Re: number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting?
chris judge
I was only referring to zoom. I haven't use the other clients so have no
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idea as to what features they have. Chris Judge
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez Sent: August 25, 2020 7:21 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? Yes, but since I use other things like free conference call and google meet, I have been told by several people that they don't have the raise your hand feature. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: chris judge Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 2:53 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? I host meetings using zoom all the time, and I rarely have my video on. I would recommend anyone interested in doing any serious hosting get the professional zoom scripts from Brian Hartgen as they really do enhance the accessibility of zoom. While focused on the participants list you can scroll through the names. Jaws will indicate who has their hand raised. -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: August 24, 2020 3:28 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? If you mean that the host has to have his video on, that mayn be. But it isn't clear what you meanor what you were told. The command is available to phone users so if what you were told means anything, it must mean that the host must be connected visually. I don't know if hosts can connect without using a visual connection but I would think it would be rare, if it can be done. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 1:16 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? I'm told the raise the hand thing only works on something that's video. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 1:06 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? We don't know why. As I said, what sense does it make for a company to design a system where phone users are at a disadvantage? There are, doubtless, a lot of people who join meetings by phone for various reasons. Also, there is a raise the hand command that you can do by phone. It is my understanding that if a host mutes the whole room, you can unmute yourself and talk. However, perhaps there is a way that the host can mute everyone where he has to recognize anyone who wishes to speak, requiring that a hand be raised. Perhaps we will get more information. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 11:48 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? There is an unmute because it works when you mute yourself. There have been people who have tried to unmute them selves, and finally, they either called back or got unmuted and said they were trying to get heard, and we didn't hear them for minutes and minutes. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 11:52 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? I don't know anything about how much the person knows or how reliable he is in what he says about technical matters. Also, if someone tells me something that is likely to be illogical, I'm skeptical. In this case, what you were told appears to be illogical. Why would there be an unmute command if you can't unmute yourself? It might be objected that the command only works by phone if you mute yourself but that would be a completely illogical design. Of course, somethimes a program is illogically designed but that isn't the usual case. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 10:35 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? The command is star 6. But when I was in the class on Friday, the guy said he didn't want to mute everybody, because if he did that, we couldn't unmute ourselves. So, he kept saying that somebody was making noise and that person should mute themselves. Star 6 is a toggle. I had never before heard that if the head person mutes everybody, only that person can unmute people, so that was a surprise to me. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 11:24 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? There is a specifric command for ;phone users to unmute themselves. And I think they can do so, just as they can with a computer. I don't know that because I haven't specifically searched for answers to the question but that is by far the likely state of things. Why would the designers place phone users at a disadvantage? Gene -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 9:56 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? That's if you are using a computer. The calls I have made are on the phone, and what we use, which is google meet, it seems that if the person in charge mutes everybody, that person is the only one who can unmute somebody. At least, that's what he told us. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 11:11 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? I'm not sure what would happen if too many people tried to talk at once. The best thing to do might be to mute everyone, you can do that as the host, then have people unmute themselves to talk and mute themselves after they do. I haven't used this feature, but pressing and holding the space bar is supposed to unmute someone when they are muted and then releasing it would mute them again. So people shouldn't have to keep unmuting and muting themselves, just press the space bar to talk. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Hooley Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:54 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? Hi, How many participants, do you think, would be too much to keep everyone unmuted during the entire meeting? In my case, I have six siblings and 18 nieces and nephews with their families. I wish everyone could come in at once for conversation as if in person.. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks, Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit www.CochlearAmericas.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Question Regarding Accessibility of Creating Surveys on Surveymonkey
Rayn Darren
HI David,
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To my knowledge, Survey Monkey isn't accessible beyond basic surveys. Google forms however is. HTH, Sarah
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 1:10 PM To: techtalk@groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Question Regarding Accessibility of Creating Surveys on Surveymonkey Hello. I have been asked how accessible the Surveymonkey.com Web site is with screen readers as far as creating surveys. I can create very simple surveys but I have so far been unable to figure out how to create multiple choice questions with controls such as radio buttons. I'm trying to figure out if there are settings that I just have not gotten to yet or if the site just isn't accessible. -- David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist www.DavidGoldfield.org
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Re: Problem with MP3 Tag
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Nancy,
While I have no idea how the columns may have come to be hidden, my suggestion would be that you open the view menu, customize columns option (ALT+V, C) and then look in the dialog to see which checkboxes are checked as far as visibility of columns goes. I don't believe I ever changed the defaults, and the checked columns are Filename, Path, Title, Artist, Album Artist, Composer, Album, Track, Comment, Codec, Bitrate, Frequency, Length, Modified. I don't really need a number of these to be shown, so will probably uncheck some of them myself. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Problem with MP3 Tag
Nancy Shackelford
Suddenly, only thing showing is the list of files and no fields. What
may have happened, and what can I do about it? Think i have latest update and using N V D A and Windows 10. Thanks, Nanccce -- Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--
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Re: What are we missing access to in Zoom?
Norma A. Boge
The ACB used Zoom exclusively for its national conference. Highly unlikely a
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large portion is inaccessible to screen reader users. Just because you can't find something in a program doesn't mean the program has accessibility issues. ion The
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 6:22 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] What are we missing access to in Zoom? Although Zoom is generally useable, from the comments of a sighted friend and from what I've seen in help files and looking around the interface, it appears that there is a whole pane of Zoom we have no access to. I think we have access to the left pane, with all the controls and fields users can tab around to, but I've tried all sorts of navigation methods and one or two keyboard commands and I can't see, as far as I can tell, anything in the right pane. the right pane may include a settings opttion, a help option, and perhaps other things. What are we missing and is it important enough to contact the Zoom development or accessibility, whoever is in charge of such things, team about? Gene
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Re: Accessibility of ADT Security Systems?
Jerry Berrier
Thanks to all who responded to my questions.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:16 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessibility of ADT Security Systems?
Hi Jerry, On 8/25/2020 5:07 AM, Jerry Berrier wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Accessibility of ADT Security Systems?
Jerry Berrier
Thanks. Good to know.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of rex wisdom via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:38 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessibility of ADT Security Systems?
The system is accessible with voice over. The app is accessible voice over as well, the buttons are labeled. The touch panel is just for the voice part of the system. I use my app to control all functions of the alarm. The touch panel is just to have voice for the system, so I have a main panel and a touch panel. I never use the touch panel except to tell me when the system is active or doors or windows are open. The ADT app does cost an extra $10 per month.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier
I’m considering ADT for my home security system. They have a touch screen on the option I’m considering, but it can be managed somewhat from the Amazon Echo. What I’m most concerned about is their iOS app. I’d like to know if it works well with Voiceover.
Thanks.
Jerry Berrier 508-735-4420
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Re: Chrome Newby
Gene
Someone wrote a guide to using Chrome with NVDA but it is applicable to screen-readers in general. Of course, specific commands, if they are given like read to end are different but a screen-reader user would already know those commands for his screen-reader. Quick navigation commands are either identical or just about identical between JAWS and NVDA. If someone doesn't post the guide or something else that will be useful, I'll see if I can find it or inquire on the NVDA list.
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As for now, if you want to look at the interface, open the menu, there is one single menu, with alt f. To be sure the menu opens, hold alt and type f. Look through the menu. In chrome, almost every interface is a web view. If you open settings, it will open as a web page. If you open history, it will open as a web page. Navigate these interfaces as though they are web pages and you will get a good deal of information about the structure of the program. There are times when you need to turn off browse mode or the Virtual PC cursor, names for the same thing in different screen-readers, to work with parts of this or that interface but in general, you can treat them as you would web pages. Gene
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From: Sharon Hooley Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:45 AM To: Techtalk Subject: [TechTalk] Chrome Newby Hi, Is there an accessibility user guide for learning Google Chrome? Thanks,
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Re: number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting?
Monte Single
I agree with ann.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Parsons Sent: August 25, 2020 9:58 AM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting? Brian, I don't care how much you quote, though I dislike reams and reams of quoted material. I am referring to your habit of putting the quoted material before your own post. It's difficult for a blind person to read your messages when you format this way. One must read line by line and this takes time and effort. Please take a look at the quoted material below and you'll see what I mean. Since this list is composed almost entirely of people who use screen readers i.e. are blind or visually impaired, it would be a kindness if you could put your post on top of the quoted material! Thank you! Ann P. Original message: On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 07:50 AM, Ann Parsons wrote: Brian, could you please refrain from bottom posting on this list? - And, although Gene has already said it, what I'm doing is not whatchanging that. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com-- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: Chrome Newby
Gerald Levy
Here you go:
Re: [jfw-users] need
getting started help with Chrome
At 04:07 AM 8/27/2019, you wrote:
block quote I downloaded chrome. I am using the latest version of JAWS. I am using a windows 7 and a windows 10 system. Can someone provide help with either windows system on using Chrome please. I launch Chrome but after that I am lost as to how to get a site on the screen or navigate. No one is totally worthless; they can always be used as a bad example. block quote end JAWS Certified, 2014. http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification
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Re: Chrome Newby
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
And whether or not you're an NVDA user, the tutorial, Navigating the Google Chrome browser with the NVDA Screen Reader, will probably be helpful as "screen reader to screen reader" translation as far as the commands for the screen reader itself goes is relatively straightforward. Chrome commands themselves are the same no matter what screen reader you're using.
See more of Gene NZ's tutorials on the accessibilitycentral.net page, nvda tutorials for other programs--Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Re: Chrome Newby
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sharon,
Might I ask what web browser(s) you currently use? You may already know a lot more than you believe you do. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Chrome Newby
Sharon Hooley
Hi,
Is there an accessibility user guide for learning Google Chrome? Thanks,
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Re: number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting?
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 11:50 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
It is difficult for screen reader users to find where the current post starts.- No, it isn't. I routinely put a single hyphen, alone, on a line so that those who feel compelled to avoid hearing the tiny amount of material I quote can find where I begin responding. I post on many blind technology related groups, and it is a very small minority who complain as loudly or as long as you already have. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Re: number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting?
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Ann,
This simple answer is deal, or put me on ignore. I am not obligated to post in a style that you find acceptable, but that I do. The request you made has been made, off and on, by various people and my response is the same. I find it far more nightmarish on long topics such as this one to try to ferret out who most are replying to or what they're replying to. As I said, I have no intention of including context-setting material, at the top, when it serves my purpose to do so. That is my right, and my style. Brian -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com
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Re: number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting?
Ann Parsons
Brian,
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I don't care how much you quote, though I dislike reams and reams of quoted material. I am referring to your habit of putting the quoted material before your own post. It's difficult for a blind person to read your messages when you format this way. One must read line by line and this takes time and effort. Please take a look at the quoted material below and you'll see what I mean. Since this list is composed almost entirely of people who use screen readers i.e. are blind or visually impaired, it would be a kindness if you could put your post on top of the quoted material! Thank you! Ann P. Original message:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 07:50 AM, Ann Parsons wrote: Brian, could you please refrain from bottom posting on this list? - And, although Gene has already said it, what I'm doing is not what most of the world calls bottom-posting. It's a style that works for me, and keeps clear exactly what I'm responding to when that's needed. I don't retain anything when it's not necessary. I have no intention of changing that. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on. ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com --
Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: Not able to hear video on my iPhone, but can listen on my laptop
Gene
I think Youtube uses the term autoplay to mean that after the video you select plays,, others will play. Also, as I recall, you said the video starts to play, then stops. If so, that has nothing to do with autoplay, however the term is used. It could have to do with your signal. Are you using wifi or your phones data connection to play the video? How strong is the signal? does the problem happen in general or in certain locations?
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Gene
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From: Sharon Hooley Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:59 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Not able to hear video on my iPhone, but can listen on my laptop The video was playing from YouTube live in firefox on my laptop, Safari on my phone. I didn't know that autoplay had anything to do with the current video playing. Thanks, On 8/24/2020 11:20 PM, Donna wrote: Hi Sharon,
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Re: number of people acceptable to keep everyone unmuted during a meeting?
Ann Parsons
Hi all,
Well, I call it "bottom posting" because the quoted material comes before the current post. It is difficult for screen reader users to find where the current post starts. Call it what you will, I respectfully ask the gentleman to quit doing it! Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons Portal Tutoring EMAIL: akp@sero.email Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/ Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost."
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Re: Linux groups for the blind
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here is a general linux group for blind users, followed by a web page devoted to blind users of linux with screen readers etc.: blinux-list-request@redhat.com with the word "subscribe" in your subject line. https://pjb.com.au/blin/
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all, --
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Re: Not able to hear video on my iPhone, but can listen on my laptop
Sharon Hooley
The video was playing from YouTube live in firefox on my laptop, Safari on my phone. I didn't know that autoplay had anything to do with the current video playing.
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Thanks,
On 8/24/2020 11:20 PM, Donna wrote:
Hi Sharon,
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