Date   

Listening to Secure Streams via a Browser

Steve Matzura
 

I am, among other things, the guy who keeps the lights on and the music playing at the Global Voice. I was told a couple months back that listening to our stream with a browser didn't work because there was some kind of problem regarding the fact that modern browsers want all streaming connections to be secure. OK, so I implemented a secure listening connection through the plugin that serves the stream from our Web page, and it works for only some browsers. Firefox is the only browser in which I can listen to our stream from our Web page any time all the time. Chromium browsers (Chrome, Brave, Edge) just don't work. However, if I open Chrome and supply the secure stream address in the address field, a player window opens, and I can listen. I'm really bustin' rocks trying to figure out whether the problem is with the browser, the stream-serving software (Icecast), the secure socket layer (SSL) key file, or the Radio Station plugin. I know--a complex chain, hard to debug. I don't think it's Radio Station or Icecast or the SSL key because it works in Firefox. I can't find anything in Chrome that even looks like a culprit on which to hang this problem. If anyone knows anything or has any ideas about how to even debug this, I'd be greatly interested in hearing from them.


TIA


Re: Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?

John Holcomb II
 

The mail client works as does Outlook and Thunderbird

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 2:32 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io; TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?

 

Hi, everyone,

Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?

Also, what email clients work well with windows ten and jaws 2020?

Thank you so much for any help.

 


Re: Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?

Loy
 

Below is a link that I copied from a previous email that might be of help.
I've done a thunderbird starter audio demonstration tutorial a while
ago for the new users of the client.
the link contains the audio file plus a few text files might be of
help for the new users.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/83fyh408eg0d86n/Thunderbird%20Files.zip?dl=1
TC


On 2/17/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> The problem isn't the commands.  The interface is the same, once you get to
>
> the right place.
> Once you open the program, use f6 to move to the folders' tree view and once
>
> more to move to the messages list.  You could use f6 to get to the folders'
>
> list and then tab to get to the message list but when you are opening the
> program and moving to where you want to work, f6 is the most convenient way
>
> to move from the folders treeview to the message list.
>
>
> the program is very similar in a lot of ways.  Ask if you have further
> questions and problems.
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Pearson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:42 PM
> To: blindtech@groups.io
> Subject: [BlindTech] Mazilla Thunderbird
>
> Hi all:
>
>
> My Windows Live Mail e-mail program is "kaput", so had to change to
> Thunderbird.  Was pretty comfortable with WLM(with Windows7), but
> feeling pretty lost usingT-bird  with Jaws,and could use some assistance
> with key commands for accessing inbox, address book, etc.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
>
> David S. Pearson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 2:32 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?

Hi, everyone,
Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?
Also, what email clients work well with windows ten and jaws 2020?
Thank you so much for any help.
 


Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?

Jamie
 

Hi, everyone,
Does anyone have a tutorial on using the email client thunderbird?
Also, what email clients work well with windows ten and jaws 2020?
Thank you so much for any help.
 


Re: Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

Marie Nelson
 

If using Outlook, go into the all mail folder and select as many as possible at a time and just press the delete key. Then go and empty the trach folder. This is the only way I have been able to permanently delete these email copies. HTH
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:34 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in
which every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand
emails in one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of
these emails with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of
them return when I go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid
of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Re: Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

gbmagoo@...
 

You need to do it through your google account

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich DeSteno
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 06:34
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which every email received or sent is copied. I have over 170 thousand emails in one of these folders. I have now permanently deleted all of these emails with shift-delete and they do disappear. However, all of them return when I go back into my email. How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


Deleting from GMail "All Mail" folders

Rich DeSteno
 

My Mail accounts in Thunderbird have folders entitled "All Mail" in which every email received or sent is copied.  I have over 170 thousand emails in one of these folders.  I have now permanently deleted all of these emails with shift-delete and they do disappear.  However, all of them return when I go back into my email.  How do I permanently get rid of this garbage?


--
Rich De Steno


JAWS2021 February Update build J2021.2102.34 Download Link + What's New

Mike B.
 

 Hi all,
 
Below is the February update for J2021 build 2102.34 direct download link + what's new.
 
32 & 64 bit download link:
 
 
What's new:
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2102.34 (February 2021)
The following is a list of improvements made between the January 2021 release and the February 2021 update.
 
Virtual Cursor Support Now Available in Windows 10 Universal Apps
The Virtual PC Cursor, used to read web pages, PDF documents, and emails in JAWS and Fusion, has been extended to work in Windows universal applications.
Universal apps are usually obtained from the Microsoft Store, however some apps, such as Weather or the Calculator, are pre-installed as part of Windows.
Once the Virtual Cursor is enabled in a universal app, it greatly improves the reading experience by allowing you to:
list of 4 items
• Use the ARROW  keys to navigate the app's contents just like a web page.
• Use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly move to specific elements like Regions, Headings, lists, tables, form fields, and more.
• Display a list of links ( INSERT+F7 ), headings ( INSERT+F6 ), and form controls ( INSERT+F5 ).
• Use Forms Mode to type text or interact with other controls.
list end
Currently, Weather is the only app where the Virtual Cursor is on by default. As you use other universal apps, press INSERT+Z to manually activate the
Virtual Cursor and try navigating to see if you notice any improvements with how JAWS reads.
Pressing INSERT+Z is used to toggle the Virtual Cursor in HTML applications. However, if focus is in a universal app, pressing INSERT+Z results in JAWS
announcing that the Virtual Cursor is toggled for UWP (Universal Windows Platform) apps and the UWP virtual cursor is temporarily toggled for the current
UWP app. If you decide you want the UWP Virtual Cursor enabled by default for a particular app, open Settings Center (INSERT+6 on the number row) from
the app and select the Enable Virtual Cursor for Windows Universal Apps check box.
Note: While the Virtual Cursor may greatly improve the experience when using certain universal apps, there will be many of these apps where there is really
no need for the Virtual Cursor. A great example where users will not need to use the Virtual Cursor is the Windows Calculator as it works well using the
default cursor and you can easily navigate using the TAB Key and ARROW keys to find all controls. The Calculator doesn’t have static text like in the Weather
app that you would need to read.
Other Changes
list of 16 items
• When focused in a Teams chat, pressing INSERT+T  now indicates the current status of the other participant along with the window title.
• If focused on a link and you press INSERT+F1  for screen-sensitive help, the link address is displayed at the top of the help window. This enables you
to quickly verify the source of a link in an email message or on a web page if there is concern that it could be a phishing link.
• You can now type text from a braille display into a Microsoft Teams chat using contracted braille input.
• Added a new JAWS Dictionary entry for "QA."
• In Google Docs, resolved an issue where an extra "blank" announcement was heard when reading by word.
• Resolved reported issues that occurred when trying to re-authenticate credentials for an online Microsoft account. After typing the first character,
JAWS exited Forms Mode and you were unable to complete the process with JAWS running.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the state of check boxes in the Grammar Settings dialog box of the Proofing options
for Word.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS was not reading as expected when attempting to search for special characters in Word, such as a manual page break.
 
• If a graphic in a Word document is selected and the document contains multiple graphics, when the TAB  key is used to move through the different graphics,
JAWS now announces the kind of image and its text alignment. Additionally, the type of image is indicated when reading the current line, and reading by
word or character indicates the alignment and dimensions of the image. If you prefer not to hear the alignment and dimensions of graphics, open Quick Settings
( INSERT+V ) and clear the Include Graphical Dimensions  and Include Graphic Alignment Description  check boxes.
• Addressed issues with JAWS sometimes double speaking in Microsoft Office when toggling bold, italics, or underline.
• Resolved reported issues of Volume fluctuating with JAWS and Fusion while navigating Word documents using the Proof Reading Scheme. Moving quickly through
the document with the ARROW  keys was much worse than navigating slowly and letting it finish reading.
• Resolved a PowerPoint issue related to opening a slide show using something referred to as “Browsed by an individual (window)” rather than the expected,
“Presented by Speaker (full screen). Microsoft has now added a change to UIA in PowerPoint versions greater than 16.0.13517 which allows JAWS to read the
slide show in either case.
• When editing Alt text for graphics in PowerPoint using a braille display, resolved a reported issue where cursor routing was not working as expected.
 
• Resolved an issue where the Avoid Speech Cut Off feature stopped working when using the Sound Cards  option in the JAWS Utilities menu to switch to another
sound device.
• For users experiencing issues with JAWS and Fusion not reading as expected in the Windows 10 Start Menu, as well as in Universal apps including Weather
or Calculator, open JAWS Settings Center ( INSERT+6 ), press CTRL+SHIFT+D  to load the Default File, search for "start", and select the Start menu: Access-Out-of-Process
 check box.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS language detection on web pages was not working as expected for Mandarin text, even if the page used the correct
language tags and a Mandarin Vocalizer Expressive voice was installed. Note that this change only affects the default Vocalizer Expressive voice profile
for each language. Refer to this
Technical Support Notice
 for details on applying this change to any custom voice profiles.
list end

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Re: Question about Win amp

Jim Rawls
 

six am having similar issues. I can’t select anything. If I install wimp 5.66, I can’t select skins, or file types etc. Jim

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 10:04 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Question about Winamp

 

Hi guys,

I have a problem with Winamp on a Windows  7 machine.  This is version 5.5 and when I go in to preferences, I can not tab through the options.  The tree view is there with the list of categories but you can not tab through the options that should be there.  On this computer, I have version 5.623 and everything works as expected.  The preferences behave as they should.  Is it the version?  I can't even select classic skins to make sure that is set up correctly.  Is this a Windows 7 issue?  Any help is appreciated.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.


Question about Winamp

Kay Malmquist
 

Hi guys,
I have a problem with Winamp on a Windows  7 machine.  This is version 5.5 and when I go in to preferences, I can not tab through the options.  The tree view is there with the list of categories but you can not tab through the options that should be there.  On this computer, I have version 5.623 and everything works as expected.  The preferences behave as they should.  Is it the version?  I can't even select classic skins to make sure that is set up correctly.  Is this a Windows 7 issue?  Any help is appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.


Re: Gotta move on from Outlook 2007

Gene
 

It isn't a question of the operating system. The message is appearing because Windows 7 isn't receiving updated information about new certificates. It no longer knows your e-mail server has a valid certificate.

Whether you can update certificates manually in Outlook 7 and how is something I don't know. I am not sure of this but I suspect that certificates were updated as part of Windows updates for that version of Outlook in the past and those are not being provided anymore, Outlook 2007 no longer being supported.

So the questions are, does it matter if you get this message? You know your server is legitimate and is there a way to manually get certificate updates.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Gotta move on from Outlook 2007

Hi. Yes, I got your message. Interestingly I have outlook 2007 on all 4
machines. 2 are Win7 and 2 are Win 10. This computer is Win7 but my Win10
computer in the other room flags up the same message. I've not checked the
other two computers but I would imagine they too will give the same
notification. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 17 February 2021 15:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Gotta move on from Outlook 2007

The first question is if it matters that you are receiving this message when

using e-mail. You know your server is legitimate, who knows how many years
you have been using it. But there may be a command to refresh information
about certificates in the e-mail program and other people may know it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:00 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Gotta move on from Outlook 2007



Hi all. I've been using outlook 2007 for many years, as I remember it it
was the last version before outlook went fully ribboned. However for the
last few days I'm getting the message each time I launch the programme
stating that the server certificate cannot be verified and there are two
buttons, one to confirm I want to use that server anyway and the second to
say no. If I say yes I can still receive and send emails as I'm doing now
but 2007 is along time back, especially when it comes to computers etc. So
as I am used to outlook what is the best version for accessibility. I have
4 computers and they are using either Jaws 2018, 2019 or 2020.



There was a time when I saw posts on lists like this complaining that their

outlook 2016 was giving them mega problems and it makes me wonder if Outlook

2016 is a troublesome version. My computer guy can get for me outlook 2010,

2013, 2016 and 2019. Which of these versions would you recommend? Your
help as always is appreciated. Walter.


Re: Gotta move on from Outlook 2007

Walter Ramage
 

Hi. Yes, I got your message. Interestingly I have outlook 2007 on all 4
machines. 2 are Win7 and 2 are Win 10. This computer is Win7 but my Win10
computer in the other room flags up the same message. I've not checked the
other two computers but I would imagine they too will give the same
notification. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 17 February 2021 15:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Gotta move on from Outlook 2007

The first question is if it matters that you are receiving this message when

using e-mail. You know your server is legitimate, who knows how many years
you have been using it. But there may be a command to refresh information
about certificates in the e-mail program and other people may know it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:00 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Gotta move on from Outlook 2007



Hi all. I've been using outlook 2007 for many years, as I remember it it
was the last version before outlook went fully ribboned. However for the
last few days I'm getting the message each time I launch the programme
stating that the server certificate cannot be verified and there are two
buttons, one to confirm I want to use that server anyway and the second to
say no. If I say yes I can still receive and send emails as I'm doing now
but 2007 is along time back, especially when it comes to computers etc. So
as I am used to outlook what is the best version for accessibility. I have
4 computers and they are using either Jaws 2018, 2019 or 2020.



There was a time when I saw posts on lists like this complaining that their

outlook 2016 was giving them mega problems and it makes me wonder if Outlook

2016 is a troublesome version. My computer guy can get for me outlook 2010,

2013, 2016 and 2019. Which of these versions would you recommend? Your
help as always is appreciated. Walter.


Re: Gotta move on from Outlook 2007

Gene
 

The first question is if it matters that you are receiving this message when using e-mail. You know your server is legitimate, who knows how many years you have been using it. But there may be a command to refresh information about certificates in the e-mail program and other people may know it.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:00 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Gotta move on from Outlook 2007



Hi all. I've been using outlook 2007 for many years, as I remember it it was the last version before outlook went fully ribboned. However for the last few days I'm getting the message each time I launch the programme stating that the server certificate cannot be verified and there are two buttons, one to confirm I want to use that server anyway and the second to say no. If I say yes I can still receive and send emails as I'm doing now but 2007 is along time back, especially when it comes to computers etc. So as I am used to outlook what is the best version for accessibility. I have 4 computers and they are using either Jaws 2018, 2019 or 2020.



There was a time when I saw posts on lists like this complaining that their outlook 2016 was giving them mega problems and it makes me wonder if Outlook 2016 is a troublesome version. My computer guy can get for me outlook 2010, 2013, 2016 and 2019. Which of these versions would you recommend? Your help as always is appreciated. Walter.


Gotta move on from Outlook 2007

Walter Ramage
 

Hi all.  I've been using outlook 2007 for many years, as I remember it it was the last version before outlook went fully ribboned.  However for the last few days I'm getting the message each time I launch the programme stating that the server certificate cannot be verified and there are two buttons, one to confirm I want to use that server anyway and the second to say no.  If I say yes I can still receive and send emails as I'm doing now but 2007 is along time back, especially when it comes to computers etc.  So as I am used to outlook what is the best version for accessibility.  I have 4 computers and they are using either Jaws 2018, 2019 or 2020.

 

There was a time when I saw posts on lists like this complaining  that their outlook 2016 was giving them mega problems and it makes me wonder if Outlook 2016 is a troublesome version.  My computer guy can get for me outlook 2010, 2013, 2016 and 2019.  Which of these versions would you recommend?  Your help as always is appreciated.  Walter.


Re: using NVDA for the first time.

Jim Rawls
 

Just what I need. Thanks. Jim

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:43 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using NVDA for the first time.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Firstly, I'd suggest reading through the "Switching from Jaws to NVDA" guide at: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA - It covers a lot o the "How do I do [insert Jaws feature] in NVDA?" questions you're likely to come up with early on.

 

There is an NVDA users email list, which is probably similar traffic to this group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

 

If you'd like to learn NVDA from scratch, we have training material in our shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/  I'd generally recommend starting with the "Basic Training for NVDA" and then progress through the Office modules, from Word, to whichever other Office programs you use - or get everything, as well as telephone support, with the NDVA Productivity Bundle: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-productivity-bundle/

 

And of course, if you have any specific questions you can't find an answer to, feel free to ask in the NVDA user group, or here, or email us - info@....

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:37 PM Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:

Hi all, watt tips do you have for a jaws user learning NVDA? I am running windows ten and jaws 18. Jim


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


this week on Eyes On Success: NaviLens Update

blueskies11
 

This week on eyes On Success we have:

2108 NaviLens Update (Feb. 17, 2021)
Show Notes
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Find the audio and show notes at the links above or search for shows of interest in our archive of over 500 episodes at:

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You can also subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your podcasts or even listen on your smart home device by saying “play the eyes On Success podcast”.

 

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Re: using NVDA for the first time.

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Jim,

Firstly, I'd suggest reading through the "Switching from Jaws to NVDA" guide at: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA - It covers a lot o the "How do I do [insert Jaws feature] in NVDA?" questions you're likely to come up with early on.

There is an NVDA users email list, which is probably similar traffic to this group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

If you'd like to learn NVDA from scratch, we have training material in our shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/  I'd generally recommend starting with the "Basic Training for NVDA" and then progress through the Office modules, from Word, to whichever other Office programs you use - or get everything, as well as telephone support, with the NDVA Productivity Bundle: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-productivity-bundle/

And of course, if you have any specific questions you can't find an answer to, feel free to ask in the NVDA user group, or here, or email us - info@....

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:37 PM Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:

Hi all, watt tips do you have for a jaws user learning NVDA? I am running windows ten and jaws 18. Jim



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


using NVDA for the first time.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, watt tips do you have for a jaws user learning NVDA? I am running windows ten and jaws 18. Jim


pdf files

Monte Single
 

Hi list,

 

Today I received an email with a link to a newsletter in pdf format.

I opened the link using the micro soft edge browser. 

I used  the f9 key to start reading the file with  the read aloud feature.

First time I used it.

Definitely better than using adobe and a screen reader.

I’ll definitely check out the browser further.


Re: nvda and weather

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Heather,

Are you using the Weather Plus add-on? https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/Weather_Plus.en.html

From that page, 
  • Press NVDA+shift+control+w to set a temporary city.
  • Press NVDA+shift+control+alt+w to open the Weather Plus settings dialog.
I'm not sure if you can have multiple cities setup at once, it might be worth contacting the author Adriano Barbieri for help with that (His details should be in the settings / documentation for the add-on I think).

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 7:31 AM heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Hello, I wanted to know if anyone knows how to add your city to the weather read out with NVDA?  I live in san Antonio but, I am actually closer to Helotes than the main city. The temperature is quite different than the zipcode they have for san Antonio.  So just wanting to know how to add my weather location instead.

Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

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