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Re: New Yahoo Account

Kimsan
 

Same here. I’m waiting until I am drunk to call yahoo tech support.

 

I have the email created, just need to fix the back-end.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 1:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Kimsan,

 

Because Charter, my ISP, keeps blocking my main email address as spam, so I'm trying a different approach.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:00 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Why go through all that for a yahoo email?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Pam,

 

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?!  Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help.  Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer.  I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone.  When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person.  This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip.  Everybody has to call him to get the help!  (as he puffs out his stomach)  Pam.

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi John,

 

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen!  I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.  Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck.  Thanks for your input.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,
 
Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo.  It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole.  LOL  There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me.  The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.
 
YAHOO 
 
 
Hi Mike,
 
You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.
 
 
Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.
 
If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.  They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.
 
Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click?  If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible.  Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself.  See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I was searching around the Internet to see if I could  find out
how to
>> solve
>> this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
>> etc,
>> and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
>> enable
>> pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
>> 'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
>> that
>> blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
>> see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
>> signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
>> feature'
>> browser view to enable it in settings.
>>
>> Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.
>>
>> BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
>> better
>> than IE.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need
to run
>> Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
>> me
>> that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend
had
>> surgery
>> yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
>> more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have
any
>> success
>> beforehand.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
>> It
>> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
>> your
>> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
>> This
>> is in your Account Security link.
>>
>> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
>> my
>> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in

>> Outlook?
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
>> using
>> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>>
>> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
>> list of 5 items
>> In
>> Yahoo Mail,
>> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
>> Click Accounts.
>> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>> Click Save.
>>
>> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
>> accounts....,
>> but when I get here,
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>>
>> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
>> may help with your query.
>>
>> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
>> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
>> views,
>> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
>> the
>> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>>
>> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
>> Mail
>> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
>> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
>> displayed
>> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>>
>> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
>> access
>> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
>> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>>
>> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
>> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:
>>
>> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>>
>> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>>
>> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>>
>> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;
>>
>> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
>> turn
>> Quick Nav off;
>>
>> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>>
>> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
>> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
>> button;
>>
>> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
>> press
>> the Enter key.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
>> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
>> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of
getting to
>> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
>> Mail?
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>









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Re: New Yahoo Account

Mike B. <MiBru9902@...>
 

Hi Kimsan,
 
Because Charter, my ISP, keeps blocking my main email address as spam, so I'm trying a different approach.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Why go through all that for a yahoo email?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Pam,

 

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?!  Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help.  Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer.  I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone.  When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person.  This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip.  Everybody has to call him to get the help!  (as he puffs out his stomach)  Pam.

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi John,

 

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen!  I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.  Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck.  Thanks for your input.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,
 
Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo.  It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole.  LOL  There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me.  The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.
 
YAHOO 
 
 
Hi Mike,
 
You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.
 
 
Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.
 
If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.  They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.
 
Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click?  If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible.  Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself.  See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I was searching around the Internet to see if I could  find out
how to
>> solve
>> this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
>> etc,
>> and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
>> enable
>> pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
>> 'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
>> that
>> blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
>> see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
>> signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
>> feature'
>> browser view to enable it in settings.
>>
>> Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.
>>
>> BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
>> better
>> than IE.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need
to run
>> Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
>> me
>> that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend
had
>> surgery
>> yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
>> more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have
any
>> success
>> beforehand.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
>> It
>> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
>> your
>> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
>> This
>> is in your Account Security link.
>>
>> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
>> my
>> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in

>> Outlook?
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
>> using
>> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>>
>> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
>> list of 5 items
>> In
>> Yahoo Mail,
>> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
>> Click Accounts.
>> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>> Click Save.
>>
>> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
>> accounts....,
>> but when I get here,
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>>
>> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
>> may help with your query.
>>
>> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
>> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
>> views,
>> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
>> the
>> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>>
>> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
>> Mail
>> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
>> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
>> displayed
>> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>>
>> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
>> access
>> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
>> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>>
>> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
>> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:
>>
>> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>>
>> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>>
>> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>>
>> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;
>>
>> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
>> turn
>> Quick Nav off;
>>
>> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>>
>> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
>> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
>> button;
>>
>> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
>> press
>> the Enter key.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
>> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
>> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of
getting to
>> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
>> Mail?
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>










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Cannot Invite People To A Facebook Page

Armando <armando.l.vias@...>
 

Hi. i need help Inviting people to a Facebook page. How do I do this. I followed the instructions. It doesn't work.

Sent from my iPhone 6s


Re: A Mackey Mixer Request

Lynn White
 

I found it. It is the 1402VLZ4. Thanks.

On 11/22/2016 9:16 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
do you happen to know what model you have?
mine is a 1202-vlz3 for example.

Simon


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn White" <lynnwhite360@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] A Mackey Mixer Request


To anyone who might have one of these mixers, could you send me a list
of the buttons and switches and plug ins.


Thanks in advance.








Re: A Mackey Mixer Request

Lynn White
 

I can probably find out. I just know that it's the 1402. Any idea where the model number would be on the mixer? Thanks.

On 11/22/2016 9:16 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
do you happen to know what model you have?
mine is a 1202-vlz3 for example.

Simon


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn White" <lynnwhite360@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] A Mackey Mixer Request


To anyone who might have one of these mixers, could you send me a list
of the buttons and switches and plug ins.


Thanks in advance.








Re: A Mackey Mixer Request

goshawk on horseback
 

do you happen to know what model you have?
mine is a 1202-vlz3 for example.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn White" <lynnwhite360@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] A Mackey Mixer Request


To anyone who might have one of these mixers, could you send me a list
of the buttons and switches and plug ins.


Thanks in advance.


A Mackey Mixer Request

Lynn White
 

To anyone who might have one of these mixers, could you send me a list of the buttons and switches and plug ins.


Thanks in advance.


Re: podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

Lenron
 

Wow I am not impressed apple has really went down hill. Jump the price
this year but still gave out a computer that has lame specks. With the
way they are going might not have my IPhone past next year. A computer
forget about it. I could buy a couple of nice computers for the price
of the one I would even consider buying.

On 11/21/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Most definitely.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL well sarcasm or not, the tactic unfortunately does seem to work for
Apple.

Unfortunately, yes.
I haven't used an Apple anything since the II E days in the late 80s. Back
then, they were a somewhat more respectable company, IMO.






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Re: CCleaner

Kimsan
 

Thank you.I

T was the second link I was looking for. Once more. Thank you.G

Ood night…

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] CCleaner

 

Standard installer; Includes promotional software.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard
Portable archive without installer; Does not include promotional software.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/portable
Slim installer; Does not include promotional software.  Note that update of the slim installer is often delayed by weeks.  Therefore when the standard installer is updated, this download link may not be available for long periods of time.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/slim

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:07 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] CCleaner

 

Hi,

I just completed searching through my emails. Carlos posted link(s) to download CCleaner, as the site is terrible to navigate lol.

There was one site for the program that he posted after clicking it, the download began.

Anyways, can someone post the download link for CCleaner?

Thanks.


Re: CCleaner

Carlos
 

Standard installer; Includes promotional software.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard
Portable archive without installer; Does not include promotional software.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/portable
Slim installer; Does not include promotional software.  Note that update of the slim installer is often delayed by weeks.  Therefore when the standard installer is updated, this download link may not be available for long periods of time.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/slim

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:07 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] CCleaner

Hi,

I just completed searching through my emails. Carlos posted link(s) to download CCleaner, as the site is terrible to navigate lol.

There was one site for the program that he posted after clicking it, the download began.

Anyways, can someone post the download link for CCleaner?

Thanks.


CCleaner

Kimsan
 

Hi,

I just completed searching through my emails. Carlos posted link(s) to download CCleaner, as the site is terrible to navigate lol.

There was one site for the program that he posted after clicking it, the download began.

Anyways, can someone post the download link for CCleaner?

Thanks.


Re: New Yahoo Account

Kimsan
 

Why go through all that for a yahoo email?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Pam,

 

Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?!  Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help.  Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer.  I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone.  When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person.  This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip.  Everybody has to call him to get the help!  (as he puffs out his stomach)  Pam.

 

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi John,

 

I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen!  I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.  Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck.  Thanks for your input.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: John Gregory

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

 

Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,
 
Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo.  It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole.  LOL  There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me.  The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.
 
YAHOO 
 
 
Hi Mike,
 
You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.
 
 
Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.
 
If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.  They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.
 
Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click?  If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible.  Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself.  See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I was searching around the Internet to see if I could  find out
how to
>> solve
>> this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
>> etc,
>> and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
>> enable
>> pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
>> 'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
>> that
>> blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
>> see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
>> signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
>> feature'
>> browser view to enable it in settings.
>>
>> Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.
>>
>> BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
>> better
>> than IE.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need
to run
>> Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
>> me
>> that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend
had
>> surgery
>> yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
>> more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have
any
>> success
>> beforehand.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
>> It
>> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
>> your
>> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
>> This
>> is in your Account Security link.
>>
>> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
>> my
>> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in

>> Outlook?
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
>> using
>> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>>
>> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
>> list of 5 items
>> In
>> Yahoo Mail,
>> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
>> Click Accounts.
>> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>> Click Save.
>>
>> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
>> accounts....,
>> but when I get here,
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>>
>> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
>> may help with your query.
>>
>> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
>> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
>> views,
>> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
>> the
>> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>>
>> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
>> Mail
>> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
>> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
>> displayed
>> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>>
>> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
>> access
>> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
>> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>>
>> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
>> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:
>>
>> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>>
>> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>>
>> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>>
>> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;
>>
>> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
>> turn
>> Quick Nav off;
>>
>> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>>
>> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
>> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
>> button;
>>
>> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
>> press
>> the Enter key.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
>> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
>> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of
getting to
>> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
>> Mail?
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>










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Re: podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

Carlos
 

Most definitely.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL well sarcasm or not, the tactic unfortunately does seem to work for
Apple.

Unfortunately, yes.
I haven't used an Apple anything since the II E days in the late 80s. Back then, they were a somewhat more respectable company, IMO.


Re: podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL well sarcasm or not, the tactic unfortunately does seem to work for
Apple.

Unfortunately, yes.
I haven't used an Apple anything since the II E days in the late 80s. Back then, they were a somewhat more respectable company, IMO.


Re: podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

Carlos
 

LOL well sarcasm or not, the tactic unfortunately does seem to work for Apple.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port


Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Yes, and people wonder why I'm not an Apple fan. They take proprietary to an entire new level and then on top of that have the nerve to over charge you for it.

But it just works!
Insert extremely sarcastic tone here.


Re: podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Yes, and people wonder why I'm not an Apple fan. They take proprietary to an entire new level and then on top of that have the nerve to over charge you for it.

But it just works!
Insert extremely sarcastic tone here.


Re: podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

Carlos
 


Yes, and people wonder why I'm not an Apple fan.  They take proprietary to an entire new level and then on top of that have the nerve to over charge you for it.

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

thats fucked up



On 11/21/2016 9:28 PM, Carlos wrote:
I didn't realize that even the battery in these machines is not replaceable.  It's bad enough that they're not upgradeable in general, but I can't imagine paying nearly $2000 for a laptop which doesn't even have a replaceable battery.  And apparently, the non-replaceable battery is part of what makes them unsafe to recycle.  The amount of adhesive they use to glue the batteries into place makes them more difficult to remove before recycling.  They're saying it takes too long to pry them out safely relative to the economic value of the metal in the machine.  So if they miss one by mistake, they will sometimes catch on fire when they put them through the shredder.  Great job Apple.  LOL they also rated these things a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10 when it comes to repairability.  Since most of the parts are either soldered on to the motherboard or deeply integrated into the case, almost anything that breaks could mean having to replace the entire machine.


Re: podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

 

thats fucked up



On 11/21/2016 9:28 PM, Carlos wrote:
I didn't realize that even the battery in these machines is not replaceable.  It's bad enough that they're not upgradeable in general, but I can't imagine paying nearly $2000 for a laptop which doesn't even have a replaceable battery.  And apparently, the non-replaceable battery is part of what makes them unsafe to recycle.  The amount of adhesive they use to glue the batteries into place makes them more difficult to remove before recycling.  They're saying it takes too long to pry them out safely relative to the economic value of the metal in the machine.  So if they miss one by mistake, they will sometimes catch on fire when they put them through the shredder.  Great job Apple.  LOL they also rated these things a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10 when it comes to repairability.  Since most of the parts are either soldered on to the motherboard or deeply integrated into the case, almost anything that breaks could mean having to replace the entire machine.


Re: podcast from the New Screen savers with Leo LA port

Carlos
 

I didn't realize that even the battery in these machines is not replaceable.  It's bad enough that they're not upgradeable in general, but I can't imagine paying nearly $2000 for a laptop which doesn't even have a replaceable battery.  And apparently, the non-replaceable battery is part of what makes them unsafe to recycle.  The amount of adhesive they use to glue the batteries into place makes them more difficult to remove before recycling.  They're saying it takes too long to pry them out safely relative to the economic value of the metal in the machine.  So if they miss one by mistake, they will sometimes catch on fire when they put them through the shredder.  Great job Apple.  LOL they also rated these things a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10 when it comes to repairability.  Since most of the parts are either soldered on to the motherboard or deeply integrated into the case, almost anything that breaks could mean having to replace the entire machine.


Re: New Yahoo Account

Mike B. <MiBru9902@...>
 

Hi Pam,
 
Have you ever talked to someone & got the feeling that they were very uncomfortable talking to a blind person?!  Well, I got this feeling as soon as I told the 1st dude that answered the phone that I was blind & explained why I needed their help.  Dude #1 told me that he has never talked to a blind person that used a computer.  I'm not going to go into a blow by blow, but after I showed dude #1 that the problem wasn't on my computer, he couldn't help me, so he got a supervisor on the phone.  When I showed the supervisor my Outlook Express Yahoo properties settings, & explained what I needed, he knew exactly what I was wanting from them, & during this exchange I also got a very strong feeling that the supervisor also felt uncomfortable talking to a blind person.  This is why I think the supervisor didn't want to spend any extra time on the phone with me trying to explain how / what he had done.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

That guy sounded like he was on a power trip.  Everybody has to call him to get the help!  (as he puffs out his stomach)  Pam.
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
 
Hi John,
 
I tried very hard to get the supervisor to tell me exactly how he changed the necessary setting, but as hard as I tried, it just wasn't going to happen!  I trried explaining to him that many blind / visually impaired could benefit from his knowledge, but he just said to have anyone having problems on the Yahoo website, call Yahoo tech support.  Well, I tried from a couple of other angles, but again, no such luck.  Thanks for your input.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
 
Hi Mike,

It's great to hear that you have resolved the problem. Pity they are not
more tech aware. So, I take it from your message that there is nothing we
can do to resolve the problem ourselves and have to ring Yahoo CS? As I'm in
the UK the phone number doesn't help, but I'm not that interested in the
Yahoo account anyway.

As for the CS that didn't believe you were actually blind and using a
computer, I can tell a similar story about an Ebay seller who actually
blocked me from buying from him because I asked too many questions about his
computer product and he didn't believe that I was totally blind and knew so
much about computers! He didn't want me to leave negative feedback, so he
blocked me - should have more confidence in his items! After all these years
I'm still surprised at the ignorance of certain people - should really know
better I guess.

Take care.

John.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: 18 November 2016 19:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos & John,
 
Well, I had a low vision friend try to find the POP setting without any
luck, so he gave me the tech support phone number for Yahoo.  It was a bitch
at 1st because the dude didn't believe I was blind & using a computer so, I
had to prove it to the A'Hole.  LOL  There was a bit of a language barrier,
but we managed to get around that to the point of, them having to get a
supervisor on the phone with me.  The 1st dude had logged onto my computer &
when the supervisor got on with me he was able to understand the setting
that needed to be changed, & here's the message they sent, as a confirmation
of sorts I guess.
 
YAHOO 
 
 
Hi Mike,
 
You just allowed apps that may use a less secure sign-in method to access
your Yahoo account mibru9902. This change allows email applications that do
not meet Yahoo's recommended security standards to access your account and
may leave your account more vulnerable to security risks.
 
 
Okay,my new email is now working, & here's their tech support phone #:
1-800-385-4304,
if anyone happens to need it.
 
If anyone has to call them regarding this same problem be prepared to
explain many times that the setting that needs to be changed is on their
server, & not on your computer if you already have the account set-up.  They
didn't believe that the setting was on their server until I showed them I
had the account on the computer configured correctly, & that the setting on
the server had to be activated so the server & my email client could
communicate.
 
Oh well, everything is good now.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Mike,
Generally when you are asked to click something and the type of mouse click
is not specified, a single left click should be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mwb5781@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

Hi Carlos,

In the instructions given from the link you posted, it says,
Click Edit next to the desired Yahoo! Mail address under Yahoo
account.
Is clicking edit a right mouse click?  If not, what would it be?
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account

also, finding instructions for enabling it was not difficult, but
the
impression I am getting is that the procedure may simply not be very

accessible.  Although as I said I do not currently have a Yahoo
account so I
have not had the opportunity to test this myself.  See the following

article.
https://www.lifewire.com/access-yahoo-mail-account-via-pop-1170876
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account


> Yahoo is offering free POP access again now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Gregory" <john.gm.gregory@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I was searching around the Internet to see if I could  find out
how to
>> solve
>> this problem, I too am getting the pop up dialog asking for my
password
>> etc,
>> and the only thing I could find is something which said you can
only
>> enable
>> pop messaging to download to Outlook or other email clients if
you have a
>> 'paid' account, otherwise the 'free' account only uses imap.
However,
>> that
>> blog was from 2013 and I don't know if that is still the case as
I didn't
>> see anything on Yahoo website to indicate paid or free, only the
free
>> signup. It also said that to enable pop you had to be in the
'full
>> feature'
>> browser view to enable it in settings.
>>
>> Will do some more investigative work and see if I can resolve the
issue.
>>
>> BTW, thanks for the Firefox tip, I'll try that and see if it is
any
>> better
>> than IE.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 18 November 2016 01:57
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> If you're running Internet Explorer you won't find it.  You need
to run
>> Firefox.  A friend of mine got a Yahoo account going for my wife
& told
>> me
>> that Firefox had to be used to get to that option.  This friend
had
>> surgery
>> yesterday & won't be available fora while so, I won't be able to
get any
>> more answers until he feels better.  I'll let you know if I have
any
>> success
>> beforehand.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, know what you mean, I have been looking for that checkbox
for ages!
>> It
>> says you can allow less secure 3rd party clients if you so wish,
but at
>> your
>> own risk. However, it doesn't appear to provide the means of
doing it!
>> This
>> is in your Account Security link.
>>
>> If you find it, let me know and I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 23:11
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have the settings, but I just need to access an option that
will allow
>> my
>> Outlook Express client to receive email from the Yahoo server
using POP3.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it the pop settings you want in order to set up the account in

>> Outlook?
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 21:36
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to enable my Outlook
Express
>> using
>> POP3 to get the mail from Yahoo following the steps below.
>>
>> Step 1: Enable Yahoo Mail for POP access
>> list of 5 items
>> In
>> Yahoo Mail,
>> mouse over the Settings icon  | Click Settings.
>> Click Accounts.
>> Under Email addresses, click on your Yahoo account name.
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>> Click Save.
>>
>> Here's the problem.  I've figured out how to get to settings /
>> accounts....,
>> but when I get here,
>> Go to the bottom of the page under "Access your Yahoo Mail
elsewhere" |
>> Select POP.
>>
>> I'm not getting the POP option!  Any suggestions?
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Gregory <mailto:john.gm.gregory@...>
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Cannot vouch for the accessibility of the Yahoo email site, but
the below
>> may help with your query.
>>
>> The following should help you obtain the 'settings' menu in
Yahoo. It
>> basically tells you how to switch between the basic and full
featured
>> views,
>> but read the 'adjust your screen reader' section to learn how to
access
>> the
>> new shortcut key (;) for the 'settings' menu.
>>
>> There's a handy new keyboard shortcut, the semicolon, to access
Yahoo
>> Mail
>> Settings so you can choose the view (basic or full featured) you
prefer.
>> Switching doesn't affect your email messages, only the way
they're
>> displayed
>> and the number of commands and options you're presented with.
>>
>> Just log into Yahoo Mail as you always do, press the semicolon
key to
>> access
>> the Mail Settings, choose "Mail Version," then either
"Full-Featured" or
>> "Basic." Repeat the same steps to switch back at any time.
>>
>> Screen reader users should follow the steps below to prevent the
screen
>> reader from intercepting the Yahoo Mail Settings keyboard
shortcut:
>>
>> 1.    Log into your Yahoo Mail account;
>>
>> 2.    Adjust your Screen Reader as necessary:
>>
>> a. Using NVDA, press Insert-Spacebar to enter "focus" mode";
>>
>> b. Using JAWS, press Insert-Z to turn off the JAWS virtual
cursor;
>>
>> c. Using VoiceOver, press the left and right arrows
simultaneously to
>> turn
>> Quick Nav off;
>>
>> 3.    Press semicolon to access Yahoo Mail Settings;
>>
>> 4.    Press the Tab key several times until you hear "Mail
Version" then
>> press the Down arrow key to check (select) Full-Featured or Basic
radio
>> button;
>>
>> 5.    Press the Tab key several times to move to the Save button
and
>> press
>> the Enter key.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
>> Of
>> Mike B.
>> Sent: 17 November 2016 19:06
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>> Subject: [TechTalk] New Yahoo Account
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just created a new Yahoo email account, but I can't find the
Settings
>> button so I can click on Accounts.  I need to find the, Access
your Yahoo
>> Mail elsewhere, & Select POP, & save.  What is the best way of
getting to
>> the Settings button / link?  Should I use Yahoo Maill or Mobile
Yahoo
>> Mail?
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>
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