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Re: surface pro and surface to go

heather albright
 


Ah, thank you for the info woe! Cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] surface pro and surface to go

The Go is a lot less powerful - which as with any computer, if you spend more, you can get a faster processor, more RAM etc.  But the other key difference with the Surface Go is that it runs "Windows 10 S".  That is a specific "Lite" version of Windows 10 where you can only run software you download from the Windows store.  So the regular version of most software like NVDA won't run on it.  You can convert Windows 10 S to regular Windows 10 Home, which is a one way step so you can't go back later.  I haven't used the Go but my concern would be ust how well regular Windows 10 Home would run on such a machine - the point of putting Windows 10 S on it in the first place is that it is "lighter" and will likely work better (in terms of running smoother etc) than the full featured Windows.

If anyone has a Go and has made that conversion it would be great to hear how your experience is with it.

Quentin.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:30 PM heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hay I have been googling  this what is the exact difference between the microsoft pro and the go? It seems to have all the same specs but the go is way cheaper!  The only thing i could see one is more powerful than the other and the screen size is smaller on the go. Am I missing something? cheers Heather
"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
 

sites
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
an accessibil library for the blind:
www.bookshare.org



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: surface pro and surface to go

Quentin Christensen
 

The Go is a lot less powerful - which as with any computer, if you spend more, you can get a faster processor, more RAM etc.  But the other key difference with the Surface Go is that it runs "Windows 10 S".  That is a specific "Lite" version of Windows 10 where you can only run software you download from the Windows store.  So the regular version of most software like NVDA won't run on it.  You can convert Windows 10 S to regular Windows 10 Home, which is a one way step so you can't go back later.  I haven't used the Go but my concern would be ust how well regular Windows 10 Home would run on such a machine - the point of putting Windows 10 S on it in the first place is that it is "lighter" and will likely work better (in terms of running smoother etc) than the full featured Windows.

If anyone has a Go and has made that conversion it would be great to hear how your experience is with it.

Quentin.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:30 PM heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:
Hay I have been googling  this what is the exact difference between the microsoft pro and the go? It seems to have all the same specs but the go is way cheaper!  The only thing i could see one is more powerful than the other and the screen size is smaller on the go. Am I missing something? cheers Heather
"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
 

sites
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
an accessibil library for the blind:
www.bookshare.org



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


surface pro and surface to go

heather albright
 

Hay I have been googling  this what is the exact difference between the microsoft pro and the go? It seems to have all the same specs but the go is way cheaper!  The only thing i could see one is more powerful than the other and the screen size is smaller on the go. Am I missing something? cheers Heather
"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
 

sites
National Federation of The Blind:
www.nfb.org
an accessibil library for the blind:
www.bookshare.org


Re: HDD Needs Drive Letter

Sam Taylor <sjt1982@...>
 

Hi Georges,

Go to disk management by running diskmgmt.msc

Find the partition you wish to manage, right click and choose the change drive letter command. Then assign a drive letter.

Cheers

Sam


On 26/07/2020 3:48 pm, George Zaynoun wrote:
I have an HP laptop that can accomodate M2SATA SSD which is already installed and working properly, there is also a free compartment for another HDD or SSD standard size, I installed it and it is 1TB. In device manager it is working properly but it did not get a drive letter as it appears. How can I fix it? The installed HDD is partitioned and formatted with another laptop using usb so it should work.


Zoom F6

Terri N.
 

Hi folks,
Do any of you out there know of a zoom F6 users group specifically for blind folks? I need help. Thanks

You can fill your ears with music and your mouth with food, but, music won’t make you fat.
ternord54@...

On Jul 26, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Samuel Wilkins <soundsam@...> wrote:

Hello All, does anyone know where I can get some old Sapi voices? I am looking for the L&H Michael and Michel US voices, and the L&H Carole and Peter UK voices. I did find a copy of the latter, but it didn't work with NVDA on my Windows 10. Thank you.

--
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins


Old Sapi Voices

Samuel Wilkins
 

Hello All, does anyone know where I can get some old Sapi voices?  I am looking for the L&H Michael and Michel US voices, and the L&H Carole and Peter UK voices.  I did find a copy of the latter, but it didn't work with NVDA on my Windows 10.  Thank you.

--
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins


in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

Jim Rawls
 

Hi, all, for example, there are messages in my in box that the subject line begins, might be interest stop control panel...  how can I delete all those messages at once? I am running windows ten, jaws 2020, and outlook 2019. Thanks for your help. Jim


Re: a couple games..?

Norma A. Boge
 

You might be able to find the games on

https://audiogames.net/

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Hooley
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 10:54 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a couple games..?

 

Are you on the Blind Gamers list?

 blind-gamers+subscribe@groups.io

Maybe you'll find your answer there.

 

Hth,

 

On 7/25/2020 9:17 PM, Jim Wohlgamuth wrote:

Hi there GROUP!
After receiving my windows update this afternoon I lost my Solitaire and chess games.  I had a Win 7 version of solitaire which worked extremely well with jaws. Also, I had a chess game that also worked with jaws.  After my windows update both these games disappeared..? Does anyone know where I can get a Win 7 version of Solitaire and a chess game that will work with JAWs? Thanks Much! Have A Good 1!
de
<wohlggie@...><KF8lT><Jim Wohlgamuth>.


Re: a couple games..?

Sharon Hooley
 

Are you on the Blind Gamers list?

 blind-gamers+subscribe@groups.io

Maybe you'll find your answer there.


Hth,


On 7/25/2020 9:17 PM, Jim Wohlgamuth wrote:

Hi there GROUP!
After receiving my windows update this afternoon I lost my Solitaire and chess games.  I had a Win 7 version of solitaire which worked extremely well with jaws. Also, I had a chess game that also worked with jaws.  After my windows update both these games disappeared..? Does anyone know where I can get a Win 7 version of Solitaire and a chess game that will work with JAWs? Thanks Much! Have A Good 1!
de
<wohlggie@...><KF8lT><Jim Wohlgamuth>.


Vocalizer

Michael Rodgerson
 

I have Vocalizer as my speech program and changed to one of the system
voices, how do I change it back?

Thank you


HDD Needs Drive Letter

George Zaynoun
 

I have an HP laptop that can accomodate M2SATA SSD which is already installed and working properly, there is also a free compartment for another HDD or SSD standard size, I installed it and it is 1TB. In device manager it is working properly but it did not get a drive letter as it appears. How can I fix it? The installed HDD is partitioned and formatted with another laptop using usb so it should work.

--
Georges Zeinoun
Timmerv. 6A ITR LGH1102, 54163 SKÖVDE SWEDEN
Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29 Mobile: +46 (70) 366 63 29


Re: At&T accessibility

Donna
 

Ok, after reading everyones comments, that the My AT&T app is accessible, I deleted the app from my device & reinstalled it. I'm happy to report that the My AT&T app is accessible.

Donna


Joseph, I think the My AT&T app accessibility was broken with the most recent update to the app. I rarely use the app, so I can't say exactly when the app became unusable with voiceover.

Donna


What the heck? The my AT&T app is no longer accessible it was whenever I had it a while back and it looked pretty accessible. I can always reinstall it again and ask my brother if I could look at his deal. Because I used to be on his account. The only thing that was a little weird, was when they sent you your bill, it was in a video so he had to tell me what I owed him.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 25, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Donna <mermaid7@...> wrote:
Marie,

I access AT&T's website & mail via Safari on my iPhone or iPad. Both are accessible. The My AT&T app is not accessible using an iDevice. Sorry I can't comment on any accessibility from a computer user standpoint. I have been an AT&T customer since 1996. I have landline phone service, cellular service & internet. I have found customer service to be Excellent. And the customer reps at the AT&T stores to be professional, friendly & very helpful.

Donna


I am considering changing to AT&T internet and a streaming package. I already know that their streaming package is very accessible with the Apple devices. But I want to know how it is to use their web site and their email. I am currently with Spectrum and their sites are not simple but usable. Not too happy with the streaming package so far as usability.

The aT&T service here in Reno is Fiber optics so the equipment is good.










Re: At&T accessibility

Donna
 

Joseph, I think the My AT&T app accessibility was broken with the most recent update to the app. I rarely use the app, so I can't say exactly when the app became unusable with voiceover.

Donna


What the heck? The my AT&T app is no longer accessible it was whenever I had it a while back and it looked pretty accessible. I can always reinstall it again and ask my brother if I could look at his deal. Because I used to be on his account. The only thing that was a little weird, was when they sent you your bill, it was in a video so he had to tell me what I owed him.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 25, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Donna <mermaid7@...> wrote:

Marie,

I access AT&T's website & mail via Safari on my iPhone or iPad. Both are accessible. The My AT&T app is not accessible using an iDevice. Sorry I can't comment on any accessibility from a computer user standpoint. I have been an AT&T customer since 1996. I have landline phone service, cellular service & internet. I have found customer service to be Excellent. And the customer reps at the AT&T stores to be professional, friendly & very helpful.

Donna


I am considering changing to AT&T internet and a streaming package. I already know that their streaming package is very accessible with the Apple devices. But I want to know how it is to use their web site and their email. I am currently with Spectrum and their sites are not simple but usable. Not too happy with the streaming package so far as usability.

The aT&T service here in Reno is Fiber optics so the equipment is good.








a couple games..?

Jim Wohlgamuth
 

Hi there GROUP!
After receiving my windows update this afternoon I lost my Solitaire and chess games.  I had a Win 7 version of solitaire which worked extremely well with jaws. Also, I had a chess game that also worked with jaws.  After my windows update both these games disappeared..? Does anyone know where I can get a Win 7 version of Solitaire and a chess game that will work with JAWs? Thanks Much! Have A Good 1!
de
<wohlggie@...><KF8lT><Jim Wohlgamuth>.


Re: At&T accessibility

Sean Paul
 

I’ve never had one issue using the AT&T app on my iPhone. I pay my bill, check my data usage even though it’s unlimited, I’ve now set up auto pay, etc.

Sean Paul informs y'all from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2020, at 20:58, Donna <mermaid7@...> wrote:

Marie,

I access AT&T's website & mail via Safari on my iPhone or iPad. Both are accessible. The My AT&T app is not accessible using an iDevice. Sorry I can't comment on any accessibility from a computer user standpoint. I have been an AT&T customer since 1996. I have landline phone service, cellular service & internet. I have found customer service to be Excellent. And the customer reps at the AT&T stores to be professional, friendly & very helpful.

Donna


I am considering changing to AT&T internet and a streaming package. I already know that their streaming package is very accessible with the Apple devices. But I want to know how it is to use their web site and their email. I am currently with Spectrum and their sites are not simple but usable. Not too happy with the streaming package so far as usability.

The aT&T service here in Reno is Fiber optics so the equipment is good.






Re: punctuation levels in jaws

Monte Single
 

Hi Mike,

 

I don’t understand the finer points of baseball,  but I suspect  you play shortstop.

You’re always on the ball.

I’ll read through your directions carefully and choose the path that is closest to idiot proof.

 

Thanks a migful,

 

Monte

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: July 25, 2020 7:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] punctuation levels in jaws

 

Monte,

 

Jaws doesn't have a shortcut keystroke for quickly accessing punctuation levels, but below are steps for creating 1.  Below the steps are 3 ways to change punctuation levels the traditional ways.

 

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager, go to, Keyboard Manager, press enter, navigate to, Default, & tab 1 time to get into the list of options. 
Or, you can go directly from within any program to its JAWS Keyboard Manager (.JKM) by pressing, Insert / Jaws Key + 8, on the number row, then press,
Control, Shift, + D, to open the DEFAULT JAWS Keyboard Manager.
2. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to, Set Punctuation Level none.  None means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
3. Press the, Alt key, to open the menues, & right arrow to, Action, down arrow to, Add Keystroke..., & press enter.  Or, press, control + A, is the shortcut
keystroke for, asigning a keystroke.
4. Insert a keystroke combination like, control + dash, for example. if the combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you. 
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used in all aplications.
5. Tab to the, Okay button, press the spacebar, a dialogue will open asking if you're sure you want to modify the default JKM, press the spacebar on the,
Yes, option.
 
Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the punctuation level.  So, press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the punctuation
level you want.
 
If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke open the Keyboard Manager, Find Default, Find Set Punctuation Level, press the, Alt key, right arrow
to Action, & arrow down to make your choice of what you want to do.
 
*** 

 Here are 3 ways of changing the punctuation level setting:
#1.  For an individual application using Jaws Quick Settings:
1. While in any application / program press, Insert + V, to open the Jaws quick settings.
2. In the search field type, punctuation, or just the 1st 4 letters will work as well and it'll take a second for the list to populate.  You should hear
something like, Punctuation 1 of 1 search results.  Now down arrow and you should hear Jaws report, punctuation... with the ... meaning your current level
setting.  Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation level options.  They are None, Some, Most & All.
3. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.
 
 
 
#2.  To change the punctuation level for an individual application in the Settings Center:
1. Open the Settings Center by pressing, Insert + 6, on the number row.
2. Down arrow to, Punctuation closed, and right arrow to open.
3. Down arrow 2 times to, Punctuation level..., the ... is the current level you're set on.  Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation
level options.  They are None, Some, Most & All.
4. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and
close.
 
#3. To change the punctuation level for all applications in Settings Center default all applications:
1. Open the Settings Center by pressing, Insert + 6, on the number row, now press, control, shift + D, to open Settings Center default all applications.
2. Down arrow to, Punctuation closed, and right arrow to open.
3. Down arrow 2 times to, Punctuation level..., the ... is the current level you're set on.  Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation
level options.  They are None, Some, Most & All.
4. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 6:17 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] punctuation levels in jaws

 

Yes,

What is the key combo in jaws to bring up the punctuation level selector?

 

Thanks,

Monte


Re: At&T accessibility

enes sarıbaş
 

Well, I wish they would put the money they spent on stock buybacks and paying shareholders on upgrading their terrible dsl service areas. The worst thing, they charge the exact same price for dsl as fiber or VDSL service.

On 7/25/2020 8:35 PM, heather albright wrote:
I hate atnt, accessibility is a freaken joke with them. I always remind them of this when someone calls trying to sell something to me. Heck, they still have not followed the law with accessible set-top boxes with uverse! Which, I think they do not have anymore anyways. Good luck! Heather
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <mermaid7@...>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] At&T accessibility


Marie,

I access AT&T's website & mail via Safari on my iPhone or iPad. Both are accessible. The My AT&T app is not accessible using an iDevice. Sorry I can't comment on any accessibility from a computer user standpoint. I have been an AT&T customer since 1996. I have landline phone service, cellular service & internet. I have found customer service to be Excellent. And the customer reps at the AT&T stores to be professional, friendly & very helpful.

Donna


I am considering changing to AT&T internet and a streaming package. I already know that their streaming package is very accessible with the Apple devices. But I want to know how it is to use their web site and their email. I am currently with Spectrum and their sites are not simple but usable. Not too happy with the streaming package so far as usability.

The aT&T service here in Reno is Fiber optics so the equipment is good.









Re: At&T accessibility

heather albright
 

I hate atnt, accessibility is a freaken joke with them. I always remind them of this when someone calls trying to sell something to me. Heck, they still have not followed the law with accessible set-top boxes with uverse! Which, I think they do not have anymore anyways. Good luck! Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna" <mermaid7@...>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] At&T accessibility


Marie,

I access AT&T's website & mail via Safari on my iPhone or iPad. Both are accessible. The My AT&T app is not accessible using an iDevice. Sorry I can't comment on any accessibility from a computer user standpoint. I have been an AT&T customer since 1996. I have landline phone service, cellular service & internet. I have found customer service to be Excellent. And the customer reps at the AT&T stores to be professional, friendly & very helpful.

Donna


I am considering changing to AT&T internet and a streaming package. I already know that their streaming package is very accessible with the Apple devices. But I want to know how it is to use their web site and their email. I am currently with Spectrum and their sites are not simple but usable. Not too happy with the streaming package so far as usability.

The aT&T service here in Reno is Fiber optics so the equipment is good.




Re: punctuation levels in jaws

Mike B
 

Monte,
 
Jaws doesn't have a shortcut keystroke for quickly accessing punctuation levels, but below are steps for creating 1.  Below the steps are 3 ways to change punctuation levels the traditional ways.
 
1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager, go to, Keyboard Manager, press enter, navigate to, Default, & tab 1 time to get into the list of options. 
Or, you can go directly from within any program to its JAWS Keyboard Manager (.JKM) by pressing, Insert / Jaws Key + 8, on the number row, then press,
Control, Shift, + D, to open the DEFAULT JAWS Keyboard Manager.
2. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to, Set Punctuation Level none.  None means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
3. Press the, Alt key, to open the menues, & right arrow to, Action, down arrow to, Add Keystroke..., & press enter.  Or, press, control + A, is the shortcut
keystroke for, asigning a keystroke.
4. Insert a keystroke combination like, control + dash, for example. if the combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you. 
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used in all aplications.
5. Tab to the, Okay button, press the spacebar, a dialogue will open asking if you're sure you want to modify the default JKM, press the spacebar on the,
Yes, option.
 
Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the punctuation level.  So, press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the punctuation
level you want.
 
If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke open the Keyboard Manager, Find Default, Find Set Punctuation Level, press the, Alt key, right arrow
to Action, & arrow down to make your choice of what you want to do.
 
*** 
 Here are 3 ways of changing the punctuation level setting:
#1.  For an individual application using Jaws Quick Settings:
1. While in any application / program press, Insert + V, to open the Jaws quick settings.
2. In the search field type, punctuation, or just the 1st 4 letters will work as well and it'll take a second for the list to populate.  You should hear
something like, Punctuation 1 of 1 search results.  Now down arrow and you should hear Jaws report, punctuation... with the ... meaning your current level
setting.  Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation level options.  They are None, Some, Most & All.
3. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.
 
 
 
#2.  To change the punctuation level for an individual application in the Settings Center:
1. Open the Settings Center by pressing, Insert + 6, on the number row.
2. Down arrow to, Punctuation closed, and right arrow to open.
3. Down arrow 2 times to, Punctuation level..., the ... is the current level you're set on.  Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation
level options.  They are None, Some, Most & All.
4. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and
close.
 
#3. To change the punctuation level for all applications in Settings Center default all applications:
1. Open the Settings Center by pressing, Insert + 6, on the number row, now press, control, shift + D, to open Settings Center default all applications.
2. Down arrow to, Punctuation closed, and right arrow to open.
3. Down arrow 2 times to, Punctuation level..., the ... is the current level you're set on.  Now press the spacebar to toggle through your punctuation
level options.  They are None, Some, Most & All.
4. When you hear the level setting you want stop pressing the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 6:17 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] punctuation levels in jaws

Yes,

What is the key combo in jaws to bring up the punctuation level selector?

 

Thanks,

Monte


Re: At&T accessibility

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Oh OK that explains it.

On Jul 25, 2020, at 8:27 PM, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:

Hi,

The first bill is a video. But all others are just e-mails with a regular bill amount.

On 7/25/2020 8:25 PM, joseph hudson wrote:
What the heck? The my AT&T app is no longer accessible it was whenever I had it a while back and it looked pretty accessible. I can always reinstall it again and ask my brother if I could look at his deal. Because I used to be on his account. The only thing that was a little weird, was when they sent you your bill, it was in a video so he had to tell me what I owed him.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 25, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Donna <mermaid7@...> wrote:

Marie,

I access AT&T's website & mail via Safari on my iPhone or iPad. Both are accessible. The My AT&T app is not accessible using an iDevice. Sorry I can't comment on any accessibility from a computer user standpoint. I have been an AT&T customer since 1996. I have landline phone service, cellular service & internet. I have found customer service to be Excellent. And the customer reps at the AT&T stores to be professional, friendly & very helpful.

Donna

I am considering changing to AT&T internet and a streaming package. I already know that their streaming package is very accessible with the Apple devices. But I want to know how it is to use their web site and their email. I am currently with Spectrum and their sites are not simple but usable. Not too happy with the streaming package so far as usability.

The aT&T service here in Reno is Fiber optics so the equipment is good.