Date   

Re: Hi Olusegun,

Carolyn Arnold
 

But, maybe it would. I have been happy with JAWS 18, so keep
my SMA, but simply haven't updated- why fix something that
works?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 2:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Hi Olusegun,




This is all moot, anyway, because Window Eyes may no longer
work with the latest feature update to Windows 10, because
it has not been updated in years. Freedom Scientific now
owns the rights to Window Eyes, and put it out of its misery
a long time ago, migrating all of its users to JAWS. I'm
sure they wouldn't care if somebody wanted to give somebody
else a copy of Window Eyes,figuring that getting it to work
properly would be an exercise in futility.





Gerald








On 8/13/2020 2:43 PM, Donald Roberts wrote:


Gene is quite correct. However, I am aware of
several Window-eyes users who would be happy to simply give
you a copy. Now I am certain that some would be lawyers
will tell me how illegal this is. Notwithstanding, you
should have no problem obtaining a copy.




Don Roberts




On 8/13/2020 10:38 AM, Gene wrote:


You can't legally buy Window-eyes.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mubanga
Chipalo
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:55 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Hi Olusegun,

I want to know whether there are still
companies selling window eyes. If so, indicate their
websites for me. This is from M.Chipalo


Re: A surprising difference between desk top and laptop command

Mike B
 

Try pressing, FN + Escape, to disable the function keys.
 
I believe you can enable / disable the function keys as default using the Lenovo Vantage app. If you don't have this app it might be available in the
Microsoft store.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:21 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] A surprising difference between desk top and laptop command

Hi List, I recently bought a Lenovo Windows 10 laptop and loaded Jaws 2020 on it. 

 

I was surprised to find that when I press Insert plus F4 on its keyboard, it goes to a print command. However, when I issue that command from an attached desk top keyboard it does unload Jaws as it should.

 

Have any of you experienced this?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: A surprising difference between desk top and laptop command

Juan Gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...>
 

Like others have stated Lenovo has the habit of setting the media function keys to the default but with some visual assistance you can set the function keys to act like the ones on your desktop if that is the rout you want to go. For now do the FN plus JAWSKey plus F4 to unload JAWS. FN is the key usually on the bottom left in between the control key and the windows key. Not sure if Lenovo has an application to turn the media function keys off but one method is to go into the bios of the machine to turn them off.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] A surprising difference between desk top and laptop command

 

Hi List, I recently bought a Lenovo Windows 10 laptop and loaded Jaws 2020 on it. 

 

I was surprised to find that when I press Insert plus F4 on its keyboard, it goes to a print command. However, when I issue that command from an attached desk top keyboard it does unload Jaws as it should.

 

Have any of you experienced this?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

 


Re: Hi Olusegun,

Gerald Levy
 


This is all moot, anyway, because Window Eyes may no longer work with the latest feature update to Windows 10, because it has not been updated in years. Freedom Scientific now owns the rights to Window Eyes, and put it out of its misery a long time ago, migrating all of its users to JAWS. I'm sure they wouldn't care if somebody wanted to give somebody else a copy of Window Eyes,figuring that getting it to work properly would be an exercise in futility.  


Gerald



On 8/13/2020 2:43 PM, Donald Roberts wrote:

Gene is quite correct.  However, I am aware of several Window-eyes users who would be happy to simply give you a copy.  Now I am certain that some would be lawyers will tell me how illegal this is.  Notwithstanding, you should have no problem obtaining a copy.


Don Roberts


On 8/13/2020 10:38 AM, Gene wrote:
You can't legally buy Window-eyes.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mubanga Chipalo
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:55 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Hi Olusegun,

I want to know whether there are still companies selling window eyes. If so, indicate their websites for me. This is from M.Chipalo







Re: Hi Olusegun,

Donald Roberts
 

Gene is quite correct.  However, I am aware of several Window-eyes users who would be happy to simply give you a copy.  Now I am certain that some would be lawyers will tell me how illegal this is.  Notwithstanding, you should have no problem obtaining a copy.


Don Roberts


On 8/13/2020 10:38 AM, Gene wrote:
You can't legally buy Window-eyes.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mubanga Chipalo
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:55 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Hi Olusegun,

I want to know whether there are still companies selling window eyes. If so, indicate their websites for me. This is from M.Chipalo







Re: Hi Olusegun,

Gene
 

I should say that, as I understand matters, its not legal to sell or buy Window-eyes since there is no company to transfer the license.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Hi Olusegun,

You can't legally buy Window-eyes.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mubanga Chipalo
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:55 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Hi Olusegun,

I want to know whether there are still companies selling window eyes. If so,
indicate their websites for me. This is from M.Chipalo


Re: Hi Olusegun,

Gene
 

You can't legally buy Window-eyes.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mubanga Chipalo
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:55 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Hi Olusegun,

I want to know whether there are still companies selling window eyes. If so, indicate their websites for me. This is from M.Chipalo


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Carolyn Arnold
 

Lisa, if you have to use the fingerprint, for me, on my SE, it was not hard, and I'm hoping iOS 14 is going to offer that option back, and I'd like to get rid of facial ID. I can live with either, but much prefer fingerprint, feel it is more secure. I had no problem setting either one unassisted.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hey, Olusegun,


Thanks so much for the answers to my admittedly ignorant questions. LOL


All of our phone stores are by appointment only, and masks and social distancing is a requirement, so little or no touching of each other's merchandise.


I ordered the phone last night and it should be here next week.


I think if I have enough rudimentary knowledge I may be able to move forward without any eyeballs.


Is it necessary to use the fingerprint reader or is it an optional thing
I can set up later?


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com

On 8/13/2020 9:59 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net?"

You sure can! VoiceAssistant will read to you every piece of info thrown at
it as shown on the screen. If you can get to a phone store, I suggest you
take a short trip there and play with a Samsung toy that has VoiceAssistant
pumping blood to its veins!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado




Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Carolyn Arnold
 

Oh, anyone can access Siri, if they push Power Button, but
for Hay Siri, when my phone is on the desk, She's a
one-person gal, so far as I know.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally blind

Yes, Sis Carolyn; GoogleAssistant comes with each Android
installation on all android toys! That said, it DOES NEED
TO BE CONFIGURED before it can be put to use. Example: You
NEED TO TRAIN IT to recognise your voice.

There's one thing I DO NOT LIKE with respect to the
GoogleAssistant: Any voice similar to yours can trigger it.
Madam Siri wins in that regard. I sure hope that Google can
figure out a way to resolve this soonest!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: A surprising difference between desk top and laptop command

Gene
 

That's likely because you have to have the fn keys not function when the fn key is not depressed. At least that's why I think this is happening, but this qquestion may give us help in determining if that is the problem. Does alt f4 work properly to close programs? I'm not sure what other function keys and commands may not work properly now. But failure of alt f4 to close programs is a strong indicator, when combined with what you are asking about, that this is a fn key problem.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] A surprising difference between desk top and laptop command



Hi List, I recently bought a Lenovo Windows 10 laptop and loaded Jaws 2020 on it.



I was surprised to find that when I press Insert plus F4 on its keyboard, it goes to a print command. However, when I issue that command from an attached desk top keyboard it does unload Jaws as it should.



Have any of you experienced this?



Sincerely, Vicky V




Virus-free. www.avg.com


A surprising difference between desk top and laptop command

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hi List, I recently bought a Lenovo Windows 10 laptop and loaded Jaws 2020 on it. 

 

I was surprised to find that when I press Insert plus F4 on its keyboard, it goes to a print command. However, when I issue that command from an attached desk top keyboard it does unload Jaws as it should.

 

Have any of you experienced this?

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Hi Olusegun,

Mubanga Chipalo <mubangachipalo13@...>
 

I want to know whether there are still companies selling window eyes. If so, indicate their websites for me. This is from M.Chipalo


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Is it necessary to use the fingerprint reader or is it an optional thing
I can set up later?"

Dear sis, security, security, security! I hear this one word thrown around
quite a bit. Like germophobes, security drives many off the wall! Use of
the fingerprint thingie falls in that line. I personally DO NOT use it. I
don't add any security anything to my toys. I suppose I am crazy, but I
dare anyone to attempt to STEAL MY TOY and see what such a thief will find
out! For a start, I hardly have ANY NAMES AND NUMBERS in my Contacts list.
If I do, I typically MAKE THE NAMES of such contacts impossible to guess
right. I have a knack for STICKING PHONE NUMBERS in my head and I wish
anyone trying to pry them out all the luck that can be found wherever.

If you wish to use fingerprint for additional security, you can set it up
when you're ready to do so.

Oh, Covid19!! It forces MY RESTLESS LEGS to find unneeded rest. I can't
sit in that plane to a land I know nothing about, simply popping in for my
own exploration as I mix with its inhabitants. All I can do is KEEP HOPE
ALIVE that some curative measure will pop up and some element of normalcy
shall return soonest.

There's a TMobile store not too far from my unshackled dwelling; I pop in
there now and then to play with new Android toys although I'll never ever
buy my toys directly from any carrier. Luckily, I don't need an appointment
to go in, just face covering; I can't get on the bus without face covering
either, and, all other stores require it too. Oh well, with fingers
crossed, I pray that better days, as the Reggae song says, are coming bye
and bye!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: How do u clone a laptop's hard drive?

Geoff Eden
 

Good afternoon, the easiest way to do this to secure all of the personal settings you have for your computer is to create an image of your hard drive on another drive, which will give you the capability of bringing your machine back to the moment you created the image.

To begin with, determine what you really need to keep for a restoration. If you have copies of music, emails, or text that you have already put away, then you can remove them from your drive before starting in order to keep the image within manageable limits. This is only necessary if space is an issue.

When you've accomplished your housecleaning, check to see how much space is being used. Then look at your external drives to determine where you have sufficient space to store your image.

To begin, tap your Windows key and type in the word "restore". This will open up your restore utility. Press the tab several times until you see create an image of this computer. Press the enter key to select this item, and after a short time, the next tab will show you an option of which drive you may select. This only occurs if you have other drives plugged in at the moment.

Finally, launch the process, and give yourself a few hours to do something else. You can use the computer while this is happening, but I suggest it may be risky. I do mine overnight.

The computer will inform you when it's finished, and offer you the opportunity to create a startup disk. You must select this option and be ready with a blank CD, DVD, or memory stick to record this special boot material. It is altogether likely, that if your computer has a CD/DVD drive, your BIOS has been set to see it first in the boot sequence. If your computer has no media drive, that it is altogether likely that your BIOS will see a device such as a memory stick or a remote CD drive as first in the boot sequence.

Now, when it comes time to restore from that image, start your computer with the CD – memory stick ready to go. Give your system a minute or two to sort itself out, which it will do without speech. Generally, hitting the enter key a couple of times will launch the restore. If not you may need someone to take a peek at the screen.

Just for your information, there is a circulation of Windows PE that can come up talking and will give you control of the image restoration. Probably far more complexity than that for which you are prepared.

I hope this is helpful, and that if anyone sees I've missed something, please jump in.

Geoff

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] How do u clone a laptop's hard drive?

Hi All, Thanks to y'all I have gotten to the point where I am wanting to
get a copy/clone of my laptop's hard drive so I will be able to restore
it with most of the tweaks I like to have on my machine should the need
ever arise.


Is there a place to get instructions on how to clone a hard drive?


I am running win10 and one of the latest jaws. My laptop has a 1TB SSD
and I have 2 1 TB WD external My Passports ready to receive the clone/copy.


I don't know how often I should clone my PC as it is not a business
machine...just my personal device.


Your suggestions and help will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in Advance!

Nancy


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Mary Smith
 

Lisa, once you get the new phone and start using it, can you post to the list and share your opinions about the accessibility of the phone from the perspective of a new user. I'd be interested in what others have to say before investing in the phone myself.

On 2020-08-13 12:11 p.m., Lisa Belville wrote:
Hey, Olusegun,


Thanks so much for the answers to my admittedly ignorant questions.  LOL


All of our phone stores are by appointment only, and masks and social distancing is a requirement, so little or no touching of each other's merchandise.


I ordered the phone last night and it should be here next week.


I think if I have enough rudimentary knowledge I may be able to move forward without any eyeballs.


Is it necessary to use the fingerprint reader or is it an optional thing I can set up later?


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com

On 8/13/2020 9:59 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net?"

You sure can!  VoiceAssistant will read to you every piece of info thrown at
it as shown on the screen.  If you can get to a phone store, I suggest you
take a short trip there and play with a Samsung toy that has VoiceAssistant
pumping blood to its veins!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado




Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Lisa Belville
 

Hey, Olusegun,


Thanks so much for the answers to my admittedly ignorant questions.  LOL


All of our phone stores are by appointment only, and masks and social distancing is a requirement, so little or no touching of each other's merchandise.


I ordered the phone last night and it should be here next week.


I think if I have enough rudimentary knowledge I may be able to move forward without any eyeballs.


Is it necessary to use the fingerprint reader or is it an optional thing I can set up later?


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com

On 8/13/2020 9:59 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net?"

You sure can! VoiceAssistant will read to you every piece of info thrown at
it as shown on the screen. If you can get to a phone store, I suggest you
take a short trip there and play with a Samsung toy that has VoiceAssistant
pumping blood to its veins!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Yes, Sis Carolyn; GoogleAssistant comes with each Android installation on
all android toys! That said, it DOES NEED TO BE CONFIGURED before it can be
put to use. Example: You NEED TO TRAIN IT to recognise your voice.

There's one thing I DO NOT LIKE with respect to the GoogleAssistant: Any
voice similar to yours can trigger it. Madam Siri wins in that regard. I
sure hope that Google can figure out a way to resolve this soonest!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Gerald wrote:

"How do you turn on Voice Assist without sighted help? Does this phone have
any physical buttons like a home key that can be tapped to turn on speech
output?"

First, a quick correction: No such app as VoiceAssist; the samsung screen
reader is VoiceAssistant and it's a FORK OF Talkback! Before now, it was
named Galaxy Talkback.

Second, the days of PHYSICAL HOME BUTTONS in newer incarnations of Android
toys are long gone. All we have are virtual home buttons still at the same
location at the bottom of the screen. You don't ever have to use it,
Android9 and 10 allows you to decide whether or not you want a home button
on your screen.

Third, accessibility in Androidville can still be enabled by laying down two
fingers on the face of the toy; you do need to turn it on and wait a few
seconds before doing this as it needs to be fully powered up. When I got my
S10 toy, I didn't even have to do this; it came up talking to me as soon as
i powered it up.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Tante Lisa wrote in part:

"Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net?"

You sure can! VoiceAssistant will read to you every piece of info thrown at
it as shown on the screen. If you can get to a phone store, I suggest you
take a short trip there and play with a Samsung toy that has VoiceAssistant
pumping blood to its veins!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Carolyn Arnold
 

I didn't realize that the Google Assist had to be set up,
just thought it was part of the Android package from the get
go.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 10:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally blind

You got to set up the google assistant or bixby to do siri
things. I haven't done any of it so I can't help there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:14:33 -0600
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally blind

Hi Lisa,

In many ways the Iphones and the androids are similar.
In apple land, You can ask siri some questions and get it
to do some things.
Voiceover does not answer question or do things. It just
reports what is on the screen.
Maybe things are similar with the Samsung galaxies.
Hopefully someone with the real info will clarify these
things.
Maybe our great friend Olusegun will add his 20 cents
worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of
Lisa Belville
Sent: August 12, 2020 6:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally
blind

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk
with just the Voice Assist? I know people who get the
iPhone thinking SIRIUS will read and do everything for them
and it just doesn't work that way. Can I use the Voice
Assist to do other things besides texting and calling? What
about Emails and surfing the net? I know you said you don't
do these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to
do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all
the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power
phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a
phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these
days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If
you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how
different the user experience is going to be. I jumped
straight into android without passing go and collecting 200
dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@frontier.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability
for totally
blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only
Android knowledge
I have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google
Play Store on
it, but that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@frontier.com>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for
totally
blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones
is getting a
Samsung A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal
if you like
TracFone. I may have to help her learn to use it.
Does this
phone have Talkback or some other Android speech? I
am an iPhone
user with Verizon, but I am also curious about the
quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


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missktlab1217@frontier.com










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