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Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

chris judge
 

I had to purchase a new lazar toner cartridge for mine about a hear ago.
Xerox were charging almost $200. I got one on amazon for $21. I'm sure it's
a knock off, but it's served us well now for over a year.

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: June 25, 2020 11:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mary:

I have been buying all my cartridges from Amazon. Am Leary about ordering
on EBay, as am thinking the cartridges may be old.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

chris judge
 

That’s why I bought the lazer printer. We don’t print things very often, usually just grocery lists and such, and I found my ink heads were clogging all the time. This one, as I mentioned, has all physical buttons. Copying is just a matter of dropping something on the scanner and pressing one button.

 

Chris Judge

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 10:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Hi Holly,

 

Since I'm not familiar with Epson printers, is it possible that since your printer doesn't get used very often that the ink jet nozzles are getting clogged and the machine is using more ink than normal because it has to clean the nozzles when it does get used?  I'm only mentioning this because we had this problem with an HP ink jet printer at our other house, and we got so damn tired of buying ink we gave the all in one away and bought a lazer all in one!  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Norman:

 

I will take a look on EBay.  I just want to make sure I get genuine Epson cartridges.

 

I am happy with the printer, except for the cost of the cartridges, which don’t last as long as I think they should.  I don’t do much printing, but seem to be buying a lot of ink.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Mike:
 
I may try that.  Thanks for the suggestion. 
 
I really like the printer, but the ink is a sticking point.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mike B
 


Howdy Holly,
 
Ya know, maybe you could try just printing a little something every 3 or 4 days, or at least once a week just to give it a little ink useage and see if this helps make the cartridges last longer.  Just printing something small and not several pages only to keep the ink moving

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mike:
 
I do think this may be the issue.  I can hear the printer cycling sometimes when I turn it on, and am assuming that it is going through a cleaning cycle.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Mike:
 
I do think this may be the issue.  I can hear the printer cycling sometimes when I turn it on, and am assuming that it is going through a cleaning cycle.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Mary:

I have been buying all my cartridges from Amazon. Am Leary about ordering on EBay, as am thinking the cartridges may be old.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mike B
 


Hi Holly,
 
Since I'm not familiar with Epson printers, is it possible that since your printer doesn't get used very often that the ink jet nozzles are getting clogged and the machine is using more ink than normal because it has to clean the nozzles when it does get used?  I'm only mentioning this because we had this problem with an HP ink jet printer at our other house, and we got so damn tired of buying ink we gave the all in one away and bought a lazer all in one!  LOL 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Norman:
 
I will take a look on EBay.  I just want to make sure I get genuine Epson cartridges.
 
I am happy with the printer, except for the cost of the cartridges, which don’t last as long as I think they should.  I don’t do much printing, but seem to be buying a lot of ink.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mary Smith
 

Holly, I'm not sure if you use amazon but you might want to compare the cost of cartridges on there as well as Ebay.

On 2020-06-25 8:21 p.m., Holly wrote:
Norman:

I will take a look on EBay. I just want to make sure I get genuine Epson cartridges.

I am happy with the printer, except for the cost of the cartridges, which don’t last as long as I think they should. I don’t do much printing, but seem to be buying a lot of ink.



Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Norman:
 
I will take a look on EBay.  I just want to make sure I get genuine Epson cartridges.
 
I am happy with the printer, except for the cost of the cartridges, which don’t last as long as I think they should.  I don’t do much printing, but seem to be buying a lot of ink.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Norman
 

Holly.

Thanks for clarifying that.

Just a workaround on how you could copy without the panel.

If you have a scan app like windows scan you could scan what you want to copy and print it out. It takes a bit longer but has the advantage that you would then have digital records of whatever you copy as well.

As for a good laser printer, I'm not really sure what to say. I've always hated printer shopping as there are so many options. My best advice is spend a little more money for a better printer because you'll probably have larger cartridges.

Also, If you don't want to buy ink from epson at retail prices you can shop ebay for genuine epson cartridges. These usually are considerably cheaper than retail but you have to know exactly what you want. I'm not advocating you go out and buy aftermarket cartridges on ebay, just genuine ones. This is what i do for my hp printer and i can usually get them for at least 20% less than retail. I've already seen them at half price.


HTH.


On 6/25/2020 7:59 PM, Holly wrote:
Norman:
 
I now have an Epson Workforce 3620.  I can do everything from the computer, except copy, which I need the touchpad to do.
 
I am trying to get away from an ink jet printer, as the ink is very expensive and I don’t do any color printing.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Norman:
 
I now have an Epson Workforce 3620.  I can do everything from the computer, except copy, which I need the touchpad to do.
 
I am trying to get away from an ink jet printer, as the ink is very expensive and I don’t do any color printing.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Norman
 

Hello.

What is defined as an accessible printer/scanner?

I have an hp officejet pro 9015 which has a touch screen. However, there is no need for me to actually use that touch screen. I can plug it into my network using an ethernet cable and do everything i need to from the browser based control panel.

This includes setting up wifi and other things like that.

The only thing you need the physical control panel for is to use the copy/scan functions from the printer itself. If you have a computer you don't need it.



HTH.




On 6/25/2020 6:37 PM, chris judge wrote:

I think I bought it in either 2015 or 2016, I can’t remember for sure.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: June 25, 2020 5:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Hi Chris,

Is the Xerox work center  fairly new or something you have had for a few years

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: June-25-20 1:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

chris judge
 

I think I bought it in either 2015 or 2016, I can’t remember for sure.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: June 25, 2020 5:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Hi Chris,

Is the Xerox work center  fairly new or something you have had for a few years

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: June-25-20 1:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: How to access files and folders on BrailleNote BT32 in Windows 10?

Abbie Taylor
 


I'm afraid there's no easy way to access files on your BNT with your computer. You'll just have to put the SD card back into your computer and fix the files that way. Next time, I suggest using the unzip feature in Windows Explorer, then moving the extracted files to the SD card.  I hope that helps. 


Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Monte Single
 

Hi Chris,

Is the Xerox work center  fairly new or something you have had for a few years

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: June-25-20 1:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

E.M. Kirtley
 

I have a Canon D530/D560 laser printer/scanner/fax that works well, also. 
 
Ms. E. Kirtley
 
 
~

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier
 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

Gene
 

But I responded to continued posts from her.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

What a novel. She got her issue solved hours ago.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

I didn't say file location is the problem. I'm saying that if you set the program to ask, then you will know that the program is waiting for information before starting a download. That frequest for information, though not a confirmation that a download is beginning, is an indication. I told you how to get an indication that a download is beginning, it starts after you work with the dialog. It isn't proper accessibility but it’s a reasonable way around the problem until or unless it is corrected.

Wdoes a sighted person see? I don't know but its been standard for years now that browsers, unless you use the ask me where to download a file don't ask you anything but automatically download the file to the default location. As I recall, Firefox does the same thing and you get no notification unless the ask me dialog is set to appear.

the file either must have been small or you must have a very fast connection. Chrome automatically speaks download information something like every twenty or thirty seconds during the entire download. If you are downloading something that takes two minutes to download, are in a different window than the browser, and are doing anything, even read to end, the forced speech will interrupt what you are doing. You will hear download information and read to end will stop. Anything else you are doing, if speech is being generated, that speech will be interrupted.

If you are saying that some indication should be given when a downloade begins, I don't disagree. But if a blind user knows that using control j in standardized browsers has been the way to open the downloads window and see information about downloads for a long time, then at least the blind person can check. But having forced speech interrupt whatever you are doing, in any window isn't accessibility. Its having information take over your computer and most users won't have any idea that an add-on can be used to turn off that information.

I consider that worse than not being notified when a download is occurring.
Too much speech and even worse, too muchh repetitive forced speech is often worse than not being notified of something, especially if there is a way to check.

But more important than this specific question is the widespread practice of changing an interface or changing how something works in terms of accessibility and obviously not having any blind people do the same kinds of alfa and beta testing of the feature that the program undergoes for everyone else. It happens time after time. A popular program is fine, then the developers decide to make major changes in the interface and the result is no accessibility or near worthless accessibility. Blind people complain and the problems are fixed or made manageable in a future release, perhaps months or more later. And the companies often don't learn a thing, repeating the same pattern in the next major upgrade.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

Good morning all,

I beg to differ, Gene. I don't mind *where* the thing downloads its files. I know where that is, and I can easily get to it when I want to do that. What I strongly object to is clicking on a download link and having the browser sit there, silently, no progress bar, no alert tone, nothing! I downloaded a file seven times last night, seven times, God bless it, all because I didn't know Chrome was downloading the blessed file. It's like people who come along and do something for you or move something or clean something and never say a word. It aggravates me to distraction! I want to *know* if Chrome is downloading something! I want to know when it's done doing so!

I can find 'downloads' in This PC perfectly well. I can also move the downloaded file if I want to do so. File location wasn't the problem at all.

Ann P.

--
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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

chris judge
 

What a novel. She got her issue solved hours ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

I didn't say file location is the problem. I'm saying that if you set the program to ask, then you will know that the program is waiting for information before starting a download. That frequest for information, though not a confirmation that a download is beginning, is an indication. I told you how to get an indication that a download is beginning, it starts after you work with the dialog. It isn't proper accessibility but it’s a reasonable way around the problem until or unless it is corrected.

Wdoes a sighted person see? I don't know but its been standard for years now that browsers, unless you use the ask me where to download a file don't ask you anything but automatically download the file to the default location. As I recall, Firefox does the same thing and you get no notification unless the ask me dialog is set to appear.

the file either must have been small or you must have a very fast connection. Chrome automatically speaks download information something like every twenty or thirty seconds during the entire download. If you are downloading something that takes two minutes to download, are in a different window than the browser, and are doing anything, even read to end, the forced speech will interrupt what you are doing. You will hear download information and read to end will stop. Anything else you are doing, if speech is being generated, that speech will be interrupted.

If you are saying that some indication should be given when a downloade begins, I don't disagree. But if a blind user knows that using control j in standardized browsers has been the way to open the downloads window and see information about downloads for a long time, then at least the blind person can check. But having forced speech interrupt whatever you are doing, in any window isn't accessibility. Its having information take over your computer and most users won't have any idea that an add-on can be used to turn off that information.

I consider that worse than not being notified when a download is occurring.
Too much speech and even worse, too muchh repetitive forced speech is often worse than not being notified of something, especially if there is a way to check.

But more important than this specific question is the widespread practice of changing an interface or changing how something works in terms of accessibility and obviously not having any blind people do the same kinds of alfa and beta testing of the feature that the program undergoes for everyone else. It happens time after time. A popular program is fine, then the developers decide to make major changes in the interface and the result is no accessibility or near worthless accessibility. Blind people complain and the problems are fixed or made manageable in a future release, perhaps months or more later. And the companies often don't learn a thing, repeating the same pattern in the next major upgrade.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

Good morning all,

I beg to differ, Gene. I don't mind *where* the thing downloads its files. I know where that is, and I can easily get to it when I want to do that. What I strongly object to is clicking on a download link and having the browser sit there, silently, no progress bar, no alert tone, nothing! I downloaded a file seven times last night, seven times, God bless it, all because I didn't know Chrome was downloading the blessed file. It's like people who come along and do something for you or move something or clean something and never say a word. It aggravates me to distraction! I want to *know* if Chrome is downloading something! I want to know when it's done doing so!

I can find 'downloads' in This PC perfectly well. I can also move the downloaded file if I want to do so. File location wasn't the problem at all.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

Gene
 

No, that is part of the forced speech I am talking about. That is useful information. I wouldn't object to that as forced speech. I object to twenty or thirty second updates regarding the download as forced speech unless the user turns it on.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen West
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:37 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Cc: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

When I started using Chrome a few years ago, I have always been able
to tell when a download was complete. Chrome has always announced that
the download was complete and gave me the option to Shift F6 to the
Downloads area. I've had the same experience with the new Edge. Did I
turn on a feature in chrome without knowing it? If I did and someone
knows how this is done, can you post it for the group?

Allen

On 6/25/20, Ann Parsons <akp@...> wrote:
Morning all,

I downloaded a file seven times last night because Chrome didn't give
me any warning that it was downloading or anything. Does Chrome have
sounds that can be enabled? If so how? I'm trying to be good and use
Chrome instead of IE, but it is sometimes difficult because the darned
thing isn't configured properly. Any help appreciated.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."




Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

chris judge
 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.