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Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

james hooper
 

Did a usb cord come with it so you could connect to your pc?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.M. Kirtley
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

It has numerous buttons, a little wheel (which uses actions with the buttons, or key strokes from the computer).  It copies, prints, fax, and can be used wireless (which I didn’t bother to set up). 

 

I purchased it online and I only paid $89.00 for it.  That was about three years ago. 

 

The ink is in a drumlike container which is easily removed and changed.  I paid $15 for the ink.  Changed once since I have had it.  It can be set up to use just black or color. Don’t know if it is still available. 

 

 

Ms. Kirtley

 

 

 

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Does it have buttons or a touch scree?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.M. Kirtley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a Canon D530/D560 laser printer/scanner/fax that works well, also. 

 

Ms. E. Kirtley

 

 

~

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:29 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

E.M. Kirtley
 

It has numerous buttons, a little wheel (which uses actions with the buttons, or key strokes from the computer).  It copies, prints, fax, and can be used wireless (which I didn’t bother to set up). 
 
I purchased it online and I only paid $89.00 for it.  That was about three years ago. 
 
The ink is in a drumlike container which is easily removed and changed.  I paid $15 for the ink.  Changed once since I have had it.  It can be set up to use just black or color. Don’t know if it is still available. 
 
 
Ms. Kirtley
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier
 

Does it have buttons or a touch scree?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.M. Kirtley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a Canon D530/D560 laser printer/scanner/fax that works well, also. 

 

Ms. E. Kirtley

 

 

~

From: chris judge

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:29 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


using FiiO E10K USB DAC

heather albright
 

Well, so far this seems to be working with my desktop. The speech is not getting loud and quiet, thank god!
I have been playing with it for about an hour and I just received it this morning.
I was wondering if someone who has this

DAC can explain all the features in English for dummies.

I tried to e-mail the company and have not received a response.

I have connected to the usb port, the 3.0 usb port off the back of the desktop.

It has a knob that turns it own and the bose speakers are plugged in to the 3.5 jack off the back of the DAC, well not sure wich is the back and the front but, they are plugged in to the same side as the usb connection is on.

Their is a switch, not sure what it does, something about high gain mode and not sure what it is on.

It has 2 channels according to what I was reading off the settings for the

DAC.

It can put out adobe digital sound and microsoft sound and one other sound that was not checked.

Not sure what I should have it on for share mode it had seven settings to choose from.

So any help would be much appreciated.

Thank everyone for all the tips and help in my jerney.

Cheers Heather

 


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Gerald:
 
Thanks for the suggestion, but I have a limited space to put equipment.  The all-in-one printer I have now is about all the room I can spare.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Gerald Levy
 


Doesn't matter because this Canon printer/scanner, like the Xerox 3210, is no longer available.  Fellow list members, when you offer a product recommendation based on your own personal experience, please check first onAmazon or elsewhere to determine whether it is still available.  It is pointless to recommend a product that maybe accessible, but has been discontinued and is no longer on the market. For anyone who is interested, the Pantum P2502W wireless monochrome laser printer I mentioned previously is currently available on Amazon for $80:


https://www.amazon.com/Pantum-Monochrome-Wireless-Networking-Printing/dp/B018VN0PTI



Gerald


 

On 6/26/2020 1:44 PM, james hooper wrote:

Does it have buttons or a touch scree?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.M. Kirtley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a Canon D530/D560 laser printer/scanner/fax that works well, also. 

 

Ms. E. Kirtley

 

 

~

From: chris judge

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:29 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

james hooper
 

Does it have buttons or a touch scree?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.M. Kirtley
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a Canon D530/D560 laser printer/scanner/fax that works well, also. 

 

Ms. E. Kirtley

 

 

~

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:29 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Announcing two new lists and one new born community

Vlad Dragomir
 

hello all, glad to be back, it's been a while!
 
Preliminary notes:
1. I do apologise for the length of this email; if you do not enjoy long reads, I suggest you should skip this one.
2. Since this is only loosly related to the main topic of this list, I kindly request all those interested in this announcement to avoid responding directly to this email. Please use the provided contact details instead.
 
I have been using TeamTalk very often these months; my students seem to appreciate both the sound quality and the reliability of this platform. The client's interface does have its own logic, but it can be challenging sometimes to understand all its functionalities and be able to use it properly. I remember I spent a very long time trying to figure everything out the first time. Therefore, I decided to start a mailing list whose purpose would be to help those who have never used TeamTalk before, and also give experienced users a chance to exchange ideas and learn from each other. I expect TeamTalk Tips to be a relatively low-traffic list, but I do believe TeamTalk deserves its own list, along more popular ones like Skype, Microsoft Teams or Zoom.
 
In collaboration with a few friends, I have also made the decision of opening my own TeamTalk server to the world and try to start a new VI community. Its name is Inwards Sight, and its main multiple goals are as follows:
1. To offer a place for people to come together, spend good moments in each other's company, meet new friends and exchange thoughts and information about anything, from arts and culture to technology, accessible games, radio or any type of entertainment.
2. There'll be a space dedicated to serious learning and teaching, for those interested in learning a new skill or improving one they already have. For the time being, we are able to offer language courses, music related classes, computer/screen reader/MS office and GSuite  training,. I'm also trying to convince two professionals I know to come and teach programming and audio editing, but I'm still waiting for confirmation.
3. Last but not least, we'll try to offer live technical support for at least a few hours every week, to those who have problems with their computers and need assistance in trying to solve them.
 
We intend to keep these services open to everyone in the world, and completely free, although we'll be grateful to those who decide to donate according to their own possibilities.
 
Should you be interested in contributing to this new community, either as a friend, a student or a teacher, please do not hesitate to ask for more details, we'll be delighted to hear from anyone. We're also very grateful to all those who might be able to spread the word and tell their friends and acquaintances about this innitiative.
 
Contact:
 
If you want to join the TeamTalk Tips mailing list, you can visit this page:
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/teamtalk-tips
Alternatively, you can subscribe by sending an empty email to the following address:
teamtalk-tips+subscribe@...
 
For any questions related to Inwards Sight, or to obtain an account on our server, please send an email to metal_phoenyx@...
 
There is also a dedicated mailing list, which can be found here:
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/inwards-sight
The subscription email is:
inwards-sight+subscribe@...
 
 
Best regards and thank you for your patience, this was a very long and boring email!
 
Cheers,
 
Vlad.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Chris,

I need more information about this Laser printer issue.  You own a Xerox Work Center 3210.  I don't see that on Amazon now.  I do see something called a 3335 Work Center Mona chrome blue/white or black/white.  I am not sure quite what this means. Does it mean that this is essentially a black/white printer only?  Would the blue/white mean that the text would be in blue rather than black?  I can't determine whether the 3335 version is touch screen or has buttons.  The description doesn't say.  With touch screen printers, is there an app of some sort--any voice support?  I get not.

Thanks for any help.

On 6/26/2020 4:23 AM, chris judge wrote:
I had to purchase a new lazar toner cartridge for mine about a hear ago.
Xerox were charging almost $200. I got one on amazon for $21. I'm sure it's
a knock off, but it's served us well now for over a year.

Chris Judge



-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: June 25, 2020 11:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mary:

I have been buying all my cartridges from Amazon. Am Leary about ordering
on EBay, as am thinking the cartridges may be old.






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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Security Essentials question

Gerald Levy
 


I'm still running Windows 7, and aside from the daily database definition updates for MSE, the only other updates I receive periodically on Patch Tuesdays are updates for the Malicious Software Removal Tool (MRT).  Of course, there are no longer any security updates for Windows 7, and don't even get me started with Zero Patch.  It is still not accessible. 


Gerald



On 6/26/2020 1:09 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Vicki,
 
Since the MSSE updates is pretty much all the updates Windows 7 gets I have it set to install updates automatically, and you pick a day of the week and time of day for this to happen.  I've selected every day at 7:00 am.  My MSSE updates do come in as important updates.
I also have the following options checked / turned on:
 
Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates, checked.
 
Allow all users to install updates on this computer, checked, since I'm the only 1 that uses this computer.
 
Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new optional Microsoft software when I update, checked.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: Vicki W
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:18 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Security Essentials question

HI,
 
Does anyone know why my Security Essentials updates are showing up in optional updates rather than important updates like Defender does? I have to check for definition updates rather than have them show up on their own.
 
Do I need to change a setting?
 
Vicki
 


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Monte:
 
If it is a color printer, do you have to print something that is in color to keep the color jets from clogging?


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Gerald Levy
 


Holly, I have another suggestion.  Instead of buying an all-in-one printer/scanner/copier, which may not be accessible, why not consider a separate printer and scanner/copier?  For about $80, you could buy the Pantum P2502W wireless monochrome laser printer, which is totally accessible because it has only two buttons on the top panel, plus a rocker-style power switch, and add a separate scanner for about $120, such as an Epson Perfection model, which could also be used for copying.  I'm afraid that it may be difficult to impossible to find an all-in-one unit that is accessible without sighted help because almost all of them now have LCD displays.  Unfortunately, the Xerox 3210 all-in-one unit is no longer available, and I have no idea whether its successor model has the same control layout.  But I can tell you that the Pantum P2502W is a very good inexpensive printer that is easy to use. To be perfectly blunt, I don't think you would learn much by visiting an office products store like Staples or Office Depot, if they are even open in your area, because Covid 19 safety precautions may preclude customers from touching or handlingprinters that are on display, if they are even on display, in the first place.   The last time I visited a local Staples store, I found only a few printer/scanners on display, and the sales clerks were not very knowledgeable or helpful when I inquired about their accessibility.  Years ago, the NFB or some other blindness organization maintained a web site that listed electronic products that were known to be accessible, but I guess they could not keep it up to date, and it was discontinued.  Too bad.  


Gerald



On 6/26/2020 12:02 PM, Holly wrote:
Chris:
 
I am having trouble finding a new printer like the one you have.  It may not be available anymore.  There is an upgrade to a Xerox B215DNI Monochrome Multifunction Printer, but not sure of the controls.
 
I may call Amazon accessibility and see what they think.
 
Appreciate your help.
 
 


Re: Security Essentials question

Mike B
 

Hi Vicki,
 
Since the MSSE updates is pretty much all the updates Windows 7 gets I have it set to install updates automatically, and you pick a day of the week and time of day for this to happen.  I've selected every day at 7:00 am.  My MSSE updates do come in as important updates.
I also have the following options checked / turned on:
 
Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates, checked.
 
Allow all users to install updates on this computer, checked, since I'm the only 1 that uses this computer.
 
Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new optional Microsoft software when I update, checked.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: Vicki W
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:18 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Security Essentials question

HI,
 
Does anyone know why my Security Essentials updates are showing up in optional updates rather than important updates like Defender does? I have to check for definition updates rather than have them show up on their own.
 
Do I need to change a setting?
 
Vicki
 


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mike B
 


Hi Margaret,
 
Is it possible to get and install updated drivers so your current equipment will work with Windows 10?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly,

Could you post what you find out about the controls?  I'm finding this
thread of great interest since, apparently, I can't use the HP LaserJet
printer and Xerox scanner that I have on Windows 7 on the Windows 10 Pro
and have to switch computers to print and scan.  I'm considering an
all-in-one and would prefer buttons.

Thanks,

Margaret


On 6/26/2020 12:02 PM, Holly wrote:
> Chris:
> I am having trouble finding a new printer like the one you have. It may
> not be available anymore. There is an upgrade to a Xerox B215DNI
> Monochrome Multifunction Printer, but not sure of the controls.
> I may call Amazon accessibility and see what they think.
> Appreciate your help.
>



Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Margaret:

Will do. Won't have time til later today to call, but I will certainly let you know what I find out.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Margaret Thomas
 

Holly,

Could you post what you find out about the controls? I'm finding this thread of great interest since, apparently, I can't use the HP LaserJet printer and Xerox scanner that I have on Windows 7 on the Windows 10 Pro and have to switch computers to print and scan. I'm considering an all-in-one and would prefer buttons.

Thanks,

Margaret

On 6/26/2020 12:02 PM, Holly wrote:
Chris:
I am having trouble finding a new printer like the one you have.  It may not be available anymore.  There is an upgrade to a Xerox B215DNI Monochrome Multifunction Printer, but not sure of the controls.
I may call Amazon accessibility and see what they think.
Appreciate your help.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Chris:
 
I am having trouble finding a new printer like the one you have.  It may not be available anymore.  There is an upgrade to a Xerox B215DNI Monochrome Multifunction Printer, but not sure of the controls.
 
I may call Amazon accessibility and see what they think.
 
Appreciate your help.
 
 


Security Essentials question

Vicki W
 

HI,
 
Does anyone know why my Security Essentials updates are showing up in optional updates rather than important updates like Defender does? I have to check for definition updates rather than have them show up on their own.
 
Do I need to change a setting?
 
Vicki
 


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

And they all lived happily after.

The End

<smiling>
Ann P.


Original message:

But I responded to continued posts from her.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?
What a novel. She got her issue solved hours ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?
I didn't say file location is the problem. I'm saying that if you set the
program to ask, then you will know that the program is waiting for
information before starting a download. That frequest for information,
though not a confirmation that a download is beginning, is an indication. I
told you how to get an indication that a download is beginning, it starts
after you work with the dialog. It isn't proper accessibility but it’s a
reasonable way around the problem until or unless it is corrected.
Wdoes a sighted person see? I don't know but its been standard for years
now that browsers, unless you use the ask me where to download a file don't
ask you anything but automatically download the file to the default
location. As I recall, Firefox does the same thing and you get no
notification unless the ask me dialog is set to appear.
the file either must have been small or you must have a very fast
connection. Chrome automatically speaks download information something like
every twenty or thirty seconds during the entire download. If you are
downloading something that takes two minutes to download, are in a different
window than the browser, and are doing anything, even read to end, the
forced speech will interrupt what you are doing. You will hear download
information and read to end will stop. Anything else you are doing, if
speech is being generated, that speech will be interrupted.
If you are saying that some indication should be given when a downloade
begins, I don't disagree. But if a blind user knows that using control j in
standardized browsers has been the way to open the downloads window and see
information about downloads for a long time, then at least the blind person
can check. But having forced speech interrupt whatever you are doing, in
any window isn't accessibility. Its having information take over your
computer and most users won't have any idea that an add-on can be used to
turn off that information.
I consider that worse than not being notified when a download is occurring.
Too much speech and even worse, too muchh repetitive forced speech is often
worse than not being notified of something, especially if there is a way to
check.
But more important than this specific question is the widespread practice of
changing an interface or changing how something works in terms of
accessibility and obviously not having any blind people do the same kinds of
alfa and beta testing of the feature that the program undergoes for everyone
else. It happens time after time. A popular program is fine, then the
developers decide to make major changes in the interface and the result is
no accessibility or near worthless accessibility. Blind people complain and
the problems are fixed or made manageable in a future release, perhaps
months or more later. And the companies often don't learn a thing,
repeating the same pattern in the next major upgrade.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?
Good morning all,
I beg to differ, Gene. I don't mind *where* the thing downloads its files.
I know where that is, and I can easily get to it when I want to do that.
What I strongly object to is clicking on a download link and having the
browser sit there, silently, no progress bar, no alert tone, nothing! I
downloaded a file seven times last night, seven times, God bless it, all
because I didn't know Chrome was downloading the blessed file. It's like
people who come along and do something for you or move something or clean
something and never say a word. It aggravates me to distraction! I want to
*know* if Chrome is downloading something! I want to know when it's done
doing so!
I can find 'downloads' in This PC perfectly well. I can also move the
downloaded file if I want to do so. File location wasn't the problem at
all.
Ann P.
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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Oh, I see what you mean now. Well, the problem is moot since I downloaded the add-on. All's well now.

I also know that I should check downloads before assuming that the file didn't download properly. I think part of the problem may have been that the file was so small, the announcement, had there been one before the add-on, wasn't triggered. It was a file to allow me to listen to ACB Radio. I downloaded that little beasty seven times! Always something! <smiling> Hey, at least now I can listen to ACB Radio!

Ann P.


Original message:

I didn't say file location is the problem. I'm saying that if you set the
program to ask, then you will know that the program is waiting for
information before starting a download. That frequest for information,
though not a confirmation that a download is beginning, is an indication. I
told you how to get an indication that a download is beginning, it starts
after you work with the dialog. It isn't proper accessibility but it’s a
reasonable way around the problem until or unless it is corrected.
Wdoes a sighted person see? I don't know but its been standard for years
now that browsers, unless you use the ask me where to download a file don't
ask you anything but automatically download the file to the default
location. As I recall, Firefox does the same thing and you get no
notification unless the ask me dialog is set to appear.
the file either must have been small or you must have a very fast
connection. Chrome automatically speaks download information something like
every twenty or thirty seconds during the entire download. If you are
downloading something that takes two minutes to download, are in a different
window than the browser, and are doing anything, even read to end, the
forced speech will interrupt what you are doing. You will hear download
information and read to end will stop. Anything else you are doing, if
speech is being generated, that speech will be interrupted.
If you are saying that some indication should be given when a downloade
begins, I don't disagree. But if a blind user knows that using control j in
standardized browsers has been the way to open the downloads window and see
information about downloads for a long time, then at least the blind person
can check. But having forced speech interrupt whatever you are doing, in
any window isn't accessibility. Its having information take over your
computer and most users won't have any idea that an add-on can be used to
turn off that information.
I consider that worse than not being notified when a download is occurring.
Too much speech and even worse, too muchh repetitive forced speech is often
worse than not being notified of something, especially if there is a way to
check.
But more important than this specific question is the widespread practice of
changing an interface or changing how something works in terms of
accessibility and obviously not having any blind people do the same kinds of
alfa and beta testing of the feature that the program undergoes for everyone
else. It happens time after time. A popular program is fine, then the
developers decide to make major changes in the interface and the result is
no accessibility or near worthless accessibility. Blind people complain and
the problems are fixed or made manageable in a future release, perhaps
months or more later. And the companies often don't learn a thing,
repeating the same pattern in the next major upgrade.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?
Good morning all,
I beg to differ, Gene. I don't mind *where* the thing downloads its
files. I know where that is, and I can easily get to it when I want to
do that. What I strongly object to is clicking on a download link and
having the browser sit there, silently, no progress bar, no alert tone,
nothing! I downloaded a file seven times last night, seven times, God
bless it, all because I didn't know Chrome was downloading the blessed
file. It's like people who come along and do something for you or move
something or clean something and never say a word. It aggravates me to
distraction! I want to *know* if Chrome is downloading something! I
want to know when it's done doing so!
I can find 'downloads' in This PC perfectly well. I can also move the
downloaded file if I want to do so. File location wasn't the problem at
all.
Ann P.
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Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Monte Single
 

Same here.

 

If you have an inkjet printer,  print something at least once a week;  even if it is only a grocery list.

It’s still cheaper than new cartridges.

 

For basic printing needs,  nothing beats a black/white laser.

There are lots of them for sale for less than 100 bucks, with wireless connection.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: June-26-20 2:22 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

That’s why I bought the lazer printer. We don’t print things very often, usually just grocery lists and such, and I found my ink heads were clogging all the time. This one, as I mentioned, has all physical buttons. Copying is just a matter of dropping something on the scanner and pressing one button.

 

Chris Judge

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 10:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Hi Holly,

 

Since I'm not familiar with Epson printers, is it possible that since your printer doesn't get used very often that the ink jet nozzles are getting clogged and the machine is using more ink than normal because it has to clean the nozzles when it does get used?  I'm only mentioning this because we had this problem with an HP ink jet printer at our other house, and we got so damn tired of buying ink we gave the all in one away and bought a lazer all in one!  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Norman:

 

I will take a look on EBay.  I just want to make sure I get genuine Epson cartridges.

 

I am happy with the printer, except for the cost of the cartridges, which don’t last as long as I think they should.  I don’t do much printing, but seem to be buying a lot of ink.