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Re: Happy Thanksgiving

Carlos
 

Since August 29th so a bit over a year.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Happy Thanksgiving

How long has this list been active anyways?

A year?

Great list and I’m thankful it’s here. See what I did there?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:51 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Happy Thanksgiving

 

I would like to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving.  I am grateful that you all continue to support the list and participate to help keep it running.


Re: Saying Goodbye to the Mac

Kimsan
 

How well known is voice over anyways. I mean, set aside the blind community, how many folk are aware of the vo feature.

 

Heck, if I were sighted, I would be rocking vo 24/7. I mean, I could avoid a six car pile up and not have to look down at the texxt that just came in.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Saying Goodbye to the Mac

 

This basically emphasizes my personal reasons for never switching over to a Mac.  A few nice features won't make up in the long run for the flexibility of the Windows platform.  The fact that VoiceOver development and support has taken a backseat is not a surprise since despite what many users may believe, including a screen reader in the operating system by default is just a marketing gimmick and good publicity.  It was not done because Apple cares so much about the blind and accessibility.  I do not claim that Microsoft is any better since this is the nature of most large corporations, but we come back to the flexibility of the Windows platform which to me as a user is much more important.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 1:37 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Saying Goodbye to the Mac

 

Hi All,

 

Just thought some of you might be interested.

 

 As one who has never been motivated to jump from Windows to Mac, I (Dean Martineau) am somewhat vidicated by Jonathan Mosen's latest blog post: "Saying Goodbye to the Mac:"

 

 

Saying Goodbye to the Mac
Jonathan Mosen 11/2016
Introduction

 

My very first computer, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, was an Apple 2C. Eventually, I felt that my needs were better met by a PC, and I didn’t
look back for over 25 years.

 

In 2012, it was time for me to update my trusty Toshiba notebook, and I figured I had nothing to lose by making my next computer a Mac. My decision-making
process was similar to that of a number of blind people who have become more interested in Apple products as a result of the positive impact iPhone has
had on their lives. I’d been impressed by the strong commitment Apple had shown to accessibility on iOS after having introduced VoiceOver to it in 2009.
Having purchased an Apple TV and an iPad, it made sense to delve even further into the Apple ecosystem.

 

Since Macs use Intel processors, I knew that it would be possible to use both OS X as it was then called, and Windows. This meant that on one machine,
I could enjoy the best of both worlds, using any products on either operating system that I felt helped me to get a given job done most efficiently. Choice
is a good thing, and I also relished the intellectual challenge of coming to grips with a new operating system. Kind of like learning a new language, learning
a new OS complete with a different screen reading paradigm helps to keep the brain nimble.

 

If you’re a regular reader of this blog, you know that I believe we can’t afford the luxury of blindly (if I may use that expression) being fans of one
particular brand or other. So I try to use the best mix of tools that help me do the things I need to do for productivity and effective access to information.
We face too many challenges in terms of accessibility, attitudes and discrimination. The technology I use must earn my loyalty on an ongoing basis. If
I feel that my own circumstances have changed, or a product has headed in a direction that doesn’t meet my needs as well as it once did, then I think I
owe it to myself to re-evaluate my choices.

 

My Mac experiment was successful enough that last year, I went all in, and bought a maxed out 15 inch MacBook Pro, largely to address the constraints on
running a virtual machine imposed by the maximum 8GB of RAM in the MacBook Air. It has a 15-inch display because that was the only way I could get the
faster processor. It has 16 GB RAM and a 1 TB solid state hard drive.

 

It’s a lovely piece of hardware and an impressive beast of a machine, but after a lot of thought, I’ve begun the process of replacing it. I’m getting a
machine of similar specs, but it’s a much thinner, lighter machine with more ports, and what for me is the incredibly useful feature of a built-in SIM
slot for LTE connectivity. It is an exclusively Windows machine.

 

So consider this blog post my Mac exit interview. I’d like to comment on some of the highlights of my last four years using the platform, and discuss why
I have made the decision to abandon it.

 

Universality

 

At a philosophical level, I believe that every computer should be accessible out of the box. Some may be surprised that I hold to that view. After all,
it’s no secret that outside of Mosen Consulting, I’m involved with VFO, in particular the Freedom Scientific part of VFO which produces JAWS. I normally
take great care to keep these two roles separate, but since I’m talking about screen readers, I want to be absolutely transparent about it here.

 

I don’t see any conflict in believing in the principle of universal access while also being a user and proponent of a third-party screen reader for which
there is a cost. I believe that every blind person should be able to walk up to every computer and expect to be able to use it. That can happen while retaining
a place for a premium solution that focusses on efficiency, enhancements and difficult applications. You only have to have a rudimentary knowledge of the
blind job market to know that without JAWS, many people who are gainfully employed wouldn’t be keeping food on the table.

 

Apple has been streets ahead of any other company in the area of universal design. It’s a given that a blind person can pick up anything Apple, and get
it to talk. It’s a truly remarkable thing and it’s caused Microsoft and Google to lift their game. So even if you’ve not used an Apple product in your
life, you probably have a lot to thank Apple for.

 

With every Mac I’ve owned, getting it out of its attractive packaging, powering it on and waiting a bit has resulted in an announcement telling me that
MacOS comes equipped with a screen reader called VoiceOver, then telling me how to enable it. From there, I’ve received a brief tutorial on how to perform
basic navigation. It’s a friendly and welcoming experience that extends right through to fully accessible updates of the OS itself.

 

As people become more familiar with MacOS in general, they often appreciate the consistency of the user interface. The menu bar in almost every Mac application
is laid out similarly. Accessing an app’s preferences is almost always achieved with the same keystroke. If there’s a menu function you use all the time
that hasn’t been assigned a keyboard shortcut by the developer, assigning a shortcut yourself takes a few steps that aren’t too hard to learn.

 

The spell checker is available throughout the OS, and is used the same way everywhere.

 

AirPlay is integrated with iOS at the system level. It’s been brilliant to have produced some audio work I wanted to play to the family, and do so simply
by setting the Apple TV as the output device in System Preferences.

 

So with MacOS, universality is more than about accessibility. There’s a consistency of design throughout the operating system which means that once you’ve
grasped the MacOS paradigm, it’s easy to come up to speed with most applications.

 

The fact that VoiceOver is available on every Mac can help greatly when advocating for an app to be accessible. You know without a doubt that the developer
has the same screen reader on their Mac that you do, so you can give them instructions about how to duplicate any accessibility problems you’re dealing
with.

 

But as the old saying goes, philosophy bakes no bread. As the other old saying goes, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We really do need some
lower carb old sayings I think.

 

No choice, no good

 

The universal accessibility built-in to MacOS is a curse as well as a blessing. I don’t know if the APIs are in place to make a third-party screen reader
possible in MacOS, but assuming minimal technical barriers, the economic case for building a third-party screen reader is flimsy. Mac hardware tends to
be more expensive than Windows hardware of the same kind, a trend that has been exacerbated recently with the release of the 2016 MacBook Pro line-up.
Mac users have repeatedly said that for a blind person, you recoup much of this cost in other ways. You save by not paying for a third-party screen reader,
and Mac hardware is well-built and lasts a long time.

 

The only trouble is, VoiceOver hasn’t allowed me to use all the applications I need to use, or in some cases with the degree of efficiency that I’ve become
used to using them in Windows. I readily acknowledge that everyone’s needs will vary, and this piece is simply one person’s candid reflections on four
years of Mac use, but it would not have been possible for me to get all my work done on my Mac if I were not also running Windows on it.

 

Only this week, I read a request on Twitter from an experienced Mac user for whom I have immense respect, asking if anyone had found a good way of dealing
with PDF files on the platform. Under Windows and for that matter iOS, a well-structured PDF file poses no issues at all and indeed can be a pleasure to
use. You navigate it just like any other web document, complete with navigation by headings or links. PDFs can be used to some extent in MacOS with VoiceOver,
but not with the same ease of navigability and interaction that’s possible even with free Windows screen reading solutions.

 

DAISY plays a big part in the lives of many blind people. It’s the standard many accessible format libraries use to provide material in text, audio or
a combination of the two. When I first purchased a Mac back in 2012, DAISY software was available for a three-figure purchase, but I believe that the software
is no longer being developed and I’m not aware of any DAISY reader for MacOS under development, let alone a free one.

 

Writing plays a bit part in my life, and although I’ve tried using a number of MacOS solutions, I’ve not found anything that gives me the ability to proof,
organise, and navigate through a document with the same degree of ease and thoroughness that I can in Windows. I also know of another tech writer in the
blind community who uses a Mac, but runs Windows specifically for word processing tasks. I’m by no means saying that I can’t write a basic, nice-looking
document, or even put together a more complex one, but in my opinion, the more complex the document gets, the larger the efficiency chasm gets between
Mac and Windows. I need to know exactly how a document looks, when there are extraneous spaces between words, and to be able to navigate by various elements
such as headings within the document.

 

Surfing the web has been a mixed bag for me. On certain cluttered sites such as newspapers and tech publications, reader mode, similar to the functionality
available in iOS, is a sanity saver. But despite recent versions of VoiceOver trying to provide for document-style navigation in Safari, using quick keys
is tedious, because you either have to toggle QuickNav on and off, or hold Control, Option and Command down all at once, along side the quick key. I’ve
also found VoiceOver to get stuck repeatedly, Safari is often busy, and it just feels more sluggish than a virtual cursor environment that one finds in
Windows.

 

I’ve found no broadcasting tool that comes close to the efficiency of StationPlaylist in Windows. Hartgen Consultancy have of course scripted it well and
that helps, but even without scripts, it would still give me a degree of efficiency and functionality that I’ve not been able to find on the Mac. Sure,
there are ways of doing broadcasting on the Mac, but not to a standard I’m happy with.

 

I also take pride in being able to respond to an emergency situation wherever I am in the world if Mushroom FM needs my attention. It runs on a dedicated
PC. Even if there were accessible MacOS software that could do the job as well as StationPlaylist does, there’s the matter of being able to remote into
that machine from anywhere, and take care of a problem as if you were sitting in front of the local machine’s keyboard. I need Windows for that.

 

When I bought my first Mac in 2012 running Mountain Lion, I found the mail app a joy to use once I came up to speed. Since then, Apple has introduced added
verbosity in the application, so that in the standard view which I prefer overall, and when messages are grouped by conversation, you must first listen
to the names of every person who has written in a thread before you can find out the thread’s subject. You can get around this by interacting with the
columns of the message table and giving focus to the subject field before arrowing up and down, which is all well and good until you want to read messages
in a given thread, then you must do it all again. For my needs at least, I want to hear the subject of the thread first to know if it’s of interest to
me. The names of the participants in the thread are of secondary importance. This kind of efficiency hit is very important to me, and I have control of
the order in which things speak in Windows.

 

For three and a half years, I endured the absurd inconvenience of having VoiceOver interrupt reading in Twitter clients and other apps where tables were
present every time new data became available. Try to use the streaming features of a Twitter client for example, and VoiceOver would constantly interrupt
the reading of tweets with the announcement “One row added”. I don’t know how many blind people are actively involved in the development of VoiceOver for
MacOS, but it seems remarkable to me that such a frustrating quirk has only been addressed with a verbosity setting this year, especially if VoiceOver
developers are using the product themselves every day.

 

Some apps that worked well when I first got my mac work less well now. When I started Mosen Consulting, I wrote all my blog posts with a fantastic app
called MarsEdit, whose developer has shown an outstanding commitment to accessibility. With the release of Mavericks, VoiceOver became much more unreliable
when using it with the kind of rich edit control MarsEdit uses when writing WYSIWYG posts. It’s a degradation that has also had an ongoing impact on entering
texts on a range of websites. One work-around is to switch to the view that shows you the HTML code as you write, but this can be distracting when you’re
at the part of the writing process where you’re focussed on the words, not the formatting.

 

It feels sometimes that while iOS is thriving, MacOS apps are becoming a bit of a ghost town. Apps I use frequently are updated infrequently, and some,
such as the Radium app I enjoy using so much, are no longer being developed at all.

 

It’s not all doom and gloom though. I have loved using Rogue Amoeba’s Audio Hijack and Airfoil apps, and they’ve done a wonderful job with VoiceOver accessibility.
Audio Hijack is the one app that really gave me pause for thought about abandoning the Mac platform, it will be interesting to see how much of its functionality
I might be able to recreate with Total Recorder in Windows.

 

I’ve also loved using the Djay Pro app for Mac. It’s full of keyboard shortcuts, and the way it integrates with Spotify offering low latency playback is
phenomenal.

 

There are general Mac characteristics that have slowed me down. I use a Synology network attached storage drive. Despite experimenting with multiple protocols,
I have found browsing large folders on it, and file transfers, a lot slower in MacOS than in Windows. Web searches have revealed that this is a common
frustration for many business users in network environments.

 

The best of both worlds

 

There are two ways for a blind person to use Windows on their Mac. One is to Bootcamp it. Bootcamp is available free with all Macs. It takes advantage
of the fact that newer Macs run Intel processors, and creates a separate partition so that you can choose to boot either into Windows or MacOS.

 

It’s simple to set up. All resources are allocated to one OS at a time, so lower spec machines handle it well, and you don’t get some of the audio latency
issues you get with a virtual machine.

 

Disadvantages include having to make a decision about how much of your disk space to allocate to Windows and how much to MacOS. So a machine with a lot
of storage is best here. You may need two copies of some software if you want to access it irrespective of OS, such as Dropbox, Skype and iTunes. With
cloud apps like Dropbox, Bootcamp can be seriously costly in terms of disk space, because you’d have two copies of all the files, one in each OS. You can
of course choose which OS you use for any given task, but then you’ll have to do a lot of booting in and out of the two operating systems.

 

When you’re running Windows under Bootcamp, you lose access to all your continuity features, such as the ability to receive iMessages and FaceTime calls,
as well as the universal clipboard. Continuity is something that just works, and which I’ve very much enjoyed using. Essentially, when you’ve booted into
a Bootcamped Windows, it’s like running a full Windows laptop. I must say, Windows runs beautifully under Bootcamp.

 

Alternatively, in addition to purchasing Windows 10, you can also purchase a copy of VMWare Fusion. This allows you to set up virtual machines, so you
can run Windows from within MacOS. This means you can Command+Tab between Windows and MacOS. You can be working in Windows and still answer iMessages and
FaceTime calls. You can share common folders across both operating systems. So for example you would run Dropbox for Mac, but the folders Dropbox creates
can also be accessible within the virtual machine under Windows.

 

The clipboard is universal across both operating systems. I’ve often copied chunks of text from Mac Mail to the clipboard, and pasted them into Word for
Windows. Totally nifty.

 

Virtual machines have saved me a lot of time and frustration over the last four years. Because a virtual machine is one very large file, mine got to about
50GB, you can back it up easily before doing anything drastic to Windows. Not sure if you’re going to like the new version of Office, or the Windows Anniversary
Update? Copy the virtual machine’s file somewhere safe, perform the installation, and if you were happier with how things were before, copy the old file
back. It’s fantastic.

 

You can also make configuration changes to your virtual machines to assess their impact, such as the number of cores, RAM allocated to the VM, and more.
In recent years, JAWS has been modified to become far more tolerant of these sorts of changes, so losses of authorisations are much more rare now.

 

Disadvantages include the fact that you have to share your computers resources between two operating systems. You might be able to get away with it with
8GB of RAM, but I personally think 16GB is necessary for a truly smooth experience. That allows you to allocate 8GB to each OS. You also need to decide
how many CPU cores to allocate to the VM.

 

If you use Braille as I do, you may need to repeatedly connect and disconnect your Braille display from the virtual machine, for example you may be reading
a document in Word for Windows, then you want to read Mail in Mac OS. I find Braille support in Mac OS to be poor, so I have seldom used it. It is difficult,
for example, to continuously read a multi-page document fluently in Braille using a word processor.

 

There are some audio latency issues, so I wouldn’t recommend precise audio editing under a VM unless you want to connect an external audio interface directly
to the virtual machine. In those cases, sadly audio can get glitchy from time to time. I found myself choosing not to use certain applications as a result
of this. TeamTalk, for instance, is doable but fiddly on a Mac, but a joy to use in Windows. So I have tended not to bother with it at all because of the
audio latency issues inherent in a VM.

 

Battery life is also a consideration. Running two operating systems side by side will drain your battery more quickly. And if you spend the majority of
your time in Windows as I do, you may begin to wonder why you’re continuing to bother to take the battery hit at all.

 

This is an appropriate time for me to make an important point. It’s true what they say, familiarity breeds contempt. People who use Windows exclusively
often think that if they could just afford to make the switch to a Mac, all the bugs would be gone and the grass will be greener. My perception is that
VoiceOver is less polished on the Mac now than it was four years ago. And specifically in the context of discussing battery life, I was shocked when I
got my new MacBook Pro to find that I was only getting around four hours of battery life, not the nine I had been promised by the promotional literature.
It turned out that some people experience this after using the Migration Assistant built into the Mac. This is supposed to make it effortless to get a
brand new Mac and transfer all your apps and customisations over from the old one. So I took the time to erase my Mac entirely, install everything from
scratch, and things improved a lot, although battery life is still impacted, quite understandably, by running Fusion.

 

Finally, you can have a hybrid, where you create a Bootcamp partition, then create a virtual machine from that partition. This means you can choose to
boot fully into Windows when you need to, or you can run both when you want to. This is cool in theory and it’s something I would probably have tried if
I weren’t getting out of Mac, but one disadvantage is that many apps that require you to authorise see the full Bootcamp installation and the VM as two
separate copies of Windows, so you may need to authorise them twice. It also creates some of the dilemmas with apps like Dropbox that I covered above.

 

When I began working with virtual machines in 2012, I set things up right away with the help of two wonderful, free utilities called Karabiner and Seil.
The upshot of setting these up the way they used to work is that the Caps Lock key became the VoiceOver key in MacOS, and the Insert key in Windows, ideal
for use with a screen reader. VoiceOver now has its own setting for the Caps Lock key in MacOS, but that doesn’t take care of mapping your Caps Lock key
to Insert in Windows. These tools stopped working with the recent MacOS software update, Sierra. They’ll probably come back to life at some point, but
for now, I’ve had to use a less satisfactory solution to map the Tilde key as my Insert key. I have JAWS scripts that also make use of this key, so it’s
not ideal.

 

This problem of things breaking after an OS update is not unique to these utilities. I’ve found with each MacOS update that some driver or app simply stops
working. That’s a real issue when the manufacturer has chosen not to update the driver, or the app developer has moved on.

 

I’ve also found that since upgrading from Windows 7 to 10, my Dragon Naturally Speaking app for Windows, something that was a big part of my productivity
thanks to the J-Dictate scripts for JAWS, stopped working reliably. Dragon hooks into things at a low level, and I suspect my virtual machine just isn’t
the optimal environment in which to run it, since these issues aren’t being widely reported by Windows 10 users in general.

 

The combination of avoiding certain audio apps, the increased latency in others, the poorer battery life, the loss of the Caps Lock functionality and problems
with Dragon have left me increasingly dissatisfied with the VM solution. 

 

Mac needs an O&M instructor

 

I’m not alone in having formed the view that Mac seems to be struggling for a sense of direction in the face of iOS’s extraordinary success. When iPad
Pro was released last year, Tim Cook made repeated statements about iPad Pro being a computer, and how most people could do everything they needed to do with it. At the time I thought it was an odd way to undercut the Mac brand, but I mean hey, he’s CEO of one of the most successful companies in the world
and he knows how to position his stuff.

 

Many sighted bloggers have written about how, after trying the iPad Pro as their primary computing device for a couple of weeks, they were glad to get
back to their laptops. Such bloggers talked about the lack of even a basic file manager in iOS hindering ease of use, about sandboxing making it harder
to do basic things like attaching files than it should be. So there is clearly a niche for computers to fill, and any computer manufacturer needs to be
clear about the nature of that niche.

 

Like many people, I’m doing more now with my iThings than ever before. For my personal use, I do Twitter almost exclusively with Twitterific. A number
of new features, such as quoted tweets, are not available in the Night Owl Twitter client for the Mac, and I’ve not found a way of stopping the time stamp
from being spoken between the sender of the tweet and the tweet body in the newly accessible Twitter for Mac app.

 

When I want to read news, I grab my iPhone or iPad and use Lire RSS reader. When I’m shopping, I’ll open up a browser on an iDevice more often than not.
And I answer most casual email on an iDevice as well.

 

I don’t own any dedicated blindness book reading device, so I do all my reading on an iDevice from many sources.

 

But I come back to my laptop for serious content creation. I may do a bit of drafting of a book in Word on my iPad, but when I’m seriously reviewing it
and applying formatting, I’m back on the laptop. When it’s appropriate, I record sound on my iPhone, but I edit it on my computer. I do live broadcasting
and voice tracking from my computer. I like to do serious dictation from my computer.

 

I can reboot the Mushroom FM PC from my phone, but to work with it remotely, I use my computer.

 

Do you see the pattern? All the things I like to do in MacOS, I can do in iOS. But all the things I like to do on my computer, I find more efficient and
accessible in Windows.

 

Can I see a time when I’ll do more of these tasks on an iDevice? Possibly. For me, keyboard shortcuts will play a big part in this. I still haven’t found
an iOS sound editor that lets me mark chunks of audio and delete or move them with the same ease as I can in Amadeus on the Mac or Studio Recorder and
any number of other tools in Windows. Ferrite is the closest I’ve found, but it’s not quite there yet in my view. I use Twitterific so much because when
I’m sitting down with my keyboard on the iPad, I’m every bit as efficient dealing with the information as I am in Windows or the Mac. There’s no reason
why we can’t encourage other iOS app developers to do what Twitterific have done.

 

The Mac has traditionally been a keyboard user’s dream. They have loved their keyboard shortcuts.

 

Legacy keyboard shortcuts are probably going to be fine, but I wonder how much attention will be paid to them with new software, or updates to existing
apps, now that the touch bar is a thing. True, it’s only available in a couple of models at present, but unless it’s a flop, we can expect to see the touch
bar rolled out to all new units in time, much as Touch ID and 3D Touch has been in iOS.

 

There’s no question that it’s accessible and handy. It’s cool for a sighted person to be able to glance at the little screen, and see context-sensitive
icons. Also, the default behaviour on Mac has been for the function keys that the touch bar is replacing to be used for system functions. It’s therefore
quite uncommon for MacOS apps to have made extensive use of function keys. If the majority of users can have those bland keys replaced by an interactive
touch screen that provides the same system functions but a whole lot more, then I suspect it’s a win for most people.

 

But it isn’t a win for someone like me, who has been making extensive use of Windows while also being a Mac user. I could use an external keyboard where
necessary, but that’s one more gadget to carry. And that segways me nicely into my next point.

 

I was delighted to see many people speaking up about the increasing number of dongles Apple are now saddling us with. Because when you make a device thin
and light, and in the process deprive people of essential functionality so they have to carry a bunch of accessories around with them, thin and light is
a poisoned chalice that makes a myth of the adage that Apple stuff “just works”.

 

I’ve already blogged extensively here about the impact the removal of the headphone jack has had on those of us who wear hearing aids, as well as people
in general who want to use their phone and charge it at the same time. The night before Bonnie and I left for our recent trip to the US, I was waiting
anxiously for the arrival of the Belkin accessory that allows you to connect two Lightning devices to the iPhone at once. The courier was delayed, and
I had to plead my case with the courier company to make an urgent delivery. Were they not able to do so, I wouldn’t have been able to use my iPhone all
the way through a 12-hour flight, since it needed to be connected to a power source at some point. And they call this progress, and brave.

 

With the new Macs, Apple has chosen to go all-in on USB-C, even though they don’t even include a USB-C to Lightning cable in their own iPhone and iPad
box, and even though many accessories will require adapters protruding from the USB-C ports. It’s the continuation of a trend where Apple have put geekdom
over practicality.

 

Despite once having one of the best keyboards on any laptop I’ve ever used, Apple has replaced it with a different kind of keyboard that reminds me of
a cramped netbook I used years ago, all in the name of thinness. Travel is less, and keys feel less clearly defined. Some people are already reporting
that they have adapted over time, a few have returned new machines, calling the new keyboard a deal breaker. There are very thin, light devices, the HP
Spector for one, with what to me at least feels like much better keyboards than those now offered by Apple.

 

Despite protestations, Apple removed the Ethernet port from the MacBook Pro some time ago, and to me, that was the start of the MacBook Pro no longer being
for pros.

 

Wireless Ethernet may be fine in many consumer and some business situations, but for many professionals wired Ethernet is a must-have feature. If you’ve
ever been to a hotel in a built-up metropolitan area, you’ve probably seen how congested the Wi-Fi spectrum can be. Coverage can be patchy, many people
may be trying to access the network, and it’s just a horrible, frustrating experience when your livelihood depends on connectivity. Often, plugging into
wired Ethernet can make the world of difference.

 

Then there’s the type of professional who has been loyal to Mac for years, those who create multimedia content. These people understand that currently
available Wi-Fi technology is half duplex. So even if you’re in a perfect 802.11AC coverage area, and your system is reporting very fast connectivity,
that connectivity is not at all the same as the quality of what you experience using wired Ethernet. For people dealing with plenty of multimedia content
in both directions, this stuff really matters.

 

Sure, you can get a dongle that plugs into the Thunderbolt/USB-C port of your Mac, but it’s one more thing to keep track of, one more thing to leave behind
in a hotel room. I had several close shaves nearly losing the little adapter that allowed me to plug headphones into my iPhone, the same thing I could
do this time last year without any dongle.

 

I’ve become increasingly frustrated with Apple’s “We know best” attitude, making us go through hoops to achieve things we can do effortlessly on other
devices, and that we could until recently achieve without accessories.

 

At the same time, Apple is not adding functionality that would add value to my experience. On the Mac side of things, I don’t really mind the Touch bar
either way. I don’t think it will improve my experience very much, but if some people benefit from it, then groovy. Had they added the touch bar without
subtracting the function keys, as a blind Mac and Windows user, I’d have felt much more comfortable.

 

But what would have made a huge difference to me would have been the inclusion of 4G/LTE functionality, such as is available in some iPad models. Indeed,
the iPad Pro 9.7 inch model comes equipped with an embedded Apple SIM. Now that’s truly game changing. I was able to land in Los Angeles, whip out my iPad
Pro, and choose from a menu of local carriers. I could inspect the plans each carrier offered, choose the one that suited my needs the best, and I was
online right away, avoiding roaming charges. I believe that many mobile professionals would have valued this feature far more than the Touch bar.

 

Where to from here?

 

It’s taken me a while to reach the point where I’ve realised that I don’t have too much to lose by leaving the Mac world completely. I’ve enjoyed using
mail overall, but Outlook will do just fine in Windows. Amadeus Pro has been really great, but Windows is not spoiled for accessible and well-scripted
audio creation options. My RSS reader has started reading things in a less efficient order since Sierra, and since you can’t customise the order in which
items are read in VoiceOver, I’ve pretty much abandoned the app in favour of an iOS equivalent.

 

Radium is no longer being developed.

 

Chrome is working very well on Windows these days. VLC is in Windows too.

 

Siri is on the Mac now, but it speaks less automatically than it does in iOS, where I find myself using Google’s voice search because of the concise and
accurate responses it gives back.

 

I am going to miss not being able to quickly answer a text message or call on the Mac, but it’s a cool thing rather than essential thing.

 

I didn’t want to abandon what I’m using until I was sure that my productivity would genuinely benefit.

 

After a lot of research, I’ve gone with a device that is only sold direct to businesses, the Toshiba Portege Z30-C. With 16GB of RAM and 1TB of solid state
storage, plus an I7 processor, I have as much grunt as I did with the MacBook Pro, but in a much smaller, thinner, lighter magnesium package.

 

The cool thing is, it ticks lots of my boxes. I have three USB 3.0 ports, one more than on my MacBook Pro. There’s an SD slot, HDMI, even an older video
out port for those PowerPoint presentations. I have a 1GB wired Ethernet port, so bye bye to all annoying dongles. But best of all, I have the thing I
really want, built-in LTE. I can put a SIM from my carrier straight into my laptop, and have connectivity wherever I have cell coverage, and all with around
12 hours of battery life.

 

There’s a part in the second radio series of the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, when a marketing executive from a shoe manufacturer is asked to explain
why one of the employees is limping. The answer he offers is, “his feet are the wrong size for his shoes”. And that reminds me of some of Apple’s recent
decisions. With the laptop I’ve just bought, I feel like I’ve purchased a device that thought about my needs and created a product to meet them, while
I’ve abandoned a product that expected me to endure inconveniences to conform to their vision and worldview that isn’t reality yet.

 

Are there compromises I’ve had to live with as a result of this purchase? Oh yes. Technology choices are about weighing up the pros and cons and determining
which are the most important to you personally. The speakers in this new laptop are absolutely dreadful, whereas the speakers in the 2016 MacBook Pro are
mind-blowing. I’m told the screen is OK but not super, which of course I’m relaxed about.

 

But I’m saying goodbye to latency in Windows, hello to Dragon once again, welcome back to longer battery life, and it really feels good.

 

Let me conclude with a statement that hopefully is obvious to most. I’m not at all saying that the mac isn’t a viable option. If I were producing pre-recorded
audio full-time and doing email and casual web surfing for instance, I may have made different choices. This is a summary of the considerations that have
led to my most recent technology choice. I wrote all this down to offer one perspective to consider if you’re looking at making a technology purchasing
decision. The apps you use may be different. The way you use your technology will almost certainly be different.

 

With the move towards the touch bar and the increasing need for dongles, I just feel that for my own personal requirements, it’s time for Mac and me to
part. I do so with no regrets, and tremendous gratitude for the learning experience. I’m also grateful that, like anyone else, we as blind people can choose
the platform that works for us personally based on our own needs and preferences. We live in an exciting time, and I’ll continue to watch Mac developments
closely. 

 

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: Happy Thanksgiving

Kimsan
 

How long has this list been active anyways?

A year?

Great list and I’m thankful it’s here. See what I did there?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:51 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Happy Thanksgiving

 

I would like to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving.  I am grateful that you all continue to support the list and participate to help keep it running.


Question About The Webbie Test Browser

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


For laughs and giggles, I downloaded and installed Webbie 4.0. It has some interesting features. The keystrokes and approaches aren't quite so intuitive as with Firefox/NVDA or any other browsers with typical screen readers, but I do like the way it displays some pages.


The biggest issue I have with it is that on web pages with embedded audio or video, it takes an incredibly long period of time to load. Is there any way to stop the video/audio from loading and would that speed up the page load significantly?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: SodaStream usability

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

Cristbal <crismunoz54@...> wrote:
Was thinking of buying a SodaStream and was wondering if anyones used it
and if there are any issues for a blind person when using it?

First get yourself a good kitchen funnel. Pouring those syrups into those narrow bottles can be a little messy otherwise.
What happens is the syrups come with a funny lid. You pour the syrup into the lid of its bottle, then pour from the lid into the soda stream bottle.
Walmart carries supplies for them, but honestly, you might be etter off trying to make your own syrups. They have gotten ridiculously expensive.
Another option is to use Mio water enhancers. They come in little 2 or 3 ounce bottles. What they are is essence flavorings that you add to bottled water. These are fruity and delicious and a lot cheaper than Sodastream syrups. Although making syrups can be fun, if you have time to experiment.
The CO2 cartridges are expensive, too. Something like sixty dollars. Walmart used to have a deal where if you brought in your old one you could exchange it for a new one at half price, but I do not know if they still have this running. You will have to call your customer service desk there and ask.
There is another option: you can refill your CO2 cartridges at some place like a dive shop or paintball shop. See this article:
http://boingboing.net/2016/03/04/ditch-your-overpriced-sodastre.html
Hope this helps a little.


Re: New Yahoo Account

Kimsan
 

Yeah, I’ve been told that lots of times.

I’m not sending it back, you almost killed my buzz there home skillet.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Yo Dog,

 

Well, this doesn't sound like a joke:

I love you bro. I’m sending back the wireless headset you got me for christmas.”

I read the ha ha ha's before that, but if this is your idea of joking around you have a sense of humor I sure as hell don't understand.

 

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

That was a joke bro. Look at the first part of the email. My weird sense of humor strikes again!

 

I love it. Ho Ho Ho!

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Yo Bro from another Mo,

 

Why are you sending that headset back?  Just curious.  I thought you liked it, & it worked well for your needs.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Man, not sure but if I am in a chrisis, I better not email my brother from another mother Mike B.

 

I sent myself a test email to the primary email address last night, and it was received 10 this morning.

 

Hahaha, “Mike, I have 12 hours to live. I love you bro. I’m sending back the wireless headset you got me for christmas.”

By the time he gets it, I’ll have 2 hours left on earth.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Ah I see.  I thought it might be something like that, but I wasn't sure.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Carlos,

 

What he's talking about is, when you get to that link to click on, Turn the “Allow apps that use less secure sign in” setting to “On“, is the color gray by default, but after you click on it & presumably turn it on, it turns to blue.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:40 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Are you speaking figuratively?  Because otherwise I have no idea what you mean when you say blue instead of gray.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:00 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hahaha, I’ve been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don’t I?

In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?

So to clarify, I didn’t fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.

Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.

I’ve done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.

Thanks boss.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

 

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.

They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.

Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

 

Thanks.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Pam,

 

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?!  Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help.  Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer.  I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone.  When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person.  This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip.  Everybody has to call him to get the help!  (as he puffs out his stomach)  Pam.

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi John,

 

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen!  I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.  Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck.  Thanks for your input.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,
 
Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo.  It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole.  LOL  There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me.  The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.
 
YAHOO 
 
 
Hi Mike,
 
You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.
 
 
Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.
 
If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.  They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.
 
Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click?  If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible.  Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself.  See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I was searching around the Internet to see if I could  find out
how to
>> solve
>> this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
>> etc,
>> and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
>> enable
>> pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
>> 'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
>> that
>> blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
>> see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
>> signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
>> feature'
>> browser view to enable it in settings.
>>
>> Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.
>>
>> BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
>> better
>> than IE.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need
to run
>> Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
>> me
>> that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend
had
>> surgery
>> yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
>> more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have
any
>> success
>> beforehand.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
>> It
>> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
>> your
>> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
>> This
>> is in your Account Security link.
>>
>> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
>> my
>> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in

>> Outlook?
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
>> using
>> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>>
>> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
>> list of 5 items
>> In
>> Yahoo Mail,
>> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
>> Click Accounts.
>> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>> Click Save.
>>
>> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
>> accounts....,
>> but when I get here,
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>>
>> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
>> may help with your query.
>>
>> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
>> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
>> views,
>> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
>> the
>> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>>
>> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
>> Mail
>> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
>> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
>> displayed
>> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>>
>> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
>> access
>> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
>> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>>
>> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
>> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:
>>
>> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>>
>> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>>
>> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>>
>> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;
>>
>> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
>> turn
>> Quick Nav off;
>>
>> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>>
>> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
>> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
>> button;
>>
>> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
>> press
>> the Enter key.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
>> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
>> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of
getting to
>> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
>> Mail?
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>






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Re: New Yahoo Account

Mike B. <MiBru9902@...>
 

Yo Dog,
 
Well, this doesn't sound like a joke:
I love you bro. I’m sending back the wireless headset you got me for christmas.”
I read the ha ha ha's before that, but if this is your idea of joking around you have a sense of humor I sure as hell don't understand.
 
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That was a joke bro. Look at the first part of the email. My weird sense of humor strikes again!

 

I love it. Ho Ho Ho!

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Yo Bro from another Mo,

 

Why are you sending that headset back?  Just curious.  I thought you liked it, & it worked well for your needs.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Man, not sure but if I am in a chrisis, I better not email my brother from another mother Mike B.

 

I sent myself a test email to the primary email address last night, and it was received 10 this morning.

 

Hahaha, “Mike, I have 12 hours to live. I love you bro. I’m sending back the wireless headset you got me for christmas.”

By the time he gets it, I’ll have 2 hours left on earth.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Ah I see.  I thought it might be something like that, but I wasn't sure.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Carlos,

 

What he's talking about is, when you get to that link to click on, Turn the “Allow apps that use less secure sign in” setting to “On“, is the color gray by default, but after you click on it & presumably turn it on, it turns to blue.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:40 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Are you speaking figuratively?  Because otherwise I have no idea what you mean when you say blue instead of gray.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:00 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hahaha, I’ve been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don’t I?

In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?

So to clarify, I didn’t fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.

Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.

I’ve done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.

Thanks boss.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

 

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.

They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.

Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

 

Thanks.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Pam,

 

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?!  Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help.  Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer.  I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone.  When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person.  This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip.  Everybody has to call him to get the help!  (as he puffs out his stomach)  Pam.

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi John,

 

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen!  I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.  Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck.  Thanks for your input.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,
 
Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo.  It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole.  LOL  There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me.  The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.
 
YAHOO 
 
 
Hi Mike,
 
You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.
 
 
Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.
 
If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.  They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.
 
Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click?  If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible.  Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself.  See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I was searching around the Internet to see if I could  find out
how to
>> solve
>> this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
>> etc,
>> and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
>> enable
>> pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
>> 'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
>> that
>> blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
>> see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
>> signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
>> feature'
>> browser view to enable it in settings.
>>
>> Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.
>>
>> BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
>> better
>> than IE.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need
to run
>> Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
>> me
>> that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend
had
>> surgery
>> yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
>> more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have
any
>> success
>> beforehand.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
>> It
>> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
>> your
>> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
>> This
>> is in your Account Security link.
>>
>> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
>> my
>> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in

>> Outlook?
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
>> using
>> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>>
>> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
>> list of 5 items
>> In
>> Yahoo Mail,
>> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
>> Click Accounts.
>> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>> Click Save.
>>
>> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
>> accounts....,
>> but when I get here,
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>>
>> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
>> may help with your query.
>>
>> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
>> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
>> views,
>> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
>> the
>> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>>
>> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
>> Mail
>> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
>> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
>> displayed
>> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>>
>> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
>> access
>> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
>> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>>
>> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
>> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:
>>
>> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>>
>> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>>
>> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>>
>> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;
>>
>> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
>> turn
>> Quick Nav off;
>>
>> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>>
>> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
>> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
>> button;
>>
>> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
>> press
>> the Enter key.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
>> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
>> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of
getting to
>> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
>> Mail?
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>







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Re: New Yahoo Account

Kimsan
 

I know how to do it, as momma's done it before.
I just hate doing it lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hello,
I have 6 accounts on the braille sense, and they all come into one inbox. I think you can configure clients to use one inbox for everything.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five at my disposal.
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On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:

Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.
Thanks boss.

? <>
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com <http://pop.mail.yahoo.com/> POP
port: 995 POP SSL/TLS: yes POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email
address POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password SMTP server:
smtp.mail.yahoo.com <http://smtp.mail.yahoo.com/> SMTP port: 465
(try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors) SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email
address SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com <http://yayhoo.com/>.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Mike B.. via
Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are
not more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is
nothing we can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring
Yahoo CS? As I'm in the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm
not that interested in the Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using
a computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who
actually blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many
questions about his computer product and he didn't believe that I
was totally blind and knew so much about computers! He didn't want
me to leave negative feedback, so he blocked me - should have more
confidence in his items! After all these years I'm still surprised
at the ignorance of certain people - should really know better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without
any luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It
was a bitch at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind &
using a computer so, I had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There
was a bit of a language barrier, but we managed to get around that
to the point of, them having to get a supervisor on the phone with
me. The 1st dude had logged onto my computer & when the supervisor
got on with me he was able to understand the setting that needed to
be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to
access your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email
applications that do not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards
to access your account and may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared
to explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is
on their server, & not on your computer if you already have the
account set-up. They didn't believe that the setting was on their
server until I showed them I had the account on the computer
configured correctly, & that the setting on the server had to be
activated so the server & my email client could communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of
mouse click is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
<mailto:mwb5781@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says, Click
Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be
very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See
the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
<https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out
how to
solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.

BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need
to run
Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend
had
surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have
any
success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in
Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access list of 5 items In Yahoo
Mail, mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts...., but when I get here, Go to the bottom of the page
under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of
getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five at my disposal.

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Group administrator for the following
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http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruisin
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Email
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Telephone
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On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:


Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.
Thanks boss.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address POP password: your
Yahoo! Mail password SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com SMTP port: 465
(try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors) SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email
address SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are
not more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is
nothing we can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring
Yahoo CS? As I'm in the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not
that interested in the Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions
about his computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally
blind and knew so much about computers! He didn't want me to leave
negative feedback, so he blocked me - should have more confidence in
his items! After all these years I'm still surprised at the ignorance
of certain people - should really know better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without
any luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It
was a bitch at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using
a computer so, I had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit
of a language barrier, but we managed to get around that to the point
of, them having to get a supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st
dude had logged onto my computer & when the supervisor got on with me
he was able to understand the setting that needed to be changed, &
here's the message they sent, as a confirmation of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to
access your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email
applications that do not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards
to access your account and may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on
their server, & not on your computer if you already have the account
set-up. They didn't believe that the setting was on their server
until I showed them I had the account on the computer configured
correctly, & that the setting on the server had to be activated so the
server & my email client could communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says, Click
Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See
the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out
how to
solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.

BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need
to run
Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend
had
surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have
any
success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in
Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access list of 5 items In Yahoo
Mail, mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings..
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts...., but when I get here, Go to the bottom of the page
under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
"Basic.." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of
getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: New Yahoo Account

Kimsan
 

That was a joke bro. Look at the first part of the email. My weird sense of humor strikes again!

 

I love it. Ho Ho Ho!

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Yo Bro from another Mo,

 

Why are you sending that headset back?  Just curious.  I thought you liked it, & it worked well for your needs.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Man, not sure but if I am in a chrisis, I better not email my brother from another mother Mike B.

 

I sent myself a test email to the primary email address last night, and it was received 10 this morning.

 

Hahaha, “Mike, I have 12 hours to live. I love you bro. I’m sending back the wireless headset you got me for christmas.”

By the time he gets it, I’ll have 2 hours left on earth.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Ah I see.  I thought it might be something like that, but I wasn't sure.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Carlos,

 

What he's talking about is, when you get to that link to click on, Turn the “Allow apps that use less secure sign in” setting to “On“, is the color gray by default, but after you click on it & presumably turn it on, it turns to blue.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:40 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Are you speaking figuratively?  Because otherwise I have no idea what you mean when you say blue instead of gray.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:00 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hahaha, I’ve been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don’t I?

In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?

So to clarify, I didn’t fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.

Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.

I’ve done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.

Thanks boss.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

 

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.

They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.

Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

 

Thanks.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Pam,

 

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?!  Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help.  Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer.  I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone.  When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person.  This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip.  Everybody has to call him to get the help!  (as he puffs out his stomach)  Pam.

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi John,

 

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen!  I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.  Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck.  Thanks for your input.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,
 
Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo.  It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole.  LOL  There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me.  The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.
 
YAHOO 
 
 
Hi Mike,
 
You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.
 
 
Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.
 
If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.  They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.
 
Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click?  If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible.  Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself.  See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I was searching around the Internet to see if I could  find out
how to
>> solve
>> this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
>> etc,
>> and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
>> enable
>> pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
>> 'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
>> that
>> blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
>> see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
>> signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
>> feature'
>> browser view to enable it in settings.
>>
>> Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.
>>
>> BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
>> better
>> than IE.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need
to run
>> Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
>> me
>> that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend
had
>> surgery
>> yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
>> more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have
any
>> success
>> beforehand.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
>> It
>> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
>> your
>> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
>> This
>> is in your Account Security link.
>>
>> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
>> my
>> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in

>> Outlook?
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
>> using
>> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>>
>> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
>> list of 5 items
>> In
>> Yahoo Mail,
>> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
>> Click Accounts.
>> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>> Click Save.
>>
>> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
>> accounts....,
>> but when I get here,
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>>
>> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
>> may help with your query.
>>
>> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
>> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
>> views,
>> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
>> the
>> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>>
>> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
>> Mail
>> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
>> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
>> displayed
>> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>>
>> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
>> access
>> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
>> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>>
>> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
>> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:
>>
>> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>>
>> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>>
>> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>>
>> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;
>>
>> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
>> turn
>> Quick Nav off;
>>
>> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>>
>> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
>> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
>> button;
>>
>> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
>> press
>> the Enter key.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
>> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
>> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of
getting to
>> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
>> Mail?
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>







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Re: New Yahoo Account

Kimsan
 

I had a mac but it got set on fire.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five at my disposal.

 

On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:

 

Hahaha, I’ve been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don’t I?

In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?

So to clarify, I didn’t fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.

Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.

I’ve done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.

Thanks boss.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

 

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.

They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.

Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

 

Thanks.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Pam,

 

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?!  Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help.  Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer.  I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone.  When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person.  This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip.  Everybody has to call him to get the help!  (as he puffs out his stomach)  Pam.

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi John,

 

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen!  I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.  Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck.  Thanks for your input.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,
 
Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo.  It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole.  LOL  There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me.  The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.
 
YAHOO  
 
 
Hi Mike, 
 
You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks. 
 
 
Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it. 
 
If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.  They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.
 
Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@... 
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@... 
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click?  If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@... 
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the 
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible.  Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I 
have not had the opportunity to test this myself.  See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I was searching around the Internet to see if I could  find out
how to 
>> solve
>> this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password 
>> etc,
>> and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only 
>> enable
>> pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
>> 'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However, 
>> that
>> blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
>> see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
>> signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full 
>> feature'
>> browser view to enable it in settings.
>>
>> Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.
>>
>> BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any 
>> better
>> than IE.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf 
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need
to run
>> Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told 
>> me
>> that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend
had 
>> surgery
>> yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
>> more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have
any 
>> success
>> beforehand.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages! 
>> It
>> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at 
>> your
>> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it! 
>> This
>> is in your Account Security link.
>>
>> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf 
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow 
>> my
>> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in

>> Outlook?
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf 
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express 
>> using
>> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>>
>> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
>> list of 5 items
>> In
>> Yahoo Mail,
>> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
>> Click Accounts.
>> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>> Click Save.
>>
>> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings / 
>> accounts....,
>> but when I get here,
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>>
>> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
>> may help with your query.
>>
>> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
>> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured 
>> views,
>> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access 
>> the
>> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>>
>> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo 
>> Mail
>> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
>> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're 
>> displayed
>> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>>
>> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to 
>> access
>> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
>> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>>
>> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
>> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:
>>
>> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>>
>> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>>
>> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>>
>> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;
>>
>> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to 
>> turn
>> Quick Nav off;
>>
>> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>>
>> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
>> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
>> button;
>>
>> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and 
>> press
>> the Enter key.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf 
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
>> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
>> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of
getting to
>> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo 
>> Mail?
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
> 










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Re: Openbook 9.0 Scanning Problems

David Ferrin <df7782@...>
 

When I got my first scanning system almost 22 years ago it did not work until I realized that covering the light bar was a bit of tape from the shipping container.

I had already called tech support and then had to call them back to admit I found the problem. Just jumping in here with my own experience.

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen West
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Openbook 9.0 Scanning Problems

I don't know if this will work, since I use the Pearl with OpenBook.
Try enabling the camera light with control l. Also, another option for
activating a scan is pressing the spacebar.

Allen

On 11/23/16, John Gregory <john.gm.gregory@...> wrote:
Hi,



Question for those who use Openbook 9.0.



When I place a letter on the scanner bed and press F4 to scan the document:



1. It states 'Scan Initiated' and proceeds to scan;

2. After the scan is complete and processing has finished it
announces
'Current page is blank'.



I know for certain the page isn't blank, so what is going on with the
program? I haven't changed any settings, the program recognises my MF
printer/scanner and, to all intents and purposes, completes the scan.



Am I missing something here? Any help welcome.



P.S. It is not my scanner as document recognition works perfectly fine in
Omnipage, but Omnipage is normally a two stage process and Openbook, when
it
works, is probably quicker.



John.




Re: Remote Depositing

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Hmm, the Giraffe Reader MAY NOT fit the bill if you are an Androidean!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Remote Depositing

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Rob, there should be an app from your bank that you can install on your
phone or other smart device. You will have to launch the app, access the
account you want to make a deposit into, then take a picture of the check
and upload it. You may possibly need sighted assistance to get this done
since the image of the check CANNOT BE READ to you and I by our screen
reader.

You have three other options besides what I described above:

1. Set up a DIRECT DEPOSIT and NEVER HAVE TO WORRY about depositing checks
2. Well, though you may not want to, opening a local account is a necessity
3. Go to the nearest grocery store, cash the check. If you do this, the
store does reserve the right to charge you a processing fee which is about
3% over invoice which, in this case refers to the actual face value of the
check here in my bush, may be more or less where you live.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: New Yahoo Account

Carlos
 

LOL I'm not sure I can confirm that every single client can do it, only that most probably can.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


OK, thanks for confirming what I thought, which was that all clients could do it.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Even outdated Outlook Express works this way. So does it's later
incarnation Windows Mail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


I'm pretty sure either outlook or thunderbird has it. If not, IOS and note
takers.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:20 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yeah most notetakers do have that. But the Windows computers that I had I
haven't found that functionality in those clients.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
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On Nov 24, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hello,
I have 6 accounts on the braille sense, and they all come into one
inbox.. I think you can configure clients to use one inbox for
everything.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then
they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I
have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total
of five at my disposal.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising..ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
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Telephone
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Skype
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facebook
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Twitter
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FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...



On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:

Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response
Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing
miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It
had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I
just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one
inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to
get, though.
Thanks boss.

<>
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these
settings to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com <http://pop.mail.yahoo.com/>
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com <http://smtp.mail.yahoo.com/>
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I
had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com <http://yayhoo.com/>.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap
relating to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Mike B.. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very
uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling
as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was
blind & explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he
has never talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not
going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the
problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a
supervisor on the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook
Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew
exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also
got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable
talking to a blind person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't
want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain
how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call
him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he
changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't
going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind /
visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said
to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech
support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no
such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are
not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is
nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As
I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in
the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who
actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions
about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and
knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback,
so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all
these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should
really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without
any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was
a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer
so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language
barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get
a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my
computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the
setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a
confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to
access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications
that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your
account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone
#:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on
their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account
set-up. They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed
them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the
setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
<mailto:mwb5781@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
<https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out
how to
solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.

BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need
to run
Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend
had
surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have
any
success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in
Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of
getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.




























No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/>
Version: 2016.0.7924 / Virus Database: 4664/13428 - Release Date:
11/17/16

Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then
they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I
have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total
of five at my disposal.

Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising..ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...






On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:


Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response
Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing
miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It
had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I
just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one
inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to
get, though.
Thanks boss.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings
to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I
had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating
to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very
uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as
soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind &
explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never
talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go
into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem
wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on
the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo
properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I
was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong
feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind
person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any
extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had
done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call
him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he
changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't
going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind /
visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said
to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech
support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no
such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are
not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing
we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As
I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in
the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions
about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and
knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so
he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these
years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really
know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without
any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a
bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer
so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language
barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get
a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my
computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the
setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a
confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to
access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications
that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account
and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on
their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.
They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed
them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the
setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out
how to
solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.

BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need
to run
Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend
had
surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have
any
success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in
Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings..
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
"Basic.." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of
getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.




























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Yeah most notetakers do have that. But the Windows computers that I had I
haven't found that functionality in those clients.

Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
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Twitter
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FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...






On Nov 24, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:


Hello,
I have 6 accounts on the braille sense, and they all come into one inbox.
I think you can configure clients to use one inbox for everything.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account




Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then
they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have
for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five
at my disposal.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...




On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:

Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response
Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing
miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had
to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just
got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox,
as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get,
though.
Thanks boss.

<>
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to
work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com <http://pop.mail.yahoo.com/>
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com <http://smtp.mail.yahoo.com/>
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had
with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com <http://yayhoo.com/>.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to
yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk..groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Mike B.. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very
uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as
soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind &
explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never
talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into
a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my
computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When
I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, &
explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, &
during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor
also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think
the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me
trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him
to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed
the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to
happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired
could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having
problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.. Well, I tried
from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your
input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm
in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about
his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew
so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these
years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really
know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a
bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so,
I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language
barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my
computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a
confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that
do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account
and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.
They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting
on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@... <mailto:mwb5781@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
<https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out

how to

solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my

password

etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can

only

enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if

you have a

'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.

However,

that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as

I didn't

see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the

free

signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the

'full

feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the

issue.


BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is

any

better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@.....io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need

to run

Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife

& told

me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend

had

surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to

get any

more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have

any

success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@.....io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox

for ages!

It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,

but at

your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of

doing it!

This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that

will allow

my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server

using POP3.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in



Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk..groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook

Express

using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but

the below

may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in

Yahoo. It

basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full

featured

views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to

access

the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access

Yahoo

Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you

prefer.

Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way

they're

displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon

key to

access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either

"Full-Featured" or

"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the

screen

reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard

shortcut:


1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual

cursor;


c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows

simultaneously to

turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail

Version" then

press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic

radio

button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button

and

press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the

Settings

button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access

your Yahoo

Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of

getting to

the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile

Yahoo

Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then
they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have
for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five
at my disposal.

Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...






On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:


Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response
Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing
miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had
to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just
got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox,
as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get,
though.
Thanks boss.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to
work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had
with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to
yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very
uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as
soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind &
explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never
talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into
a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my
computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When
I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, &
explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, &
during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor
also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think
the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me
trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him
to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed
the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to
happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired
could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having
problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support. Well, I tried
from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your
input.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm
in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about
his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew
so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these
years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really
know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a
bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so,
I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language
barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my
computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a
confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that
do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account
and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.
They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting
on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out

how to

solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my

password

etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can

only

enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if

you have a

'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.

However,

that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as

I didn't

see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the

free

signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the

'full

feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the

issue.


BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is

any

better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need

to run

Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife

& told

me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend

had

surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to

get any

more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have

any

success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox

for ages!

It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,

but at

your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of

doing it!

This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that

will allow

my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server

using POP3.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@.....io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in



Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do.. I'm trying to enable my Outlook

Express

using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings..
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but

the below

may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in

Yahoo. It

basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full

featured

views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to

access

the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access

Yahoo

Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you

prefer.

Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way

they're

displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon

key to

access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either

"Full-Featured" or

"Basic.." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the

screen

reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard

shortcut:


1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual

cursor;


c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows

simultaneously to

turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail

Version" then

press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic

radio

button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button

and

press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the

Settings

button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access

your Yahoo

Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of

getting to

the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile

Yahoo

Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: SodaStream usability

Brent Harding
 


I have one, the one I have doesn't even plug in or anything, the little Co2 bottle screws into the back of it, and the bottle for the water screws on on the front with this heavy straw shaped thing that goes into the bottle that forces the gas in, nothing to be inaccessible about it.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] SodaStream usability

hi I to would like to know a ancer to this as well. from Mich.
 
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:35 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] SodaStream usability
 

Hello list,

Was thinking of buying a SodaStream and was wondering if anyone’s used it and if there are any issues for a blind person when using it?

The wife and I are club soda/mineral water drinkers for the most part and while she’s sighted, I’d like to be able to operate it as well.

Thanks,


Re: New Yahoo Account

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

OK, thanks for confirming what I thought, which was that all clients could do it.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Even outdated Outlook Express works this way. So does it's later
incarnation Windows Mail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


I'm pretty sure either outlook or thunderbird has it. If not, IOS and note
takers.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:20 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yeah most notetakers do have that. But the Windows computers that I had I
haven't found that functionality in those clients.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
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Telephone
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Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
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Twitter
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FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...



On Nov 24, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hello,
I have 6 accounts on the braille sense, and they all come into one
inbox.. I think you can configure clients to use one inbox for
everything.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then
they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I
have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total
of five at my disposal.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising..ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...



On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:

Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response
Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing
miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It
had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I
just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one
inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to
get, though.
Thanks boss.

<>
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these
settings to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com <http://pop.mail.yahoo.com/>
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com <http://smtp.mail.yahoo.com/>
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I
had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com <http://yayhoo.com/>.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap
relating to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Mike B.. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very
uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling
as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was
blind & explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he
has never talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not
going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the
problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a
supervisor on the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook
Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew
exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also
got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable
talking to a blind person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't
want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain
how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call
him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he
changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't
going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind /
visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said
to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech
support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no
such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are
not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is
nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As
I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in
the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who
actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions
about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and
knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback,
so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all
these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should
really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without
any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was
a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer
so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language
barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get
a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my
computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the
setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a
confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to
access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications
that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your
account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone
#:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on
their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account
set-up. They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed
them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the
setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
<mailto:mwb5781@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
<https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out
how to
solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.

BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need
to run
Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend
had
surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have
any
success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in
Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of
getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.




























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Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then
they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I
have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total
of five at my disposal.

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On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:


Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response
Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing
miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It
had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I
just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one
inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to
get, though.
Thanks boss.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings
to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I
had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating
to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very
uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as
soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind &
explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never
talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go
into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem
wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on
the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo
properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I
was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong
feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind
person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any
extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had
done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call
him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he
changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't
going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind /
visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said
to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech
support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no
such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are
not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing
we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As
I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in
the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions
about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and
knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so
he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these
years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really
know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without
any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a
bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer
so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language
barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get
a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my
computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the
setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a
confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to
access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications
that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account
and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on
their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.
They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed
them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the
setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out
how to
solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.

BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need
to run
Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend
had
surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have
any
success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in
Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings..
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
"Basic.." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of
getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Yeah most notetakers do have that. But the Windows computers that I had I
haven't found that functionality in those clients.

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On Nov 24, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:


Hello,
I have 6 accounts on the braille sense, and they all come into one inbox.
I think you can configure clients to use one inbox for everything.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account




Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then
they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have
for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five
at my disposal.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
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blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
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facebook
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Twitter
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FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...




On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:

Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response
Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing
miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had
to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just
got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox,
as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get,
though.
Thanks boss.

<>
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to
work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com <http://pop.mail.yahoo.com/>
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com <http://smtp.mail.yahoo.com/>
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had
with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com <http://yayhoo.com/>.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to
yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk..groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Mike B.. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very
uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as
soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind &
explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never
talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into
a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my
computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When
I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, &
explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, &
during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor
also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think
the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me
trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him
to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed
the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to
happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired
could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having
problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.. Well, I tried
from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your
input.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm
in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about
his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew
so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these
years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really
know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a
bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so,
I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language
barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my
computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a
confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that
do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account
and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.
They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting
on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@... <mailto:mwb5781@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
<mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
<https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out

how to

solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my

password

etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can

only

enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if

you have a

'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.

However,

that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as

I didn't

see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the

free

signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the

'full

feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the

issue.


BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is

any

better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@.....io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need

to run

Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife

& told

me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend

had

surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to

get any

more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have

any

success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@.....io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox

for ages!

It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,

but at

your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of

doing it!

This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that

will allow

my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server

using POP3.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in



Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk..groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook

Express

using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...
<mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but

the below

may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in

Yahoo. It

basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full

featured

views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to

access

the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access

Yahoo

Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you

prefer.

Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way

they're

displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon

key to

access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either

"Full-Featured" or

"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the

screen

reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard

shortcut:


1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual

cursor;


c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows

simultaneously to

turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail

Version" then

press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic

radio

button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button

and

press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the

Settings

button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access

your Yahoo

Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of

getting to

the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile

Yahoo

Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then
they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have
for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five
at my disposal.

Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...






On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:


Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response
Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing
miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had
to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just
got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox,
as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get,
though.
Thanks boss.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to
work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had
with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to
yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very
uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as
soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind &
explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never
talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into
a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my
computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When
I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, &
explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, &
during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor
also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think
the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me
trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him
to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed
the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to
happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired
could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having
problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support. Well, I tried
from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your
input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm
in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about
his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew
so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these
years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really
know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a
bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so,
I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language
barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my
computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a
confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that
do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account
and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.
They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting
on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse
click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out

how to

solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my

password

etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can

only

enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if

you have a

'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.

However,

that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as

I didn't

see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the

free

signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the

'full

feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the

issue.


BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is

any

better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need

to run

Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife

& told

me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend

had

surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to

get any

more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have

any

success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox

for ages!

It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,

but at

your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of

doing it!

This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that

will allow

my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server

using POP3.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@.....io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in



Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do.. I'm trying to enable my Outlook

Express

using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings..
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but

the below

may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in

Yahoo. It

basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full

featured

views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to

access

the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access

Yahoo

Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you

prefer.

Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way

they're

displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon

key to

access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either

"Full-Featured" or

"Basic.." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the

screen

reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard

shortcut:


1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual

cursor;


c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows

simultaneously to

turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail

Version" then

press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic

radio

button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button

and

press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the

Settings

button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access

your Yahoo

Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of

getting to

the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile

Yahoo

Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: SodaStream usability

Mich Verrier
 

hi I to would like to know a ancer to this as well. from Mich.
 

From: Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] SodaStream usability
 

Hello list,

Was thinking of buying a SodaStream and was wondering if anyone’s used it and if there are any issues for a blind person when using it?

The wife and I are club soda/mineral water drinkers for the most part and while she’s sighted, I’d like to be able to operate it as well.

Thanks,


Re: New Yahoo Account

Carlos
 

Even outdated Outlook Express works this way. So does it's later incarnation Windows Mail.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


I'm pretty sure either outlook or thunderbird has it. If not, IOS and note takers.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:20 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yeah most notetakers do have that. But the Windows computers that I had I haven't found that functionality in those clients.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...



On Nov 24, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hello,
I have 6 accounts on the braille sense, and they all come into one inbox.. I think you can configure clients to use one inbox for everything.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five at my disposal.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising..ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...



On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:

Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.
Thanks boss.

<>
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com <http://pop.mail.yahoo.com/>
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com <http://smtp.mail.yahoo.com/>
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com <http://yayhoo.com/>.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Mike B.. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up. They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@... <mailto:mwb5781@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876 <https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@... <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out
how to
solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.

BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need
to run
Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend
had
surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have
any
success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@... <mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@... <mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in
Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@... <mailto:john.gm..gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of
getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five at my disposal.

Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising..ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
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Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...






On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:


Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.
Thanks boss.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up. They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out
how to
solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.

BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need
to run
Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend
had
surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have
any
success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in
Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings..
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
"Basic.." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:

1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;

c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of
getting to
the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Yeah most notetakers do have that. But the Windows computers that I had I haven't found that functionality in those clients.

Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...






On Nov 24, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:


Hello,
I have 6 accounts on the braille sense, and they all come into one inbox. I think you can configure clients to use one inbox for everything.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account




Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five at my disposal.
Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
groups
chat
http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org
blind apples
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind square GPS
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindsquaregps_cruising.ultragroups.com

blind handyman
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindhandyman_cruising.ultragroups.com

iPad help for the blind
https://groups.io/g/IPadhelpfortheblind

Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89
facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...




On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:

Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.
Thanks boss.

<>
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com <http://pop.mail.yahoo.com/>
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com <http://smtp.mail.yahoo.com/>
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com <http://yayhoo.com/>.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk..groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Mike B.. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up. They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@... <mailto:mwb5781@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876 <https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@... <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out

how to

solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my

password

etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can

only

enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if

you have a

'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.

However,

that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as

I didn't

see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the

free

signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the

'full

feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the

issue.


BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is

any

better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@.....io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need

to run

Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife

& told

me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend

had

surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to

get any

more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have

any

success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@... <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@.....io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox

for ages!

It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,

but at

your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of

doing it!

This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that

will allow

my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server

using POP3.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@... <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in



Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk..groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to enable my Outlook

Express

using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings.
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@... <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but

the below

may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in

Yahoo. It

basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full

featured

views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to

access

the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access

Yahoo

Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you

prefer.

Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way

they're

displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon

key to

access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either

"Full-Featured" or

"Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the

screen

reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard

shortcut:


1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual

cursor;


c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows

simultaneously to

turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail

Version" then

press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic

radio

button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button

and

press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the

Settings

button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access

your Yahoo

Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of

getting to

the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile

Yahoo

Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Hey, you know a good way to do that would be to get a Mac, and then they'll fall into all one inbox. That's what I'm using right now. I have for accounts configured on this Mac currently. And I have a total of five at my disposal.

Joseph Hudson
Group administrator for the following
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Email
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On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Kimsan <kimsansong@...> wrote:


Hahaha, I've been working on this since you last sent your response Carlos which says 7:18. I need a life don't I?
In any rate, after following googles instructions and yours failing miserably, I think the issue was not knowing which was on or off. It had to be blue, instead of gray?
So to clarify, I didn't fail miserably cause of your instructions, I just got the gray and blue backwards.
Now, my next project which is to have all the emails go into one inbox, as I have a buck load of email accounts lol.
I've done it before but not sure if outlook 2016 will play hard to get, though.
Thanks boss.


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Note that you still have to enable Yahoo POP access for these settings to work.

POP server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
POP port: 995
POP SSL/TLS: yes
POP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
POP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
SMTP server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP port: 465 (try 587 as an alternative if 465 yields errors)
SMTP SSL/TLS: yes
SMTP authentication: yes
SMTP username: your full Yahoo! Mail email address
SMTP password: your Yahoo! Mail password
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

I spoke to yahoo tech support this morning, and each conversation I had with them concerning what Mike was doing, they hung up on me lol.
They should be renamed to yayhoo.com.
Does anyone have info for the server info etc for pop or imap relating to yayhoo mail?

Thanks.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Pam,

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?! Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help. Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer. I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone. When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person. This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Dominguez
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip. Everybody has to call him to get the help! (as he puffs out his stomach) Pam.

From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen! I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support. Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck. Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,

Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo. It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole. LOL There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me. The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.

YAHOO


Hi Mike,

You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.


Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.

If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up. They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.

Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click? If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible. Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself. See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account



Hi Mike,

I was searching around the Internet to see if I could find out

how to

solve
this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my

password

etc,
and the only thing I could find is something which said you can

only

enable
pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if

you have a

'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.

However,

that
blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as

I didn't

see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the

free

signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the

'full

feature'
browser view to enable it in settings.

Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the

issue.


BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is

any

better
than IE.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it. You need

to run

Firefox. A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife

& told

me
that Firefox had to be used to get to that option. This friend

had

surgery
yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to

get any

more answers until he feels better. I'll let you know if I have

any

success
beforehand.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox

for ages!

It
says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,

but at

your
own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of

doing it!

This
is in your Account Security link.

If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that

will allow

my
Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server

using POP3.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@.....io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in



Outlook?

John.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi John,

Here's what I'm trying to do.. I'm trying to enable my Outlook

Express

using
POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.

Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
list of 5 items
In
Yahoo Mail,
mouse over the Settings icon | Click Settings..
Click Accounts.
Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.
Click Save.

Here's the problem. I've figured out how to get to settings /
accounts....,
but when I get here,
Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail

elsewhere" |

Select POP.

I'm not getting the POP option! Any suggestions?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,

Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but

the below

may help with your query.

The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in

Yahoo. It

basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full

featured

views,
but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to

access

the
new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.

There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access

Yahoo

Mail
Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you

prefer.

Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way

they're

displayed
and the number of commands and options you're presented with.

Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon

key to

access
the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either

"Full-Featured" or

"Basic.." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.

Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the

screen

reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard

shortcut:


1. Log into your Yahoo Mail account;

2. Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:

a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";

b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual

cursor;


c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows

simultaneously to

turn
Quick Nav off;

3. Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;

4. Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail

Version" then

press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic

radio

button;

5. Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button

and

press
the Enter key.

HTH

John.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On

Behalf

Of
Mike B.
Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi All,

I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the

Settings

button so I can click on Accounts. I need to find the, Access

your Yahoo

Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save. What is the best way of

getting to

the Settings button / link? Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile

Yahoo

Mail?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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