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Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

chris judge
 

I think I bought it in either 2015 or 2016, I can’t remember for sure.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: June 25, 2020 5:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Hi Chris,

Is the Xerox work center  fairly new or something you have had for a few years

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: June-25-20 1:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: How to access files and folders on BrailleNote BT32 in Windows 10?

Abbie Taylor
 


I'm afraid there's no easy way to access files on your BNT with your computer. You'll just have to put the SD card back into your computer and fix the files that way. Next time, I suggest using the unzip feature in Windows Explorer, then moving the extracted files to the SD card.  I hope that helps. 


Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Monte Single
 

Hi Chris,

Is the Xerox work center  fairly new or something you have had for a few years

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: June-25-20 1:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

E.M. Kirtley
 

I have a Canon D530/D560 laser printer/scanner/fax that works well, also. 
 
Ms. E. Kirtley
 
 
~

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier
 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

Gene
 

But I responded to continued posts from her.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

What a novel. She got her issue solved hours ago.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

I didn't say file location is the problem. I'm saying that if you set the program to ask, then you will know that the program is waiting for information before starting a download. That frequest for information, though not a confirmation that a download is beginning, is an indication. I told you how to get an indication that a download is beginning, it starts after you work with the dialog. It isn't proper accessibility but it’s a reasonable way around the problem until or unless it is corrected.

Wdoes a sighted person see? I don't know but its been standard for years now that browsers, unless you use the ask me where to download a file don't ask you anything but automatically download the file to the default location. As I recall, Firefox does the same thing and you get no notification unless the ask me dialog is set to appear.

the file either must have been small or you must have a very fast connection. Chrome automatically speaks download information something like every twenty or thirty seconds during the entire download. If you are downloading something that takes two minutes to download, are in a different window than the browser, and are doing anything, even read to end, the forced speech will interrupt what you are doing. You will hear download information and read to end will stop. Anything else you are doing, if speech is being generated, that speech will be interrupted.

If you are saying that some indication should be given when a downloade begins, I don't disagree. But if a blind user knows that using control j in standardized browsers has been the way to open the downloads window and see information about downloads for a long time, then at least the blind person can check. But having forced speech interrupt whatever you are doing, in any window isn't accessibility. Its having information take over your computer and most users won't have any idea that an add-on can be used to turn off that information.

I consider that worse than not being notified when a download is occurring.
Too much speech and even worse, too muchh repetitive forced speech is often worse than not being notified of something, especially if there is a way to check.

But more important than this specific question is the widespread practice of changing an interface or changing how something works in terms of accessibility and obviously not having any blind people do the same kinds of alfa and beta testing of the feature that the program undergoes for everyone else. It happens time after time. A popular program is fine, then the developers decide to make major changes in the interface and the result is no accessibility or near worthless accessibility. Blind people complain and the problems are fixed or made manageable in a future release, perhaps months or more later. And the companies often don't learn a thing, repeating the same pattern in the next major upgrade.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

Good morning all,

I beg to differ, Gene. I don't mind *where* the thing downloads its files. I know where that is, and I can easily get to it when I want to do that. What I strongly object to is clicking on a download link and having the browser sit there, silently, no progress bar, no alert tone, nothing! I downloaded a file seven times last night, seven times, God bless it, all because I didn't know Chrome was downloading the blessed file. It's like people who come along and do something for you or move something or clean something and never say a word. It aggravates me to distraction! I want to *know* if Chrome is downloading something! I want to know when it's done doing so!

I can find 'downloads' in This PC perfectly well. I can also move the downloaded file if I want to do so. File location wasn't the problem at all.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

chris judge
 

What a novel. She got her issue solved hours ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

I didn't say file location is the problem. I'm saying that if you set the program to ask, then you will know that the program is waiting for information before starting a download. That frequest for information, though not a confirmation that a download is beginning, is an indication. I told you how to get an indication that a download is beginning, it starts after you work with the dialog. It isn't proper accessibility but it’s a reasonable way around the problem until or unless it is corrected.

Wdoes a sighted person see? I don't know but its been standard for years now that browsers, unless you use the ask me where to download a file don't ask you anything but automatically download the file to the default location. As I recall, Firefox does the same thing and you get no notification unless the ask me dialog is set to appear.

the file either must have been small or you must have a very fast connection. Chrome automatically speaks download information something like every twenty or thirty seconds during the entire download. If you are downloading something that takes two minutes to download, are in a different window than the browser, and are doing anything, even read to end, the forced speech will interrupt what you are doing. You will hear download information and read to end will stop. Anything else you are doing, if speech is being generated, that speech will be interrupted.

If you are saying that some indication should be given when a downloade begins, I don't disagree. But if a blind user knows that using control j in standardized browsers has been the way to open the downloads window and see information about downloads for a long time, then at least the blind person can check. But having forced speech interrupt whatever you are doing, in any window isn't accessibility. Its having information take over your computer and most users won't have any idea that an add-on can be used to turn off that information.

I consider that worse than not being notified when a download is occurring.
Too much speech and even worse, too muchh repetitive forced speech is often worse than not being notified of something, especially if there is a way to check.

But more important than this specific question is the widespread practice of changing an interface or changing how something works in terms of accessibility and obviously not having any blind people do the same kinds of alfa and beta testing of the feature that the program undergoes for everyone else. It happens time after time. A popular program is fine, then the developers decide to make major changes in the interface and the result is no accessibility or near worthless accessibility. Blind people complain and the problems are fixed or made manageable in a future release, perhaps months or more later. And the companies often don't learn a thing, repeating the same pattern in the next major upgrade.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

Good morning all,

I beg to differ, Gene. I don't mind *where* the thing downloads its files. I know where that is, and I can easily get to it when I want to do that. What I strongly object to is clicking on a download link and having the browser sit there, silently, no progress bar, no alert tone, nothing! I downloaded a file seven times last night, seven times, God bless it, all because I didn't know Chrome was downloading the blessed file. It's like people who come along and do something for you or move something or clean something and never say a word. It aggravates me to distraction! I want to *know* if Chrome is downloading something! I want to know when it's done doing so!

I can find 'downloads' in This PC perfectly well. I can also move the downloaded file if I want to do so. File location wasn't the problem at all.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

Gene
 

No, that is part of the forced speech I am talking about. That is useful information. I wouldn't object to that as forced speech. I object to twenty or thirty second updates regarding the download as forced speech unless the user turns it on.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen West
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:37 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Cc: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

When I started using Chrome a few years ago, I have always been able
to tell when a download was complete. Chrome has always announced that
the download was complete and gave me the option to Shift F6 to the
Downloads area. I've had the same experience with the new Edge. Did I
turn on a feature in chrome without knowing it? If I did and someone
knows how this is done, can you post it for the group?

Allen

On 6/25/20, Ann Parsons <akp@...> wrote:
Morning all,

I downloaded a file seven times last night because Chrome didn't give
me any warning that it was downloading or anything. Does Chrome have
sounds that can be enabled? If so how? I'm trying to be good and use
Chrome instead of IE, but it is sometimes difficult because the darned
thing isn't configured properly. Any help appreciated.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."




Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

chris judge
 

I have a xerox work center 3210. It has buttons and no touch screen. It works great. It’s a lazar printer/scanner/copier/fax.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 25, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Mike:

 

Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.

 

I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

Gene
 

I don't know whom you were responding to. I was completely aware of what you want. And my point is that aside from sound, you can be qquite sure a download begins by working with the ask me dialog. As I recall, it remembers your download location and shows it so you just have to tell it to save and make no changes.

There are certain standard things people should know about working with today's standardized browsers. One is turning on the ask me where to save dialog. the other is control j to open the download window if you want to monitor a download. Browsers these days generally don't show information to screen-readers unless this is done except for the nightmare forced speech Chrome imposes on blind users.

I'm not saying that knowing these things solves the accessibility probem, nor am I objecting to people wanting sounds. But what I am discussing allows you to know what is going on and allows you to do other important things.

If you don't know how to open the download window, what if a download freezes and you want to do it over. You can do so from the download Window. What if you have stopped the forced speech but still want to monitor the download? Control j is one way to do it. There is nothing wrong with using souhnds, but not to the detriment of learning about the browser itself. I want to know how to open the downloads window and start a download over from there. I don't necessarily want to return to a web site and start the download that way. It used to be, and it may still be, that the only way to cancel a download is in the download window. I remember closing Firefox, opening it again, and checking the download window only to find that a download I thought would stop when I closed the browser, and I had wanted to cancel it, resumed or started over again when I opened the browser. The only way I found to cancel it was in the downloads window.

My point is that I am providing both a work around to deal with the problem and also showing how whether you want to use something else like sounds, if you are so intent on the sound solution that you don't consider other information, you may not learn important things about a program.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:34 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

Hi all,

The location for downloads is in Chrome's settings menu. There is
nothing wrong with the ability of Chrome to download files to whatever
location you want.

I repeat! My problem was knowing *when* the browser was downloading a
file and *when* it was finished. I entitled my original post 'sounds
for Chrome' in the belief that it would be clear enough as to what I
was seeking.

Please try to read carefully, or ask for clarification before assuming
that you understand what is going on or coming off or whatever.
<smiling> It just makes conversation so much easier!

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Sounds for Chrome?

Gene
 

I didn't say file location is the problem. I'm saying that if you set the program to ask, then you will know that the program is waiting for information before starting a download. That frequest for information, though not a confirmation that a download is beginning, is an indication. I told you how to get an indication that a download is beginning, it starts after you work with the dialog. It isn't proper accessibility but it’s a reasonable way around the problem until or unless it is corrected.

Wdoes a sighted person see? I don't know but its been standard for years now that browsers, unless you use the ask me where to download a file don't ask you anything but automatically download the file to the default location. As I recall, Firefox does the same thing and you get no notification unless the ask me dialog is set to appear.

the file either must have been small or you must have a very fast connection. Chrome automatically speaks download information something like every twenty or thirty seconds during the entire download. If you are downloading something that takes two minutes to download, are in a different window than the browser, and are doing anything, even read to end, the forced speech will interrupt what you are doing. You will hear download information and read to end will stop. Anything else you are doing, if speech is being generated, that speech will be interrupted.

If you are saying that some indication should be given when a downloade begins, I don't disagree. But if a blind user knows that using control j in standardized browsers has been the way to open the downloads window and see information about downloads for a long time, then at least the blind person can check. But having forced speech interrupt whatever you are doing, in any window isn't accessibility. Its having information take over your computer and most users won't have any idea that an add-on can be used to turn off that information.

I consider that worse than not being notified when a download is occurring. Too much speech and even worse, too muchh repetitive forced speech is often worse than not being notified of something, especially if there is a way to check.

But more important than this specific question is the widespread practice of changing an interface or changing how something works in terms of accessibility and obviously not having any blind people do the same kinds of alfa and beta testing of the feature that the program undergoes for everyone else. It happens time after time. A popular program is fine, then the developers decide to make major changes in the interface and the result is no accessibility or near worthless accessibility. Blind people complain and the problems are fixed or made manageable in a future release, perhaps months or more later. And the companies often don't learn a thing, repeating the same pattern in the next major upgrade.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Sounds for Chrome?

Good morning all,

I beg to differ, Gene. I don't mind *where* the thing downloads its
files. I know where that is, and I can easily get to it when I want to
do that. What I strongly object to is clicking on a download link and
having the browser sit there, silently, no progress bar, no alert tone,
nothing! I downloaded a file seven times last night, seven times, God
bless it, all because I didn't know Chrome was downloading the blessed
file. It's like people who come along and do something for you or move
something or clean something and never say a word. It aggravates me to
distraction! I want to *know* if Chrome is downloading something! I
want to know when it's done doing so!

I can find 'downloads' in This PC perfectly well. I can also move the
downloaded file if I want to do so. File location wasn't the problem at all.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mike B
 


Yes, that's why the suggestion of checking them out in person if possible.  My wife is sighted and can't stand the touch screens either.  Whenever the need has arisen for a new all in one we will go to 3 or 4 stores that sell this kind of equipment to see what is available.  It's damn sad but, the button types are slowly vanishing if not almost entirely gone now.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mike:
 
Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.
 
I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mike B
 

Hi Heather,
 
I'm not doubting your experience with Brother tech support in the least bit, but personally I've had the exact opposite experience with their tech support, but I must also state that I haven't had to call them in over 3 years and things could have changed.  Having owned Brother, Cannon and HP machines my least favorite was Canon for several reasons, mainly the Canon ink cartridges were junk.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Well, I would stay away from brother brands their tec support really sucks and their is no accessibility. They always ask the first thing is "do you have someone sighted there to help you..."  My response, "well if you count my sighted cat and my sighted dog but unfortunately we have a language barrier, so no they cant help."
I really hate it when tec support thinks all blind people have a sighted person just hanging around to help you! And before any one  comes up with the apps that gives you sighted help, I do not use them as they present me with privacy issues! Until these become more regulated, I choose not to use them.
I think all the products should have a non visual component besides, thought their was a law out there that was going to make it so.
cheers Heather
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Hi Holly,
 
If you could go to a big office store like Staples or something so you could feel the machines, it would be better for selecting one, but having stated the obvious I did a quick search on Amazon using the following as my search string.
 
Lazer black & white copier, printer, scanner.
 
I came up with several models that would give you an idea as to what machine you might want to look for if you have a chance to go to a store.  Speaking from personal experience I would go with the Brother or HP brands.  But, you might like what you find on Amazon or a similar website as well.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:58 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Tired of buying expensive ink cartridges.  Looking for a laser printer that
is accessible.  Just black and white is all I need, but must copy, scan and
print.  Wireless would be nice, but not necessary.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Holly




Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

chris judge
 

Smile.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: June 25, 2020 3:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Well, I would stay away from brother brands their tec support really sucks and their is no accessibility. They always ask the first thing is "do you have someone sighted there to help you..."  My response, "well if you count my sighted cat and my sighted dog but unfortunately we have a language barrier, so no they cant help."

I really hate it when tec support thinks all blind people have a sighted person just hanging around to help you! And before any one  comes up with the apps that gives you sighted help, I do not use them as they present me with privacy issues! Until these become more regulated, I choose not to use them.

I think all the products should have a non visual component besides, thought their was a law out there that was going to make it so.

cheers Heather

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:32 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Hi Holly,

 

If you could go to a big office store like Staples or something so you could feel the machines, it would be better for selecting one, but having stated the obvious I did a quick search on Amazon using the following as my search string.

 

Lazer black & white copier, printer, scanner.

 

I came up with several models that would give you an idea as to what machine you might want to look for if you have a chance to go to a store.  Speaking from personal experience I would go with the Brother or HP brands.  But, you might like what you find on Amazon or a similar website as well.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:58 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

 

Tired of buying expensive ink cartridges.  Looking for a laser printer that
is accessible.  Just black and white is all I need, but must copy, scan and
print.  Wireless would be nice, but not necessary.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Holly



Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

DJ
 

I’ve been using brother laser printers for 15 years and have not had a problem. It’s even easier if you use an app like Be My Eyes. Brother laser printers are fast and work very very well.


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 2:44 PM heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Well, I would stay away from brother brands their tec support really sucks and their is no accessibility. They always ask the first thing is "do you have someone sighted there to help you..."  My response, "well if you count my sighted cat and my sighted dog but unfortunately we have a language barrier, so no they cant help."
I really hate it when tec support thinks all blind people have a sighted person just hanging around to help you! And before any one  comes up with the apps that gives you sighted help, I do not use them as they present me with privacy issues! Until these become more regulated, I choose not to use them.
I think all the products should have a non visual component besides, thought their was a law out there that was going to make it so.
cheers Heather
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Hi Holly,
 
If you could go to a big office store like Staples or something so you could feel the machines, it would be better for selecting one, but having stated the obvious I did a quick search on Amazon using the following as my search string.
 
Lazer black & white copier, printer, scanner.
 
I came up with several models that would give you an idea as to what machine you might want to look for if you have a chance to go to a store.  Speaking from personal experience I would go with the Brother or HP brands.  But, you might like what you find on Amazon or a similar website as well.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:58 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Tired of buying expensive ink cartridges.  Looking for a laser printer that
is accessible.  Just black and white is all I need, but must copy, scan and
print.  Wireless would be nice, but not necessary.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Holly




Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

heather albright
 

Well, I would stay away from brother brands their tec support really sucks and their is no accessibility. They always ask the first thing is "do you have someone sighted there to help you..."  My response, "well if you count my sighted cat and my sighted dog but unfortunately we have a language barrier, so no they cant help."
I really hate it when tec support thinks all blind people have a sighted person just hanging around to help you! And before any one  comes up with the apps that gives you sighted help, I do not use them as they present me with privacy issues! Until these become more regulated, I choose not to use them.
I think all the products should have a non visual component besides, thought their was a law out there that was going to make it so.
cheers Heather
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Hi Holly,
 
If you could go to a big office store like Staples or something so you could feel the machines, it would be better for selecting one, but having stated the obvious I did a quick search on Amazon using the following as my search string.
 
Lazer black & white copier, printer, scanner.
 
I came up with several models that would give you an idea as to what machine you might want to look for if you have a chance to go to a store.  Speaking from personal experience I would go with the Brother or HP brands.  But, you might like what you find on Amazon or a similar website as well.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:58 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Tired of buying expensive ink cartridges.  Looking for a laser printer that
is accessible.  Just black and white is all I need, but must copy, scan and
print.  Wireless would be nice, but not necessary.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Holly




Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Mike:
 
Thanks.  Just want to try to get one that does not have a touch pad, or if it does, it can also be controlled by the computer program.
 
I will check out your suggestions.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

heather albright
 

I saw that number too, might find it off an NFB list! cheers Heather ps. i will look for it too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Holly" <feyk7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier


Thanks Heather:

I remember there being a toll free number where you could access help for finding accessible appliances and electronics, but I lost the number.

Maybe someone out there has it.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Holly
 

Thanks Heather:

I remember there being a toll free number where you could access help for finding accessible appliances and electronics, but I lost the number.

Maybe someone out there has it.


Re: Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Mike B
 

Hi Holly,
 
If you could go to a big office store like Staples or something so you could feel the machines, it would be better for selecting one, but having stated the obvious I did a quick search on Amazon using the following as my search string.
 
Lazer black & white copier, printer, scanner.
 
I came up with several models that would give you an idea as to what machine you might want to look for if you have a chance to go to a store.  Speaking from personal experience I would go with the Brother or HP brands.  But, you might like what you find on Amazon or a similar website as well.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: Holly
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:58 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Wanting an accessible laser printer scanner copier

Tired of buying expensive ink cartridges.  Looking for a laser printer that
is accessible.  Just black and white is all I need, but must copy, scan and
print.  Wireless would be nice, but not necessary.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Holly




Emal problem with address.

Carolyn Arnold
 

I have a contact, whose address I mistakenly entered with a
net suffix instead of com.

That has been deleted and re-entered in the individual
address, as well as in the group entry. However, I still get
mail delivery messages that either it could not be
delivered, or that there was a delay in delivery, because of
dot net. As far as I know, that address is no longer in my
system.

My computer seems to have some kind of recent memory loss
and only remembers earlier events, ha ha.

So, does anyone have any idea where I could chase this dot
net down out of the back roads of my computer memory and get
rid of it? Any help would be appreciated,