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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Gene
 

Why not avoid all this trouble and simply purchase an inexpensive external sound card.  All you have to do, if you just want to use it for play, is plug it into the USb port and leave it plugged in. 
 
If people would tell us what probem they are trying to solve, rather than just ask how to do what they think will solve it, they will often get much better help.  We have been answering your question about how to reinstall Windows 7 when, as far as I can tell now, the problem is with your sound card, which is very easy to solve.  You can continue to use Windows 10 if you wish.  You can purchase an external sound card for ten dollars, or if you want better quality, you can spend more.  I haven't priced sound cards so I don't know what the cheapest ones sell for so you may find ones for less than ten dollars.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

The main issue that I have is that there is no updated sound drivers
and I keep getting a dialog box on restart/boot up that tells me that
the sound is not meant for this soft ware version. I've looked
everywhere, it seems, for a fix for this, but I haven't found anything
about it.
When I go to look at hardware and devices it says that my soundcard is
working fine though.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84@...> wrote:
> It's not bad at all. It can run what you want. I'd try to move to
> Windows 10, unless there's a really issue.
> If you have problem we can try to help. There are users who just do not
> like Windows 10 but you should be fine.
>
> On 8/26/2016 7:48 PM, Melissa wrote:
>> Thanks for your opinion. It sounds weird, but I kinda like the name
>> lenovo, maybe it is a girl thing, lol.
>> To compare, my present computer:
>> Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
>> 2.67 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
>> 64 kilobyte
>> I think it is 4 gb of ram
>>
>> So I'm thinking almost anything will be faster, hah.
>>
>>
>> On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
>>> For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really grown
>>> to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
>>> definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that can be
>>> downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
>>> difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.
>>>
>>>
>>> My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak to
>>> what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
>>> processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
>>> pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded to an
>>> SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
>>> I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a long
>>> time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
>>> Just a few thoughts. :)
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>> On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>> Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol
>>>>
>>>> I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
>>>> likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
>>>> buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
>>>> doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
>>>> computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
>>>> computer might be lots better.
>>>> One computer I was looking @ was:
>>>> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1
>>>>
>>>> however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
>>>> less
>>>> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8
>>>>
>>>> As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so low
>>>> as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
>>>> two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they don't
>>>> sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
>>>> stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the computer is
>>>> powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
>>>> When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
>>>> drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
>>>> I'm sure I'm missing something.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Melissa,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
>>>>> laptop
>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>> desktop?  This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
>>>>> with
>>>>> what search criteria to use.
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Melissa
>>>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer. It
>>>>> would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
>>>>> working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting off
>>>>> getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a bit
>>>>> more, lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some entries
>>>>> for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need something
>>>>> all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing types
>>>>> of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music
>>>>> or movies.
>>>>> All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a SSD
>>>>> drive,  bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think of
>>>>> anything else right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
>>>>> will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
>>>>> maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I greatly value y'all's opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
>>>>> nuerotic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Melissa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

That one is fine for the price. If I tell something better, then yellow cards will continue to come.

On 8/26/2016 9:12 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I can't disagree that using a USB type sound card may offer the ability
to have working sound in 10, especially if driver support may be less
than friendly for her computer, but I'm not sure I'd say that it's a fix.


Unless I'm really misunderstanding what you're suggesting, I cringe at
the thought that I'd have to solely rely on an external sound card, just
to have working sound.


Using an external sound card for the PE isn't all that bad, but for my
installation that I use every day, I'd find that to be quite
frustrating, me thinks.

Forgive if you meant something different, that's just how I read things.
hehe


On 8/26/2016 10:50 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
That issue can be fixable.
Do you have a USB headset? Hope you know what it is... LOL!

On 8/26/2016 8:36 PM, Melissa wrote:
Yes and so far, I hope and hope, that is my only issue. I have not
found any resolution for the error I'm getting and the Dell site tells
me that they don't offer windows 10 support for my model.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Will take a look at this. So you have a Dell OptiPlex 755?
Here I can imagine what's your issue but let's make sure.

On 8/26/2016 8:09 PM, Melissa wrote:
The main issue that I have is that there is no updated sound drivers
and I keep getting a dialog box on restart/boot up that tells me that
the sound is not meant for this soft ware version. I've looked
everywhere, it seems, for a fix for this, but I haven't found anything
about it.
When I go to look at hardware and devices it says that my soundcard is
working fine though.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
It's not bad at all. It can run what you want. I'd try to move to
Windows 10, unless there's a really issue.
If you have problem we can try to help. There are users who just
do not
like Windows 10 but you should be fine.

On 8/26/2016 7:48 PM, Melissa wrote:
Thanks for your opinion. It sounds weird, but I kinda like the name
lenovo, maybe it is a girl thing, lol.
To compare, my present computer:
Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
2.67 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
64 kilobyte
I think it is 4 gb of ram

So I'm thinking almost anything will be faster, hah.


On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown
to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that
can
be
downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak
to
what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd
work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded
to an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long
time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience
with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1


however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8


As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not
so low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it,
but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop
or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you
want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off
a bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think
of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being
nuerotic.


Melissa















Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

Approximately 3 GB, but I just remembered that you can also download it from Softpedia here.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Windows-7.shtml

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Good lord, how big would the file be? I have a 16 gb and a 32 gb
flashdrive, but I'm guessing it is more of a how the hell am I going
to get it to you sort of size? Hmm, can't you upload files through the
groups.io page? Or is that for yahoo groups?
Either way I need to get to sleep so going to go quiet for now.

thanks a bunch for the help people

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Several users including myself can provide an ISO image. LOL I just have to

find a service which will host a file that large. It's been a while since
I've had to send anything that large to anyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Okay, but my problem is where to get a copy to use. I don't know
anyone personally who would have a windows installation disk.

.



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
No guarantees, but you should be able to use a plain Windows 7
installation

DVD/ISO image with the product key if it came from the COA key sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


So is there a number besides that key that I need? As I mentioned when
I tried to use it on the microsoft site it told me to go to the
manufacturer and when I went to dell site it told me that it didn't
have an iso that I could download for my model/machine and to contact
tech support. I did contact dell tech support, but no telling when
they will be able to get to it.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If it was on the top of the tower then that should be the COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


It was on the top of the tower I believe. She had to use my phone to
take a pic of it so she could see it better. There are two stickers
on
the top of my tower. One feels newer and the other feels like it's
been there a while, sides peeled up etc.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Do you mean that she retrieved it from your Windows installation or
from

a
sticker on the case? As I said the COA key sticker is usually on
the
side
or top of the case with desktops, and on the bottom with laptops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


The product key is the one my mother got off of my computer, so is
that product key from the COA key sticker?
Is there some other number/key I should have someone look at on my
computer? Or is there a sticker they missed....



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker,
we
could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you could use to
perform

a

clean installation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my
service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site
to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After having
to
re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not
available
for
the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag
or
contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad
so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to
take
my
mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on
the
COA
key
sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top of
the
case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because
I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them
who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some
freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up
being
a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible
to
fix
the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally
you
cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases,
modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read
reports
of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows
using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key
I
tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA
key
sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image
back
up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know.

I
will
send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But,
the
windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that
they
can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag
number,
my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and
get
a
copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I
might
get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it
being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep
now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good
at
getting
to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging
software
you
used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7
or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do
not
work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a
variant
of
a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in

a
super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is
there
a
way
to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not
there
at
all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do
a
clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get
a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use
word
and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would
have
to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the
microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows

7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer
support
for
my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down
a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower
before
I
can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my
computer
is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that
and
getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64
bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?




































Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Haha, nods, more of the second. It's a little of a beast to upload, as it's a few gigabytes in size and there are some services that get upset with the larger upload/downloads. Unfortunately I no longer have my sendspace pro account, else I'd be happy to post it up for you.

You should be able to store it no problem though.


Also, just sort of an FYI, if I end up being the one to help with the uploading, I've only got the 64 bit version of 7 professional, so not sure which one you'd be needing. :)

If I can be of any help though, just let me know what I can do.
May be able to bounce it up to dropbox and send you a link, perhaps just one person grabbing it wouldn't get them all in a tissy. haha
Laters.

On 8/26/2016 11:25 PM, Melissa wrote:
Good lord, how big would the file be? I have a 16 gb and a 32 gb
flashdrive, but I'm guessing it is more of a how the hell am I going
to get it to you sort of size? Hmm, can't you upload files through the
groups.io page? Or is that for yahoo groups?
Either way I need to get to sleep so going to go quiet for now.

thanks a bunch for the help people

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Several users including myself can provide an ISO image. LOL I just have to

find a service which will host a file that large. It's been a while since
I've had to send anything that large to anyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Okay, but my problem is where to get a copy to use. I don't know
anyone personally who would have a windows installation disk.

.



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
No guarantees, but you should be able to use a plain Windows 7
installation

DVD/ISO image with the product key if it came from the COA key sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


So is there a number besides that key that I need? As I mentioned when
I tried to use it on the microsoft site it told me to go to the
manufacturer and when I went to dell site it told me that it didn't
have an iso that I could download for my model/machine and to contact
tech support. I did contact dell tech support, but no telling when
they will be able to get to it.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If it was on the top of the tower then that should be the COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


It was on the top of the tower I believe. She had to use my phone to
take a pic of it so she could see it better. There are two stickers
on
the top of my tower. One feels newer and the other feels like it's
been there a while, sides peeled up etc.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Do you mean that she retrieved it from your Windows installation or
from

a
sticker on the case? As I said the COA key sticker is usually on
the
side
or top of the case with desktops, and on the bottom with laptops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


The product key is the one my mother got off of my computer, so is
that product key from the COA key sticker?
Is there some other number/key I should have someone look at on my
computer? Or is there a sticker they missed....



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker,
we
could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you could use to
perform

a

clean installation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my
service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site
to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After having
to
re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not
available
for
the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag
or
contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad
so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to
take
my
mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on
the
COA
key
sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top of
the
case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because
I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them
who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some
freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up
being
a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible
to
fix
the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally
you
cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases,
modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read
reports
of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows
using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key
I
tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA
key
sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image
back
up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know.

I
will
send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But,
the
windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that
they
can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag
number,
my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and
get
a
copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I
might
get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it
being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep
now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good
at
getting
to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging
software
you
used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7
or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do
not
work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a
variant
of
a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in

a
super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is
there
a
way
to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not
there
at
all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do
a
clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get
a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use
word
and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would
have
to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the
microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows

7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer
support
for
my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down
a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower
before
I
can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my
computer
is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that
and
getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64
bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?


















Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

 

Good lord, how big would the file be? I have a 16 gb and a 32 gb
flashdrive, but I'm guessing it is more of a how the hell am I going
to get it to you sort of size? Hmm, can't you upload files through the
groups.io page? Or is that for yahoo groups?
Either way I need to get to sleep so going to go quiet for now.

thanks a bunch for the help people

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Several users including myself can provide an ISO image. LOL I just have to

find a service which will host a file that large. It's been a while since
I've had to send anything that large to anyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Okay, but my problem is where to get a copy to use. I don't know
anyone personally who would have a windows installation disk.

.



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
No guarantees, but you should be able to use a plain Windows 7
installation

DVD/ISO image with the product key if it came from the COA key sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


So is there a number besides that key that I need? As I mentioned when
I tried to use it on the microsoft site it told me to go to the
manufacturer and when I went to dell site it told me that it didn't
have an iso that I could download for my model/machine and to contact
tech support. I did contact dell tech support, but no telling when
they will be able to get to it.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If it was on the top of the tower then that should be the COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


It was on the top of the tower I believe. She had to use my phone to
take a pic of it so she could see it better. There are two stickers
on
the top of my tower. One feels newer and the other feels like it's
been there a while, sides peeled up etc.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Do you mean that she retrieved it from your Windows installation or
from

a
sticker on the case? As I said the COA key sticker is usually on
the
side
or top of the case with desktops, and on the bottom with laptops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


The product key is the one my mother got off of my computer, so is
that product key from the COA key sticker?
Is there some other number/key I should have someone look at on my
computer? Or is there a sticker they missed....



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker,
we
could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you could use to
perform

a

clean installation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my
service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site
to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After having
to
re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not
available
for
the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag
or
contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad
so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to
take
my
mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on
the
COA
key
sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top of
the
case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because
I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them
who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some
freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up
being
a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible
to
fix
the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally
you
cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases,
modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read
reports
of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows
using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key
I
tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA
key
sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image
back
up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know.

I
will
send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But,
the
windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that
they
can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag
number,
my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and
get
a
copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I
might
get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it
being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep
now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good
at
getting
to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging
software
you
used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7
or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do
not
work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a
variant
of
a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in

a
super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is
there
a
way
to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not
there
at
all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do
a
clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get
a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use
word
and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would
have
to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the
microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows

7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer
support
for
my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down
a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower
before
I
can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my
computer
is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that
and
getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64
bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?




































Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Carlos
 

I tend to agree. It is certainly a solution, but not a solution I would care to use just for the dubious privilege of running Windows 10.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't disagree that using a USB type sound card may offer the ability to have working sound in 10, especially if driver support may be less than friendly for her computer, but I'm not sure I'd say that it's a fix.


Unless I'm really misunderstanding what you're suggesting, I cringe at the thought that I'd have to solely rely on an external sound card, just to have working sound.


Using an external sound card for the PE isn't all that bad, but for my installation that I use every day, I'd find that to be quite frustrating, me thinks.

Forgive if you meant something different, that's just how I read things. hehe


On 8/26/2016 10:50 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
That issue can be fixable.
Do you have a USB headset? Hope you know what it is... LOL!

On 8/26/2016 8:36 PM, Melissa wrote:
Yes and so far, I hope and hope, that is my only issue. I have not
found any resolution for the error I'm getting and the Dell site tells
me that they don't offer windows 10 support for my model.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Will take a look at this. So you have a Dell OptiPlex 755?
Here I can imagine what's your issue but let's make sure.

On 8/26/2016 8:09 PM, Melissa wrote:
The main issue that I have is that there is no updated sound drivers
and I keep getting a dialog box on restart/boot up that tells me that
the sound is not meant for this soft ware version. I've looked
everywhere, it seems, for a fix for this, but I haven't found anything
about it.
When I go to look at hardware and devices it says that my soundcard is
working fine though.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
It's not bad at all. It can run what you want. I'd try to move to
Windows 10, unless there's a really issue.
If you have problem we can try to help. There are users who just do not
like Windows 10 but you should be fine.

On 8/26/2016 7:48 PM, Melissa wrote:
Thanks for your opinion. It sounds weird, but I kinda like the name
lenovo, maybe it is a girl thing, lol.
To compare, my present computer:
Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
2.67 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
64 kilobyte
I think it is 4 gb of ram

So I'm thinking almost anything will be faster, hah.


On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown
to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that can
be
downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak
to
what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded to an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long
time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1

however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8

As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop
or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think
of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa














Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Gene
 

I don't see any reason for an SSD drive if your computer is going to be used for word processing and other undemanding work.  I haven't compared prices, but I would think you might save perhaps fifty or one-hundred dollars and have a larger drive if you get a computer with a mechanical drive. 
 
I don't know how much you want to spend but for word processing, e-mail  and Internet browsing, you might consider a computer from, I believe it's called computers for the blind.  I know little about them but they provide Windows 7 machines for a much cheaper price than purchasing a new computer. 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer. It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a SSD
drive,  bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being nuerotic.


Melissa



Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

A USB soundcard?
This one is not bad:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EHG7DM
It's $15. Let me know if you want me to use my Amazon Prime so you get it faster.

On 8/26/2016 8:51 PM, Melissa wrote:
That is a good idea, I never thought of that. Any suggestions?

As for upgrading hard drives I was thinking of a newer computer to do
that on, not mine. I think the year of manu of my computer is 2006.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
It's always a good idea to go with a faster processor and also more memory.
This one is also good but it's not really better than your current Dell
computer.
You can upgrade the hard drive to a SSD one later, but you may not get
the advertised speed of that new SSD on that old computer.
By the way, I know what's your sound problem but there is little we can
do to fix it. Maybe you can get a cheap but usable USB sound card and do
not use the built-in one.

On 8/26/2016 8:32 PM, Melissa wrote:
After seeing the one Carlos linked (TS M53 Celeron 4GB 500GB ) and
this other one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00SNSFMYA
I’m thinking that an SSD drive isn’t *that* important since I can
upgrade that in the future (and also have an external to use) so I
could go more for processor speed? Or I see USB 2.0 with some USB 3.0
also.


On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy

than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was
one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but still a
PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that
my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have ever
owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown

to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that can
be

downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak
to

what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded to
an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long

time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1

however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8

As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the computer
is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think
of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa














Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

Several users including myself can provide an ISO image. LOL I just have to find a service which will host a file that large. It's been a while since I've had to send anything that large to anyone.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Okay, but my problem is where to get a copy to use. I don't know
anyone personally who would have a windows installation disk.

.



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
No guarantees, but you should be able to use a plain Windows 7 installation

DVD/ISO image with the product key if it came from the COA key sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


So is there a number besides that key that I need? As I mentioned when
I tried to use it on the microsoft site it told me to go to the
manufacturer and when I went to dell site it told me that it didn't
have an iso that I could download for my model/machine and to contact
tech support. I did contact dell tech support, but no telling when
they will be able to get to it.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If it was on the top of the tower then that should be the COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


It was on the top of the tower I believe. She had to use my phone to
take a pic of it so she could see it better. There are two stickers on
the top of my tower. One feels newer and the other feels like it's
been there a while, sides peeled up etc.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Do you mean that she retrieved it from your Windows installation or
from

a
sticker on the case? As I said the COA key sticker is usually on the
side
or top of the case with desktops, and on the bottom with laptops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


The product key is the one my mother got off of my computer, so is
that product key from the COA key sticker?
Is there some other number/key I should have someone look at on my
computer? Or is there a sticker they missed....



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker,
we
could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you could use to
perform

a

clean installation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site
to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After having
to
re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for
the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service Tag
or
contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad
so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my
mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA
key
sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top of the
case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because
I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them
who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some
freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up
being
a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix
the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases,
modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read
reports
of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows
using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I
tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will
send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that
they
can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag
number,
my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and
get
a
copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might
get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep
now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting
to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you
used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7
or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do
not
work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a
variant
of
a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a
super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a
way
to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at
all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do
a
clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get
a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use
word
and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would
have
to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows

7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support
for
my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down
a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower
before
I
can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my
computer
is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that
and
getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64
bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?
































Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Haha. If only we had computer pixies that would drop a new one off, every year or so, just to keep us up to date.

I wont be greedy, but perhaps she'd have a sister that deals in phones too. Guessing that most pixies are chicks, don't know that one though. :)

Tc.

On 8/26/2016 10:48 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
I can't mail cash, <LOL>! but we can think about other available gifting options...:)

On 8/26/2016 8:34 PM, Melissa wrote:
yeah, yeah, then send me your cast-offs, lol

On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
Hey now, if you're giving away machines, may I build it and send you the
bill? :P

My credit card would be quite appreciative, me thinks. :)


On 8/26/2016 10:08 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
Carlos, is this really your current machine? What if I build and gift
you a new one...<LOL>!

On 8/26/2016 8:06 PM, Carlos wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but
still a PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have
ever owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now.
I'd definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that
can be downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up
being to difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super
bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak
to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for
word processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd
work pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220,
upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased later down the road and
installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1




however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8




As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want
& with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer. It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been
putting off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa















Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

 

To be honest I am not sure how you would see the issue I am having if
you went in remotely. At the moment I'm not too comfortable about it
either since I really don't know you well.
I'm not trying to be rude btw
Also, I have an appointment tomorrow so off to bed soon.

On 8/26/16, Melissa Hammitt <@MJMarney> wrote:
Okay, but my problem is where to get a copy to use. I don't know
anyone personally who would have a windows installation disk.

.



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
No guarantees, but you should be able to use a plain Windows 7
installation

DVD/ISO image with the product key if it came from the COA key sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


So is there a number besides that key that I need? As I mentioned when
I tried to use it on the microsoft site it told me to go to the
manufacturer and when I went to dell site it told me that it didn't
have an iso that I could download for my model/machine and to contact
tech support. I did contact dell tech support, but no telling when
they will be able to get to it.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If it was on the top of the tower then that should be the COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


It was on the top of the tower I believe. She had to use my phone to
take a pic of it so she could see it better. There are two stickers on
the top of my tower. One feels newer and the other feels like it's
been there a while, sides peeled up etc.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Do you mean that she retrieved it from your Windows installation or
from

a
sticker on the case? As I said the COA key sticker is usually on the
side
or top of the case with desktops, and on the bottom with laptops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


The product key is the one my mother got off of my computer, so is
that product key from the COA key sticker?
Is there some other number/key I should have someone look at on my
computer? Or is there a sticker they missed....



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker,
we
could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you could use to
perform

a

clean installation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my
service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site
to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After having
to
re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for
the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service Tag
or
contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad
so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my
mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on
the
COA
key
sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top of the
case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because
I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them
who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some
freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up
being
a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix
the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally
you
cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases,
modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read
reports
of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows
using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I
tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
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To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image
back
up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know.
I
will
send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that
they
can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag
number,
my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and
get
a
copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might
get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep
now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting
to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you
used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7
or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do
not
work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a
variant
of
a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in
a
super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a
way
to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not
there
at
all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do
a
clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get
a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use
word
and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would
have
to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows

7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support
for
my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down
a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower
before
I
can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my
computer
is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that
and
getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64
bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?
































Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Carlos
 

I didn't say anything about connecting a SATA III SSD to a SATA II
controller. I was referring to your general statements about how it is
always better to go with a faster processor and more memory. Those are
general assumptions which really depend on the needs of the user and the
amount of money they are capable or willing to spend.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


No that is not the case. You want to put a SATA III SSD in a SATA II
port? and you want to get SATA III speed? If you did, I'll also add a
good sets of Bose speakers. to your package. LOL
I know what I'm doing but I am here to do it. I'll go finally.

On 8/26/2016 8:50 PM, Carlos wrote:
You are making the assumption that everyone requires an extremely powerful
machine which is not always the case for more basic needs. Also, price
is a
major consideration for many users.
----- Original Message -----
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To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


It's always a good idea to go with a faster processor and also more
memory.
This one is also good but it's not really better than your current Dell
computer.
You can upgrade the hard drive to a SSD one later, but you may not get
the advertised speed of that new SSD on that old computer.
By the way, I know what's your sound problem but there is little we can
do to fix it. Maybe you can get a cheap but usable USB sound card and do
not use the built-in one.

On 8/26/2016 8:32 PM, Melissa wrote:
After seeing the one Carlos linked (TS M53 Celeron 4GB 500GB ) and
this other one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00SNSFMYA
I’m thinking that an SSD drive isn’t *that* important since I can
upgrade that in the future (and also have an external to use) so I
could go more for processor speed? Or I see USB 2.0 with some USB 3.0
also.


On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy

than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was
one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but still a
PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that
my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have ever
owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown

to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that can
be

downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak
to

what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded
to an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long

time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1


however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8


As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think
of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa
















Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

 

Okay, but my problem is where to get a copy to use. I don't know
anyone personally who would have a windows installation disk.

.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
No guarantees, but you should be able to use a plain Windows 7 installation

DVD/ISO image with the product key if it came from the COA key sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


So is there a number besides that key that I need? As I mentioned when
I tried to use it on the microsoft site it told me to go to the
manufacturer and when I went to dell site it told me that it didn't
have an iso that I could download for my model/machine and to contact
tech support. I did contact dell tech support, but no telling when
they will be able to get to it.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If it was on the top of the tower then that should be the COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


It was on the top of the tower I believe. She had to use my phone to
take a pic of it so she could see it better. There are two stickers on
the top of my tower. One feels newer and the other feels like it's
been there a while, sides peeled up etc.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Do you mean that she retrieved it from your Windows installation or
from

a
sticker on the case? As I said the COA key sticker is usually on the
side
or top of the case with desktops, and on the bottom with laptops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


The product key is the one my mother got off of my computer, so is
that product key from the COA key sticker?
Is there some other number/key I should have someone look at on my
computer? Or is there a sticker they missed....



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker,
we
could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you could use to
perform

a

clean installation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site
to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After having
to
re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for
the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service Tag
or
contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad
so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my
mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA
key
sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top of the
case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because
I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them
who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some
freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up
being
a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix
the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases,
modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read
reports
of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows
using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I
tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will
send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that
they
can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag
number,
my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and
get
a
copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might
get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep
now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting
to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you
used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7
or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do
not
work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a
variant
of
a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a
super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a
way
to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at
all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do
a
clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get
a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use
word
and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would
have
to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows

7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support
for
my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down
a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower
before
I
can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my
computer
is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that
and
getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64
bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?
































Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

I can't disagree that using a USB type sound card may offer the ability to have working sound in 10, especially if driver support may be less than friendly for her computer, but I'm not sure I'd say that it's a fix.


Unless I'm really misunderstanding what you're suggesting, I cringe at the thought that I'd have to solely rely on an external sound card, just to have working sound.


Using an external sound card for the PE isn't all that bad, but for my installation that I use every day, I'd find that to be quite frustrating, me thinks.

Forgive if you meant something different, that's just how I read things. hehe

On 8/26/2016 10:50 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
That issue can be fixable.
Do you have a USB headset? Hope you know what it is... LOL!

On 8/26/2016 8:36 PM, Melissa wrote:
Yes and so far, I hope and hope, that is my only issue. I have not
found any resolution for the error I'm getting and the Dell site tells
me that they don't offer windows 10 support for my model.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Will take a look at this. So you have a Dell OptiPlex 755?
Here I can imagine what's your issue but let's make sure.

On 8/26/2016 8:09 PM, Melissa wrote:
The main issue that I have is that there is no updated sound drivers
and I keep getting a dialog box on restart/boot up that tells me that
the sound is not meant for this soft ware version. I've looked
everywhere, it seems, for a fix for this, but I haven't found anything
about it.
When I go to look at hardware and devices it says that my soundcard is
working fine though.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
It's not bad at all. It can run what you want. I'd try to move to
Windows 10, unless there's a really issue.
If you have problem we can try to help. There are users who just do not
like Windows 10 but you should be fine.

On 8/26/2016 7:48 PM, Melissa wrote:
Thanks for your opinion. It sounds weird, but I kinda like the name
lenovo, maybe it is a girl thing, lol.
To compare, my present computer:
Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
2.67 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
64 kilobyte
I think it is 4 gb of ram

So I'm thinking almost anything will be faster, hah.


On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown
to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that can
be
downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak
to
what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded to an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long
time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1

however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8

As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop
or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think
of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa













Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

No that is not the case. You want to put a SATA III SSD in a SATA II port? and you want to get SATA III speed? If you did, I'll also add a good sets of Bose speakers. to your package. LOL
I know what I'm doing but I am here to do it. I'll go finally.

On 8/26/2016 8:50 PM, Carlos wrote:
You are making the assumption that everyone requires an extremely powerful
machine which is not always the case for more basic needs. Also, price
is a
major consideration for many users.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


It's always a good idea to go with a faster processor and also more memory.
This one is also good but it's not really better than your current Dell
computer.
You can upgrade the hard drive to a SSD one later, but you may not get
the advertised speed of that new SSD on that old computer.
By the way, I know what's your sound problem but there is little we can
do to fix it. Maybe you can get a cheap but usable USB sound card and do
not use the built-in one.

On 8/26/2016 8:32 PM, Melissa wrote:
After seeing the one Carlos linked (TS M53 Celeron 4GB 500GB ) and
this other one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00SNSFMYA
I’m thinking that an SSD drive isn’t *that* important since I can
upgrade that in the future (and also have an external to use) so I
could go more for processor speed? Or I see USB 2.0 with some USB 3.0
also.


On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy

than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was
one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but still a
PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that
my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have ever
owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown

to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that can
be

downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak
to

what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded
to an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long

time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1


however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8


As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think
of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa















Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

 

I usually keep my computer on and set to go to sleep after 20 minutes.
By basic tasks would using it for MS word and excel, using iTunes to
transfer stuff to my phone, and basic internet browsing count?
So far everything looks like it might be a good idea for me to save up
or look into the either the one you have or that one for under $300 I
posted before.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
It has a very quiet fan and I have run it for a few hours at a time without
overheating, but I only use it for one purpose and I have never stressed
it's capabilities. It runs pretty smoothly for basic tasks though. It
also
runs my DJ software just fine which is a bit more resource intensive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


@Carlos:
Item Weight
2.9 pounds
Product Dimensions
7 x 7.2 x 1.4 inches
Seriously? I would love a computer that small, lol. I could get rid of
my tower and stretch my legs out under my desk.

How is the heat when running it? I imagine there aren’t big fans in
it. Right now I have a 10inch desk fan that runs on USB aimed at the
back of my tower to keep it cooler.

This one only looks interesting I think because it is faster and under
$300 and I’m cheap, lol.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2BKOZNAGRZRYF&coliid=I1X4W5B5ZCKC4P

Melissa



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL be aware that machine is tiny. It's about the size of a VHS
cassette,
but more square. The one I purchased came with 8 GB. Mind you, despite
it's size, it is perfectly functional if all you want is a basic system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


After seeing the one Carlos linked (TS M53 Celeron 4GB 500GB ) and
this other one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00SNSFMYA
I’m thinking that an SSD drive isn’t *that* important since I can
upgrade that in the future (and also have an external to use) so I
could go more for processor speed? Or I see USB 2.0 with some USB 3.0
also.


On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy

than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it was
one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but still a
PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that
my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have ever
owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown

to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that can
be

downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak
to

what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded to
an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long

time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1

however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8

As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the computer
is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think
of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa





















Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

No guarantees, but you should be able to use a plain Windows 7 installation DVD/ISO image with the product key if it came from the COA key sticker.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


So is there a number besides that key that I need? As I mentioned when
I tried to use it on the microsoft site it told me to go to the
manufacturer and when I went to dell site it told me that it didn't
have an iso that I could download for my model/machine and to contact
tech support. I did contact dell tech support, but no telling when
they will be able to get to it.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If it was on the top of the tower then that should be the COA key sticker.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


It was on the top of the tower I believe. She had to use my phone to
take a pic of it so she could see it better. There are two stickers on
the top of my tower. One feels newer and the other feels like it's
been there a while, sides peeled up etc.

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Do you mean that she retrieved it from your Windows installation or from

a
sticker on the case? As I said the COA key sticker is usually on the
side
or top of the case with desktops, and on the bottom with laptops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


The product key is the one my mother got off of my computer, so is
that product key from the COA key sticker?
Is there some other number/key I should have someone look at on my
computer? Or is there a sticker they missed....



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key sticker,
we
could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you could use to
perform

a

clean installation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell site
to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After having to
re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for
the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service Tag or
contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too bad
so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take my
mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA
key
sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top of the
case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install, because
I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some
freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up
being
a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix
the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases,
modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read
reports
of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows
using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I
tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key
sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will
send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they
can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number,
my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get
a
copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might
get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep
now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting
to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you
used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7
or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do
not
work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant
of
a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a
super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a
way
to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at
all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do
a
clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get
a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word
and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would
have
to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows

7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support
for
my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down
a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower
before
I
can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer
is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and
getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64
bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?




























Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Carlos
 

Sure what ever, but I have no idea what you are talking about.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


hahaha. Let's keep this one for myself.
Something comes out.

On 8/26/2016 8:58 PM, Carlos wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by come out of it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For now I am going to see how can get that "SoundMax Integrated Digital
Audio" work in Windows 10. Carlos you say. I like helping people...
Maybe sometime come out of it LOL

On 8/26/2016 8:39 PM, Carlos wrote:
LOL be aware that machine is tiny. It's about the size of a VHS
cassette,
but more square. The one I purchased came with 8 GB. Mind you, despite
it's size, it is perfectly functional if all you want is a basic system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


After seeing the one Carlos linked (TS M53 Celeron 4GB 500GB ) and
this other one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00SNSFMYA
I’m thinking that an SSD drive isn’t *that* important since I can
upgrade that in the future (and also have an external to use) so I
could go more for processor speed? Or I see USB 2.0 with some USB 3.0
also.


On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy

than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was
one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but still a
PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that
my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have ever
owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown

to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that
can be

downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak to

what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded
to an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long

time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1



however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8



As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa



















Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

 

I'm thinking that he meant that maybe something will come out of it as
in all of the trouble he wants to go through to fix my problem. lol

On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by come out of it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For now I am going to see how can get that "SoundMax Integrated Digital
Audio" work in Windows 10. Carlos you say. I like helping people...
Maybe sometime come out of it LOL

On 8/26/2016 8:39 PM, Carlos wrote:
LOL be aware that machine is tiny. It's about the size of a VHS
cassette,
but more square. The one I purchased came with 8 GB. Mind you, despite
it's size, it is perfectly functional if all you want is a basic system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


After seeing the one Carlos linked (TS M53 Celeron 4GB 500GB ) and
this other one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00SNSFMYA
I’m thinking that an SSD drive isn’t *that* important since I can
upgrade that in the future (and also have an external to use) so I
could go more for processor speed? Or I see USB 2.0 with some USB 3.0
also.


On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy

than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was
one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but still a
PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that
my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have ever
owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown

to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that
can be

downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak to

what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded to
an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long

time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1


however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8


As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the computer
is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa




















Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Carlos
 

It says,
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional x64 with upgrade to Windows 10
Since I own it, I know for a fact that it includes Windows 7 Professional.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


"Windows 7/10 Professional"?
Finally which one?
I think worth contacting the seller to confirm?
Hey, Don't make another head ace...

On 8/26/2016 8:49 PM, Melissa wrote:
@Carlos:
Item Weight
2.9 pounds
Product Dimensions
7 x 7.2 x 1.4 inches
Seriously? I would love a computer that small, lol. I could get rid of
my tower and stretch my legs out under my desk.

How is the heat when running it? I imagine there aren’t big fans in
it. Right now I have a 10inch desk fan that runs on USB aimed at the
back of my tower to keep it cooler.

This one only looks interesting I think because it is faster and under
$300 and I’m cheap, lol.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2BKOZNAGRZRYF&coliid=I1X4W5B5ZCKC4P

Melissa



On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL be aware that machine is tiny. It's about the size of a VHS
cassette,
but more square. The one I purchased came with 8 GB. Mind you, despite
it's size, it is perfectly functional if all you want is a basic system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


After seeing the one Carlos linked (TS M53 Celeron 4GB 500GB ) and
this other one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A04M72E/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00SNSFMYA
I’m thinking that an SSD drive isn’t *that* important since I can
upgrade that in the future (and also have an external to use) so I
could go more for processor speed? Or I see USB 2.0 with some USB 3.0
also.


On 8/26/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy

than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was
one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but still a
PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that
my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have ever
owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown

to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that can
be

downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really speak
to

what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for word
processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd work
pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded to
an
SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long

time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1

however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5 dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8

As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so. Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the computer
is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it, but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want &
with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think
of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa