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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

 

I like to be able to set all of my attention on the computer when I am
using it so I guess I'm all for having to get up, walk over to my
desk, and sit to type. Plus, the latency of bluetooth, its been a
while since I tested it with a keyboard, drives me nuts. Though that
could've been because I was using a BT keyboard with my phone, who
knows?

On 8/28/16, Peter Spitz <peter.a.spitz@...> wrote:
I keep my tower in my spare bedroom, on the floor. With a Bluetooth headset
and wireless keyboard, I can sit anywhere in the house, and even outside on
the patio, and use the computer. If I want to use my expensive corded
headphones to listen to high fidelity music, I just go into the spare room
and sit on a love seat that I put next to the tower. Most of the time, I
just sit in my living room or lay in my bed and use the Bluetooth headphones
and wireless keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

That sounds like something worth looking for, especially if I ever have to
scale down. It would be nice now, since we are bulging crowded.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I've seen so many computer desks that are these giant things; sometimes
l-shaped and all. I didn't have room for anything like that in this crowded
apartment. The one we were in when we got this was even smaller and more
crowded. So, I found this thing that is called a Euro-cart. It has the top
part, a keyboard shelf that slides in and out, a printer shelf that is
underneath that can slide out, and the bottom shelf. To the left of the
part that has all that is a place made to hold a tower, and above that is a
shelf that looks like it's for software. I have my cable modem on that, and
right now, a package of cds. When I was telling somebody about my computer
table, that it was small, and that it's called a Euro-cart, he said: "Oh
yes. In Europ, they have small things like that". Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I miss the desk I had before my stroke when I still was with my idiot ex
boyfriend. It had a little shelf for my tower, a rollout shelf for my
keyboard and mouse and plenty of desktop space for my flat screen monitor
and the random crap I kept on my desk, lol.
I like my desk now. It is a corner desk with two shelves above the main desk
part, but I don't keep anything on there the fax machine that is never used
it there along with the cable modem. The bottom part of the desk, which is
off of the floor, has my tower, the mini fan I have for it and the surge
protector and cords on it.I can put my feet up on it, but I tend to sit
cross legged most of the time. I think I need a more comfortable chair, but
I don't have much room in my bedroom for a bigger chair.

On 8/27/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:
I don't mind the size of my tower, because my computer table has a
space specifically made for a tower. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Good grief that is small and here I have this giant tower. At least
monitors aren't 50lbs monsters any more.
On 8/27/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Sorry, I was thinking of the Intel Compute Stick,
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-st
ick.html but there are quite a few other pocket sized PCs these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


Dell has a PC the size of a flash drive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


tell me about it a freaking computer with nice specs the size of a
VHS tape, then again how many of the youngings know what a VHS tape
is nowadays? lol

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
It is a forever changing world that we live in. Somehow, it seems
that as more time goes on, the faster the changes are.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf

Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

It seems like that's always the way. You find somebody who Is
good, and then they either move, or they get too busy with work
and can't do it anymore, or whatever. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I have a tech who I could ask to help me, he helped me with this
computer when I got it, but I'm not sure how much it would cost me
to do the whole shebang so to speak.
I'm sad that the guy I had found years ago who had a home business
moved

to
freaking arizona. He was awesome.

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I am glad to have that clarified. She got a laptop; I'd prefer a
desktop.

I
will keep them in mind, if the time comes for me to have to
replace, which, in all probability, it will.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


CFB charges a nominal fee of $110 for a refurbished desktop
computer and
$130 for a refurbed laptop. You are permitted to request one
computer per year.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Melissa, have you contacted:
Computers for the Blind
214-340-6328

They are located in Garland, Texas and provide refurbished
computers with NVDA for, I believe it is $127. A friend of mine
in Houston got one, and the computer guy at her church updated it
from 7 to 10 for her. She has been very pleased with it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would
mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it
off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't
need something all powerful since I usually use my computer for
word processing types of things and the internet. I don't use my
computer to listen to music or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking
a SSD drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I
can't think of anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible
to do maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: MyWeigh Vox 300 scale and error message

Gerald Levy
 

I have a similar My Weigh Phoenix talking scale which completely died on me a few months ago. One day, I tapped on the platform to activate it, and poof, no speech at all. I tried five different brand new 9 volt batteries but no luck. In my experience, once a talking scale stops talking, it is done for good. There is no way to restore speech unless you return it to the manufacturer for repair, which could cost more than buying a new scale. I suspect that these scales crap out prematurely because their delicate electronics cannot withstand the high humidity levels of a typical bathroom. I recently purchased a Newline SCB105 talking scale from Amazon.com for under $25 to replace the dead My Weigh scale. It is accurate, easy to use and has clear speech, and to prolong its life, I keep it in my bedroom instead of the bathroom.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 1:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MyWeigh Vox 300 scale and error message

What about removing and re-inserting the battery, if possible?

On 8/28/2016 10:18 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
Hello list,

So I was wondering if anyone who may also have this model talking
scale knows how to get rid of the error message or otherwise re-set it?

This is my second model as the first one crapped out on me and at that
time, I didn’t know what I did with the warranty card.

I do have all the paperwork for this one in case I need to send it in,
but was hoping that someone knew of a way to get out of this mode
without the hassle of having to send it out to be fixed.

Other than the four buttons on the scale, there doesn’t seem to be any
other type of switch or button to reset the device. It turns on fine
and does announce the “Hello” message, but when it comes time to
weigh something, there’s a beep and the display says “error” according
to my sighted better half.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Thanks,




Re: looking for an accessible tv

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Not sure how this would work now since there is no optical socket on the Apple TV, 4th Generation.

On 28 Aug 2016, at 18:41, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Another idea maybe one could use Apple TV without a TV, if they do not need to see the screen? I did not try an Apple TV but I guess this maybe possible.

On 8/28/2016 10:34 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

The Samsung "accessible" 50 inch TV reviewed by Accessible World has
been been discontinued, although you can find used ones on Amazon.com
for $850,a pretty steep price for somebody else's garbage that may or
may not work. But even brand new, $850 would be a ridiculous price to
pay just for an oversized TV that is partially accessible because it has
built-in speech. I say partially accessible because there is no way a
blind person could set it up himself without tech-savvy sighted help
because it has a zillion jacks on the rear panel, and a zillion more
buttons on the remote. Besides, a 50 inch TV is too large for a
bedroom, and why would you want such a large set if you can't see the
screen in the first place? It also comes with 3D glasses, but 3D TV
never really caught on, and most manufacturers are phasing out sets with
this feature. So at present, there isn't really a small, reasonably
priced "accessible" TV on the market, and except for Samsung, no other
manufacturers have shown much interest in offering TV's with built-in
speech to make menu navigation accessible to bblind consumers.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for an accessible tv

This may worth reading:
An Evaluation of the Samsung UN50H6400 TelevisionAugust 2014
http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw150803

On 8/28/2016 9:01 AM, heather albright wrote:
Hello, can anyone please tell me which tv brand is more accessible? My
mom has a ten year old tv in the living room about 40 inches and she has
a smaller tv in her room! I do not think either have a sap channel on
the tv! I know the living room tv does not have a built in antenna and
it is not hd ready! I want a tv for my room because, I want to maybe get
the apple tv but, my mom does not want to use it so, I have to get my
own tv set. But, if I get a tv, I want it to be accessible with the sap
channel and easy to use minues! I was thinking maybe the tv would have
an app so I can use my phone to run the tv set! Thanks, Heather





Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Brian Zolo <bzolo@...>
 

Good afternoon, Billy Brian Zolo here from Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin! Just curious what Bluetooth headset and wireless keyboard you're using? I'm looking for a good Bluetooth headset and wireless keyboard. I'm using a Logitech g930 wireless headset but don't like all the interference I get with it. Definitely looking for another good wireless headset and have also considered getting a wireless keyboard as well. Have a great day! BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Spitz
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:08 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I keep my tower in my spare bedroom, on the floor. With a Bluetooth headset and wireless keyboard, I can sit anywhere in the house, and even outside on the patio, and use the computer. If I want to use my expensive corded headphones to listen to high fidelity music, I just go into the spare room and sit on a love seat that I put next to the tower. Most of the time, I just sit in my living room or lay in my bed and use the Bluetooth headphones and wireless keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

That sounds like something worth looking for, especially if I ever have to scale down. It would be nice now, since we are bulging crowded.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I've seen so many computer desks that are these giant things; sometimes l-shaped and all. I didn't have room for anything like that in this crowded apartment. The one we were in when we got this was even smaller and more crowded. So, I found this thing that is called a Euro-cart. It has the top part, a keyboard shelf that slides in and out, a printer shelf that is underneath that can slide out, and the bottom shelf. To the left of the part that has all that is a place made to hold a tower, and above that is a shelf that looks like it's for software. I have my cable modem on that, and right now, a package of cds. When I was telling somebody about my computer table, that it was small, and that it's called a Euro-cart, he said: "Oh yes. In Europ, they have small things like that". Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I miss the desk I had before my stroke when I still was with my idiot ex boyfriend. It had a little shelf for my tower, a rollout shelf for my keyboard and mouse and plenty of desktop space for my flat screen monitor and the random crap I kept on my desk, lol.
I like my desk now. It is a corner desk with two shelves above the main desk part, but I don't keep anything on there the fax machine that is never used it there along with the cable modem. The bottom part of the desk, which is off of the floor, has my tower, the mini fan I have for it and the surge protector and cords on it.I can put my feet up on it, but I tend to sit cross legged most of the time. I think I need a more comfortable chair, but I don't have much room in my bedroom for a bigger chair.

On 8/27/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:
I don't mind the size of my tower, because my computer table has a
space specifically made for a tower. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Good grief that is small and here I have this giant tower. At least
monitors aren't 50lbs monsters any more.
On 8/27/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Sorry, I was thinking of the Intel Compute Stick,
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-st
ick.html but there are quite a few other pocket sized PCs these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


Dell has a PC the size of a flash drive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


tell me about it a freaking computer with nice specs the size of a
VHS tape, then again how many of the youngings know what a VHS tape
is nowadays? lol

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
It is a forever changing world that we live in. Somehow, it seems
that as more time goes on, the faster the changes are.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf

Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

It seems like that's always the way. You find somebody who Is
good, and then they either move, or they get too busy with work
and can't do it anymore, or whatever. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I have a tech who I could ask to help me, he helped me with this
computer when I got it, but I'm not sure how much it would cost me
to do the whole shebang so to speak.
I'm sad that the guy I had found years ago who had a home business
moved

to
freaking arizona. He was awesome.

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I am glad to have that clarified. She got a laptop; I'd prefer a
desktop.

I
will keep them in mind, if the time comes for me to have to
replace, which, in all probability, it will.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


CFB charges a nominal fee of $110 for a refurbished desktop
computer and
$130 for a refurbed laptop. You are permitted to request one
computer per year.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Melissa, have you contacted:
Computers for the Blind
214-340-6328

They are located in Garland, Texas and provide refurbished
computers with NVDA for, I believe it is $127. A friend of mine
in Houston got one, and the computer guy at her church updated it
from 7 to 10 for her. She has been very pleased with it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would
mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it
off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't
need something all powerful since I usually use my computer for
word processing types of things and the internet. I don't use my
computer to listen to music or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking
a SSD drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I
can't think of anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible
to do maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

 

Sadly, because it sounds like a cool store to go to, the only
locations in Texas are in Dallas and Houston and I am more near San
Antonio.

On 8/28/16, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@...> wrote:
Sis Melissa, do you have a Microcenter close by? If yes, can you possibly
visit one and play with computers to your heart's content before settling
on
one? I'm sure you can grab a REFURBISHED desktop or laptop at a reasonable
price at Microcenter. They generally offer a 14-day return on refurbished
computers.

I bought my Windows7 Professional 64Bit laptop from this company five years
ago. It is a Sony Vaio; original price was $899.99, but I grabbed it for
$359.95! It is a refurbished computer and I have never looked back. I
leave this thing on 24 hours a day, never turn it off for any reason except
when there is a power outage in which case it automatically switches off
anyway, and when I am leaving town for longer than a week or two. I don't
even have a cooling pad for this thing, it just works and I am a very, very
happy camper with this laptop.

At Microcenter, I believe you can tell the folks you want a computer that
runs Windows7 and they'll do what they can to help.

Yes, there are some Sony bloatware on this computer; I have deleted most of
them with no problems, but I do have a few more to get rid off. And yes,
if
I so choose, I can upgrade to the next version of Windows whenever I am
ready for it. It does come with a Windows Anytime upgrade; I confess that
I
have not paid attention to the rules for availing myself of the anytime
upgrade. But, since Windows7 Professional is NOT broken, let it keep
having
fun and I'll cross the next GOLDEN GATE bridge after I buy it off of San
Francisco.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado






Re: MyWeigh Vox 300 scale and error message

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

What about removing and re-inserting the battery, if possible?

On 8/28/2016 10:18 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
Hello list,

So I was wondering if anyone who may also have this model talking
scale knows how to get rid of the error message or otherwise re-set it?

This is my second model as the first one crapped out on me and at that
time, I didn’t know what I did with the warranty card.

I do have all the paperwork for this one in case I need to send it in,
but was hoping that someone knew of a way to get out of this mode
without the hassle of having to send it out to be fixed.

Other than the four buttons on the scale, there doesn’t seem to be any
other type of switch or button to reset the device. It turns on fine
and does announce the “Hello” message, but when it comes time to
weigh something, there’s a beep and the display says “error” according
to my sighted better half.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Thanks,




Re: looking for an accessible tv

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

Another idea maybe one could use Apple TV without a TV, if they do not need to see the screen? I did not try an Apple TV but I guess this maybe possible.

On 8/28/2016 10:34 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

The Samsung "accessible" 50 inch TV reviewed by Accessible World has
been been discontinued, although you can find used ones on Amazon.com
for $850,a pretty steep price for somebody else's garbage that may or
may not work. But even brand new, $850 would be a ridiculous price to
pay just for an oversized TV that is partially accessible because it has
built-in speech. I say partially accessible because there is no way a
blind person could set it up himself without tech-savvy sighted help
because it has a zillion jacks on the rear panel, and a zillion more
buttons on the remote. Besides, a 50 inch TV is too large for a
bedroom, and why would you want such a large set if you can't see the
screen in the first place? It also comes with 3D glasses, but 3D TV
never really caught on, and most manufacturers are phasing out sets with
this feature. So at present, there isn't really a small, reasonably
priced "accessible" TV on the market, and except for Samsung, no other
manufacturers have shown much interest in offering TV's with built-in
speech to make menu navigation accessible to bblind consumers.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for an accessible tv

This may worth reading:
An Evaluation of the Samsung UN50H6400 TelevisionAugust 2014
http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw150803

On 8/28/2016 9:01 AM, heather albright wrote:
Hello, can anyone please tell me which tv brand is more accessible? My
mom has a ten year old tv in the living room about 40 inches and she has
a smaller tv in her room! I do not think either have a sap channel on
the tv! I know the living room tv does not have a built in antenna and
it is not hd ready! I want a tv for my room because, I want to maybe get
the apple tv but, my mom does not want to use it so, I have to get my
own tv set. But, if I get a tv, I want it to be accessible with the sap
channel and easy to use minues! I was thinking maybe the tv would have
an app so I can use my phone to run the tv set! Thanks, Heather




Re: looking for an accessible tv

Gerald Levy
 

The Samsung "accessible" 50 inch TV reviewed by Accessible World has been been discontinued, although you can find used ones on Amazon.com for $850,a pretty steep price for somebody else's garbage that may or may not work. But even brand new, $850 would be a ridiculous price to pay just for an oversized TV that is partially accessible because it has built-in speech. I say partially accessible because there is no way a blind person could set it up himself without tech-savvy sighted help because it has a zillion jacks on the rear panel, and a zillion more buttons on the remote. Besides, a 50 inch TV is too large for a bedroom, and why would you want such a large set if you can't see the screen in the first place? It also comes with 3D glasses, but 3D TV never really caught on, and most manufacturers are phasing out sets with this feature. So at present, there isn't really a small, reasonably priced "accessible" TV on the market, and except for Samsung, no other manufacturers have shown much interest in offering TV's with built-in speech to make menu navigation accessible to bblind consumers.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] looking for an accessible tv

This may worth reading:
An Evaluation of the Samsung UN50H6400 TelevisionAugust 2014
http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw150803

On 8/28/2016 9:01 AM, heather albright wrote:
Hello, can anyone please tell me which tv brand is more accessible? My
mom has a ten year old tv in the living room about 40 inches and she has
a smaller tv in her room! I do not think either have a sap channel on
the tv! I know the living room tv does not have a built in antenna and
it is not hd ready! I want a tv for my room because, I want to maybe get
the apple tv but, my mom does not want to use it so, I have to get my
own tv set. But, if I get a tv, I want it to be accessible with the sap
channel and easy to use minues! I was thinking maybe the tv would have
an app so I can use my phone to run the tv set! Thanks, Heather


MyWeigh Vox 300 scale and error message

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So I was wondering if anyone who may also  have this model talking  scale knows how to get rid of the  error message or otherwise re-set it?

This is my second model as the first one crapped out  on me and at that time, I didn’t  know what I did  with the warranty card.

I do have all  the paperwork for this one in case I need to send it in, but was hoping that someone knew of a way to get out of this mode without the hassle of having  to  send  it out to be fixed.

Other than  the four buttons on the scale, there doesn’t seem  to be any other type of switch or button to reset the device. It turns  on fine and  does announce the  “Hello” message, but when it comes time to  weigh  something, there’s a beep and the display says “error” according to my  sighted better half.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 


Re: looking for an accessible tv

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

This may worth reading:
An Evaluation of the Samsung UN50H6400 TelevisionAugust 2014
http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw150803

On 8/28/2016 9:01 AM, heather albright wrote:
Hello, can anyone please tell me which tv brand is more accessible? My
mom has a ten year old tv in the living room about 40 inches and she has
a smaller tv in her room! I do not think either have a sap channel on
the tv! I know the living room tv does not have a built in antenna and
it is not hd ready! I want a tv for my room because, I want to maybe get
the apple tv but, my mom does not want to use it so, I have to get my
own tv set. But, if I get a tv, I want it to be accessible with the sap
channel and easy to use minues! I was thinking maybe the tv would have
an app so I can use my phone to run the tv set! Thanks, Heather


looking for an accessible tv

heather albright
 

Hello, can anyone please tell me which tv brand is more accessible? My mom has a ten year old tv in the living room about 40 inches and she has a smaller tv in her room!  I do not think either have a sap channel on the tv! I know the living room tv does not have a built in antenna and it is not hd ready! I want a tv for my room because, I want to maybe get the apple tv but, my mom does not want to use it so, I have to get my own tv set.  But, if I get a tv, I want it to be accessible with the sap channel and easy to use minues! I was thinking maybe the tv would have an app so I can use my phone to run the tv set! Thanks, Heather


using mobile facebook page/not seeing private messages anymore

joanne
 

Hi.  I used to get any Facebook private messages and all notifications in my email in box, so I     was a surprised to find messages in a messages link on m.facebook.com, but these messages never came to my email as they did before.  Some notifications such as birthdays do still come via email but it says there are 71 notifications so I know I am missing quite a few of those.  The messages really concern me because I want to get them all via email as before.  I do get replies to public posts I responded to.  As soon as I respond I'll get others' replies.  So the message thing is perplexing and I hope someone can help.
 
Using Jaws 16 and 17 with windows 7 home.
 
Thanks.
 
Joanne
 


Re: Learning how to use Imap

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

You're not doing anything wrong. I believe this actually occurs when using Windows Live Mail with GMail. At least I am not having this issue with Thunderbird.
HTH.

On 8/27/2016 8:44 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi everyone,

I recently switch from pop3 to imap with a new Gmail account.

I have loads of questions but, for now, I am having trouble using imap
with WLM.

I want to be able to delete or move messages and folders whenn I am not
on line. I can’t do any of these things because I keep getting nagged
with a message that says something like, the host imap server could not
be found. Even when I arrow through folders, I get the same message.

When I turn air plane mode off, everything works right. But, I thought
I could still work with messages and folders with an imap account when
in air plane mode.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

James



Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Peter Spitz
 

I keep my tower in my spare bedroom, on the floor. With a Bluetooth headset and wireless keyboard, I can sit anywhere in the house, and even outside on the patio, and use the computer. If I want to use my expensive corded headphones to listen to high fidelity music, I just go into the spare room and sit on a love seat that I put next to the tower. Most of the time, I just sit in my living room or lay in my bed and use the Bluetooth headphones and wireless keyboard.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

That sounds like something worth looking for, especially if I ever have to scale down. It would be nice now, since we are bulging crowded.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I've seen so many computer desks that are these giant things; sometimes l-shaped and all. I didn't have room for anything like that in this crowded apartment. The one we were in when we got this was even smaller and more crowded. So, I found this thing that is called a Euro-cart. It has the top part, a keyboard shelf that slides in and out, a printer shelf that is underneath that can slide out, and the bottom shelf. To the left of the part that has all that is a place made to hold a tower, and above that is a shelf that looks like it's for software. I have my cable modem on that, and right now, a package of cds. When I was telling somebody about my computer table, that it was small, and that it's called a Euro-cart, he said: "Oh yes. In Europ, they have small things like that". Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I miss the desk I had before my stroke when I still was with my idiot ex boyfriend. It had a little shelf for my tower, a rollout shelf for my keyboard and mouse and plenty of desktop space for my flat screen monitor and the random crap I kept on my desk, lol.
I like my desk now. It is a corner desk with two shelves above the main desk part, but I don't keep anything on there the fax machine that is never used it there along with the cable modem. The bottom part of the desk, which is off of the floor, has my tower, the mini fan I have for it and the surge protector and cords on it.I can put my feet up on it, but I tend to sit cross legged most of the time. I think I need a more comfortable chair, but I don't have much room in my bedroom for a bigger chair.

On 8/27/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:
I don't mind the size of my tower, because my computer table has a
space specifically made for a tower. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Good grief that is small and here I have this giant tower. At least
monitors aren't 50lbs monsters any more.
On 8/27/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Sorry, I was thinking of the Intel Compute Stick,
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-st
ick.html but there are quite a few other pocket sized PCs these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


Dell has a PC the size of a flash drive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


tell me about it a freaking computer with nice specs the size of a
VHS tape, then again how many of the youngings know what a VHS tape
is nowadays? lol

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
It is a forever changing world that we live in. Somehow, it seems
that as more time goes on, the faster the changes are.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf

Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

It seems like that's always the way. You find somebody who Is
good, and then they either move, or they get too busy with work
and can't do it anymore, or whatever. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I have a tech who I could ask to help me, he helped me with this
computer when I got it, but I'm not sure how much it would cost me
to do the whole shebang so to speak.
I'm sad that the guy I had found years ago who had a home business
moved

to
freaking arizona. He was awesome.

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I am glad to have that clarified. She got a laptop; I'd prefer a
desktop.

I
will keep them in mind, if the time comes for me to have to
replace, which, in all probability, it will.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


CFB charges a nominal fee of $110 for a refurbished desktop
computer and
$130 for a refurbed laptop. You are permitted to request one
computer per year.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Melissa, have you contacted:
Computers for the Blind
214-340-6328

They are located in Garland, Texas and provide refurbished
computers with NVDA for, I believe it is $127. A friend of mine
in Houston got one, and the computer guy at her church updated it
from 7 to 10 for her. She has been very pleased with it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would
mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting
off getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it
off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't
need something all powerful since I usually use my computer for
word processing types of things and the internet. I don't use my
computer to listen to music or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking
a SSD drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I
can't think of anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible
to do maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

No Mike, I'll move it for him!!  He just has to fly me over there in a private jet.  Last I checked, and I won't say where I did my checking, he has several of these, <LOL>!!

 

Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado


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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Pam, I can't say much about all European countries since I am damn too lazy
to get to several; however, I once stayed in a house in Hounslow, Middlesex,
England, not to far away from Heathro Airport. The house was small and so
was the kitchen. It was hard for two people to stand in the kitchen without
running into each other.

I was in a London apartment in 2014 and it was the same story. In fact, the
apartment was even smaller. One has to be extremely organised especially
when it has to do with arranging things meticulously.

Compared to what we have in the United States, the microwave ovens and
refrigerators were extremely small. The street sidewalks (pavement) are
narrow as well; cars are more compact than what obtains here in the States.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

If you follow English football, truly played with the feet for 45 nonstop
minutes except for injuries in each half for a total of 90 minutes, you'd
have learned about a yellow card! It is a WARNING card which tells the
player to whom it has been shown that a repeat of what was done wrong may
result in a RED card. It is used at the referee's discretion. Two yellow
cards issued to the same player equals one RED card.

When a player gets a RED card, such a one MUST LEAVE the field of play at
once! The DEPARTING player CANNOT BE REPLACED with another. In FOOTBALL,
there are 11 players on both sides of the field. So, if one player leaves
after receiving a RED card, that player's team will now have to play the
game with 10 players. This means double duty for defenders or forward
liners.

That which is FOOTBALL in Britain, the rest of Europe and much of the world
is what in American English is referred to as "soccer".

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Sis Melissa, do you have a Microcenter close by? If yes, can you possibly
visit one and play with computers to your heart's content before settling on
one? I'm sure you can grab a REFURBISHED desktop or laptop at a reasonable
price at Microcenter. They generally offer a 14-day return on refurbished
computers.

I bought my Windows7 Professional 64Bit laptop from this company five years
ago. It is a Sony Vaio; original price was $899.99, but I grabbed it for
$359.95! It is a refurbished computer and I have never looked back. I
leave this thing on 24 hours a day, never turn it off for any reason except
when there is a power outage in which case it automatically switches off
anyway, and when I am leaving town for longer than a week or two. I don't
even have a cooling pad for this thing, it just works and I am a very, very
happy camper with this laptop.

At Microcenter, I believe you can tell the folks you want a computer that
runs Windows7 and they'll do what they can to help.

Yes, there are some Sony bloatware on this computer; I have deleted most of
them with no problems, but I do have a few more to get rid off. And yes, if
I so choose, I can upgrade to the next version of Windows whenever I am
ready for it. It does come with a Windows Anytime upgrade; I confess that I
have not paid attention to the rules for availing myself of the anytime
upgrade. But, since Windows7 Professional is NOT broken, let it keep having
fun and I'll cross the next GOLDEN GATE bridge after I buy it off of San
Francisco.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Learning how to use Imap

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

Hi everyone,
 
I recently switch from pop3 to imap with a new Gmail account.
 
I have loads of questions but, for now, I am having trouble using imap with WLM.
 
I want to be able to delete or move messages and folders whenn I am not on line.  I can’t do any of these things because I keep getting nagged with a message that says something like, the host imap server could not be found.  Even when I arrow through folders, I get the same message.
 
When I turn air plane mode off, everything works right.  But, I thought I could still work with messages and folders with an imap account when in air plane mode.
 
What am I doing wrong?
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
 


Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Carolyn Arnold
 

That sounds like something worth looking for, especially if I ever have to scale down. It would be nice now, since we are bulging crowded.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I've seen so many computer desks that are these giant things; sometimes l-shaped and all. I didn't have room for anything like that in this crowded apartment. The one we were in when we got this was even smaller and more crowded. So, I found this thing that is called a Euro-cart. It has the top part, a keyboard shelf that slides in and out, a printer shelf that is underneath that can slide out, and the bottom shelf. To the left of the part that has all that is a place made to hold a tower, and above that is a shelf that looks like it's for software. I have my cable modem on that, and right now, a package of cds. When I was telling somebody about my computer table, that it was small, and that it's called a Euro-cart, he said: "Oh yes. In Europ, they have small things like that". Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I miss the desk I had before my stroke when I still was with my idiot ex boyfriend. It had a little shelf for my tower, a rollout shelf for my keyboard and mouse and plenty of desktop space for my flat screen monitor and the random crap I kept on my desk, lol.
I like my desk now. It is a corner desk with two shelves above the main desk part, but I don't keep anything on there the fax machine that is never used it there along with the cable modem. The bottom part of the desk, which is off of the floor, has my tower, the mini fan I have for it and the surge protector and cords on it.I can put my feet up on it, but I tend to sit cross legged most of the time. I think I need a more comfortable chair, but I don't have much room in my bedroom for a bigger chair.

On 8/27/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:
I don't mind the size of my tower, because my computer table has a
space specifically made for a tower. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Good grief that is small and here I have this giant tower. At least
monitors aren't 50lbs monsters any more.
On 8/27/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Sorry, I was thinking of the Intel Compute Stick,
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-st
ick.html but there are quite a few other pocket sized PCs these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


Dell has a PC the size of a flash drive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


tell me about it a freaking computer with nice specs the size of a
VHS tape, then again how many of the youngings know what a VHS tape
is nowadays? lol

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
It is a forever changing world that we live in. Somehow, it seems
that as more time goes on, the faster the changes are.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf

Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

It seems like that's always the way. You find somebody who Is
good, and then they either move, or they get too busy with work
and can't do it anymore, or whatever. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I have a tech who I could ask to help me, he helped me with this
computer when I got it, but I'm not sure how much it would cost me
to do the whole shebang so to speak.
I'm sad that the guy I had found years ago who had a home business
moved

to
freaking arizona. He was awesome.

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I am glad to have that clarified. She got a laptop; I'd prefer a
desktop.

I
will keep them in mind, if the time comes for me to have to replace,
which, in all probability, it will.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


CFB charges a nominal fee of $110 for a refurbished desktop computer
and
$130 for a refurbed laptop. You are permitted to request one
computer
per
year.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Melissa, have you contacted:
Computers for the Blind
214-340-6328

They are located in Garland, Texas and provide refurbished computers
with
NVDA for, I believe it is $127. A friend of mine in Houston got one,
and
the
computer guy at her church updated it from 7 to 10 for her. She has
been
very pleased with it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf
Of
Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer.
It
would
mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a working
computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting off getting
my
divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some entries
for
a
"mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need something all
powerful
since I usually use my computer for word processing types of things
and
the
internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will
last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance
on
it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa


















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