or no discomfort.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I have a headphones; that is what I am using. But it gets uncomfortable after so long! Wonder if someone can tell me if these speakers are usb powered for real.
https://www.amazon.com/USB-Powered-Computer-Speakers-PB20-Surround/dp/B07VTS62L6/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=ac+powered+usb+speakers&qid=1592528160&sr=8-16
so
many speakers say their usb powered but if you keep reading, there is always a 3.5 connection in the mix.The usb is for power but you still need the audio 3.5 connection. I think my jpl plugg and play usb speakers are the only ones out there. I have not seen another like them. Shame if they would sit higher or had a longer cord, they would have worked. They sit right on the desk which the sound did not sound right. I was really hoping I could just switch set ups, the jbl on the desktop and the bows on the fire stick.
Amazon accessibility saw these speakers and I hope if they work, the way they sit on the desk, it would work! But the lady on the phone was not that tecnical so she was not sure! Thanks cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest.  Meantime, do you have any
headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now?
Or do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL
Pebbles Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes
between the speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These
are different from the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing
but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe!   Makes me think
there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But
without the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers
that have say seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want
bluetooth, I have an older bluetooth and I do not like the sound
quality for bluetooth. Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere
before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help.
You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the
problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get
a new computer What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble   shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could
not
fix all the problems with the generic utility.  I guess fios  zen
your next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of
jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it
was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the
jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports
instead of my
2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on
board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet
loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of
sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed
volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But
according to the device manager, this device is working properly!
I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my
speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues.
So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io"
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative
sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port
on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at
100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the
speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card.  I
checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs
sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb
speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound
with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make
sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If
things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the
old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should
now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog
speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do.  It
should start working after a short pause while the new USB
software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without
losing speech which I need to have to know if it works?
Everytime I plut in the usb all speech stops till i take it out!
I thought I would get a set up or something! The first time I
tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io"
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a
4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I
might get one of the dacs like the  fios  which is created by
texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper
solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth
mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap
as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio,
and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are
several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a
thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied
with the internal sound card they were using? I always take
context into account when making recommendations of products
if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen
Dac, which don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker
is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows
speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I
could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also
watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I
have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go
bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and
as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like
Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is
just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it
started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled
out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I
am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk
about when I started doing research I wish we had some blind
youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio.
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene"
<gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money
are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using
an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card
manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about
the sound cards. I guess the did not test weather or not
the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge"
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm
running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled
speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss
their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the
following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech
application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We
are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is
recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver.
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like
FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our
product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and
you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please
contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound
cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am
spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able
to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I
didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I
am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha
mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might
take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people
working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see
if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But
at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac,
which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or
music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the
sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended?
thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online
that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode,
whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be.
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be
annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound
for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good
brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have
to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound
card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you
can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative
Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That
is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I
read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very
similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am
very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you
were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a
pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say
you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them
to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS
8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've
had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB
sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major
Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her
disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use
the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major
update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process
starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker

On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it
gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my
drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am
using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and
low.
Thanks Heather

Re: still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

heather albright

#90557

Well, the cable is to the other speaker.
It is an audio cable that connect the 2 speakers together.
It is connected to the main speaker and the 3.5 join them together.
So when you connect them, the main speaker has the USB cord that goes to the pc.
Are there 3.5 extended cables?
I was considering to have them on the desk on either side of the monitor, they would fit this way without the extended cord.
I was looking at say speaker lifts to hol the speakers off the desk so it would sound better.
But cant  find tiny lifts for small speakers, well, there was one but, it was discontinued woe!
But even the so called small speaker stands are way to big for my little USB speakers; the jbl speakers that are round like a wheels, The bottom is flat but, you can lay them flat however, i like to have them stand up on their flat surface.
They are by far the best sounding usb powered speakers.
I am currently using them with my fire stick and I have them plugged in to my USB hubb and a 3.5 cable is connecting it to the converter box which is connected to the fire stick.
I used to use them with my laptop before I gave the laptop to my neighbor who did not have anything.
So glad my friend helped me set up my firestick using the speakers! Like this set up, no dangling wires and i did not have to use bluetooth.
cheers Heather

Show quoted text

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

You could get a USB extender cable.

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: June 18, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe!   Makes me think there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere
before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help.
You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the
problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer.
What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble   shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility.  I guess fios  zen
your next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws
with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was
using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws
utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports
instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing
that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from
this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences!
During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5
times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to
the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting
to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and
connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing
wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound
card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back!
It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent
and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are
plugged in to the creative sound card.  I checked again and it
said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn
speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I
type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I
even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the
creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If
things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the
old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should
now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog
speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do.  It
should start working after a short pause while the new USB
software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without
losing speech which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime
I plut in the usb all speech stops till i take it out! I thought
I would get a set up or something! The first time I tried to add
another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io"
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a
4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I
might get one of the dacs like the  fios  which is created by
texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper
solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth
mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap
as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129.
These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200
dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a
thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied
with the internal sound card they were using? I always take
context into account when making recommendations of products
if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen
Dac, which don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker
is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows
speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could
use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch
youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I
have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go
bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as
far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby
AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just
audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started
affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5
dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not
interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about
when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind
youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with
assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are
you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an
internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures
suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the
sound cards. I guess the did not test weather or not the
controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge"
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication
from creative

Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm
running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled
speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss
their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the
following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech
application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We
are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is
recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver.
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like
FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our
product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and
you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please
contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound
cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am
spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to
use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I
didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am
just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha
mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take
a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people
working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see
if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But
at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac,
which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or
music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the
sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended?
thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online
that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode,
whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be.
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be
annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound
for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good
brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to
use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound
card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you
can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is
fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I
read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very
similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am
very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a
pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say
you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to
get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS
8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've
had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound
card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows
update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her
disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major
update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process
starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker

On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it
gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my
drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am
using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and
low.
Thanks Heather

outlook express 6 and iMap

Troy Burnham

#90556

Hi all,

I'm running windows 10 here but I have a friend running outlook express 6 in windows 10 and he says it works so I want to try it.

I'm trying to set up my gmail account but I want to set it up as iMap and I don't see how to change it from pop3 to iMap, it does mention iMap however so I know that option is available. Can anybody tell me how to install a gmail account into outlook express 6 using iMap?

Thanks.

Troy

Re: Seems Sonos forgot blind users with new Sonos app

Alan Robbins

#90555

Fanus,

I struggled with the same thing and finally got past it. Seems I clicked on
view the agreement, or a button by it,  then went through it a  bit, then
back to page 4 and there was an accept button or something like that. Very
frustrating, wish I could be of more help but that is what I remember.

Al

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 2:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Seems Sonos forgot blind users with new Sonos app

Hello list
I downloaded the new Sonos s2 app on my iPhone. I can not get past page 4 of
the explanations. There is no continue button. Has anyone succeeded to open
the app?
Regards
Fanus

Seems Sonos forgot blind users with new Sonos app

Fanus

#90554

Hello list
I downloaded the new Sonos s2 app on my iPhone. I can not get past page 4 of
the explanations. There is no continue button. Has anyone succeeded to open
the app?
Regards
Fanus

Re: still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

chris judge

#90553

You could get a USB extender cable.

Chris Judge

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: June 18, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different. 
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe!   Makes me think there 
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere 
before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help.
You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the 
problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer.
What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble   shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility.  I guess fios  zen
your next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. 
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws 
with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was 
using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws 
utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports 
instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing 
that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from 
this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences!
During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 
times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to 
the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting 
to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and 
connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing 
wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound 
card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back!
It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent 
and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are 
plugged in to the creative sound card.  I checked again and it 
said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn 
speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I 
type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I 
even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the 
creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If 
things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the 
old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should 
now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog 
speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do.  It 
should start working after a short pause while the new USB 
software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without 
losing speech which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime 
I plut in the usb all speech stops till i take it out! I thought 
I would get a set up or something! The first time I tried to add 
another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" 
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 
4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I 
might get one of the dacs like the  fios  which is created by 
texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper 
solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers 
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth 
mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap 
as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129.
These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 
dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a 
thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied 
with the internal sound card they were using? I always take 
context into account when making recommendations of products 
if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen 
Dac, which don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker 
is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows 
speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could 
use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch 
youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I 
have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go 
bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as 
far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby 
AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just 
audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started 
affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 
dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not 
interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about 
when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind 
youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with 
assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are 
you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an 
internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures 
suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the 
sound cards. I guess the did not test weather or not the 
controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" 
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm 
running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled 
speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On 
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss 
their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the 
following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech 
application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We 
are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is 
recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. 
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like 
FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our 
product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and 
you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please 
contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound 
cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am 
spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to 
use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I 
didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am 
just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha 
mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take 
a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On 
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people 
working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see 
if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But 
at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, 
which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or 
music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the 
sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? 
thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online 
that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, 
whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. 
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be 
annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound 
for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good 
brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to 
use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound 
card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you 
can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is 
fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks 
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I 
read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very 
similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am 
very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On 
Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a 
pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say 
you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to 
get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 
8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've 
had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound 
card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> 
On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows 
update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her 
disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major 
update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process 
starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker

On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it 
gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my 
drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am 
using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and 
low.
Thanks Heather

regarding to free team talk server

samrat kc

#90552

hello all! i'm samrat kc from nepal.
i need a free teamtalk server on cloud, so our organization members
can join any time.
so, kindly request you to. please help me to get a free team talk cloud server.
and also guide me, how to i create free team talk server on cloud?
hope you will help me.
thankyou, i waiting yours replys!
sorry for my english.

-- 
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administrator@ seroferonews.com ,
Content Manager @ nepali audio book,
Executive Secretary / computer instructor of Creative disable self-help centre.
address: tansen-5, palpa, nepal.
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Re: still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

Smiling?

#90551

Try opening up the Sound Mixer.

1. Open the run dialogue Windows key+R.
2. Type in

sndvol and press Enter.

3. Now just Tab around and see what's where and such, and feel free to adjust whatever to your liking.
4. Alt+F4 whenever finished because you can bring this back up anytime you would like by the above steps.

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Moty Azrad
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 23:50
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

Hi all,

I've problems in all my Internet browsers, IE11, edge83, firefox77 and google chrome83 too.
I don't have any sounds when open videos or when I open movies in these browsers. 
This happens only in the Internet browsers.

I checked the settings in IE11 and
 sound in media is enabled.
What can I do more?
I use win10 version 2004 but I have another laptop with win10 version 1909 and I have the same problem there too.

Thanks for any help.

Moti 

Moti Azrad
Musician and Piano-Tuner    

motiaz@...

azrad_moty@...

Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 19 June, 2020 4:41
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

If they didn't get uncomfortable, which would you prefer?  you can get very comfortable headphones that sound good for something like forty or fifty dollars.  I wear mine for hours most days with little or no discomfort.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I have a headphones; that is what I am using. But it gets uncomfortable after so long! Wonder if someone can tell me if these speakers are usb powered for real.
https://www.amazon.com/USB-Powered-Computer-Speakers-PB20-Surround/dp/B07VTS62L6/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=ac+powered+usb+speakers&qid=1592528160&sr=8-16
so
many speakers say their usb powered but if you keep reading, there is always a 3.5 connection in the mix.The usb is for power but you still need the audio 3.5 connection. I think my jpl plugg and play usb speakers are the only ones out there. I have not seen another like them. Shame if they would sit higher or had a longer cord, they would have worked. They sit right on the desk which the sound did not sound right. I was really hoping I could just switch set ups, the jbl on the desktop and the bows on the fire stick.
Amazon accessibility saw these speakers and I hope if they work, the way they sit on the desk, it would work! But the lady on the phone was not that tecnical so she was not sure! Thanks cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest.  Meantime, do you have any 
headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now?
Or do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare 
of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL 
Pebbles Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes 
between the speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These 
are different from the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing 
but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe!   Makes me think 
there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB 
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But 
without the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers 
that have say seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want 
bluetooth, I have an older bluetooth and I do not like the sound 
quality for bluetooth. Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere 
before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help.
You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the 
problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get 
a new computer What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble   shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could 
not
fix all the problems with the generic utility.  I guess fios  zen
your next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. 
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of 
jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it 
was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the 
jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports 
instead of my
2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on 
board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet 
loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of 
sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed 
volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But 
according to the device manager, this device is working properly! 
I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my 
speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. 
So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" 
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative 
sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port 
on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 
100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the 
speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card.  I 
checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs 
sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb 
speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound 
with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make 
sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If 
things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the 
old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should 
now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog 
speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do.  It 
should start working after a short pause while the new USB 
software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without 
losing speech which I need to have to know if it works? 
Everytime I plut in the usb all speech stops till i take it out! 
I thought I would get a set up or something! The first time I 
tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" 
<kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 
4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I 
might get one of the dacs like the  fios  which is created by 
texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper 
solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers 
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth 
mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap 
as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, 
and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are 
several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a 
thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied 
with the internal sound card they were using? I always take 
context into account when making recommendations of products 
if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen 
Dac, which don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker 
is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows 
speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I 
could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also 
watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I 
have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go 
bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and 
as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like 
Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is 
just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it 
started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled 
out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I 
am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk 
about when I started doing research I wish we had some blind 
youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio.
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" 
<gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money 
are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using 
an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card 
manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about 
the sound cards. I guess the did not test weather or not 
the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" 
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication 
from creative

Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm 
running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled 
speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On 
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss 
their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the 
following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech 
application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We 
are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is 
recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. 
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like 
FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our 
product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and 
you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please 
contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound 
cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am 
spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able 
to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I 
didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I 
am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha 
mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might 
take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On 
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people 
working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see 
if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But 
at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, 
which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or 
music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the 
sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? 
thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online 
that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, 
whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. 
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be 
annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound 
for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good 
brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have 
to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound 
card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you 
can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative 
Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That 
is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks 
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I 
read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very 
similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am 
very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you 
were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> 
On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a 
pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say 
you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them 
to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 
8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've 
had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB 
sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> 
On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major 
Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her 
disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use 
the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major 
update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process 
starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker

On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it 
gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my 
drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am 
using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and 
low.
Thanks Heather

Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

Smiling?

#90550

I feel for the nonsense you are having to deal with, but here is some ideas from Microsoft shared below. One that caught my attention that would be rather easy for you to try though (which it sounds like you already have), is the fourth step advising you to try a different USB port for the speakers seeing as they worked just fine from your other device, an iPad I believe it was.

Let us know how any of this works or does not.

13 Steps along with the URL posted below.

Fix sound problems in Windows 10 - support.microsoft.com:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/help/4520288/windows-10-fix-sound-problems

1.Check your speaker output 
If multiple audio output devices are available, check that you have the appropriate one selected.  Here's how:
list of 3 items
1. Select the Speakers  icon on the taskbar.
2. Next, select the arrow  to open a list of audio devices connected to your computer.
3. Check that your audio is playing to the audio device you prefer, such as a speaker or headphones. 
list end
If this doesn't help, continue to the next tip.

2. Run the audio troubleshooter 
The audio troubleshooter might be able to fix audio problems automatically.
To run the troubleshooter
list of 2 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type audio troubleshooter, select Fix and find problems with playing sound from the results, then select Next.
2. Select the device you want to troubleshoot and then continue through the troubleshooter. 
choose your device in the audio troubleshooter
list end
You can also launch the troubleshooter from audio Settings. Select Start  > Settings > System  > Sound  > Troubleshoot.If running the troubleshooter
doesn't help, continue to the next tip.

3. Verify that all Windows Updates are installed 
To check for updates
list of 4 items
1. Select Start  > Settings  > Update & Security  > Windows Update   > Check for updates.
2. Do one of the following: 
list of 2 items nesting level 1
• If the status says "You're up to date, go to the next tip. 
• If the status says "Updates are available," select Install now. 
list end nesting level 1
3.  Select the updates you want to install, then select Install.
4.  Restart your PC and see if your sound is working properly.
list end
If that didn't solve your problem, continue to the next tip.

4. Check your cables, plugs, jacks, volume, speaker, and headphone connections 
Try these steps
list of 2 items
1. Check your speaker and headphone connections for loose cords or cables. Make sure all cords and cables are plugged in.
2. If you have multiple 5mm jacks to plug into, especially on a surround sound system, make sure all cords and cables are plugged into the correct jack. 

list of 1 items nesting level 1
• If it’s not clear which jack goes with which cord, consult your hardware manufacturer, or try the most obvious outputs one at a time and see if they
work.
sound system 5 mm jacks for cables and cords
list end nesting level 1
list end
Note: Some systems use a green jack for output and pink for mic input and others will be labeled "headphone" or "microphone."
Green output and pink input sound system jacks
headphone and microphone sound system jacks
list of 4 items
3.  Make sure the power is turned on and check the volume level.
4. Make sure the mute setting is not turned on, and try turning up all the volume controls. 
list of 1 items nesting level 1
• Remember some speakers and apps have their own volume controls. Be sure to check them all.
list end nesting level 1
5. Try connecting your speaker and headphones to a different USB port.
6. It's possible that your speakers won't work when your headphones are plugged in. Unplug your headphones and see if that helps. 
list end
If your cables and volume are OK, see the next sections for additional troubleshooting.

5. Check sound settings 
Check to make sure your audio devices aren't muted and haven't been disabled.
list of 5 items
1. Right-click the Speakers icon  on the taskbar, and then select Open Volume mixer. 
2. You’ll see a set of volume controls for your devices. Make sure none of them are muted. If any of them are muted, you’ll see a red circle with a line
through it next to the volume control. In that case, select the volume control to unmute. 
Volume mixer with muted volume controls
3. Check your device properties to make sure that your devices have not been disabled by mistake. Select Start  > Settings  > System  > Sound .
4. Select your audio device, and then select Device properties. Be sure to select Device properties for both the output and input devices.
sound output device properties link in sound menu
sound input device properties link in sound menu 
5. Make sure the Disable check box is cleared for the output and input devices.
Device properties cleared disable check box
list end
If that didn't solve your problem, continue to the next tip.

6. Fix your audio drivers 
Hardware problems can be caused by outdated or malfunctioning drivers. Make sure your audio driver is up to date and update it if needed. If that doesn't
work, try uninstalling the audio driver (it will reinstall automatically). If that doesn't work, try using the generic audio driver that comes with Windows.
If you're having audio issues after installing updates, try rolling back your audio driver.
To update your audio driver automatically
list of 3 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type device manager, then select it from the results.
2. Select the arrow next to Sound, video and game controllers to expand it.
3. Right-click the listing for your sound card or audio device, such as headphones or speakers, select Update driver, then select Search automatically
for updated driver software. Follow the instructions to complete the update.
Right-click the device listing and select Update driver
search automatically for updated driver software to update audio driver
list end
If Windows doesn't find a new driver, look for one on the device manufacturer's website and follow those instructions. If that doesn't work, try uninstalling
your audio driver.
To uninstall your audio driver
list of 4 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type device manager, then select it from the results.
2. Select the arrow next to Sound, video and game controllers to expand it.
3. Right-click the listing for your sound card or audio device, select Uninstall device, select the Delete the driver software for this device check box,
and then select Uninstall.
Delete the driver software for this device and uninstall
4. Restart your PC. 
list of 3 items nesting level 1
• Note: Be sure to save documents and any other current work before you restart.
• This restart will automatically prompt your PC to reinstall your audio driver.
• To restart, select Start  > Power  > Restart .
list end nesting level 1
list end
If those options didn’t work, try using the generic audio driver that comes with Windows.
To use the generic audio driver that comes with Windows
list of 4 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type device manager, then select it from the results.
2. Select the arrow next to Sound, video and game controllers to expand it.
3. Right-click the listing for your sound card or audio device, then select Update driver > Browse my computer for driver software > Let me pick from a
list of device drivers on my computer.
4. Select the audio device whose driver you want to update, select Next, and then follow the instructions to install it.
Select the driver and select next to use the generic audio driver
list end
If these steps didn't solve your audio issue, visit your device manufacturer’s website and install the most recent audio/sound drivers for your device.
Following is an example of a driver download page for a sound device manufacturer.
Dell drivers and downloads OEM example
If you have audio issues after installing updates
If your audio was working before you ran Windows Update and now isn’t working, try rolling back your audio driver.
To roll back your audio driver
list of 5 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type device manager, then select it from the results.
2. Select the arrow next to Sound, video and game controllers to expand it.
3. Right-click the listing for your sound card or audio device, then select Properties.
4. Select the Driver tab, then select Roll Back Driver.
Roll back the audio driver in Device Manager
5. Read and follow the instructions and then select Yes if you want to roll back your audio driver.
list end
If rolling back your audio driver didn't work or wasn't an option, you can try to restore your PC from a system restore point.
Restore your PC from a system restore point
When Microsoft installs updates on your system, we create a system restore point in case problems arise. Try restoring from that point and see if that
fixes your sound problems. For more info, see "Restore from a system restore point" in 
Recovery options in Windows 10.

7. Set your audio device as the default device 
If you're connecting to an audio device—such as headphones or speakers—using USB or HDMI, you might need to set that device as the default audio device.
 If you’re using an external monitor that doesn’t have built-in speakers, make sure that the monitor isn’t already selected as your default output device.
if it is, you won’t have any audio. You can check that when you set your default output audio device. Here’s how:   
list of 3 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type control panel, then select it from the results.
2. Select Hardware and Sound from the Control Panel, and then select Sound.
3. On the Playback tab, right-click the listing for your audio device, select Set as Default Device, and then select OK.
set your audio device as the default device
list end
If setting your audio device as the default device doesn't help, continue to the next tip for additional troubleshooting.

8. Turn off audio enhancements 
Sometimes having audio enhancements on can result in audio issues. Disabling them may resolve your issue. 
list of 5 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type control panel, then select it from the results.
2. Select Hardware and Sound from the Control Panel, and then select Sound.
3. On the Playback tab, right-click the Default Device, and then select Properties.
4. On the Enhancements tab, select either the Disable all enhancements or the Disable all sound effects check box (depending on which option you see),
select OK, and try to play your audio device.
5.  If that doesn't work, on the Playback tab, select another default device (if you have one), select either the Disable all enhancements or the Disable
all sound effects check box (depending on which option you see), select OK, and try to play audio again. Do this for each default device.
disable all enhancements or sound effects
list end
If turning off audio enhancements doesn't help, see the next sections for additional troubleshooting.

9. Restart Audio Services
list of 2 items
1.  In the search box on the taskbar, type services, then select it from the results.
2. Select each of the following services, right-click, and then select Restart: 
list of 3 items nesting level 1
• Windows Audio
• Windows Audio Endpoint Builder
• Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
restart audio services: Windows Audio, Windows Endpoint Builder, and Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
list end nesting level 1
list end
If restarting these services doesn’t resolve your issue, see the next sections for more troubleshooting.

10. Try different audio formats 
list of 4 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type control panel, and then select it from the results.
2. Select Hardware and Sound from the Control Panel, and then select Sound.
3. On the Playback tab, right-click (or press and hold) Default Device, and then select Properties.
4. On the Advanced tab, under Default Format, change the setting, select OK, and then test your audio device. If that doesn't work, try changing the setting
again.
Change the audio format setting of your audio device
list end
If trying different audio formats doesn't help, see the next sections for additional troubleshooting.

11. Restart to apply installed updates 
Many updates require you to restart your device.
To check and see if you have installed updates pending and need to restart
list of 3 items
1. Save your work and close all open applications.
2. Select Start  > Power . If you have installed updates pending, you’ll see options to Update and restart and Update and shut down.
3. Select one of those restart options to apply the updates
list end
Need help with Windows Update? See 
Learn how to Troubleshoot problems updating Windows 10.
If restarting doesn't help, see the next section for additional troubleshooting. 

12. Check for IDT High Definition Audio CODEC in Device Manager 
Some audio problems might be caused by an issue with the audio system’s IDT High Definition Audio CODEC. This can be fixed with a manual driver update
which allows you to choose the sound driver you want to use.
Note
Not all systems will have an IDT High Definition Audio CODEC.
To check and see if you have one, and to manually update the driver
list of 4 items
1. In the search box on the taskbar, type device manager, then select it from the results.
2. Select the arrow next to Sound, video and game controllers to expand it.
3. Look for IDT High Definition Audio CODEC. If it's listed, right-click it and select Update driver,  then select Browse my computer for driver software
Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer.4. You’ll see a list of pre-installed drivers. Select High Definition Audio Device, and then select Next.
list end

13. If you have microphone issues, make sure your privacy settings are configured properly 
list of 3 items
1. 1. Select Start  > Settings  > Privacy , and then select Microphone from the left menu.
2. Under Allow access to the microphone on this device, select Change. Make sure the toggle is turned On.
3. If you’re having this issue with a specific app, scroll down to Choose which Microsoft Store apps can access your microphone and make sure that the
toggle next to that app is turned On as well.
list end
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Last Updated: 31-Mar-2020


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound 
card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! 
It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and 
yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged 
in to the creative sound card.  I checked again and it said my output 
device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad 
as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite 
clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws 
utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative


What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If things 
happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB 
speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have 
speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or 
headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do.  It 
should start working after a short pause while the new USB software 
is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without losing 
speech which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in 
the usb all speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a 
set up or something! The first time I tried to add another sound 
card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative


Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 
rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get 
one of the dacs like the  fios  which is created by texas 
instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution 
first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative


Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. 
The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. 
The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These 
aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, 
several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty 
dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the 
internal sound card they were using? I always take context into 
account when making recommendations of products if I know that 
context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, 
which don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is 
giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use 
it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube 
videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have 
to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off 
the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I 
know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my 
media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was 
the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds 
too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound.
I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk 
about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind 
youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive 
technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you 
thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or 
external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures 
suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the 
sound cards. I guess the did not test weather or not the 
controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" 
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm 
running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech 
would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of 
heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from 
creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their 
control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following 
reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech 
application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are 
sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended 
to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. 
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like 
FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our 
product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you 
never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please 
contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I 
want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am 
spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use 
all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I 
didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am 
just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer 
through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a 
look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of 
heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on 
this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if 
it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at 
least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, 
which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that 
the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, 
whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. 
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good 
brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can 
plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is 
fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks 
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very 
similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On 
Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair 
of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get 
all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had 
many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound 
card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows 
update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her 
disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process 
starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers 
are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather