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Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Lenron
 

Yes they sell pretty well. My dell doesn't have on but most laptops I
keep I prefer to have the numpad. I have always had pretty good luck
with Asus. One of my favorite laptops was an Asus. Also please don't
over think the fact that computer with work great with IOS and
android. It will for sure be running windows 10. Take most things they
tell you in best buy with a grain of salt, Because they really don't
know as much as they should about the things they sell.

On 12/28/20, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Brian,
I seen at least four or five Laptops with NumPads, and what I call normal
keys. I was surprised though that Best Buy had so many Laptops with the
NumPad. I searched in the store maybe over a year ago, and I was told by a
salesmen they don't carry any Laptops with NumPads anymore. I had a friend
of mine just a few weeks ago to search on line, and she said Best Buy didn't
have any Laptops with NumPads, and I went there today, and sure enough, they
did have them, and I liked all of them, and I noticed with all the Laptops
with the NumPads, Best Buy was out of stock with all of them, so they must
sell fairly well.

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Zolo
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hey there, Janet, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio. Why not just buy an
external keyboard rather than getting a whole new laptop. At some point in
time you'll definitely need to consider either getting a subscription to
office 365 or get a physical version of Microsoft office. Office 365 is
subscription based but the advantage to subscriptions is that you'll always
be kept up to date. I've stayed with external keyboards and that's just a
personal choice because of the differences in the layout of laptop
keyboards. Most laptops that you buy will already have windows ten
installed. Then it's a matter of getting whatever screen reading software
you intend to use installed. Variety is the spice of life, grin1 bZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi,
You are so right. It really does all depend on what someone does, and often
they use it. So, you got a Lenovo for $250, great deal, and it still is
running! LOL! I can't stand the keyboard on this Lenovo I bought though.
I will take it back to Best Buy Monday, and hopefully get a better one with
a better keyboard for me to work with.

Thank you so much for all your help.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

How long a laptop or desktop lasts depends on many factors. Some of the
factors are; The quality of the components of the machine, How and where the
machine is used, How many hours a day or week the machine is used.
... and others I do not think of right now.

I gave my sister an inexpensive Lenovo laptop in July of 2016. She
probably uses it a bit each day but I know she does not spend hours and
hours, on facebook, pinterest, and games.
So she has been using that cheap Lenovo laptop for 4 and a half years. It
does all the thing she wants to do. It may die tomorrow. It may last
andother 4 years. It keeps instaloling the windows updates.
It cost 250 U S dollars on sale.
If it dies tomorrow, so be it.
I figure it was a good investment.
For some other people, that laptop would have been inadequate.
Getting a machine that suits your needs and your budget is the best you can
do.
If money is not an issue, then you have a lot more choices.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: December 26, 2020 8:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I
recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to
flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key
goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the
Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only
will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little
longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've
read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat
quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am
going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num
pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their
stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss
the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a
typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely
won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips
offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and
which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the
knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed,
but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a
different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences
matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I
don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and
to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't
have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective
differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what
we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela
Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor
that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors
were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were
all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are
now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and
video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh
Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A
LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this
before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM,
with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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Re: thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

chris judge
 

I use to have a power strip under my desk. Every once in a while none of my computer stuff would work, finally I discovered one of the little monsters was stepping on the switch. I guess he didn't like the rumble of the jaws voice.

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 28, 2020 9:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

I have a friend here, and with mouth and paws, Sadie, the black cat disconnected her power strip.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 6:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

Wow, four cats! Do your cats ever feel like they want to contribute to your writing? (smile) I remember getting an email from somebody that looked a little strange, and then she said she was sorry, but her cat decided she wanted to write some, too. One of my friend’s cats used to walk all over the phone when we were talking, and sometimes, disconnect us. Pam.

From: chris judge <mailto:chrisjudge1967@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'


Darn right, can’t git rid of the pets. That’s why, when choosing a new computer, along with the typical questions such as, what am I going to do with it, am I going to be editing a lot of video, or just surfing the internet, we need to consider our environment. I know, for instance, that I have four cats. I also know that I’m the kind of person who will have the odd coffee, glass of water, or can of beer while sitting at the computer. Putting a vulnerable laptop in that environment would be negligent.







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 4:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'



Oh yes,

We are slaves to our pets, especially cats and dogs.

They trip us up in all kind of ways. Sometimes, thet cost us thousands of dollars a year, but they sure hang in there.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: December 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'



Sir Monte, for sure. If one spends as much time behind their keyboards as it appears most of us do, it is unrealistic to expect that one wouldn’t want to enjoy a beverage. I too practice safe habits around my computer most of the time. The incident I discussed in the earlier post was actually quite a little experience and totally careless of me. I was sitting on the sofa, it was around Christmas time. Kim wanted to use the desktop computer so I grabbed her laptop, which she hadn’t used in six months, and fired it up. Now this was way, way back in 2008. We’re talking a Soni Vio with 512 meg of ram running good old xp.

So while the computer was taking it’s customary 20 minutes to boot up, I, being that it was Christmas and all, decided that a hot chocolate, laced with a hearty dollop of some spirit, for the life of me I can’t recall what it was, but spirit all the same, was in order.



Now, beverage all prepared, I sat down and took this clunky, and I mean, clunky, Soni Vio on to my lap. I then proceeded to reach with my left hand, which is not my good one, lift the mug of lovely liquid to my lips, took a healthy gulp, then proceeded to bump my elbow on the cat who had snuggled up against me on my left without my notice. Needless to say I sloshed most of the contents all over the lovely vios keyboard. Jaws went wild and the thing shut down.



Kim wasn’t all that mad, well, at first she was a bit put out until I explained that, even though it was a $2000 laptop when it was purchased, several years, as well as technological advancements, helped it to depreciate in value almost as much as the cup of hot chocolate did.

I

Bought her a little netbook running windows 7 and she was just as happy as a little kid in a candy store.



So yes, always put beverages in a safe container while working around our tech toys. To do anything else would be negligent.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 12:10 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io <mailto:techtalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'



Hi List,



I use my computer just about any time of day or night.

Space is not a problem so I have a good sized u-shaped workstation.

Quite often, I may be having a snack or a beverage while I use my pc.

Several years ago I started using those stainless types thermos containers like the one you get in a 2 pack at Costco. These are the ones with the twist off tops. They keepp hot things hot and cold things cold.

These containers are about 12-14 ozs. They have little push buttons on the side of the tops.

So when youwant a drink, you just tip the top of the container to your lips and press the side button; and drink your beverage of choice.

I mention these containers because they are spill proof and unbreakable.More than once, I have knocked one over, on my keyboard, on the floor, on the desk.

No worries, nothingspills, nothing breaks.



I am not encouraging people to have bad habits while using technology,

I’m just showing that you can have beverages, hot or cold, in your home/office space and not have to worry about spills.



Cheers,



Monte



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Re: thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

chris judge
 

Sorry, that 4 cats was a typo. I only have three lol.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December 28, 2020 7:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Wow, four cats!  Do your cats ever feel like they want to contribute to your writing?  (smile)  I remember getting an email from somebody that looked a little strange, and then she said she was sorry, but her cat decided she wanted to write some, too.  One of my friend’s cats used to walk all over the phone when we were talking, and sometimes, disconnect us.  Pam.

 

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:32 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Darn right, can’t git rid of the pets. That’s why, when choosing a new computer, along with the typical questions such as, what am I going to do with it, am I going to be editing a lot of video, or just surfing the internet, we need to consider our environment. I know, for instance, that I have four cats. I also know that I’m the kind of person who will have the odd coffee, glass of water, or can of beer while sitting at the computer. Putting a vulnerable laptop in that environment would be negligent.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 4:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Oh yes,

We are slaves to our pets, especially cats and dogs.

They trip us up in all kind of ways.  Sometimes, thet cost us thousands of dollars a year,  but they sure hang in there.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: December 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Sir Monte, for sure. If one spends as much time behind their keyboards as it appears most of us do, it is unrealistic to expect that one wouldn’t want to enjoy a beverage. I too practice safe habits around my computer most of the time. The incident I discussed in the earlier post was actually quite a little experience and totally careless of me. I was sitting on the sofa, it was around Christmas time. Kim wanted to use the desktop computer so I grabbed her laptop, which she hadn’t used in six months, and fired it up. Now this was way, way back in 2008. We’re talking a Soni Vio with 512 meg of ram running good old xp.

So while the computer was taking it’s customary 20 minutes to boot up, I, being that it was Christmas and all, decided that a hot chocolate, laced with a hearty dollop of some spirit, for the life of me I can’t recall what it was, but spirit all the same, was in order.

 

Now, beverage all prepared, I sat down and took this clunky, and I mean, clunky, Soni Vio on to my lap. I then proceeded to reach with my left hand, which is not my good one, lift the mug of lovely liquid to my lips, took a healthy gulp, then proceeded to bump my elbow on the cat who had snuggled up against me on my left without my notice. Needless to say I sloshed most of the contents all over the lovely vios keyboard. Jaws went wild and the thing shut down.

 

Kim wasn’t all that mad, well, at first she was a bit put out until I explained that, even though it was a $2000 laptop when it was purchased, several years, as well as technological advancements, helped it to depreciate in value almost as much as the cup of hot chocolate did.

I

Bought her a little netbook running windows 7 and she was just as happy as a little kid in a candy store.

 

So yes, always put beverages in a safe container while working around our tech toys. To do anything else would be negligent.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 12:10 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Hi List,

 

I use my computer just about any time of day or night.

Space is not a problem so I have a good sized u-shaped  workstation.

Quite often, I may be having a snack or a beverage while I use my pc.

Several years ago I started using those stainless types thermos containers like the one you get in a 2 pack at Costco.  These are the ones with the twist off tops.  They keepp hot  things hot and cold things cold. 

These containers are about 12-14  ozs.  They have little push buttons on the side of the tops.

So when youwant a drink, you just tip the top of the container to your lips and press the side button;  and drink your beverage of choice.

I mention these containers because they are spill proof and unbreakable.More than once, I have knocked one over, on my keyboard, on the floor, on the desk.

No worries,  nothingspills, nothing breaks.

 

I am not encouraging  people to have bad habits while using technology,

I’m just showing that   you can have  beverages, hot or cold,  in  your home/office space and not have to worry about spills.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 


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Re: Accessible power banks

Tariq Ali
 

Thank you very much
Have you any idea which one disses

Regards
Tariq

On 28 Dec 2020, at 10:44 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman <fawaz.ar94@...> wrote:



Hi, I think atGuys has one with vibration indicator of how much power remaining in the powerbank. I did not try it myself, I use a normal one, I don’t find it a big necessity to be accessible. Just know the average range, then you can just plug it in at the end of certain days.

Good luck.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tariq Ali
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible power banks

 

Hi Folks

I’m looking for a recommendation on an accessible power bank must have fast charging capability

Regards

Tariq

 


Re: question about Apple e-gift cards

Donna
 

Troy, Don’t know if this will help you find the email, but it will narrow down the search for you. Your last email to the group in regards to the gift card was on 12/21/2020.

Donna


Hi all,

I sent an old iPhone back to apple a little before Thanksgiving this year and they sent me a gift card through e-mail. I redeemed the card and the money is in my apple account, but I want to contact applestore.com about a purchase and I seem to have misplaced the e-mail. Will I need the e-mail when contacting applestore.com so I can give them my pin number?

Thanks, I use thunderbird and gmail and I've looked through the archives folder and the important folder in thunderbird, the e-mail isn't in the archives folder and there's over 400 e-mails in my important folder and I can't remember exactly what the subject line was of the e-mail nor do I remember exactly who it came from. I've searched the trash folder in thunderbird using words that might've been in either the subject or in the address the card came from in case I moved it out of my inbox without meaning to, but so far that hasn't worked and I have over 4000 messages in the trash folder. Yes I know, I should empty that folder now and then and I used to but obviously not lately.

Troy







How do you reduce bit rate in mp3 file?

Nancy Hill
 

All,


I have several mp3 files that should be just about the same file but the bit rate makes one file a good deal larger than the other.


Is there software that is no or low cost that would let me take a 128 bit mp3 file and change it to the same file but 64bit?

This would mainly involve spoken word files.  I am hoping to increase open space on my external hard drive.


Thanks in advance for your help!

nancy


Re: question about Apple e-gift cards

Holly
 

Troy:

If the money is in your account, you may not need the email anymore. Did you set up your account with a user name and password?

In any case, I would jus call the Apple store and tell them the situation.


question about Apple e-gift cards

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I sent an old iPhone back to apple a little before Thanksgiving this year and they sent me a gift card through e-mail. I redeemed the card and the money is in my apple account, but I want to contact applestore.com about a purchase and I seem to have misplaced the e-mail. Will I need the e-mail when contacting applestore.com so I can give them my pin number?

Thanks, I use thunderbird and gmail and I've looked through the archives folder and the important folder in thunderbird, the e-mail isn't in the archives folder and there's over 400 e-mails in my important folder and I can't remember exactly what the subject line was of the e-mail nor do I remember exactly who it came from. I've searched the trash folder in thunderbird using words that might've been in either the subject or in the address the card came from in case I moved it out of my inbox without meaning to, but so far that hasn't worked and I have over 4000 messages in the trash folder. Yes I know, I should empty that folder now and then and I used to but obviously not lately.

Troy


Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Janet
 

Hi Brian,
I seen at least four or five Laptops with NumPads, and what I call normal keys. I was surprised though that Best Buy had so many Laptops with the NumPad. I searched in the store maybe over a year ago, and I was told by a salesmen they don't carry any Laptops with NumPads anymore. I had a friend of mine just a few weeks ago to search on line, and she said Best Buy didn't have any Laptops with NumPads, and I went there today, and sure enough, they did have them, and I liked all of them, and I noticed with all the Laptops with the NumPads, Best Buy was out of stock with all of them, so they must sell fairly well.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hey there, Janet, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio. Why not just buy an external keyboard rather than getting a whole new laptop. At some point in time you'll definitely need to consider either getting a subscription to office 365 or get a physical version of Microsoft office. Office 365 is subscription based but the advantage to subscriptions is that you'll always be kept up to date. I've stayed with external keyboards and that's just a personal choice because of the differences in the layout of laptop keyboards. Most laptops that you buy will already have windows ten installed. Then it's a matter of getting whatever screen reading software you intend to use installed. Variety is the spice of life, grin1 bZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi,
You are so right. It really does all depend on what someone does, and often they use it. So, you got a Lenovo for $250, great deal, and it still is running! LOL! I can't stand the keyboard on this Lenovo I bought though. I will take it back to Best Buy Monday, and hopefully get a better one with a better keyboard for me to work with.

Thank you so much for all your help.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

How long a laptop or desktop lasts depends on many factors. Some of the factors are; The quality of the components of the machine, How and where the machine is used, How many hours a day or week the machine is used.
... and others I do not think of right now.

I gave my sister an inexpensive Lenovo laptop in July of 2016. She probably uses it a bit each day but I know she does not spend hours and hours, on facebook, pinterest, and games.
So she has been using that cheap Lenovo laptop for 4 and a half years. It does all the thing she wants to do. It may die tomorrow. It may last andother 4 years. It keeps instaloling the windows updates.
It cost 250 U S dollars on sale.
If it dies tomorrow, so be it.
I figure it was a good investment.
For some other people, that laptop would have been inadequate.
Getting a machine that suits your needs and your budget is the best you can do.
If money is not an issue, then you have a lot more choices.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: December 26, 2020 8:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed, but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM, with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Janet
 

Gene,
I'm not for sure, but I'm thinking I had those problems maybe because the touch screen was on, and I don't know how well or even if Narrator could have been any help in that situation. I figured the set up was asking me for something, but I think it was on the touch screen, and that could be why Narrator kept turning off instead of reading, as I don't know how well a touch screen and a screen reader interact with each other, but not sure though.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

You may need sighted assistance to set up the computer. I would think you
could try with an external keyboard, but I don't know why you had the
problems you did and if that would resolve them or some of them.

I've never set up a computer as a new machine for various reasons. Either I
got machines from rehabilitation agencies where they were already set up,
refurbished machines that were already set up, and I got one demonstration
machine which, as a demo, was already set up. The demo was the last of the
brand and model in the store and they sold it to me. I can't advise you on
the probems you had.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene,
Wow, what a day I had trying to set up the Lenovo. I worked on that Laptop
for at least 6 hours, and still no go! LOL! Narrator was not any help at
all! When I first turned on the Laptop, a woman's voice came on, and said
she can walk me through the steps if I was ready by voice, and I answered
yes to her, and I searched on line for the keys to turn on the speaker,
volume, mic. Well then, I heard no more from her. I wasn't for sure if she
heard me or not though. I turned on Narrator, and it just kept turning off
for some unknown reason. Then the Laptop would just shut down. I would
then have to unplug the Laptop, and wait for a few minutes, and plug it back
in in order to see if I could hear the woman's voice, so she could walk me
through it, but I didn't hear her voice, so I turned on Narrator again, and
again, Narrator just stopped talking once again. So I once again turned
Narrator on again, and pressed a few keys quickly, so I found that if I kept
pressing keys, Narrator would stay on, and I also heard Narrator saying if I
want Narrator to read the keys to me I can press caps lock, plus the number
1, so I did press the cap key and the number one, and quickly started to
press a few keys mainly on the numpad. So I finally found the enter key on
that keyboard, and pressed enter. I then got a message from Narrator saying
Microsoft set up 2 of 5 steps, but that message continued for an hour in a
half. I began to press the space bar to hear something, but I just kept
getting the same message, so I just waited a little longer to see if I could
hear something, but I still got the exact same message. So, I was getting
ready to turn the Laptop off again because I couldn't do anything with it,
and I didn't know what it was doing, as Narrator didn't say anything. Well,
finally the woman's voice came on asking me if I'm sure I want to quit, and
I told her no. She then told me enter my first and last name in the field,
and I did, but I did spell my name wrong because the e key was so far away,
I couldn't find the back space at all, I couldn't find the delete key, as I
looked and looked for those keys. I then pressed shift plus tab, and got
back in to the edit field to enter my name again. I then had to enter my
email address in the field as well, and made a mistake because of those
crazy keys, but anyway it went through. I thought to myself, ok, maybe I'm
getting somewhere, I selected my network. Now it was time for me to enter
my WI-Fi password, but low in behold, I couldn't turn on the numpad key to
use the numbers, I couldn't even use the numbers on the number roll either,
so I couldn't finish the install or set up, so I couldn't have any internet.
I think in the beginning why it was taking so long was it was asking me to
except something, but Narrator was not reading it to me, and I don't know
what happened to the woman who first came on talking. I would not even want
this keyboard even if someone was to give it to me. I can not work with the
keyboard! LOL! It is just too difficult to try and type with two fingers
on one key, but I just thought I would give it another chance, but that is
the very last chance I will even try to work with that keyboard. LOL!
Smile!


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

You don't have to give it up. there are external numpads you can attach.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Wow, how terrible to have to give up the num pad. My Lenovo desktop has
laster for over five years. I got almost ten years out of my last Dell.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I
recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to
flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key
goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the
Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only
will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little
longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've
read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat
quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am
going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num
pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss
the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a
typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely
won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips
offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and
which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the
knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed,
but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a
different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences
matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I
don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and
to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't
have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what
we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela
Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor
that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors
were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were
all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are
now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and
video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh
Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A
LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this
before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM,
with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Janet
 

Hi Gene and All,
Well, I finally went to Best Buy and I saw at least four or five Laptops with the NumPads, and they were very nice. I ended up buying An Asus Laptop, and I really like the keyboard a lot, and matter of fact, I already know where some of the keys are, as they are quite similar to my keyboard with my Windows 7. Although, the keys are just a little closer than my desktop keyboard, I could work with that just fine. Ok, so now, I find the Laptop I like and can work with, and even bought a three year accidental insurance. At that time the only thing I didn't like was Best Buy didn't have it in stock, so would have to wait until Jan 12-2021 or a little sooner, but because I liked it so much, I was willing to wait. When I got home and went through my emails, and checked all the emails I got from Best Buy, and I also logged in to my Best Buy account to be for sure all was well. I almost fell over when I read this message! This item is no longer available in new condition.
Your price for this item is $497.99. The Salesmen told me it was $599.99. Well, I have no problem with the price change though! I also read this message, Geek Squad Certified
Professionally Cleaned
Looks brand new
Includes all original parts/accessories
Typically contains original packaging. Condition
Availability
Price
Open-Box Excellent - CertifiedInfo
Open-Box Excellent – Certified
Select product categories are eligible for certification. Each Excellent-Certified product has passed the Geek Squad® Certified process. Products in this condition look brand new — with no physical flaws, scratches or scuffs — and include the original parts1 and accessories, as well as the original box (or a suitable replacement).2 In addition, the product was professionally cleaned, then repackaged with care to give you a product as near to new as possible. Excellent- Certified products can be found in Best Buy stores and online. Then I read this is an Asus Vivobook Laptop, and can be use with iOS or Android. I asked the salesmen who was helping me if Windows ten is installed, and he said somewhat, but not to worry because they will set it up for me, and Windows ten will be there. He also told me I will need to be at home to connect it to my Network, I have no idea how I'm going to set that up myself. I'm thinking I should do more research on this Vivobook Laptop. I thought a Laptop was just a Laptop, but I am finding with these Laptops, they have ThinkPads, IdeaPads, now I see Vivobook.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 9:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

It may be important to get recommendations about external numpads from
screen-reader users. Some external numpads, for some reason, aren't
compatible with screen-readers and they won't do things such as work with
the jAWS cursor.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Carolyn,
I would rather have the NumPad on my keyboard, but I don't know if I can
find a Laptop with just some buttons like on a desktop PC, so if not, I
might try to see if I can buy an external NumPad, as I've seen those
before, and there not too bad though. External NumPads aren't usually that
exspensive either, but I guess I'll find out.

Janet .

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Wow, how terrible to have to give up the num pad. My Lenovo desktop has
laster for over five years. I got almost ten years out of my last Dell.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I
recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to
flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key
goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the
Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only
will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little
longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've
read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat
quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am
going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num
pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss
the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a
typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely
won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips
offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and
which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the
knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed,
but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a
different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences
matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I
don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and
to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't
have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what
we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela
Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor
that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors
were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were
all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are
now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and
video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh
Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A
LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this
before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM,
with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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Re: thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

Carolyn Arnold
 

I have a friend here, and with mouth and paws, Sadie, the black cat disconnected her power strip.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 6:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

Wow, four cats! Do your cats ever feel like they want to contribute to your writing? (smile) I remember getting an email from somebody that looked a little strange, and then she said she was sorry, but her cat decided she wanted to write some, too. One of my friend’s cats used to walk all over the phone when we were talking, and sometimes, disconnect us. Pam.

From: chris judge <mailto:chrisjudge1967@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'


Darn right, can’t git rid of the pets. That’s why, when choosing a new computer, along with the typical questions such as, what am I going to do with it, am I going to be editing a lot of video, or just surfing the internet, we need to consider our environment. I know, for instance, that I have four cats. I also know that I’m the kind of person who will have the odd coffee, glass of water, or can of beer while sitting at the computer. Putting a vulnerable laptop in that environment would be negligent.







From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 4:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'



Oh yes,

We are slaves to our pets, especially cats and dogs.

They trip us up in all kind of ways. Sometimes, thet cost us thousands of dollars a year, but they sure hang in there.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: December 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'



Sir Monte, for sure. If one spends as much time behind their keyboards as it appears most of us do, it is unrealistic to expect that one wouldn’t want to enjoy a beverage. I too practice safe habits around my computer most of the time. The incident I discussed in the earlier post was actually quite a little experience and totally careless of me. I was sitting on the sofa, it was around Christmas time. Kim wanted to use the desktop computer so I grabbed her laptop, which she hadn’t used in six months, and fired it up. Now this was way, way back in 2008. We’re talking a Soni Vio with 512 meg of ram running good old xp.

So while the computer was taking it’s customary 20 minutes to boot up, I, being that it was Christmas and all, decided that a hot chocolate, laced with a hearty dollop of some spirit, for the life of me I can’t recall what it was, but spirit all the same, was in order.



Now, beverage all prepared, I sat down and took this clunky, and I mean, clunky, Soni Vio on to my lap. I then proceeded to reach with my left hand, which is not my good one, lift the mug of lovely liquid to my lips, took a healthy gulp, then proceeded to bump my elbow on the cat who had snuggled up against me on my left without my notice. Needless to say I sloshed most of the contents all over the lovely vios keyboard. Jaws went wild and the thing shut down.



Kim wasn’t all that mad, well, at first she was a bit put out until I explained that, even though it was a $2000 laptop when it was purchased, several years, as well as technological advancements, helped it to depreciate in value almost as much as the cup of hot chocolate did.

I

Bought her a little netbook running windows 7 and she was just as happy as a little kid in a candy store.



So yes, always put beverages in a safe container while working around our tech toys. To do anything else would be negligent.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 12:10 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io <mailto:techtalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'



Hi List,



I use my computer just about any time of day or night.

Space is not a problem so I have a good sized u-shaped workstation.

Quite often, I may be having a snack or a beverage while I use my pc.

Several years ago I started using those stainless types thermos containers like the one you get in a 2 pack at Costco. These are the ones with the twist off tops. They keepp hot things hot and cold things cold.

These containers are about 12-14 ozs. They have little push buttons on the side of the tops.

So when youwant a drink, you just tip the top of the container to your lips and press the side button; and drink your beverage of choice.

I mention these containers because they are spill proof and unbreakable.More than once, I have knocked one over, on my keyboard, on the floor, on the desk.

No worries, nothingspills, nothing breaks.



I am not encouraging people to have bad habits while using technology,

I’m just showing that you can have beverages, hot or cold, in your home/office space and not have to worry about spills.



Cheers,



Monte



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Re: thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

Pamela Dominguez
 

Wow, four cats!  Do your cats ever feel like they want to contribute to your writing?  (smile)  I remember getting an email from somebody that looked a little strange, and then she said she was sorry, but her cat decided she wanted to write some, too.  One of my friend’s cats used to walk all over the phone when we were talking, and sometimes, disconnect us.  Pam.
 

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'
 

Darn right, can’t git rid of the pets. That’s why, when choosing a new computer, along with the typical questions such as, what am I going to do with it, am I going to be editing a lot of video, or just surfing the internet, we need to consider our environment. I know, for instance, that I have four cats. I also know that I’m the kind of person who will have the odd coffee, glass of water, or can of beer while sitting at the computer. Putting a vulnerable laptop in that environment would be negligent.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 4:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Oh yes,

We are slaves to our pets, especially cats and dogs.

They trip us up in all kind of ways.  Sometimes, thet cost us thousands of dollars a year,  but they sure hang in there.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: December 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Sir Monte, for sure. If one spends as much time behind their keyboards as it appears most of us do, it is unrealistic to expect that one wouldn’t want to enjoy a beverage. I too practice safe habits around my computer most of the time. The incident I discussed in the earlier post was actually quite a little experience and totally careless of me. I was sitting on the sofa, it was around Christmas time. Kim wanted to use the desktop computer so I grabbed her laptop, which she hadn’t used in six months, and fired it up. Now this was way, way back in 2008. We’re talking a Soni Vio with 512 meg of ram running good old xp.

So while the computer was taking it’s customary 20 minutes to boot up, I, being that it was Christmas and all, decided that a hot chocolate, laced with a hearty dollop of some spirit, for the life of me I can’t recall what it was, but spirit all the same, was in order.

 

Now, beverage all prepared, I sat down and took this clunky, and I mean, clunky, Soni Vio on to my lap. I then proceeded to reach with my left hand, which is not my good one, lift the mug of lovely liquid to my lips, took a healthy gulp, then proceeded to bump my elbow on the cat who had snuggled up against me on my left without my notice. Needless to say I sloshed most of the contents all over the lovely vios keyboard. Jaws went wild and the thing shut down.

 

Kim wasn’t all that mad, well, at first she was a bit put out until I explained that, even though it was a $2000 laptop when it was purchased, several years, as well as technological advancements, helped it to depreciate in value almost as much as the cup of hot chocolate did.

I

Bought her a little netbook running windows 7 and she was just as happy as a little kid in a candy store.

 

So yes, always put beverages in a safe container while working around our tech toys. To do anything else would be negligent.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 12:10 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Hi List,

 

I use my computer just about any time of day or night.

Space is not a problem so I have a good sized u-shaped  workstation.

Quite often, I may be having a snack or a beverage while I use my pc.

Several years ago I started using those stainless types thermos containers like the one you get in a 2 pack at Costco.  These are the ones with the twist off tops.  They keepp hot  things hot and cold things cold. 

These containers are about 12-14  ozs.  They have little push buttons on the side of the tops.

So when youwant a drink, you just tip the top of the container to your lips and press the side button;  and drink your beverage of choice.

I mention these containers because they are spill proof and unbreakable.More than once, I have knocked one over, on my keyboard, on the floor, on the desk.

No worries,  nothingspills, nothing breaks.

 

I am not encouraging  people to have bad habits while using technology,

I’m just showing that   you can have  beverages, hot or cold,  in  your home/office space and not have to worry about spills.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte




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Re: Accessible power banks

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Hi, I think atGuys has one with vibration indicator of how much power remaining in the powerbank. I did not try it myself, I use a normal one, I don’t find it a big necessity to be accessible. Just know the average range, then you can just plug it in at the end of certain days.

Good luck.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tariq Ali
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible power banks

 

Hi Folks

I’m looking for a recommendation on an accessible power bank must have fast charging capability

Regards

Tariq

 


Re: thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

chris judge
 

Darn right, can’t git rid of the pets. That’s why, when choosing a new computer, along with the typical questions such as, what am I going to do with it, am I going to be editing a lot of video, or just surfing the internet, we need to consider our environment. I know, for instance, that I have four cats. I also know that I’m the kind of person who will have the odd coffee, glass of water, or can of beer while sitting at the computer. Putting a vulnerable laptop in that environment would be negligent.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 4:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Oh yes,

We are slaves to our pets, especially cats and dogs.

They trip us up in all kind of ways.  Sometimes, thet cost us thousands of dollars a year,  but they sure hang in there.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: December 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Sir Monte, for sure. If one spends as much time behind their keyboards as it appears most of us do, it is unrealistic to expect that one wouldn’t want to enjoy a beverage. I too practice safe habits around my computer most of the time. The incident I discussed in the earlier post was actually quite a little experience and totally careless of me. I was sitting on the sofa, it was around Christmas time. Kim wanted to use the desktop computer so I grabbed her laptop, which she hadn’t used in six months, and fired it up. Now this was way, way back in 2008. We’re talking a Soni Vio with 512 meg of ram running good old xp.

So while the computer was taking it’s customary 20 minutes to boot up, I, being that it was Christmas and all, decided that a hot chocolate, laced with a hearty dollop of some spirit, for the life of me I can’t recall what it was, but spirit all the same, was in order.

 

Now, beverage all prepared, I sat down and took this clunky, and I mean, clunky, Soni Vio on to my lap. I then proceeded to reach with my left hand, which is not my good one, lift the mug of lovely liquid to my lips, took a healthy gulp, then proceeded to bump my elbow on the cat who had snuggled up against me on my left without my notice. Needless to say I sloshed most of the contents all over the lovely vios keyboard. Jaws went wild and the thing shut down.

 

Kim wasn’t all that mad, well, at first she was a bit put out until I explained that, even though it was a $2000 laptop when it was purchased, several years, as well as technological advancements, helped it to depreciate in value almost as much as the cup of hot chocolate did.

I

Bought her a little netbook running windows 7 and she was just as happy as a little kid in a candy store.

 

So yes, always put beverages in a safe container while working around our tech toys. To do anything else would be negligent.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 12:10 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Hi List,

 

I use my computer just about any time of day or night.

Space is not a problem so I have a good sized u-shaped  workstation.

Quite often, I may be having a snack or a beverage while I use my pc.

Several years ago I started using those stainless types thermos containers like the one you get in a 2 pack at Costco.  These are the ones with the twist off tops.  They keepp hot  things hot and cold things cold. 

These containers are about 12-14  ozs.  They have little push buttons on the side of the tops.

So when youwant a drink, you just tip the top of the container to your lips and press the side button;  and drink your beverage of choice.

I mention these containers because they are spill proof and unbreakable.More than once, I have knocked one over, on my keyboard, on the floor, on the desk.

No worries,  nothingspills, nothing breaks.

 

I am not encouraging  people to have bad habits while using technology,

I’m just showing that   you can have  beverages, hot or cold,  in  your home/office space and not have to worry about spills.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte


Re: my computer no longer plays wave files

Gene
 

I don't know what is causing the problem. Try selecting a file in the list, and instead of just pressing enter on it, try opening the context menu and press enter on open and play. While I doubt this will cause the file to play, you never know.

But as to how to solve the underlying problem, I don't know.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:44 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] my computer no longer plays wave files

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no longer will let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media Player is the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and wave files still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in that software cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a system restore point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed. No good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD collection is now on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files, but I don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That is what I would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


Re: thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

Monte Single
 

Oh yes,

We are slaves to our pets, especially cats and dogs.

They trip us up in all kind of ways.  Sometimes, thet cost us thousands of dollars a year,  but they sure hang in there.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: December 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Sir Monte, for sure. If one spends as much time behind their keyboards as it appears most of us do, it is unrealistic to expect that one wouldn’t want to enjoy a beverage. I too practice safe habits around my computer most of the time. The incident I discussed in the earlier post was actually quite a little experience and totally careless of me. I was sitting on the sofa, it was around Christmas time. Kim wanted to use the desktop computer so I grabbed her laptop, which she hadn’t used in six months, and fired it up. Now this was way, way back in 2008. We’re talking a Soni Vio with 512 meg of ram running good old xp.

So while the computer was taking it’s customary 20 minutes to boot up, I, being that it was Christmas and all, decided that a hot chocolate, laced with a hearty dollop of some spirit, for the life of me I can’t recall what it was, but spirit all the same, was in order.

 

Now, beverage all prepared, I sat down and took this clunky, and I mean, clunky, Soni Vio on to my lap. I then proceeded to reach with my left hand, which is not my good one, lift the mug of lovely liquid to my lips, took a healthy gulp, then proceeded to bump my elbow on the cat who had snuggled up against me on my left without my notice. Needless to say I sloshed most of the contents all over the lovely vios keyboard. Jaws went wild and the thing shut down.

 

Kim wasn’t all that mad, well, at first she was a bit put out until I explained that, even though it was a $2000 laptop when it was purchased, several years, as well as technological advancements, helped it to depreciate in value almost as much as the cup of hot chocolate did.

I

Bought her a little netbook running windows 7 and she was just as happy as a little kid in a candy store.

 

So yes, always put beverages in a safe container while working around our tech toys. To do anything else would be negligent.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 12:10 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Hi List,

 

I use my computer just about any time of day or night.

Space is not a problem so I have a good sized u-shaped  workstation.

Quite often, I may be having a snack or a beverage while I use my pc.

Several years ago I started using those stainless types thermos containers like the one you get in a 2 pack at Costco.  These are the ones with the twist off tops.  They keepp hot  things hot and cold things cold. 

These containers are about 12-14  ozs.  They have little push buttons on the side of the tops.

So when youwant a drink, you just tip the top of the container to your lips and press the side button;  and drink your beverage of choice.

I mention these containers because they are spill proof and unbreakable.More than once, I have knocked one over, on my keyboard, on the floor, on the desk.

No worries,  nothingspills, nothing breaks.

 

I am not encouraging  people to have bad habits while using technology,

I’m just showing that   you can have  beverages, hot or cold,  in  your home/office space and not have to worry about spills.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte


Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Monte Single
 

Yes, the function keys on laptops are quite small, and the one I used at work ro the last 2 or 3 years had no spaces between any of the function keys; there were about 20 very small keys in the row where the function keys were.
I took a little container of liquid color to work and got someone to put a little drop on the 4, 8, and 12 keys. It dried in an hour or so and madelife a little easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: December 28, 2020 1:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

I find much about the typical laptop keyboard annoying. Even that FN key between the left control key and the windows can be annoying, especially if you are one who switches between a laptop and desktop on a regular basis, as I do. Also, many laptop keyboards have little or know space between f4 and f5, and f8 and f9.
Many have their arrow keys all clumped together.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 28, 2020 2:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

I hated the original Lenovo keyboard. I can't remember why, but it had something to do with Control, Alt, or Ppplication - something was way different about that configuration. I generally buy a Logitech keyboard for $15.00. In a year's time, the lettersare worn off. I haven't replaced in a while. My husband can't see the letters, but it really goes now, well broken in. The spacebar is slick from my thumb, but I have worn it good and limber. For a while, I used an old Dell on it until I wore its letters, but we had to have an adapter connection for that one.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Carolyn,
It sounds like you got a pretty good deal. I do think Lenovo's rather Laptops or Desktops have good products though. It is just this keyboard I can't work with at all. Are the keys on your pc long, short, very long, and all different shapes?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Janet, I got my Lenovo desktop for something like $450, could have been $449.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene,
Yes, I do find this very useful. I was wondering if all or most Laptops have pretty much the same keyboard layout. I will have to give this some serious thought now. I don't know if I could get used to the keyboard on this Lenovo, but maybe if I tried a little more, but it is completely different from any other keyboard I've ever used, but then again, I've always used desktops, and that is what I'm used to. So, I either buy a desktop, or try to get used to Laptop keyboards. I do definitely want a Laptop though. So this gives me something to think about. I will keep the comments from this email though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

These comments are long, but you may find them useful and if they encourage further discussion, you may find that useful as well.

The following comments may help you approach deciding what laptop to buy or such questions as whether you want to use an external keyboard. I haven't used a variety of laptops. My comments are intended to stir helpful discussion. While I have given you my impression regarding laptop keyboards, they are my impression and are not based on looking at a variety.

You might consider Computers For the Blind, as I said, if money is tight. I believe you use a computer for typical things, browsing, e-mail, streaming music. If money isn't tight or you just want a better computer, you may not want to. But 150 dollars for a refurbished laptop that is already configured, not that you couldn't do it yourself, a free year of JAWS, which may or may not matter if you already have JAWS, and NVDA included may make more sense. I haven't gotten a machine from them, but I've heard good things from those who have.

If you ask here, you may get comments from a number of people about whether the machines satisfy users, have good keyboards, and other ;possible questions you have. There is a real difference between five hundred dollars and 150 dollars.

Regarding keyboards, I'm not sure what choices you have on laptops. My laptop has square keys that are much larger than the keys on a mechanical external keyboard. The feel of depression is different as well. The question of keyboards would be something to discuss here. I hope others comment on such questions as:
Can you find mechanical or small key keyboards in laptops? Are you willing to use an external keyboard? My guess is that you are used to external mechanical keyboards, not membrane keyboards. Although I haven't looked into this, my guess is that most perhaps almost all laptop keyboards are membrane and membrane keyboards have a different tension and feel than a mechanical keyboard.

As far as keys being of different shapes, I'm not sure what you are referring to but laptop keyboards often have keys like home and end in different places than external keyboards. They are often differently shaped from the letter and number keys as well.
Once I got used to where the home and end keys are on my keyboard, I don't object to them and find them as easy to use as the traditional home and end keys. It may be just a case of you getting used to a laptop computer keyboard. That may be easier for some people than for others.

If you use your computer mainly at home, you may want to get a mechanical external keyboard if that is what you are used to, and it probably is.

Many people use a laptop computer for mostly home use.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed, but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM, with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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my computer no longer plays wave files

Joe Giovanelli
 

Hi, Listers,

I am using a computer running Win 7. For whatever reason, it no longer will let me play wave files. This is NOT an association problem. Media Player is the default program for playing wave files. I also tried VLC, and wave files still do not play.

I installed CCleaner Professional and wondered if something in that software cased the problem. I uninstalled it. No luck. Next, I chose a system restore point which was earlier than the date when Cclear was installed. No good.

There is where I am now. I do a lot with wave files. My CD collection is now on an external hard drive, backed up with another drive.

In case it means anything, Goldwave permits me to play wave files, but I don't think there's a way to play all the files in a folder. That is what I would have to do in order to play a CDE.

I thank you for any way to resolve my dilemma.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


Re: Speech friendly dvd ripper?

gbmagoo@...
 

You can do it with the built-in media player on windows

On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:25, George McCoy <slr1bpz@gmail.com> wrote:

I have some .iso images that I want to rip. Is there a speech friendly program to do that, other than handbreak? I tried that one with NVDA but couldn't get anywhere.


Thanks,

George





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