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Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

heather albright
 

Well, me switch the ports did not stop the loud quiet sound of jaws with the creative sound card. I checked again to be sure it was using the creative sound on both the sound settings and the jaws utility settings. It is! It is plugged in to my 3.0 USB ports instead of my 2.0 ports. So wonder why it is doing the same thing that my on board card did before it went out! I cant get away from this quiet loud sound again woe or that freaking popping thing at the end of sentences! During the typing of this e-mail my speech has changed volume 5 times with out me doing anything to the volume! But according to the device manager, this device is working properly! I am starting to think my pc has a gremlin in it! I took my speakers and connected them to the ipad and once again no issues. So nothing wrong with the speakers! sie Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather





















































Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

heather albright
 

Well, I had to restart my computer. I am trying the creative sound card, it only cost 19 dollars. It plugs in to my usb port on the back! It is doing the same thing it said the speech was at 100 percent and yet my audio is going up and down with the speakers that are plugged in to the creative sound card. I checked again and it said my output device is the creative labs sound card! The darn speakers sound as bad as that stupid usb speaker woe! And when I type, there is a slite clicking sound with the speech woe! Sie! I even checked the jaws utility to make sure it was using the creative labs and it is. Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather



















































Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene
 

What are you using with the new sound card to play audio? If things happen properly, when you connect the new sound card, the old USB speaker you are using should lose speech and you should now have speech using the new sound card connected to the analog speakers or headphones you are using with the new card.

When you connect the new soundcard, there is nothing to do. It should start working after a short pause while the new USB software is ffound by Windows.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: heather albright
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech
which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all
speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or
something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather















































Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

heather albright
 

Hello, I wanted to know how to add my USB sound card without losing speech which I need to have to know if it works? Everytime I plut in the usb all speech stops till i take it out! I thought I would get a set up or something! The first time I tried to add another sound card! Thanks Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "heather albright via groups.io" <kd5cbl=gmail.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather














































Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

heather albright
 

Well, I got a creative sound card for 19 dollars and it had a 4.6 rating. I will try it out today. If it does not work, I might get one of the dacs like the fios which is created by texas instruments or the zen dac. I thought try the cheaper solution first! Anything to get away from this 5 dollar usb speaker woe!
Thank you all for all the help and I learned a lot! cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning. The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around 300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather












































Re: brave browser

heather albright
 

Oh, thank you very much  that worked! cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser

Hi Heather,

Open your brave settings, and near the top, press enter on get started. Find the first radio button called Open the new tab page. Change it to the third radio button, called Open a specific page or set of pages. Press enter on the add a new page link and type the homepage that you wish for Brave to default to.


Press enter on the additional settings button, then on the passwords link.

You may wish to uncheck the following two options

Offer to save passwords
Auto Sign-in

Cheers

Sam

.




On 18/06/2020 1:47 pm, heather albright wrote:

I was looking at the settings and could not find how to set my home page.
I also noticed it was saving my passwords say on amazon.
So I have to remember to sign out after using amazon.
I found a detorial but, it seems kind of visual, well, was done by a sighted guy who clicks and clicks when he is telling you how to use brave!
But so far I like brave!
Is there a list of shortcuts when working with it?
Is anyone going to make a tetorial like the one done for chrome?thanks
Heather

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser


Hello Hether,


I use the Brave Browser.


I am no Expert, but I use it.

 What is your question?


Grumpy Dave










Re: locating a setting in Microsoft Essentials

Gene
 

Not in Microsoft Security Essentials. I believe that, if you were using the Windows 10 version of Windows Defender, there may be such settings.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Vicki W
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:51 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] locating a setting in Microsoft Essentials


Hi,

When going through the settings in Microsoft Essentials, I didn't find anything related to e-mail or internet. Are there settings for those somewhere that I'm missing?

Thanks.

Vicki


locating a setting in Microsoft Essentials

Vicki W
 

Hi,
 
When going through the settings in Microsoft Essentials, I didn't find anything related to e-mail or internet. Are there settings for those somewhere that I'm missing?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 


Re: brave browser

Tammy Freitag
 

I am using the Brave Browser too.  Is there a way to have all tabs close without having to close each one individually?

Thanks!

Tammy

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser

 

Hi Heather,

 

Yes, Brave is my default browser on my Win-10 computers.  I find it doesn't lag as much as MS Edge or Google Chrome when issuing commands.  I know they're all chromium based browsers, but that don't mean they all work the same.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser

 

Yes. I'm a big fan of Brave. It appears to perform significantly quicker than other Windows browsers.

 

On 18/06/2020 12:19 pm, heather albright wrote:

Hay is anyone else using the brave

browser? Just curious! I am still getting used to it myself. cheers Heather




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Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

Smiling?
 

Well, with the equipment eventually going to speakers, yes.

Comparing a DAC and a sound card are similar, but all at the very same time, very different. There are many different variables within a DAC depending upon what you the purchaser actually purchases. This is true for sound cards as well though. It's isolating the event to a separate device, which is dedicated to that one specific thing and the outcomes can be very pleasant and all at the very same time, very unpleasant, too sharp etc. just like all other times, it's up to the listener to determine for him or herself because after all, they're the only one who can hear it via their senses.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:05
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

What is the difference? Are you saying it just converts the digital audio it receives to analog audio for use with analog speakers?

Isn't that what a sound card does if it has no processing turned on? It sounds to me as though a DAC is the same thing as a sound card that does nothing but convert digital to analog and nothing else.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Smiling?
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 8:18 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

DAC is actually a Digital Audio Converter hence D A C, not a decoder at all.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:03
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

A dac is a digital audio decoder, as I recall what the acronym stands for.
Itt is evidently just a decoder and will function as a sound card, playing multiple devices, except that no audio processing is done. But You should be able, yourself or with sighted help, to turn off processing in a sound card.

I don't know how prices compare, I never checked them when comparing dacs to soundcards.

But, as I understand it, if you just plug in any sound card, without installing the driver, no processing will be done either. It will use a Windows default USB driver to play the audio. People do this all the time when doing something like installing Windows if they want sound before the Windows sound card becomes operational. I did this with two sound cards many years ago and no processing occurred.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:04 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

But if someone is satisfied with the internal sound card, and they don't
sound bad at all in general, why spend seventy-five dollars? I don't know
this but it appears the person wants a sound card just for listening.
Context is important in advising people. You are talking about what you
want in terms of sound when you talk about what is acceptable or desirable.
I hope others will enter the discussion so it isn't just an I say, you say
discussion.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning.
The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The
zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high
end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around
300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar
sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound
card they were using? I always take context into account when making
recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may
matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me
and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for
all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to
upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother
board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only
issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround
sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it
started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5
dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in
gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing
research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound
card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you
thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or
external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested
too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound
cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or
not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge"
<chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running
my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech
would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their
control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following
reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to
get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore
they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you
never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want
to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending
money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't
bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer
through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look
at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on
this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it
can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up
to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather













































Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene
 

I haven't heard a hiss when using an external sound card. I have used soundcards in the roughly seventy dollar range and I can't discuss less expensive cards but I doubt that the typical user would be dissatisfied with soundcards that cost much less. I bought soundcards in that range because, many years ago, less expensive ones didn't have, at least the ones I looked at, line-in ability for recording. I didn't look at that many and this was many years ago so things may have changed. Others may want to comment.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Gene,

The point of buying a DAC is two fold.First, if you have high quality
speakers or headphones, to eliminate interferance, hissing, buzzing etc.
This is what the poster has. the second reason is to be able to play
24/32 bit audio, and MQA. MQA is the future of music, and it is
reasonable to expect a DAC to have 24/32 bit decode, and MQA ability. A
cheap USB adapter isn't a DAC in most sense, but more like a
speaker/headset. DACs which are quality have circutry, processors etc
that eliminate noise and improve clerity.

On 6/17/2020 7:04 AM, Gene wrote:
But if someone is satisfied with the internal sound card, and they don't sound bad at all in general, why spend seventy-five dollars? I don't know this but it appears the person wants a sound card just for listening. Context is important in advising people. You are talking about what you want in terms of sound when you talk about what is acceptable or desirable. I hope others will enter the discussion so it isn't just an I say, you say discussion.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning.
The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The
zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high
end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around
300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

















































Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene
 

I don't know. And I don't know what cards that statement may apply to. I have a Sound Blaster card that is a number of years old and I hear no processing or effects when just plugged in or when the driver is installed by default. So I don’t know how many cards Sound Blaster makes that may do this.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hello Gene,

Several reviews state that the creative card still does hardware level
processing and adding effects, even when no driver is installed, or even
when the supposed pure processing free direct mode is used. So this may
be incorrect.

On 6/17/2020 8:02 AM, Gene wrote:
A dac is a digital audio decoder, as I recall what the acronym stands for. Itt is evidently just a decoder and will function as a sound card, playing multiple devices, except that no audio processing is done. But You should be able, yourself or with sighted help, to turn off processing in a sound card.

I don't know how prices compare, I never checked them when comparing dacs to soundcards.

But, as I understand it, if you just plug in any sound card, without installing the driver, no processing will be done either. It will use a Windows default USB driver to play the audio. People do this all the time when doing something like installing Windows if they want sound before the Windows sound card becomes operational. I did this with two sound cards many years ago and no processing occurred.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:04 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

But if someone is satisfied with the internal sound card, and they don't
sound bad at all in general, why spend seventy-five dollars? I don't know
this but it appears the person wants a sound card just for listening.
Context is important in advising people. You are talking about what you
want in terms of sound when you talk about what is acceptable or desirable.
I hope others will enter the discussion so it isn't just an I say, you say
discussion.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning.
The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The
zen has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high
end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around
300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using? I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending? And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather

















































Re: brave browser

Sam Taylor
 

On 18/06/2020 4:53 pm, Kimsan via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone have a link so I can download brave. IE is pissing me off. Lol.

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 8:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser

 

Hi Heather,

 

Yes, Brave is my default browser on my Win-10 computers.  I find it doesn't lag as much as MS Edge or Google Chrome when issuing commands.  I know they're all chromium based browsers, but that don't mean they all work the same.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser

 

Yes. I'm a big fan of Brave. It appears to perform significantly quicker than other Windows browsers.

 

On 18/06/2020 12:19 pm, heather albright wrote:

Hay is anyone else using the brave

browser? Just curious! I am still getting used to it myself. cheers Heather


Re: brave browser

Kimsan
 

Hi,

Does anyone have a link so I can download brave. IE is pissing me off. Lol.

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 8:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser

 

Hi Heather,

 

Yes, Brave is my default browser on my Win-10 computers.  I find it doesn't lag as much as MS Edge or Google Chrome when issuing commands.  I know they're all chromium based browsers, but that don't mean they all work the same.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser

 

Yes. I'm a big fan of Brave. It appears to perform significantly quicker than other Windows browsers.

 

On 18/06/2020 12:19 pm, heather albright wrote:

Hay is anyone else using the brave

browser? Just curious! I am still getting used to it myself. cheers Heather


Re: brave browser

Sam Taylor
 

Hi Heather,

Open your brave settings, and near the top, press enter on get started. Find the first radio button called Open the new tab page. Change it to the third radio button, called Open a specific page or set of pages. Press enter on the add a new page link and type the homepage that you wish for Brave to default to.


Press enter on the additional settings button, then on the passwords link.

You may wish to uncheck the following two options

Offer to save passwords
Auto Sign-in

Cheers

Sam

.


 


On 18/06/2020 1:47 pm, heather albright wrote:

I was looking at the settings and could not find how to set my home page.
I also noticed it was saving my passwords say on amazon.
So I have to remember to sign out after using amazon.
I found a detorial but, it seems kind of visual, well, was done by a sighted guy who clicks and clicks when he is telling you how to use brave!
But so far I like brave!
Is there a list of shortcuts when working with it?
Is anyone going to make a tetorial like the one done for chrome?thanks
Heather

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser


Hello Hether,


I use the Brave Browser.


I am no Expert, but I use it.

 What is your question?


Grumpy Dave










Re: brave browser

Mike Gurney
 

Hello Heather


I've been using it for a couple of months.   I like it very much especially because it seems much faster and reliable.


Mike.

On 18/06/2020 03:19, heather albright wrote:
Hay is anyone else using the brave

browser? Just curious! I am still getting used to it myself. cheers Heather


Re: brave browser

heather albright
 

I was looking at the settings and could not find how to set my home page.
I also noticed it was saving my passwords say on amazon.
So I have to remember to sign out after using amazon.
I found a detorial but, it seems kind of visual, well, was done by a sighted guy who clicks and clicks when he is telling you how to use brave!
But so far I like brave!
Is there a list of shortcuts when working with it?
Is anyone going to make a tetorial like the one done for chrome?thanks
Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser


Hello Hether,


I use the Brave Browser.


I am no Expert, but I use it.

What is your question?


Grumpy Dave


Re: brave browser

Mike B
 

Hi Heather,
 
Yes, Brave is my default browser on my Win-10 computers.  I find it doesn't lag as much as MS Edge or Google Chrome when issuing commands.  I know they're all chromium based browsers, but that don't mean they all work the same.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] brave browser

Yes. I'm a big fan of Brave. It appears to perform significantly quicker than other Windows browsers.


On 18/06/2020 12:19 pm, heather albright wrote:
Hay is anyone else using the brave

browser? Just curious! I am still getting used to it myself. cheers Heather


Re: brave browser

Dave
 

Hello Hether,


I use the Brave Browser.


I am no Expert, but I use it.

 What is your question?


Grumpy Dave


Re: having sound issues, communication from creative

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi Gene,

The point of buying a DAC is two fold.First, if you have high quality speakers or headphones, to eliminate interferance, hissing, buzzing etc. This is what the poster has. the second reason is to be able to play 24/32 bit audio, and MQA. MQA is the future of music, and it is reasonable to expect a DAC to have 24/32 bit decode, and MQA ability. A cheap USB adapter isn't a DAC in most sense, but more like a speaker/headset. DACs which are quality have circutry, processors etc that eliminate noise and improve clerity.

On 6/17/2020 7:04 AM, Gene wrote:
But if someone is satisfied with the internal sound card, and they don't sound bad at all in general, why spend seventy-five dollars?  I don't know this but it appears the person wants a sound card just for listening. Context is important in advising people.  You are talking about what you want in terms of sound when you talk about what is acceptable or desirable. I hope others will enter the discussion so it isn't just an I say, you say discussion.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Gene,

There is no 30 dollar sound card, nothing of quality worth mentioning.
The fios dac is about 75 dollars, and is as cheap as a dac goes. The
zen  has a better price/performance ratio, and is 129. These aren't high
end dacs iether, there are several near 200 dollars, several around
300-400, and a few above 2500.

On 6/16/2020 9:56 PM, Gene wrote:
What s the cost and what is the advantage over getting a thirty dollar sound card when someone says they are satisfied with the internal sound card they were using?  I always take context into account when making recommendations of products if I know that context is available and may matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

Hi Heather,

As they recommended, I think you should get the FIO or Zen Dac, which
don't process audio, which output audio purely.

On 6/16/2020 3:15 PM, heather albright wrote:
The sound went out from the sound card off the mother board.
So I am looking to external USB connected sound cards.
I did not like the sound that my little5 dollar  USB speaker is giving me and prefer to be able to use my 3.5 bows speakers again.
I wanted to have a sound card that jaws could use and I could use it for all other audio from my MP3 library. I also watch youtube videos too.
I wanted a good quality sound card and I could take it if I have to upgrade to another pc. If things are starting to go bad off the mother board. For now it is just the sound and as far as I know that is the only issue for now! I do like  Dolby AC-3 for my media. Like the surround sound too. IT is just audio first it was the screen reader but, than it started affecting other sounds too. So that is why I pulled out my 5 dollar USB speaker so I would still have sound. I am not interested in gaming and i find that is all they talk about when I started doing research. I wish we had some blind youtubers who can show how their sound card sounds with assistive technology. And regular audio. Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Does the problem just happen with speech? How much money are you thinking of spending?  And are you currently using an internal or external soundcard?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

I am in the process of e-mailing the sound card manufactures suggested too.
I left a review and thanked them for their honesty about the sound cards. I
guess the did not test weather or not the controls were accessible or not!
Cheers Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative


Interesting. I got mine a week ago. So far it sounds great. I'm running my
mixer through it and all is well. It seems funny that garbled speech would
happen over time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues, communication from creative

This is what I got back from creative. They did not discuss their control
pannel at all. "Creative Support (Creative Labs Pte Ltd.)

Jun 16, 2020, 5:00:38 PM GMT+8

Dear Heather,

I have talked to the technical product team and we got the following reply :

"Recalling that we had some cases whereby the text to speech application
gives garbled sound on the Sound Blaster Z after some time. We are sadly
not able to confirm if our audio devices support text to speech
applications.

As audio processing may affect pure voice audio, it is recommended to get a
USB DAC that does not provide any audio processing.

Most of our USB DAC have some audio processing on the driver. Therefore they
are not recommended for your desired usage.

You may want to check out USB DAC from other manufacturers like FiiO,
AudioQuest, Audioengine that do not provide audio effects.

We are truly sorry , that we dont have anything suitable in our product
range , but I have posted your suggestion in our feedback , and you never
know , maybe it will be considered for future develeopments.-

If you are having any other inquiries now or later on, please contact us
here again.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Marcel"

So there you go, they even give suggestions to other sound cards. I want to
be able to control how my sound card puts out audio. If I am spending money
on a product, I believe I have the right to expect to be able to use all
features of that product.
cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


Please do. I just purchased a creative sound blaster Audigy. I didn't bother
installing the software because it works fine without it as I am just
running my speakers through the audio line out, and my Yamaha mixer through
the line in, but if the control panel is accessible I might take a look at
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather
albright
Sent: June 16, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Well, creative got back to me today and I have two people working on this. I
think they are going to use narrator and jaws in 40 mode to see if it can
read the controls and how it sounds. I do not know exactly. But at least
they got back to me! Will Keep everyone updated.
cheers Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I don't know honestly. I personally am looking at the Zen dac, which is
like 20 cheaper than the creative, but I think audiophile or music
orientated audio dacs are the best, as they don't have the sound
effects and such gamer cards have.

On 6/15/2020 12:44 PM, heather albright wrote:
Woe, I just so this e-mail, which brands are recommended? thanks,
Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


I would avoid the creative ones. There are reports online that the
driver software has bugs under 10, and that the direct mode, whith
enhancements disabled, isn't as neutral as it should be. Moreover,
the enhancements would mess with NVDA or JAWS, and be annoying.

On 6/12/2020 7:27 PM, heather albright wrote:
I am trying to find one that supports Dolby digital sound for my
audio files. I heard the Creative Sound Blaster was a good brand.
Has anyone used this type of sound card? Also do you have to use
proprietary software or will windows10 detect the sound card. I
keep reading about them off amazon and first they say you can plug
and goe and than they said you have to to use Creative Sound
Blaster controls to do ajustments to the sound card. That is fine
but will the drivers be accessible to jaws or NVDA? Thanks Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş"
<enes.saribas@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues


But isn't there a midrange, to high grade price range? I read
around
100-200 dollars average for a good one.

On 6/12/2020 8:45 AM, Smiling? wrote:
Honestly, as much as you the user would like to pay. Very similar
to most anything else within this world of ours and I am very
certain that this specifically was not the answer you were
seeking, but it's definitely the truth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:32
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

Hi,

How much does a very good USB soundcard cost? I bought a pair of
high res audiophile grade headphones, and the reviews say you
definately need an external DAC/soundcard to drive them to get all
the quality.

On 6/4/2020 3:15 PM, chris judge wrote:
It seems to be an issue common with dell. I have an XPS 8930,
and although I love the machine for the most part, I've had many
issues with the sound. I finally ordered a good USB sound card
and M going to forgo the onboard sound card.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 4, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

The further glories of Windows 10.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: wendy Sheld-Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 2:33 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] having sound issues

This has happened to my partner after every major Windows update.
She has a Dell Lattitude and is using JAWS. Dell had her disable
the Real Tech audio drivers so the computer would use the
computer speakers.
This does fix the issue but like I said, every major update
re-installs the Real Tech drivers again and this process starts
all over again. Hope this helps.

Wendy Walker


On 6/4/20, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hello, after the windows update, my sound is crappy, it gets
really loud and than goes really low. It saids my drivers are up to
date .
So how do I fix this issue, it is quite annoying I am using
jaws or NVDA they both have the same issue, loud and low.
Thanks Heather