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Re: my new horse puckies computer

Josh Kennedy
 

my laptop is from around February 2021. It is a lenovo, with AMD ryzen5 processor, 256gb ssd solid state drive, 8gigs ram and the processor is quad core with hyperThreading so it appears as an 8core processor. I only get 6gigs of the ram because 2 gigs is for graphics memory. But this computer runs so much faster than my old laptop from 2016 or so. And it is so very quiet and it will support windows 11. 


Re: Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

John Holcomb II
 

In my case its an ASUS all series custom built.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:12 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

This has been an issue between Jaws and Sound Forge depending on the machine.

On 9/21/2021 11:09 PM, Blaster wrote:
If you have a USB soundcard you could route JAWS through the onboard
soundcard and SF through the USB soundcard. Separating the two may
help.

Anyhow, hopefully FS will find out what's going on and provide a patch
in the next update.

Take care, and thanks for bringing this to the list.
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
No its not.
If you disable the Freedom Scientific accessibility Display driver in
device manager it helps somewhat .
Playback is instant but the recording dialog is still unresponsive nearly.
This is with new Jaws 2022beta.
I have reported it.
Also as I said , run the default user directory and it works fine.
Its definitely something to do with scripts and jaws.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Blaster
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

Well that's not good news. I hope FS finds time to sort that out as
I was planning to buy Jim's scripts for SF. Kinda defeats the
purpose of the scripts, eh?

Fingers crossed,
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Its happening to Jim too.
Unlike me though Jim has Jaws 2021 o and SF 15 on a windows 7 box .
Its a problem with freedom scientific as I understand it.
John
On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com> wrote:

You have more then enough horsepower to run SF, it's got to be
your soundcard. The onboard sound chips were never meant to do more
then play computer sounds and to play mp3's or video.

HTH,
Blaster

On 9/19/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,

SO I've got Sound Forge Pro 15 and the scripts from:

The Snowman <http://www.snowmanradio.com/Sound%20Forge%2015.html>
's Scripts for Jaws For Windows (snowmanradio.com)

With JAWS running in Sound Forge with the scripts, Sound Forge is
sluggish to the point of being nearly not responding.

If I hit space to play it takes at least one second for the audio
to start.

If I hit control +R to open the recording dialog JAWS actually
stops talking, and won't do so again until I go to my desktop with
WindowsKey+M.

I've tried using SF with narrator and this doesn't happen with
narrator.
I've also tried using it with the default user directory loaded
from JAWS and this doesn't happen then either.

This is on Windows 10 21H1 with Jaws 2021 July update on a M.2 SSD
on a Core
I7 X processor with 64GB ram.

Anyone got any ideas?

This never happened with Windows 7 and Sound Forge Pro 9 or studio 10.

Thanks,

John

























Re: Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

John Holcomb II
 

I do have two sond cards but both are internal and no dice.
So yeah FS will have to fix it.
Take care and your welcome,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blaster
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:09 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

If you have a USB soundcard you could route JAWS through the onboard soundcard and SF through the USB soundcard. Separating the two may help.

Anyhow, hopefully FS will find out what's going on and provide a patch in the next update.

Take care, and thanks for bringing this to the list.
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
No its not.
If you disable the Freedom Scientific accessibility Display driver in
device manager it helps somewhat .
Playback is instant but the recording dialog is still unresponsive nearly.
This is with new Jaws 2022beta.
I have reported it.
Also as I said , run the default user directory and it works fine.
Its definitely something to do with scripts and jaws.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Blaster
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

Well that's not good news. I hope FS finds time to sort that out as
I was planning to buy Jim's scripts for SF. Kinda defeats the purpose
of the scripts, eh?

Fingers crossed,
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Its happening to Jim too.
Unlike me though Jim has Jaws 2021 o and SF 15 on a windows 7 box .
Its a problem with freedom scientific as I understand it.
John
On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com> wrote:

You have more then enough horsepower to run SF, it's got to be your
soundcard. The onboard sound chips were never meant to do more then
play computer sounds and to play mp3's or video.

HTH,
Blaster

On 9/19/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,

SO I've got Sound Forge Pro 15 and the scripts from:

The Snowman <http://www.snowmanradio.com/Sound%20Forge%2015.html>
's Scripts for Jaws For Windows (snowmanradio.com)

With JAWS running in Sound Forge with the scripts, Sound Forge is
sluggish to the point of being nearly not responding.

If I hit space to play it takes at least one second for the audio
to start.

If I hit control +R to open the recording dialog JAWS actually
stops talking, and won't do so again until I go to my desktop with
WindowsKey+M.

I've tried using SF with narrator and this doesn't happen with
narrator.
I've also tried using it with the default user directory loaded
from JAWS and this doesn't happen then either.

This is on Windows 10 21H1 with Jaws 2021 July update on a M.2 SSD
on a Core
I7 X processor with 64GB ram.

Anyone got any ideas?

This never happened with Windows 7 and Sound Forge Pro 9 or studio 10.

Thanks,

John


























Re: A serious computer problem

Gene
 

I looked at what is offered in terms of formats and I am pleased that a text format is offered.  I much prefer having text for quick review and reference.  I also can copy and paste material to notes rather than write it out some of the time.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem
 

Hi Kaye:

In case this hasn’t been mentioned yet, freedom scientific did a webinar on getting started with windows 10 a couple of years ago. Link below if you want to check it out.

download windows 10 and jaws

 

Chris Judge

JAWS Certified, 2021

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: September 20, 2021 5:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: A serious computer problem

Kay Malmquist
 

Frank,
I was thinking about remote training.  Thanks for the info.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

Kay, were you thinking about remote training or something in-person? If remote I think Hartgen consulting is now doing remote trining. Might be worth investigating.
Frank Ventura
Sincerely,
Frank Ventura


~Sent from my Apple Mac Book Air~


On Sep 20, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Kay Malmquist via groups.io <kay.malmquist@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks.  
 
What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: A serious computer problem

Loy
 


"Getting Started With Windows10 :Using Windows 10 with screen readers."   is available from The National Braille Press. in Daisy Text  format for $22. Also available in Braille and other formats.
 This is an excellent book for those new to Windows 10.
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

That could be.  It may be a way to learn what you want or need quickly because the training can be tailored to teach you what you don’t know while not going over a lot you already know.  But I have no idea of the cost and it may not be worth the money. 
 
But you may find that you only need a small number of lessons so it may not cost that much.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem
 
Kay, were you thinking about remote training or something in-person? If remote I think Hartgen consulting is now doing remote trining. Might be worth investigating.
Frank Ventura
Sincerely,
Frank Ventura
 
 
~Sent from my Apple Mac Book Air~


On Sep 20, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Kay Malmquist via groups.io <kay.malmquist@...> wrote:
 
Hi all,
Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks.  
 
What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
 


Re: A serious computer problem

Gene
 

That could be.  It may be a way to learn what you want or need quickly because the training can be tailored to teach you what you don’t know while not going over a lot you already know.  But I have no idea of the cost and it may not be worth the money. 
 
But you may find that you only need a small number of lessons so it may not cost that much.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem
 
Kay, were you thinking about remote training or something in-person? If remote I think Hartgen consulting is now doing remote trining. Might be worth investigating.
Frank Ventura
Sincerely,
Frank Ventura
 
 
~Sent from my Apple Mac Book Air~


On Sep 20, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Kay Malmquist via groups.io <kay.malmquist@...> wrote:
 
Hi all,
Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks.  
 
What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor
 


Re: A serious computer problem

Gene
 

Most Windows 7 machines are 64 bit machines. 
 
An easy way to find out is the following:
Open the c drive.
Find the programs folder.
Is there just one programs folder or are there two?  If you are running 64 bit Windows, you will have a folder that says programs and a folder that says programs x86.  If you are running 32 bit Windows you will just have a folder that says programs.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem
 

Hey there, Kay, if that’s a windows 7 machine, it’s most likely a 32-bit machine.  You won’t need the 64-bit driver for dectalk unless you’re going to get a windows ten machine.  If you’re on windows ten, it’s most likely 64-bit windows ten as most machines produced in the last several years are now 64-bit operating systems.  If you’re on windows ten, I’ll be happy to show you how to find out whether your system is 64-bit.  Always glad to assist you, have a great day!  BZ!  

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: How Accessible Pharmacies Cater to the Special Needs of the Blind and Those With Impaired Vision

chris judge
 

I have been using script talk now for a couple years and love it.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: September 21, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How Accessible Pharmacies Cater to the Special Needs of the Blind and Those With Impaired Vision

 

 

Okay, following is the complete article about how specialty pharmacies cater to the blind and those with impaired vision.  Note that it contains a lot of extraneous links and ads and other junk, so just ignore them or skip over them:

 

 

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During the pandemic, Curtis Chong has avoided the 2-½ hour journey to his grocery store pharmacy — including a round-trip bus ride — to pick up his prescription.

Even though Mr. Chong, a retiree in Aurora, Colo., said he is readily identifiable as a blind person, because he uses a white cane for mobility, his pharmacist never suggested he could have his medications labeled in an accessible way.

Through a Zoom meeting, Mr. Chong learned about Accessible Pharmacy Services, a start-up, that now delivers his medication with labels that convert text to speech. Mr. Chong said the new specialty pharmacy provided an array of products and assistance “so that the blind can identify their medications privately and independently.”

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Unlike most other pharmacies, Accessible Pharmacy does not cater to walk-in customers or, for that matter, people who can see. The company offers service to blind people and those with low vision, including assistance from those who can see and free home delivery for prescriptions, medical devices and over-the-counter medications.

The pandemic has cast a spotlight on inequalities at pharmacies, where precautions and new programs have further limited access to health care for people with intellectual, developmental and physical disabilities.

Critical services like drive-through coronavirus testing, vaccination and pharmacy pickup windows have failed in many instances because they were rolled out in ways that were inaccessible. How can a blind person drive through a pharmacy? Why isn’t walk-through an option?

In addition, labeling and packaging have been a longstanding problem for older adults and for anyone who cannot read or understand the tiny type that appears on most prescription bottles and the accompanying pamphlets listing side effects and drug interactions.

There is no national standard that specifically addresses accessible labeling or packaging, despite the potential needs of more than 85 million — approximately 1 in 4 — people in the United States who, according to the Census Bureau, have a disability, and more than 12 million people who have serious difficulty seeing.

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The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for regulating prescription drug labels, and under a 2012 law, required a U.S. agency to develop guidelines for accessible labels for those who are blind or visually impaired. In 2016, the Government Accountability Office found that blind and low-vision patients “continue to face barriers accessing drug label information, including identifying pharmacies that can provide accessible labels.”


ImageCurtis Chong, a retiree in Aurora, Colo. &ldquo;It&rsquo;s still like the Wild West for us in terms of reliably and consistently finding solutions at the national level,&rdquo; he said.
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Some improvements have been made, and states have taken the lead on pharmacy oversight. A few, including Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and Maine, are exploring legislation that would require pharmacies to provide prescription labels in Braille, large print, high-contrast and with audio. In 2018, Nevada passed a law requiring pharmacies to provide a prescription reader or to help patients obtain one, and Oregon passed a similar law in 2019.

Nestled in a nondescript mini-mall, next to a Pizza Hut and a partially vacant building, Accessible Pharmacy operates in Fairless Hills, Penn. Concierge agents speak with each patient on the phone, coordinate refills and drug interaction questions with their doctors and consult resident pharmacists. A packaging and labeling menu for prescriptions includes Braille, large print, and audio — all free of charge.

“We decided to create a company where accessibility and reduction of barriers would be our primary focus with an incredibly welcoming sense of hospitality,” said Alex Cohen, 45, company co-founder and professor of marketing at West Chester University outside of Philadelphia, and one-time general manager of a hotel. He became blind after being diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa, a genetic degenerative disease, when he was 20.

Accessible Pharmacy, which launched in May 2020, resulted from collaboration between Mr. Cohen, the chief marketing and accessibility officer, and Andy Burstein, the chief executive.

“It’s still like the Wild West for us in terms of reliably and consistently finding solutions at the national level,” said Mr. Chong, 67. He gets his prescriptions from Accessible Pharmacy with ScripTalk. A tag is placed on the bottom of each pill container that is programmed to include medication information. It can be read aloud using the ScripTalk app on his iPhone or with a free-standing device. (En-Vision America, the manufacturer, said ScripTalk is available in 25 languages and is used by over 20,000 people.)

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Mr. Chong pays more for his medications because Accessible Pharmacy isn’t a preferred pharmacy with his Medicare plan, but said he is willing to pay extra so that his medication labels are tailored to his needs.

He also said he found the websites of major drugstore chains problematic because of unlabeled graphics, requests for the prescription number and a “general lack of efficiency” when ordering refills.

Accessible Pharmacy employees respond to video calls via Be My Eyes, a free app that provides assistance for blind and low-vision people using a network of sighted volunteers. Users requiring help with prescriptions or devices receive sighted assistance from the pharmacy. It can also set up and send out talking medical devices including blood pressure cuffs, thermometers, blood glucose meters and continuous glucose monitors and troubleshoot through the app, once patients have a device in hand.

The pharmacy also fills orders using specialized equipment and can provide enhanced packaging with tactile differentiations for morning and night doses.


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Scott Jenca, the director of operations at Accessible Pharmacy Services in Fairless Hills, Pa., used the multi-dose packaging machine to dispense medication.
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Lynn Heitz, 63, a community training specialist for the blind who lives in Phoenixville, Pa., said she preferred the company’s disposable pill organizer so that she doesn’t have to figure out what’s in every bottle, and the pharmacy sends her the next month’s supply one week before she runs out. After she and her husband were diagnosed with Covid-19, the pharmacy sent an overnight package with prednisone and cough syrup that her doctor prescribed.

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In an Op-Ed last fall, Penny Rosenblum, the former director of research at the foundation, described one such obstacle: “‘Drive-thru’ and ‘curbside pickup’ discriminate,” she wrote. “This doesn’t work for those with vision loss. Communities must have alternative plans, be it porch delivery, walk-up or bike-thru.”

DeAnna Quietwater Noriega, a writer and a full-time caregiver for her husband, Curtis, gets the couple’s prescriptions and any other pharmacy items they need hand-delivered to their front door by D&H Drugstore in Columbia, Mo. Ms. Noriega, 73, was born with glaucoma and has been blind since she was 8.

“They know us by name and always treat us with respect and friendliness,” she said of her independent pharmacy. “They go the extra mile to be sure our medications are compatible with each other and argue on our behalf if our insurance company balks at the drug our doctors prescribed.”

Ms. Noriega’s medications come with ScripTalk labels that she reads with her iPhone. Previously, she filled their prescriptions through Walmart. But the problem, she said, was the couple was never told when the refills had run out until they showed up at the pharmacy. “We were expected to read the very small print on the label,” she said.

Many independent pharmacies offer personalized services including home delivery to meet customers’ needs. Major drugstore chains also offer home delivery in many places. Over the last several years, chain pharmacies have become somewhat more accessible, in part, because of lawsuits and negotiations led by advocacy organizations like the American Council of the Blind.

But finding a pharmacy with a full menu of accessible solutions under one roof has been elusive. Last summer, CVS Health, which offers ScripTalk via its website, added a feature to its app called SpokenRx that can scan labels and read the prescription aloud, which the company said is now available in 10,000 stores.

Walmart also provides ScripTalk in nearly 1,800 Walmart and Sam’s Clubs locations. And there have been other agreements reached with Walgreens to offer its Talking Pill Reminder free of charge. Eric Bridges, executive director of the council, said they have yet to engage with Amazon Pharmacy.

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Dr. Steven Erickson, a pharmacist and professor at the University of Michigan College of Pharmacy, teaches a class where guest speakers with various disabilities share their experiences with pharmacists so that students can demonstrate “disability cultural competence,” he said.

“Without that education there is a greater risk of patients stopping the medicine, or not taking it as intended by their physician,” he said.


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Alex Cohen, a co-founder of Accessible Pharmacy. He said the company meets monthly with a packaging advisory committee of blind adults to help improve service.
Alex Cohen, a co-founder of Accessible Pharmacy. He said the company meets monthly with a packaging advisory committee of blind adults to help improve service.Credit...Hannah Yoon for The New York Times
Getting one-on-one time with a busy pharmacist can also be daunting, so people often settle for printed instructions. The small font size can be an impediment for people with low vision. In addition, those with cognitive issues or limited health literacy may have difficulty understanding the material. Lack of access can also affect deaf patients when the pharmacist doesn’t know sign language or when video relay service or a translator are not provided.

Disposable pill organizers and sealed packets provide a “user-friendly” solution, Dr. Erickson said, but some large chains do not provide them. (CVS offers presorted packets that can be delivered to one’s home or pharmacy for pickup.) And refilling medications at the same time — so-called med-syncing — also helps patients by reducing trips to the pharmacy.

“Both customized patient medication packaging and med-syncing are especially beneficial for people with disabilities who may face transportation barriers or difficulty manipulating traditional medication vials,” Dr. Erickson said.

Mr. Cohen said the company meets monthly with a packaging advisory committee of blind adults. Customer feedback led to the addition of pet and guide-dog medications to the delivery menu and over-the-counter sundries like aspirin and toothpaste.

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What’s more, Dr. Erickson said it’s common for some people — especially those with intellectual and developmental disabilities — to have other medical conditions that require five or more prescriptions, a scenario known as polypharmacy.

For a few years, Hayden Shock, 28, who is deaf and had a kidney transplant, took several drugs for his condition. During the pandemic, Mr. Shock, a program analyst for the General Services Administration, who lives in Arlington, Va., used either an app that provides speech-to-text, called LiveCaption, or pen and paper when he went to Walgreens.

Masks posed another difficulty because they blocked the visual clues of pharmacy staff. (Safe’N’Clear makes an F.D.A.-approved mask with a window.) “I would not call myself a lip reader,” he said. “But I like to see people’s facial expression and lip movement when I communicate with them.”

When his insurance changed to Inova Pharmacy Services, which is affiliated with the regional nonprofit health care provider, it delivered his prescriptions. Through his video phone number, which is connected to apps like Convo, Purple or Sorenson, he can talk to the pharmacy staff with the aid of a sign language interpreter.

So far, Accessible Pharmacy has made inroads largely in the Northeast and mid-Atlantic regions of the country. Mr. Cohen said the company is licensed in 31 states and hopes to expand to all states.

The pandemic, Mr. Cohen notes, has given pharmacies and retailers reasons to rethink their customer service, because many “overestimated the role technology could play in assuaging” the fears of people with disabilities. The assumption that these communities of people with differing needs are tech savvy is “perilous,” he added, noting that some people still only have a landline.

“We always welcome a phone conversation,” Mr. Cohen said.

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Gerald

 

 

On 9/21/2021 9:33 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:

Hi can you coppy the boddy of the artickle and post it in the e mail? It wants me to subscribe and I am not going to do that just to read one artickle. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: September 21, 2021 8:43 AM
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] How Accessible Pharmacies Cater to the Special Needs of the Blind and Those With Impaired Vision

 


Hi gang.  The following article was published in the Science section of today's New York Times, and is of such vital importance to list members who take
prescriptions medications, that I am providing the link to read it.  It is a pretty long article that contains extraneous links and advertisements, , but
many of you will find it extremely imformative and helpful:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/health/blind-pharmacies-access.html

Gerald


Re: A serious computer problem

chris judge
 

Hi Kaye:

In case this hasn’t been mentioned yet, freedom scientific did a webinar on getting started with windows 10 a couple of years ago. Link below if you want to check it out.

download windows 10 and jaws

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: September 20, 2021 5:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: Looking for an add on for Chrome

Bharat
 

Hi,

Please use this addon. It's the same as sound on click & is being
actively maintained by the creator. I have got in touch with him & he
is very responsive. I am using it both on Chrome as well as Edge.
here is the URL:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sonidos-de-navegaci%C3%B3n/plhoioliblcddpmljieonfdndcmjmkpd


do let me know how you like it.
Thank you,

Bharat.

On 9/21/21, Thomas N. Chan <thomas.nchan@gmail.com> wrote:
This extension is no longer on chromestore.

How I maintain the install version is to copy the chrome profile in my old
installation drive, which also kept all my login info, cookies, bookmarks
and so on. That will also keep all my install extension previously

its located at
%localappdata%\google
there's a folder call chrome
thats where chrome kept all their stuff, also including multiple profile

Unfortunately, i didn't find a similar or even close to what soundon can do
on the chromestore

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 23:30, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:

I have an add on on one computer called "sound on click" I want this on
another computer, but can't find a download link for it. does anyone have
this or tell me of a similar add on I can download. The add on makes
clicks
when web pages changes.







Re: A serious computer problem

Frank Ventura
 

Kay, were you thinking about remote training or something in-person? If remote I think Hartgen consulting is now doing remote trining. Might be worth investigating.
Frank Ventura
Sincerely,
Frank Ventura


~Sent from my Apple Mac Book Air~


On Sep 20, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Kay Malmquist via groups.io <kay.malmquist@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks.  
 
What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

lynn white
 

This has been an issue between Jaws and Sound Forge depending on the machine.

On 9/21/2021 11:09 PM, Blaster wrote:
If you have a USB soundcard you could route JAWS through the onboard
soundcard and SF through the USB soundcard. Separating the two may
help.

Anyhow, hopefully FS will find out what's going on and provide a patch
in the next update.

Take care, and thanks for bringing this to the list.
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
No its not.
If you disable the Freedom Scientific accessibility Display driver in device
manager it helps somewhat .
Playback is instant but the recording dialog is still unresponsive nearly.
This is with new Jaws 2022beta.
I have reported it.
Also as I said , run the default user directory and it works fine.
Its definitely something to do with scripts and jaws.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Blaster
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

Well that's not good news. I hope FS finds time to sort that out as I was
planning to buy Jim's scripts for SF. Kinda defeats the purpose of the
scripts, eh?

Fingers crossed,
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Its happening to Jim too.
Unlike me though Jim has Jaws 2021 o and SF 15 on a windows 7 box .
Its a problem with freedom scientific as I understand it.
John
On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com> wrote:

You have more then enough horsepower to run SF, it's got to be your
soundcard. The onboard sound chips were never meant to do more then
play computer sounds and to play mp3's or video.

HTH,
Blaster

On 9/19/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,

SO I've got Sound Forge Pro 15 and the scripts from:

The Snowman <http://www.snowmanradio.com/Sound%20Forge%2015.html> 's
Scripts for Jaws For Windows (snowmanradio.com)

With JAWS running in Sound Forge with the scripts, Sound Forge is
sluggish to the point of being nearly not responding.

If I hit space to play it takes at least one second for the audio to
start.

If I hit control +R to open the recording dialog JAWS actually
stops talking, and won't do so again until I go to my desktop with
WindowsKey+M.

I've tried using SF with narrator and this doesn't happen with
narrator.
I've also tried using it with the default user directory loaded from
JAWS and this doesn't happen then either.

This is on Windows 10 21H1 with Jaws 2021 July update on a M.2 SSD
on a Core
I7 X processor with 64GB ram.

Anyone got any ideas?

This never happened with Windows 7 and Sound Forge Pro 9 or studio 10.

Thanks,

John
























Re: Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

Blaster
 

If you have a USB soundcard you could route JAWS through the onboard
soundcard and SF through the USB soundcard. Separating the two may
help.

Anyhow, hopefully FS will find out what's going on and provide a patch
in the next update.

Take care, and thanks for bringing this to the list.
Blaster

On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
No its not.
If you disable the Freedom Scientific accessibility Display driver in device
manager it helps somewhat .
Playback is instant but the recording dialog is still unresponsive nearly.
This is with new Jaws 2022beta.
I have reported it.
Also as I said , run the default user directory and it works fine.
Its definitely something to do with scripts and jaws.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Blaster
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

Well that's not good news. I hope FS finds time to sort that out as I was
planning to buy Jim's scripts for SF. Kinda defeats the purpose of the
scripts, eh?

Fingers crossed,
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Its happening to Jim too.
Unlike me though Jim has Jaws 2021 o and SF 15 on a windows 7 box .
Its a problem with freedom scientific as I understand it.
John
On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com> wrote:

You have more then enough horsepower to run SF, it's got to be your
soundcard. The onboard sound chips were never meant to do more then
play computer sounds and to play mp3's or video.

HTH,
Blaster

On 9/19/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,

SO I've got Sound Forge Pro 15 and the scripts from:

The Snowman <http://www.snowmanradio.com/Sound%20Forge%2015.html> 's
Scripts for Jaws For Windows (snowmanradio.com)

With JAWS running in Sound Forge with the scripts, Sound Forge is
sluggish to the point of being nearly not responding.

If I hit space to play it takes at least one second for the audio to
start.

If I hit control +R to open the recording dialog JAWS actually
stops talking, and won't do so again until I go to my desktop with
WindowsKey+M.

I've tried using SF with narrator and this doesn't happen with
narrator.
I've also tried using it with the default user directory loaded from
JAWS and this doesn't happen then either.

This is on Windows 10 21H1 with Jaws 2021 July update on a M.2 SSD
on a Core
I7 X processor with 64GB ram.

Anyone got any ideas?

This never happened with Windows 7 and Sound Forge Pro 9 or studio 10.

Thanks,

John


























This week on Eyes On Success: Using Reaper With Osara

blueskies11
 

This week’s episode of Eyes On Success is:

2139 Using Reaper with OSARA (Sep. 22, 2021)
Show Notes
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Re: A serious computer problem

Pamela Dominguez
 

Both my windows seven computers are/were windows 7, 64 bit.  Pam.
 

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem
 

Hold up. I’ve gotten systems that are 64-bit with Windows 7 so don’t assume its 32-bit.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, Kay, if that’s a windows 7 machine, it’s most likely a 32-bit machine.  You won’t need the 64-bit driver for dectalk unless you’re going to get a windows ten machine.  If you’re on windows ten, it’s most likely 64-bit windows ten as most machines produced in the last several years are now 64-bit operating systems.  If you’re on windows ten, I’ll be happy to show you how to find out whether your system is 64-bit.  Always glad to assist you, have a great day!  BZ!  

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


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Re: Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

John Holcomb II
 

The problem doesn't happen on Windows 7.
Just on 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

No its not.
If you disable the Freedom Scientific accessibility Display driver in device manager it helps somewhat .
Playback is instant but the recording dialog is still unresponsive nearly.
This is with new Jaws 2022beta.
I have reported it.
Also as I said , run the default user directory and it works fine.
Its definitely something to do with scripts and jaws.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blaster
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

Well that's not good news. I hope FS finds time to sort that out as I was planning to buy Jim's scripts for SF. Kinda defeats the purpose of the scripts, eh?

Fingers crossed,
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Its happening to Jim too.
Unlike me though Jim has Jaws 2021 o and SF 15 on a windows 7 box .
Its a problem with freedom scientific as I understand it.
John
On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com> wrote:

You have more then enough horsepower to run SF, it's got to be your
soundcard. The onboard sound chips were never meant to do more then
play computer sounds and to play mp3's or video.

HTH,
Blaster

On 9/19/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,

SO I've got Sound Forge Pro 15 and the scripts from:

The Snowman <http://www.snowmanradio.com/Sound%20Forge%2015.html> 's
Scripts for Jaws For Windows (snowmanradio.com)

With JAWS running in Sound Forge with the scripts, Sound Forge is
sluggish to the point of being nearly not responding.

If I hit space to play it takes at least one second for the audio to
start.

If I hit control +R to open the recording dialog JAWS actually
stops talking, and won't do so again until I go to my desktop with
WindowsKey+M.

I've tried using SF with narrator and this doesn't happen with narrator.
I've also tried using it with the default user directory loaded from
JAWS and this doesn't happen then either.

This is on Windows 10 21H1 with Jaws 2021 July update on a M.2 SSD
on a Core
I7 X processor with 64GB ram.

Anyone got any ideas?

This never happened with Windows 7 and Sound Forge Pro 9 or studio 10.

Thanks,

John
















Re: Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

John Holcomb II
 

No its not.
If you disable the Freedom Scientific accessibility Display driver in device manager it helps somewhat .
Playback is instant but the recording dialog is still unresponsive nearly.
This is with new Jaws 2022beta.
I have reported it.
Also as I said , run the default user directory and it works fine.
Its definitely something to do with scripts and jaws.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blaster
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

Well that's not good news. I hope FS finds time to sort that out as I was planning to buy Jim's scripts for SF. Kinda defeats the purpose of the scripts, eh?

Fingers crossed,
Blaster


On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Its happening to Jim too.
Unlike me though Jim has Jaws 2021 o and SF 15 on a windows 7 box .
Its a problem with freedom scientific as I understand it.
John
On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com> wrote:

You have more then enough horsepower to run SF, it's got to be your
soundcard. The onboard sound chips were never meant to do more then
play computer sounds and to play mp3's or video.

HTH,
Blaster

On 9/19/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,

SO I've got Sound Forge Pro 15 and the scripts from:

The Snowman <http://www.snowmanradio.com/Sound%20Forge%2015.html> 's
Scripts for Jaws For Windows (snowmanradio.com)

With JAWS running in Sound Forge with the scripts, Sound Forge is
sluggish to the point of being nearly not responding.

If I hit space to play it takes at least one second for the audio to
start.

If I hit control +R to open the recording dialog JAWS actually
stops talking, and won't do so again until I go to my desktop with
WindowsKey+M.

I've tried using SF with narrator and this doesn't happen with narrator.
I've also tried using it with the default user directory loaded from
JAWS and this doesn't happen then either.

This is on Windows 10 21H1 with Jaws 2021 July update on a M.2 SSD
on a Core
I7 X processor with 64GB ram.

Anyone got any ideas?

This never happened with Windows 7 and Sound Forge Pro 9 or studio 10.

Thanks,

John
















Re: Windows 10 and Sound forge Pro 15 with JAWS

Blaster
 

Well that's not good news. I hope FS finds time to sort that out as
I was planning to buy Jim's scripts for SF. Kinda defeats the purpose
of the scripts, eh?

Fingers crossed,
Blaster

On 9/21/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Its happening to Jim too.
Unlike me though Jim has Jaws 2021 o and SF 15 on a windows 7 box . Its a
problem with freedom scientific as I understand it.
John
On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Blaster <blaster.nil8@gmail.com> wrote:

You have more then enough horsepower to run SF, it's got to be your
soundcard. The onboard sound chips were never meant to do more then
play computer sounds and to play mp3's or video.

HTH,
Blaster

On 9/19/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,

SO I've got Sound Forge Pro 15 and the scripts from:

The Snowman <http://www.snowmanradio.com/Sound%20Forge%2015.html> 's
Scripts
for Jaws For Windows (snowmanradio.com)

With JAWS running in Sound Forge with the scripts, Sound Forge is
sluggish
to the point of being nearly not responding.

If I hit space to play it takes at least one second for the audio to
start.

If I hit control +R to open the recording dialog JAWS actually stops
talking, and won't do so again until I go to my desktop with
WindowsKey+M.

I've tried using SF with narrator and this doesn't happen with narrator.
I've also tried using it with the default user directory loaded from
JAWS
and this doesn't happen then either.

This is on Windows 10 21H1 with Jaws 2021 July update on a M.2 SSD on a
Core
I7 X processor with 64GB ram.

Anyone got any ideas?

This never happened with Windows 7 and Sound Forge Pro 9 or studio 10.

Thanks,

John
















problem trying to DL a file

Nancy Hill
 

Hi-


Over the past couple of days I have run into a situation involving a DL of a TV show to my win10 jaws 20+-


Here is the message I get:


The connection for this site is not secure

od.lk sent an invalid response.

ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

Does anyone have any idea why I have started getting this error?

My PC is scanned every day and nothing suspicious has turned up.

There was a short download recently either  to win10 or Jaws.  Could some setting have changed and if so, what do I need to adjust to allow this site to download the 30 minute show for me.

Thanks in advance for your help!

nancy

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