Date   

Re: correct address for an email list

Kay Malmquist
 

Thanks Mike,
You've got everything in there.  Take care.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] correct address for an email list

Hi Kay,
 
Here you go:
 
To post:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Alternate posting email addresses:
 
 
 

Group Website:
 
 
Topics archive:
 
 
* Forum wiki (publicly viewable):
 
 
* Forum wiki (publicly viewable):
https://winaccess.groups.io/g/winaccess/wiki
* Archive search:
 
 
 
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 9:10 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] correct address for an email list

I don't remember who it was, or on which list, but yesterday someone mentioned a list and sent a subscribe link.  It came back as undeliverable.  This is the link that was given.
 
 
Does anyone know the correct link?  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: correct address for an email list

Mike B.
 

Hi Kay,
 
Here you go:
 
To post:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Alternate posting email addresses:
 
 
 

Group Website:
 
 
Topics archive:
 
 
* Forum wiki (publicly viewable):
 
 
* Forum wiki (publicly viewable):
https://winaccess.groups.io/g/winaccess/wiki
* Archive search:
 
 
 
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 9:10 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] correct address for an email list

I don't remember who it was, or on which list, but yesterday someone mentioned a list and sent a subscribe link.  It came back as undeliverable.  This is the link that was given.
 
 
Does anyone know the correct link?  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: A serious computer problem

Jim Rawls
 

Ignore002E

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, Kay, if that’s a windows 7 machine, it’s most likely a 32-bit machine.  You won’t need the 64-bit driver for dectalk unless you’re going to get a windows ten machine.  If you’re on windows ten, it’s most likely 64-bit windows ten as most machines produced in the last several years are now 64-bit operating systems.  If you’re on windows ten, I’ll be happy to show you how to find out whether your system is 64-bit.  Always glad to assist you, have a great day!  BZ!   

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: A serious computer problem

John Holcomb II
 

Hey man yeah true… Like those in 2009 and even later especially the more consumer grade cheaper hardwhere.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, John, point well taken though lots of the earlier windows 7 machines were still 32-bit though that certainly started to change over the last several years.  BZ!

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hold up. I’ve gotten systems that are 64-bit with Windows 7 so don’t assume its 32-bit.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, Kay, if that’s a windows 7 machine, it’s most likely a 32-bit machine.  You won’t need the 64-bit driver for dectalk unless you’re going to get a windows ten machine.  If you’re on windows ten, it’s most likely 64-bit windows ten as most machines produced in the last several years are now 64-bit operating systems.  If you’re on windows ten, I’ll be happy to show you how to find out whether your system is 64-bit.  Always glad to assist you, have a great day!  BZ!   

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: A serious computer problem

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, John, point well taken though lots of the earlier windows 7 machines were still 32-bit though that certainly started to change over the last several years.  BZ!

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hold up. I’ve gotten systems that are 64-bit with Windows 7 so don’t assume its 32-bit.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, Kay, if that’s a windows 7 machine, it’s most likely a 32-bit machine.  You won’t need the 64-bit driver for dectalk unless you’re going to get a windows ten machine.  If you’re on windows ten, it’s most likely 64-bit windows ten as most machines produced in the last several years are now 64-bit operating systems.  If you’re on windows ten, I’ll be happy to show you how to find out whether your system is 64-bit.  Always glad to assist you, have a great day!  BZ!   

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: my new horse puckies computer

Carolyn Arnold
 

Mine is from 2015, but it has 1 TB.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my new horse puckies computer

Not so fast.

I’ve got a computer that is from 2011 that works good on Windows 10 so it still might be worth figuring it out.

John





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my new horse puckies computer



No, I've not contacted anybody. I downloaded a program that created a boot cd that was supposed to give me the option of not having a password. However, of course, this boot cd does not talk. So the computer is set aside until I get some geek to help me with it. But it's already obsolete at five years old. I think I waisted my money; but it's my own fault.



On 9/21/2021 11:19 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Have e you contacted MS about your PW issue?

John





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my new horse puckies computer



Yah, I bought an Asus computer five years ago and still don't have it working. I made the mistake of putting in a password for startup then can't remember it. So, I bought a couple of the HPs from Kevin who sells on one of these lists. Would like to get the Asus running but don't know how to get past that password thing.

Howard

On 9/21/2021 2:58 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Yeah but Lenovo still has some stuff that just duplicates what Windows already haz.

Its not as bad as some others though.

I’ve not used ASUS built computers and didn’t know they built them themselves.

I’ve got one that I had custom built but didn’t know they made them to.

John



Sent from my iPod






On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:51 PM, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> <mailto:valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi.



Yes, it is better for some of the other big name brands. for instance, Lenovo doesn't usually stick you with third party antimalware, their stuff is generally just stock windows. Asus is similar.





On 9/20/2021 4:34 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Note, this is just a grind about my new p c experience, delete at will.



Yes Friends, I lied………………………………………………

A few short months ago I said I would not get a new p c for win11.

Well, I did get a new pc but not just for win11, I just had an urgeto buy that did not go away even after a few sleeps.

It is an hp pavilion tp01-1009 desktop.

It is fairly low down on the scale of the latest and greatest.

It has win 10 home,

A s s d 500 gig drive,

8 gig ddr4 2660 mhz ram,

A core i5 10th gen processor and all the usual onboard audio, video, network, wifi and Bluetooth with a standard array of usb ports.

Yes, it is a fairly compact and quiet tower.

This is the first new brandname computer I have owned in about 25 years.

Normally, I just have one put together from brand name parts at a localshop; but in the last while, the price of parts has been increasing so a brand name box looked like a good choice.

The hp keyboard has 4 keys to the left of the spacebar, which I did not realize at the time and I was unable to get it narrating right out of the box.

So far, I give h p support a big freakin fat 0.

I got a frien to help me set it up and that was a trip in itself.

I already have a windows account, but between all the hoops and hurdles I had to go through and over before reaching the desktop, I felt like Jobe in the midst of the tribulations.

It took 15 20 minutes to get to the desktop with all the preliminary mumbo jumbo and I still don’t know if I have offered my firstborn and soul to the devillllllll.

…and then there was all that free crap to get rid of like, mcaffee, virtual v p n, office 365 trial, office trial, and a whole truck load of h p “services.



A standard installation of m s win10 home is about 30 gigs. After removing all that garbage, I am still using 50 gig on a brand new machine.



Even though I thought I got rid of mcaffee, they still insist on sending me email… insidious bastards.



The only thing I kept was the 100 gig dropbox account free for a year.



I doubt the first time out of the box experience for the other big name brands is much better.



More later, I’m sure!

Cheers,



Mont

--
cheers:
Aaron Spears AKA Valiant8086 - General Partner Valiant Galaxy Associates. "We make *very good audiogames* for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com


Re: A serious computer problem

John Holcomb II
 

Hold up. I’ve gotten systems that are 64-bit with Windows 7 so don’t assume its 32-bit.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, Kay, if that’s a windows 7 machine, it’s most likely a 32-bit machine.  You won’t need the 64-bit driver for dectalk unless you’re going to get a windows ten machine.  If you’re on windows ten, it’s most likely 64-bit windows ten as most machines produced in the last several years are now 64-bit operating systems.  If you’re on windows ten, I’ll be happy to show you how to find out whether your system is 64-bit.  Always glad to assist you, have a great day!  BZ!   

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: A serious computer problem

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, Kay, if that’s a windows 7 machine, it’s most likely a 32-bit machine.  You won’t need the 64-bit driver for dectalk unless you’re going to get a windows ten machine.  If you’re on windows ten, it’s most likely 64-bit windows ten as most machines produced in the last several years are now 64-bit operating systems.  If you’re on windows ten, I’ll be happy to show you how to find out whether your system is 64-bit.  Always glad to assist you, have a great day!  BZ!   

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: A serious computer problem

Kay Malmquist
 

Nope windows 7.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

SO the one you want to know if its 32 or 64-bit. Does it have Windows 10 on it?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: my new horse puckies computer

John Holcomb II
 

Not so fast.

I’ve got a computer that is from 2011 that works good on Windows 10 so it still might be worth figuring it out.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my new horse puckies computer

 

No, I've not contacted anybody.  I downloaded a program that created a boot cd that was supposed to give me the option of not having a password.  However, of course, this boot cd does not talk.  So the computer is set aside until I get some geek to help me with it.  But it's already obsolete at five years old.  I think I waisted my money; but it's my own fault.

On 9/21/2021 11:19 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Have e you contacted MS  about your PW issue?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my new horse puckies computer

 

Yah, I bought an Asus computer five years ago and still don't have it working.  I made the mistake of putting in a password for startup then can't remember it.  So, I bought a couple of the HPs from Kevin who sells on one of these lists.  Would like to get the Asus running but don't know how to get past that password thing.

Howard

On 9/21/2021 2:58 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Yeah but Lenovo still has some stuff that just duplicates what Windows already haz.

Its not as bad as some others though.

I’ve not used ASUS built computers and didn’t know they built them themselves.

I’ve got one that I had custom built but didn’t know they made them to.

John

 

Sent from my iPod




On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:51 PM, valiant8086 <valiant8086@...> wrote:



Hi.

 

Yes, it is better for some of the other big name brands. for instance, Lenovo doesn't usually stick you with third party antimalware, their stuff is generally just stock windows. Asus is similar.

 

 

On 9/20/2021 4:34 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Note, this is just a grind about my new p c experience, delete at will.

 

Yes Friends,  I lied………………………………………………

A few short months ago I said I would not get a new p c for win11.

Well, I did get a new pc  but not just for win11,  I just had an urgeto buy that did not go away  even after a few sleeps.

It is  an hp pavilion tp01-1009 desktop.

It is fairly low down on the  scale of the latest and greatest.

It has win 10 home,

A s s d 500 gig drive,

8 gig ddr4 2660 mhz ram,

A core i5 10th gen processor and all the usual onboard audio, video, network, wifi and Bluetooth with a standard array of usb ports.

Yes, it is a fairly compact and quiet tower.

This is the first                            new brandname   computer I have owned in about   25 years.

Normally,  I just have one put together from brand name parts  at a localshop;  but in the last while, the price of parts has  been increasing so a brand name box looked like a good choice.

The hp keyboard has 4 keys to the left of the spacebar,  which I did not realize at the time and I was unable to get it narrating right out of the box.

So far, I give h p  support a big freakin fat  0.

I got a frien to help me set it up and that was a trip in itself.

I already have a windows account,  but between all the hoops and hurdles I had to go through and over before reaching the desktop,  I felt like Jobe  in the midst of the tribulations.

It took  15 20 minutes to get to the desktop with all the preliminary mumbo jumbo  and I still don’t know if I have offered my firstborn and soul to the devillllllll.

…and then there was all that free crap to get rid of like, mcaffee,  virtual v p n,  office 365 trial,  office trial,  and a whole truck load of h p “services.

 

A standard installation of m s win10 home is about 30 gigs.  After removing all that garbage, I am still using 50 gig on a brand new machine.

 

Even though I thought I got rid of mcaffee,  they still insist on sending me email…  insidious bastards.

 

The only thing I kept was the 100 gig dropbox account free for a year.

 

I doubt the first time out of the box experience for the other big name brands  is much better.

 

More later, I’m sure!

Cheers,

 

Mont

-- 
cheers:
Aaron Spears AKA Valiant8086 - General Partner Valiant Galaxy Associates. "We make *very good audiogames* for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com

 

 


Re: my new horse puckies computer

Howard Traxler
 

No, I've not contacted anybody.  I downloaded a program that created a boot cd that was supposed to give me the option of not having a password.  However, of course, this boot cd does not talk.  So the computer is set aside until I get some geek to help me with it.  But it's already obsolete at five years old.  I think I waisted my money; but it's my own fault.


On 9/21/2021 11:19 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Have e you contacted MS  about your PW issue?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my new horse puckies computer

 

Yah, I bought an Asus computer five years ago and still don't have it working.  I made the mistake of putting in a password for startup then can't remember it.  So, I bought a couple of the HPs from Kevin who sells on one of these lists.  Would like to get the Asus running but don't know how to get past that password thing.

Howard

On 9/21/2021 2:58 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Yeah but Lenovo still has some stuff that just duplicates what Windows already haz.

Its not as bad as some others though.

I’ve not used ASUS built computers and didn’t know they built them themselves.

I’ve got one that I had custom built but didn’t know they made them to.

John

 

Sent from my iPod



On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:51 PM, valiant8086 <valiant8086@...> wrote:



Hi.

 

Yes, it is better for some of the other big name brands. for instance, Lenovo doesn't usually stick you with third party antimalware, their stuff is generally just stock windows. Asus is similar.

 

 

On 9/20/2021 4:34 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Note, this is just a grind about my new p c experience, delete at will.

 

Yes Friends,  I lied………………………………………………

A few short months ago I said I would not get a new p c for win11.

Well, I did get a new pc  but not just for win11,  I just had an urgeto buy that did not go away  even after a few sleeps.

It is  an hp pavilion tp01-1009 desktop.

It is fairly low down on the  scale of the latest and greatest.

It has win 10 home,

A s s d 500 gig drive,

8 gig ddr4 2660 mhz ram,

A core i5 10th gen processor and all the usual onboard audio, video, network, wifi and Bluetooth with a standard array of usb ports.

Yes, it is a fairly compact and quiet tower.

This is the first                            new brandname   computer I have owned in about   25 years.

Normally,  I just have one put together from brand name parts  at a localshop;  but in the last while, the price of parts has  been increasing so a brand name box looked like a good choice.

The hp keyboard has 4 keys to the left of the spacebar,  which I did not realize at the time and I was unable to get it narrating right out of the box.

So far, I give h p  support a big freakin fat  0.

I got a frien to help me set it up and that was a trip in itself.

I already have a windows account,  but between all the hoops and hurdles I had to go through and over before reaching the desktop,  I felt like Jobe  in the midst of the tribulations.

It took  15 20 minutes to get to the desktop with all the preliminary mumbo jumbo  and I still don’t know if I have offered my firstborn and soul to the devillllllll.

…and then there was all that free crap to get rid of like, mcaffee,  virtual v p n,  office 365 trial,  office trial,  and a whole truck load of h p “services.

 

A standard installation of m s win10 home is about 30 gigs.  After removing all that garbage, I am still using 50 gig on a brand new machine.

 

Even though I thought I got rid of mcaffee,  they still insist on sending me email…  insidious bastards.

 

The only thing I kept was the 100 gig dropbox account free for a year.

 

I doubt the first time out of the box experience for the other big name brands  is much better.

 

More later, I’m sure!

Cheers,

 

Mont

-- 
cheers:
Aaron Spears AKA Valiant8086 - General Partner Valiant Galaxy Associates. "We make *very good audiogames* for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com

 



Re: A serious computer problem

John Holcomb II
 

SO the one you want to know if its 32 or 64-bit. Does it have Windows 10 on it?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: A serious computer problem

Kay Malmquist
 

Thanks for this.  I currently have it running on my Windows 7 Machine.  I am not sure if it is 32 or 64.  How can I figure this out?  I doubt it is a 64 bit machine though, so will have to grab that driver.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: How Accessible Pharmacies Cater to the Special Needs of the Blind and Those With Impaired Vision

Holly
 

John and All:
 
Here is a link telling you all about the Script talk device and how to get it.
 


Re: A serious computer problem

Gerald Levy
 


The correct address is:


winaccess+subscribe@winaccess.groups.io


Gerald




On 9/21/2021 12:17 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:
So the subscribe address is what now ?
Thanks,
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

They changed the name to winaccess but it's still on groups.io


On 9/20/2021 11:04 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi John,
I just tried to subscribe and got an error message saying that this group doesn't exist, just thought I'd let everyone know.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: September 20, 2021 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

There's also a windows 10 list out there which is very high traffic too.
That could help you too.
win10+subscribe@win10.groups.io
John
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

As my husband says, we just have to learn new ways to do old things.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 3:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

I haven’t used Windows 10 but I know two people who take time to learn major changes.  When they transitioned from Windows 7 to Windows 10, neither one complained to me about having difficulties learning major changes.  I’m not saying there is nothing to learn, but as I found in the transition from XP to Windows 7, I expect that once you learn a small number of things, you will find that you can do a lot in the same or similar ways as you did before and that learning a little about this or that change may help a great deal.
  
For example, if you are used to opening the run dialog by pressing and releasing the Windows key in XP, in Windows 7 and Windows 10, if you hold the Windows key and type r, the same run dialog will open.  But, different than XP, if  you press and release the Windows key in Windows 7 and 10, the start menu will open.
  
Others may want to comment, but I strongly suspect that after you learn some differences, you will find a lot to be the same or similar.
  
You may have more choices in how you do some things, the old way or a very similar way to the old way, and one or more new ways.
  
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II <mailto:jhii926@...>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem
  

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

  

  

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

  

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@... <mailto:kay.malmquist@...>

  

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

	----- Original Message -----

	From: John Holcomb II <mailto:jhii926@...>

	To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

	Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

	Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

	

	So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

	From there it will auto announce the results .

	Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

	This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

	Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

	There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

	I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

	I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

	Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

	Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

	Having said that I’ll help how I can.

	John

	

	From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
	Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
	To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> >
	Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

	

	Hi all,

	Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks.

	

	What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this.

	
	Kay Malmquist
	kay.malmquist@... <mailto:kay.malmquist@...>

	

	"Where focus goes, energy flows."
	Bob Proctor

































Re: How Accessible Pharmacies Cater to the Special Needs of the Blind and Those With Impaired Vision

John Holcomb II
 

I only have 3 and the pills feel different so have never felt a need for accessible anything.

If there would b a  use case as far as tech for this perpise in my case what could it be?

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How Accessible Pharmacies Cater to the Special Needs of the Blind and Those With Impaired Vision

 

I have been using script talk for about six months now.  Luckily, my husband’s prescriptions come from Express Scripts, which offer the talking labels.

 

 


Re: A serious computer problem

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, folks, the dectalk usb from axis solutions will work with windows ten.  There is a 64-bit driver for the dectalk usb.  Go to axsol.com and go to the contact link and there’s a phone number that you can call and they will e-mail you the driver in a zip file.  Have a great day!  Brian Zolo

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 12:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

I’m not sure the hardware desktalk will work with Windows 10.

That is h hardware is it not?

Outlook (the one from Office365) works pretty good for me at least.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

John,

Yes, I think it does.  I'll refer back to this and check out the things you suggested.  I have outlook on this new machine, but would really rather use Outlook Express.  I know there are two versions currently out there and neither one is the true program but one is still working.  I think I want to try that out.  I also want to put my DecTalk express USB on there as well, because I still prefer Paul to any other voices.  People say I am nuts because Eloquence is great.  Even when I was training, I was so happy to get back to my computer and its voice. 

 

But again, thanks.  I really do appreciate you reaching out and helping.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something  like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need  done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the  start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in  addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2  billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people  (some of which have been using  Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again  you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi John,

Thanks for your input.  I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it.  I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10.  Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it.  I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it.  Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

So once you hit the windows key and  start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of  the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what  programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech  installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: TechTalk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

 

Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one.  You might say that the computer problem is me.  At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge.  I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and  adaptive technology.  I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge.  I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech.  I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together.  This is the machine that I am writing on right now.  It was built in 2004 and still flies.  All parts are industrial grade and you can tell.  This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement.   I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it.  In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them.  I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out.  I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it.  Now we come to the problem.  A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it.  I am so frustrated with it.  I just don't understand 10.  I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more.  I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what?  I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing.  Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks. 

 

What I really need is someone to help me learn everything.  Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there.  If I know something, we can move on.  I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do.  I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn.  If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know?  I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do.  I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way.  Thanks for any help with this. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


Re: my new horse puckies computer

John Holcomb II
 

Have e you contacted MS  about your PW issue?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] my new horse puckies computer

 

Yah, I bought an Asus computer five years ago and still don't have it working.  I made the mistake of putting in a password for startup then can't remember it.  So, I bought a couple of the HPs from Kevin who sells on one of these lists.  Would like to get the Asus running but don't know how to get past that password thing.

Howard

On 9/21/2021 2:58 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Yeah but Lenovo still has some stuff that just duplicates what Windows already haz.

Its not as bad as some others though.

I’ve not used ASUS built computers and didn’t know they built them themselves.

I’ve got one that I had custom built but didn’t know they made them to.

John

 

Sent from my iPod



On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:51 PM, valiant8086 <valiant8086@...> wrote:



Hi.

 

Yes, it is better for some of the other big name brands. for instance, Lenovo doesn't usually stick you with third party antimalware, their stuff is generally just stock windows. Asus is similar.

 

 

On 9/20/2021 4:34 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Note, this is just a grind about my new p c experience, delete at will.

 

Yes Friends,  I lied………………………………………………

A few short months ago I said I would not get a new p c for win11.

Well, I did get a new pc  but not just for win11,  I just had an urgeto buy that did not go away  even after a few sleeps.

It is  an hp pavilion tp01-1009 desktop.

It is fairly low down on the  scale of the latest and greatest.

It has win 10 home,

A s s d 500 gig drive,

8 gig ddr4 2660 mhz ram,

A core i5 10th gen processor and all the usual onboard audio, video, network, wifi and Bluetooth with a standard array of usb ports.

Yes, it is a fairly compact and quiet tower.

This is the first                            new brandname   computer I have owned in about   25 years.

Normally,  I just have one put together from brand name parts  at a localshop;  but in the last while, the price of parts has  been increasing so a brand name box looked like a good choice.

The hp keyboard has 4 keys to the left of the spacebar,  which I did not realize at the time and I was unable to get it narrating right out of the box.

So far, I give h p  support a big freakin fat  0.

I got a frien to help me set it up and that was a trip in itself.

I already have a windows account,  but between all the hoops and hurdles I had to go through and over before reaching the desktop,  I felt like Jobe  in the midst of the tribulations.

It took  15 20 minutes to get to the desktop with all the preliminary mumbo jumbo  and I still don’t know if I have offered my firstborn and soul to the devillllllll.

…and then there was all that free crap to get rid of like, mcaffee,  virtual v p n,  office 365 trial,  office trial,  and a whole truck load of h p “services.

 

A standard installation of m s win10 home is about 30 gigs.  After removing all that garbage, I am still using 50 gig on a brand new machine.

 

Even though I thought I got rid of mcaffee,  they still insist on sending me email…  insidious bastards.

 

The only thing I kept was the 100 gig dropbox account free for a year.

 

I doubt the first time out of the box experience for the other big name brands  is much better.

 

More later, I’m sure!

Cheers,

 

Mont

-- 
cheers:
Aaron Spears AKA Valiant8086 - General Partner Valiant Galaxy Associates. "We make *very good audiogames* for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com

 


Re: A serious computer problem

John Holcomb II
 

So the subscribe address is what now ?
Thanks,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

They changed the name to winaccess but it's still on groups.io


On 9/20/2021 11:04 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi John,
I just tried to subscribe and got an error message saying that this group doesn't exist, just thought I'd let everyone know.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: September 20, 2021 8:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

There's also a windows 10 list out there which is very high traffic too.
That could help you too.
win10+subscribe@win10.groups.io
John
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

As my husband says, we just have to learn new ways to do old things.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 3:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A serious computer problem

I haven’t used Windows 10 but I know two people who take time to learn major changes. When they transitioned from Windows 7 to Windows 10, neither one complained to me about having difficulties learning major changes. I’m not saying there is nothing to learn, but as I found in the transition from XP to Windows 7, I expect that once you learn a small number of things, you will find that you can do a lot in the same or similar ways as you did before and that learning a little about this or that change may help a great deal.

For example, if you are used to opening the run dialog by pressing and releasing the Windows key in XP, in Windows 7 and Windows 10, if you hold the Windows key and type r, the same run dialog will open. But, different than XP, if you press and release the Windows key in Windows 7 and 10, the start menu will open.

Others may want to comment, but I strongly suspect that after you learn some differences, you will find a lot to be the same or similar.

You may have more choices in how you do some things, the old way or a very similar way to the old way, and one or more new ways.

Gene
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You’re welcome Kay.

So ok think of the windows 10 notifications as something like the iOS notification center.

Think of the Windows store as something like the app store.

The only difference is that you’ll be using tab , arrow and enter keys to get what you need done rather than flicking and tapping like on a phone.

Just like Xp, there’s a desktop with all of your apps. Or you can get to them in the start menu.

Although its easier to just tap the windows key and start typing to search for the app you want. In every case (by default unless you change it), any local results such as apps or app settings will show up first followed next by web results which uses Bing search.

Just like in earlier windows versions you got a taskbar and system trey with all running apps in it.

Windows 10 just calls everything an app now too.

Its got its own built in screen reader which is good enough for probably a lot of people. Not saying you can’t use NVDA or JAWS if you don’t wish too. But Narrator is there and c can be used as a first party option too.

That windows 7 computer can be upgraded to 10.

AT this point I wouldn’t bother g going to 7, since at this point its not supported either.

All of your screen reader commands as well as a lot of windows commands will work the same just like in older versions.

Power toys just came out and keys can be remapped if you have to do so.

There’s also pretty extensive list of keyboard shortcuts that you can find from MS if you do a web search in addition to your screen reader.

You gotta remember. MS serves over 2 billion people with Windows. That’s a lot of age groups and people (some of which have been using Windows since day one.) so while sure they do add things, a lot stays the same too.

Like sure you can dictate in Windows 10 now just like in iOS but you don’t have to if you don’t wanna.

There’s emoji’s like iOS too but again you only can choose to use them if you wanna.

Hope this helps some!

John





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:49 PM
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Hi John,

Thanks for your input. I know it is just going to take my doing things with it and I'll get it. I actually agree with you when you said you are surprised that I am having so much trouble with 10. Yes,I do have an iPhone and don't have trouble interacting with it. I just need to understand it more and how it is laid out to feel more at home with it. Thanks for getting back with me on this.


Kay Malmquist
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"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

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So once you hit the windows key and start typing that’s how you’d search.

From there it will auto announce the results .

Move your up and down arrows to move thru them and press enter on the one you want.

This is exactly like Windows 7 , and if I’m remembering correctly (its been a long time since I used XP), like the new XP start menu.

Many of the things are the same between XP, 7 and 10.

There are things in 10 that you can choose to use or not use.

I dunno what programs you use in Xp but most likely they’ll work in 10 too, perhaps with updated versions.

I’m not sure if you know about smartphones and how they work or not, but one thing new to Windows 10 is this idea of notifications that you can interact with. Just like smartphones windows 10 and 11 have a store that you can get software from.

Now just because it has it doesn’t mean you have to use it, just putting it out there.

Considering you’ve done tech installs and whatnot I’m actually a bit surprised at how lost you are with the OS stuff.

Having said that I’ll help how I can.

John



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Hi all,

Let me start by saying this is going to be a long one. You might say that the computer problem is me. At one time I was a techie and loved a challenge. I even worked for a business as a trainer and installer of computers and adaptive technology. I worked all over the state of Wisconsin with all kinds of people at various levels of computer knowledge. I enjoyed the work but moved away from there and got away from adaptive technology, but of course, still used tech. I still have a computer that a friend of mine and myself put together. This is the machine that I am writing on right now. It was built in 2004 and still flies. All parts are industrial grade and you can tell. This machine has XP on it but can be upgraded with a bit of hardware replacement. I did have a laptop that has Windows 7 on it but never really liked it. In fact, I have two machines that have 7 on them. I never really got the hang of 7, but wasn't apposed to it, just never really got it and didn't have anyone to help me figure it out. I am not stupid and not a slow learner, but I just don't get it. Now we come to the problem. A couple of months ago,I received a Del laptop with Windows 10 on it. I am so frustrated with it. I just don't understand 10. I don't understand the start menu, the layout, how to find things and so much more. I get that there is a search at the top of the start menu and I can search for things, but do I hit tab, enter or what? I want to personalize it and get things going but I can't even find my way around the thing. Every time I try to do anything with it, I run in to road blocks.



What I really need is someone to help me learn everything. Someone who would be willing to start out from the beginning or basics and go from there. If I know something, we can move on. I would be willing to pay obviously for your time but otherwise I just don't know what to do. I feel totally frustrated and don't know where to turn. If anyone has any ideas, or knows of anyone that is good with teaching computers, could you please let me know? I feel embarrassed coming out here on these lists, but I truly do not know what else to do. I have to move on and learn this, but it just isn't working this way. Thanks for any help with this.


Kay Malmquist
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I don't remember who it was, or on which list, but yesterday someone mentioned a list and sent a subscribe link.  It came back as undeliverable.  This is the link that was given.
 
 
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