-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 19 June, 2020 4:41
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

If they didn't get uncomfortable, which would you prefer? you can get very comfortable headphones that sound good for something like forty or fifty dollars. I wear mine for hours most days with little or no discomfort.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I have a headphones; that is what I am using. But it gets uncomfortable after so long! Wonder if someone can tell me if these speakers are usb powered for real.
https://www.amazon.com/USB-Powered-Computer-Speakers-PB20-Surround/dp/B07VTS62L6/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=ac+powered+usb+speakers&qid=1592528160&sr=8-16
so
many speakers say their usb powered but if you keep reading, there is always a 3.5 connection in the mix.The usb is for power but you still need the audio 3.5 connection. I think my jpl plugg and play usb speakers are the only ones out there. I have not seen another like them. Shame if they would sit higher or had a longer cord, they would have worked. They sit right on the desk which the sound did not sound right. I was really hoping I could just switch set ups, the jbl on the desktop and the bows on the fire stick.
Amazon accessibility saw these speakers and I hope if they work, the way they sit on the desk, it would work! But the lady on the phone was not that tecnical so she was not sure! Thanks cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest. Meantime, do you have any
headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now? Or
do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of
USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL
Pebbles
Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the
speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different
from
the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way
different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe! Makes me think
there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without
the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have
say
seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an
older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere
before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help. You
may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but
I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer.
What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could
not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws
with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using
the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility
settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my
2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board
card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud
sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of
sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed
volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according
to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting
to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected
them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the
speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound
card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the
back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100
percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that
are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it
said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn
speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I
type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I
even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative
labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things
happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB
speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have
speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or
headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It
should start working after a short pause while the new USB software
is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing
speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the
usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6
rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get
one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas
instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution
first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth
mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a
dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is
129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200
dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty
dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the
internal sound card they were using? I always take context into
account when making recommendations of products if I know that
context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac,
which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is
giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers
again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could
use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch
youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have
to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off
the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I
know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my
media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it
was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other
sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker
so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i
find that is all they talk about when I started doing research.
I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound
card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio.
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are
you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an
internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures
suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the
sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were
accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge"
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm
running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled
speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss
their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the
following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech
application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We
are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is
recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver.
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like
FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our
product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and
you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please
contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound
cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am
spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able
to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I
didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I
am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha
mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might
take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people
working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see
if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But
at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac,
which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or
music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the
sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended?
thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online
that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode,
whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be.
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be
annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound
for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good
brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have
to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound
card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you
can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative
Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That
is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I
read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very
similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am
very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you
were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a
pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say
you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them
to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS
8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've
had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB
sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major
Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her
disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use
the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major
update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process
starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it
gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my
drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am
using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and
low.
Thanks Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 21:50
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues

Hello, I am going to try this as it was pointed out by members, I do not have problems with usb speakers. So I am going to turn my 3.5 speakers in to a usb speaker with this:
https://www.amazon.com/LZYCO-External-Adapter-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B072J7WLQ5



I hope this works will find out on saturday!

Wondering if this will work for those that are USB for power and still require have a 3.5 jack on them to get the sound. I could be totally wrong but, from the description, I would think it would work. It would steal 2 ports but, if you have a desktop, might be okay; not ideal.But if one has an extra USB hub, could work.It is by far the cheaper option woe!

I was reading that some high in speakers that are bluetooth come with built in dacs. So one might just buy the speakers and not another dac. I cant tell you if that bluetooth speaker will not cut off the screen reader, I just know the ones I had did. But I think maybe the knew bluetooth might be better. Someone please correct me if that is not the case! cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest. Meantime, do you have any
headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now? Or
do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of
USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL
Pebbles
Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the
speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different
from
the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way
different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe! Makes me think
there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without
the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have
say
seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an
older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere
before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help. You
may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but
I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer.
What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could
not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws
with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using
the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility
settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my
2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board
card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud
sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of
sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed
volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according
to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting
to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected
them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the
speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound
card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the
back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100
percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that
are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it
said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn
speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I
type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I
even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative
labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things
happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB
speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have
speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or
headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It
should start working after a short pause while the new USB software
is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing
speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the
usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6
rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get
one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas
instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution
first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth
mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a
dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is
129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200
dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty
dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the
internal sound card they were using? I always take context into
account when making recommendations of products if I know that
context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac,
which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is
giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers
again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could
use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch
youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have
to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off
the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I
know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my
media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it
was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other
sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker
so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i
find that is all they talk about when I started doing research.
I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound
card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio.
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are
you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an
internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures
suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the
sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were
accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge"
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm
running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled
speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from
creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss
their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the
following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech
application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We
are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is
recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver.
Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like
FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our
product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and
you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please
contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound
cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am
spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able
to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I
didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I
am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha
mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might
take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people
working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see
if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But
at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac,
which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or
music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the
sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended?
thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online
that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode,
whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be.
Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be
annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound
for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good
brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have
to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound
card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you
can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative
Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That
is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I
read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very
similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am
very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you
were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a
pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say
you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them
to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS
8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've
had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB
sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major
Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her
disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use
the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major
update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process
starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it
gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my
drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am
using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and
low.
Thanks Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

Again, mid range of headphones the open back music optimized kind is
between 150--200 dollars. I did use the 40 dollar type for a while and
they are just ok, but for quality listening experience, it certainly
pays to spend more if you can.

On 6/18/2020 8:41 PM, Gene wrote:

If they didn't get uncomfortable, which would you prefer? you can get very comfortable headphones that sound good for something like forty or fifty dollars. I wear mine for hours most days with little or no discomfort.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I have a headphones; that is what I am using. But it gets uncomfortable
after so long! Wonder if someone can tell me if these speakers are usb
powered for real.
https://www.amazon.com/USB-Powered-Computer-Speakers-PB20-Surround/dp/B07VTS62L6/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=ac+powered+usb+speakers&qid=1592528160&sr=8-16
so
many speakers say their usb powered but if you keep reading, there is always
a 3.5 connection in the mix.The usb is for power but you still need the
audio 3.5 connection. I think my jpl plugg and play usb speakers are the
only ones out there. I have not seen another like them. Shame if they would
sit higher or had a longer cord, they would have worked. They sit right on
the desk which the sound did not sound right. I was really hoping I could
just switch set ups, the jbl on the desktop and the bows on the fire stick.
Amazon accessibility saw these speakers and I hope if they work, the way
they sit on the desk, it would work! But the lady on the phone was not that
tecnical so she was not sure! Thanks cheers Heather

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest. Meantime, do you have any headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now? Or do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles
Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the
speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from
the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe! Makes me think there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without
the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say
seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an
older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help. You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer. What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest. Meantime, do you have any headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now? Or do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles
Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the
speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from
the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe! Makes me think there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without
the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say
seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an
older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help. You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer. What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

On 6/18/2020 8:41 PM, Gene wrote:

If they didn't get uncomfortable, which would you prefer?  you can get very comfortable headphones that sound good for something like forty or fifty dollars.  I wear mine for hours most days with little or no discomfort.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I have a headphones; that is what I am using. But it gets uncomfortable
after so long! Wonder if someone can tell me if these speakers are usb
powered for real.
https://www.amazon.com/USB-Powered-Computer-Speakers-PB20-Surround/dp/B07VTS62L6/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=ac+powered+usb+speakers&qid=1592528160&sr=8-16
so
many speakers say their usb powered but if you keep reading, there is always
a 3.5 connection in the mix.The usb is for power but you still need the
audio 3.5 connection. I think my jpl plugg and play usb speakers are the
only ones out there. I have not seen another like them. Shame if they would
sit higher or had a longer cord, they would have worked. They sit right on
the desk which the sound did not sound right. I was really hoping I could
just switch set ups, the jbl on the desktop and the bows on the fire stick.
Amazon accessibility saw these speakers and I hope if they work, the way
they sit on the desk, it would work! But the lady on the phone was not that
tecnical so she was not sure! Thanks cheers Heather

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest. Meantime, do you have any headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now?  Or do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles
Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the
speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from
the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe!   Makes me think there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without
the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say
seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an
older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help.  You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer. What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble   shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility.  I guess fios zen  your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card.  I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do.  It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the  fios  which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

On 6/18/2020 2:54 PM, heather albright wrote:

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card.  I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio?  If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB  sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios  which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I have a headphones; that is what I am using. But it gets uncomfortable
after so long! Wonder if someone can tell me if these speakers are usb
powered for real.
https://www.amazon.com/USB-Powered-Computer-Speakers-PB20-Surround/dp/B07VTS62L6/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=ac+powered+usb+speakers&qid=1592528160&sr=8-16
so
many speakers say their usb powered but if you keep reading, there is always
a 3.5 connection in the mix.The usb is for power but you still need the
audio 3.5 connection. I think my jpl plugg and play usb speakers are the
only ones out there. I have not seen another like them. Shame if they would
sit higher or had a longer cord, they would have worked. They sit right on
the desk which the sound did not sound right. I was really hoping I could
just switch set ups, the jbl on the desktop and the bows on the fire stick.
Amazon accessibility saw these speakers and I hope if they work, the way
they sit on the desk, it would work! But the lady on the phone was not that
tecnical so she was not sure! Thanks cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare
of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest. Meantime, do you have any headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now? Or do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles
Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the
speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from
the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe! Makes me think there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without
the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say
seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an
older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help. You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer. What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I don't know what members may suggest. Meantime, do you have any headphones you can plug into the sound card jack and use them for now? Or do you have any USB headphones?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles
Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the
speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from
the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe! Makes me think there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without
the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say
seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an
older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help. You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer. What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] still having sound issues, looking for a good pare of USB speakers

I am not for purcheasing a knew pc just yet! I wanted to note my JBL Pebbles
Plug and Play speakers worked however, the cord that goes between the
speakers was not long enough for my desktop set up! These are different from
the pebbles plugg and play, it can been confusing but, there way different.
I got them for 49 dollars but, they cost 249 now woe! Makes me think there
is something wrong with the 3.5 connection. So am all for using USB
speakers! I tested them with the 3.5 connection and not good. But without
the 3.5 connection, no issues. So anyone know of USB speakers that have say
seven foot cord between the speakers? I did not want bluetooth, I have an
older bluetooth and I do not like the sound quality for bluetooth. Thanks
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help. You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer. What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I know of an instance where someone had a problem that was somewhere before the sound card and trying an external sound card didn't help. You may try the DAC, of course, and I can't say it won't solve the problem but I suspect you will have to have something repaired or get a new computer. What you are describing is outside of behavior you should be experiencing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well it is doing the exact same thing with the volume too. I tried the
windows trouble shooting to fix the issues and windows said it could not
fix all the problems with the generic utility. I guess fios zen your
next. cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

It did the exact same thing with my mp3 audio. I had a mp3 playing by itself and turned off jaws. So I tried 2 different files in case one file had an issue! I am waiting to here back from the other manufacturers so I am still playing around with this sound card. I am going to try other types of audio to see if it keeps changing the sound.Oh wish i could get rid of this popping sound on the sound card with jaws as I am typing! I changed 1 the sound card for the audio 2 changed the ports from 2.0 to 3.0 USB. 3 tried the 3.5 speakers in another device to make sure it was not the speakers. So running out of options! Can it still have something to do with the 3.5 connection even though it is going threw a sound card which is useing the usb port?Thanks Heather ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does that ohnly happen with JAWS or with audio in general? At this point, I'm suspicious that the issue is something related to your computer and not the sound card.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it
only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing
the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is
going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative
sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative
labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker
woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe!
Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative
labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

It did not come with one! It is a plugg and play no drivers needed. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it
only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing
the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is
going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative
sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative
labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker
woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe!
Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative
labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Stephens" <bstephens122874@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Install the driver from the included cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright" <kd5cbl@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:

What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:

The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:

Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:

I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:

Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:

It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather