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Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Just call 1-800-DELIVER.  LOL 
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions

Technical aptitude is in part a knack just like anything else.  If someone
asked me to make breakfast, we would have a problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <melissa.j.hammitt@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


>I think maybe he was meaning how sometimes people with site assume
> blind people aren't that smart.
> Personally the fact that you are blind and know so much about
> computers floors me since I can't imagine it. Maybe it is because I
> was born with sight and only lost it a few years ago so that my
> thought processes are stuck in "find the visual route first" mode.
> When I was walking my mom through getting my computer to boot from USB
> I just wondered how the hell you did it.
> On 8/27/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
>> I don't believe anyone thinks or was implying that anyone else is stupid.
>> People were simply offering alternatives which is the point of the list.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84@...>
>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
>> questions
>>
>>
>>> Yes. People think we are stupid... This is unfortunate. At least Melissa
>>> pointed she really do not want a cheap computer. Maybe 1 wanted to eat
>>> $100 and send nothing then.
>>>
>>> On 8/27/2016 3:06 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>> Man, you guys really got busy in the time I couldn't get to my
>>>> computer. While I was playing catch up I had hit the DL for the link
>>>> Edmund posted and have been downloading it ... I hope it is the right
>>>> one for me. After catching up I feel bad for all of the trouble y'all
>>>> went through. Though I am hoping someone else can also make use of
>>>> what you came up with.
>>>> Makes me wish I had asked sooner to get help but it is that stupid
>>>> pride thing that pops up when it comes to asking for help with
>>>> something. I should know by now that it shouldn't matter with you
>>>> guys. (especially after seeing how most of you are to other community
>>>> members over the years)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/27/16, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Melissa,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you will e-mail me off list I can give you some information as to
>>>>> where
>>>>> you can purchase a mini-desk computer for $100.  This is not from
>>>>> Computers
>>>>> for the Blind, although they also sell computers for $100.  My e-mail
>>>>> address is:
>>>>>
>>>>> veronicaa.kirk@...
>>>>>
>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>
>>>>> Of
>>>>> Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 PM
>>>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
>>>>> questions
>>>>>
>>>>> This is true for retail keys. A retail key is not given to you when
>>>>> you
>>>>>
>>>>> buy
>>>>> a machine with Windows 7 pre-installed. Same for Windows Vista. Same
>>>>> for
>>>>> Windows XP. Yes things got easier when Windows 8 arrived, so the key
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>> now
>>>>> integrated in the BIOS. I won't change on it, just hope one can
>>>>> activate
>>>>> their Windows!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/26/2016 6:59 PM, Carlos wrote:
>>>>>> Then you should already know that COA stands for certificate of
>>>>>> authenticity and any machine which comes with Windows 7 preinstalled
>>>>>> from a legitimate manufacturer will include one.  Further more, the
>>>>>> product key on this sticker will always allow you to activate a clean
>>>>>> installation.  This was changed starting with Windows 8 where the
>>>>>> product key is stored in the BIOS.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
>>>>>> <gocloud84@...>
>>>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:49 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos. Why you are urging this please? Once cannot activate such
>>>>>>> installations without proper certificate install.
>>>>>>> It's my job here I am doing it at least once or twice in a week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/26/2016 6:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>>> If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
>>>>>>>> sticker, we could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you
>>>>>>>> could use to perform a clean installation.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
>>>>>>>> <melissa.j.hammitt@...>
>>>>>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my
>>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>> tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
>>>>>>>>> site to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After
>>>>>>>>> having to re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> error:
>>>>>>>>> Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
>>>>>>>>> for the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
>>>>>>>>> Tag or contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
>>>>>>>>> bad so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
>>>>>>>>> I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
>>>>>>>>> my mind off of this frustration.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Melissa
>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> COA key sticker.  On desktops it is usually on the side or the
>>>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>>>> of the case.
>>>>>>>>>> With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Melissa" <melissa.j.hammitt@...>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
>>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
>>>>>>>>>>> of amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
>>>>>>>>>>> because I don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my
>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>> It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
>>>>>>>>>>> any extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled
>>>>>>>>>>> them who freaking knows.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
>>>>>>>>>>> decision (very long story there)  to try and see if I could do
>>>>>>>>>>> some freelance transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my
>>>>>>>>>>> computer ends up being a total ass hat.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Walking away from computer before I throw something.
>>>>>>>>>>> TTFN
>>>>>>>>>>> Melissa
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
>>>>>>>>>>> <gocloud84@...>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
>>>>>>>>>>>> fix the issues but it's not easy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are gambling...<Smile>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7.  In some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases, modifying ei.cfg will allow the image to work with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups.io"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gocloud84@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with any key I tried.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a COA key sticker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups.io"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gocloud84@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not worry at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will send you a download link.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't help me with that. I will have to get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service tag number, my computer is a dell, and go through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their site to try and get a copy of windows 7 and since my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer is out of warranty I might get charged for it, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting to sleep when I want, lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gocloud84@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used, however?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still trying to understand what you want to download?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not work with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you want?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Home and Student version?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confirm these, and we'll try to help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password that I had used to make my windows 7 image. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always use a variant of a few things when I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to get the password from the image?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to windows 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do a clean install, which is probably a good thing to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a download of Office 07, even though I have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key. I use word and excel a lot and don't use the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tools. I'm guessing I would have to contact microsoft
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility for that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The product key you entered appears to be for software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the device manufacturer for software recovery options.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows 7 for my old ass computer?? I don't even think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they offer support for my model , opti plex 745.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down a sightling to get the service tag number from my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tower before I can download their media creation crap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus, since my computer is way out of warranty there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be a "fee" associated with that and getting help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 64 bit, without the crapware, that I had when I bought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Melissa,
 
If you need the ISO file, I've got it saved on SendSpace, just let the list or myself know.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions

Man, you guys really got busy in the time I couldn't get to my
computer. While I was playing catch up I had hit the DL for the link
Edmund posted and have been downloading it ... I hope it is the right
one for me. After catching up I feel bad for all of the trouble y'all
went through. Though I am hoping someone else can also make use of
what you came up with.
Makes me wish I had asked sooner to get help but it is that stupid
pride thing that pops up when it comes to asking for help with
something. I should know by now that it shouldn't matter with you
guys. (especially after seeing how most of you are to other community
members over the years)








On 8/27/16, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:
> Hi Melissa,
>
> If you will e-mail me off list I can give you some information as to where
> you can purchase a mini-desk computer for $100.  This is not from Computers
> for the Blind, although they also sell computers for $100.  My e-mail
> address is:
>
> veronicaa.kirk@...
>
> Veronica
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions
>
> This is true for retail keys. A retail key is not given to you when you buy
> a machine with Windows 7 pre-installed. Same for Windows Vista. Same for
> Windows XP. Yes things got easier when Windows 8 arrived, so the key is now
> integrated in the BIOS. I won't change on it, just hope one can activate
> their Windows!
>
>
> On 8/26/2016 6:59 PM, Carlos wrote:
>> Then you should already know that COA stands for certificate of
>> authenticity and any machine which comes with Windows 7 preinstalled
>> from a legitimate manufacturer will include one.  Further more, the
>> product key on this sticker will always allow you to activate a clean
>> installation.  This was changed starting with Windows 8 where the
>> product key is stored in the BIOS.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
>> <gocloud84@...>
>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
>> questions
>>
>>
>>> Carlos. Why you are urging this please? Once cannot activate such
>>> installations without proper certificate install.
>>> It's my job here I am doing it at least once or twice in a week.
>>>
>>> On 8/26/2016 6:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
>>>> If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
>>>> sticker, we could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you
>>>> could use to perform a clean installation.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
>>>> <melissa.j.hammitt@...>
>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
>>>> questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
>>>>> tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
>>>>> site to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After
>>>>> having to re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
>>>>> error:
>>>>> Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
>>>>> Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
>>>>> for the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
>>>>> Tag or contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
>>>>> bad so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
>>>>> I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
>>>>> my mind off of this frustration.
>>>>>
>>>>> Melissa
>>>>> On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
>>>>>> Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
>>>>>> COA key sticker.  On desktops it is usually on the side or the top
>>>>>> of the case.
>>>>>> With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Melissa" <melissa.j.hammitt@...>
>>>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
>>>>>>> of amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
>>>>>>> because I don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
>>>>>>> It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
>>>>>>> any extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled
>>>>>>> them who freaking knows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
>>>>>>> decision (very long story there)  to try and see if I could do
>>>>>>> some freelance transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my
>>>>>>> computer ends up being a total ass hat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Walking away from computer before I throw something.
>>>>>>> TTFN
>>>>>>> Melissa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
>>>>>>> <gocloud84@...>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
>>>>>>>> fix the issues but it's not easy.
>>>>>>>> We are gambling...<Smile>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
>>>>>>>>> cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7.  In some
>>>>>>>>> cases, modifying ei.cfg will allow the image to work with an
>>>>>>>>> OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
>>>>>>>>> <gocloud84@...>
>>>>>>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
>>>>>>>>> up questions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
>>>>>>>>>> Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work
>>>>>>>>>> with any key I tried.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
>>>>>>>>>>> However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
>>>>>>>>>>> preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key
>>>>>>>>>>> on a COA key sticker.
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
>>>>>>>>>>> Groups.io"
>>>>>>>>>>> <gocloud84@...>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
>>>>>>>>>>> up questions
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not worry at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> will send you a download link.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't help me with that. I will have to get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service tag number, my computer is a dell, and go through
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their site to try and get a copy of windows 7 and since my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer is out of warranty I might get charged for it, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting to sleep when I want, lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gocloud84@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used, however?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still trying to understand what you want to download?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not work with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you want?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Home and Student version?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confirm these, and we'll try to help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password that I had used to make my windows 7 image. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always use a variant of a few things when I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to get the password from the image?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to windows 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do a clean install, which is probably a good thing to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a download of Office 07, even though I have the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key. I use word and excel a lot and don't use the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tools. I'm guessing I would have to contact microsoft
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility for that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The product key you entered appears to be for software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the device manufacturer for software recovery options.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows 7 for my old ass computer?? I don't even think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they offer support for my model , opti plex 745.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down a sightling to get the service tag number from my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tower before I can download their media creation crap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus, since my computer is way out of warranty there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be a "fee" associated with that and getting help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 64 bit, without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Pamela Dominguez
 

It seems like that's always the way. You find somebody who Is good, and then they either move, or they get too busy with work and can't do it anymore, or whatever. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I have a tech who I could ask to help me, he helped me with this
computer when I got it, but I'm not sure how much it would cost me to
do the whole shebang so to speak.
I'm sad that the guy I had found years ago who had a home business
moved to freaking arizona. He was awesome.

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I am glad to have that clarified. She got a laptop; I'd prefer a desktop. I
will keep them in mind, if the time comes for me to have to replace, which,
in all probability, it will.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


CFB charges a nominal fee of $110 for a refurbished desktop computer and
$130 for a refurbed laptop. You are permitted to request one computer per
year.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Melissa, have you contacted:
Computers for the Blind
214-340-6328

They are located in Garland, Texas and provide refurbished computers with
NVDA for, I believe it is $127. A friend of mine in Houston got one, and the
computer guy at her church updated it from 7 to 10 for her. She has been
very pleased with it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer. It would
mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a working
computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting off getting my
divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some entries for a
"mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need something all powerful
since I usually use my computer for word processing types of things and the
internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that will
last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do maintenance on
it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Pamela Dominguez
 

Okay, thanks. I don't know why I got the non-answer I did from that other guy. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

'Yellow card' is football (or perhaps mainly soccer) parlance, as in, you
get a yellow card when you're booked for a first-time offence; and a red
card for the second offence, at which point you're sent off the field of
play for the remainder of the game.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Whatever it is you won't get it. Ed.

On 8/27/2016 12:08 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
She didn't say "cash". She said "cast offs". Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I can't mail cash, <LOL>! but we can think about other available gifting
options...:)

On 8/26/2016 8:34 PM, Melissa wrote:
yeah, yeah, then send me your cast-offs, lol

On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
Hey now, if you're giving away machines, may I build it and send you the
bill? :P

My credit card would be quite appreciative, me thinks. :)


On 8/26/2016 10:08 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
Carlos, is this really your current machine? What if I build and gift
you a new one...<LOL>!

On 8/26/2016 8:06 PM, Carlos wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted
about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but
still a PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have
ever owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now.
I'd definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or
that
can be downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up
being to difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super
bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak
to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for
word processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess
it'd
work pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220,
upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased later down the road and
installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience
with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1





however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8





As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it,
but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want
& with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer. It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been
putting off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being
nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

Technical aptitude is in part a knack just like anything else. If someone asked me to make breakfast, we would have a problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


I think maybe he was meaning how sometimes people with site assume
blind people aren't that smart.
Personally the fact that you are blind and know so much about
computers floors me since I can't imagine it. Maybe it is because I
was born with sight and only lost it a few years ago so that my
thought processes are stuck in "find the visual route first" mode.
When I was walking my mom through getting my computer to boot from USB
I just wondered how the hell you did it.
On 8/27/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
I don't believe anyone thinks or was implying that anyone else is stupid.
People were simply offering alternatives which is the point of the list.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Yes. People think we are stupid... This is unfortunate. At least Melissa
pointed she really do not want a cheap computer. Maybe 1 wanted to eat
$100 and send nothing then.

On 8/27/2016 3:06 PM, Melissa wrote:
Man, you guys really got busy in the time I couldn't get to my
computer. While I was playing catch up I had hit the DL for the link
Edmund posted and have been downloading it ... I hope it is the right
one for me. After catching up I feel bad for all of the trouble y'all
went through. Though I am hoping someone else can also make use of
what you came up with.
Makes me wish I had asked sooner to get help but it is that stupid
pride thing that pops up when it comes to asking for help with
something. I should know by now that it shouldn't matter with you
guys. (especially after seeing how most of you are to other community
members over the years)








On 8/27/16, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

If you will e-mail me off list I can give you some information as to
where
you can purchase a mini-desk computer for $100. This is not from
Computers
for the Blind, although they also sell computers for $100. My e-mail
address is:

veronicaa.kirk@...

Veronica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf

Of
Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions

This is true for retail keys. A retail key is not given to you when you

buy
a machine with Windows 7 pre-installed. Same for Windows Vista. Same
for
Windows XP. Yes things got easier when Windows 8 arrived, so the key is

now
integrated in the BIOS. I won't change on it, just hope one can
activate
their Windows!


On 8/26/2016 6:59 PM, Carlos wrote:
Then you should already know that COA stands for certificate of
authenticity and any machine which comes with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a legitimate manufacturer will include one. Further more, the
product key on this sticker will always allow you to activate a clean
installation. This was changed starting with Windows 8 where the
product key is stored in the BIOS.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Carlos. Why you are urging this please? Once cannot activate such
installations without proper certificate install.
It's my job here I am doing it at least once or twice in a week.

On 8/26/2016 6:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker, we could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you
could use to perform a clean installation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
<@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After
having to re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got
this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag or contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA key sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top
of the case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because I don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my
computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled
them who freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision (very long story there) to try and see if I could do
some freelance transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my
computer ends up being a total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix the issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some
cases, modifying ei.cfg will allow the image to work with an
OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work
with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key
on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will send you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and
that they can't help me with that. I will have to get the
service tag number, my computer is a dell, and go through
their site to try and get a copy of windows 7 and since my
computer is out of warranty I might get charged for it, I
don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting to sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you used, however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do not work with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do
you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password that I had used to make my windows 7 image. I
always use a variant of a few things when I make
passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a way to get the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do a clean install, which is probably a good thing to do
anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get a download of Office 07, even though I have the right
key. I use word and excel a lot and don't use the other
tools. I'm guessing I would have to contact microsoft
accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact
the device manufacturer for software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows 7 for my old ass computer?? I don't even think
they offer support for my model , opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down a sightling to get the service tag number from my
tower before I can download their media creation crap.
Plus, since my computer is way out of warranty there
might be a "fee" associated with that and getting help
for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64 bit, without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?































Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Flor Lynch
 

Oh, for anyone who wanted to know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

For "Pam".

On 8/27/2016 3:16 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
'Yellow card' is football (or perhaps mainly soccer) parlance, as in,
you get a yellow card when you're booked for a first-time offence; and a
red card for the second offence, at which point you're sent off the
field of play for the remainder of the game.

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Whatever it is you won't get it. Ed.

On 8/27/2016 12:08 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
She didn't say "cash". She said "cast offs". Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I can't mail cash, <LOL>! but we can think about other available gifting
options...:)

On 8/26/2016 8:34 PM, Melissa wrote:
yeah, yeah, then send me your cast-offs, lol

On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
Hey now, if you're giving away machines, may I build it and send you
the
bill? :P

My credit card would be quite appreciative, me thinks. :)


On 8/26/2016 10:08 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
Carlos, is this really your current machine? What if I build and gift
you a new one...<LOL>!

On 8/26/2016 8:06 PM, Carlos wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted
about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but
still a PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have
ever owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years
now.
I'd definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or
that
can be downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up
being to difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super
bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak
to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for
word processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess
it'd
work pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220,
upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased later down the road and
installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience
with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1






however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8






As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in
hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it,
but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or
10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you
want
& with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer. It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been
putting off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being
nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

 

I think maybe he was meaning how sometimes people with site assume
blind people aren't that smart.
Personally the fact that you are blind and know so much about
computers floors me since I can't imagine it. Maybe it is because I
was born with sight and only lost it a few years ago so that my
thought processes are stuck in "find the visual route first" mode.
When I was walking my mom through getting my computer to boot from USB
I just wondered how the hell you did it.

On 8/27/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
I don't believe anyone thinks or was implying that anyone else is stupid.
People were simply offering alternatives which is the point of the list.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Yes. People think we are stupid... This is unfortunate. At least Melissa
pointed she really do not want a cheap computer. Maybe 1 wanted to eat
$100 and send nothing then.

On 8/27/2016 3:06 PM, Melissa wrote:
Man, you guys really got busy in the time I couldn't get to my
computer. While I was playing catch up I had hit the DL for the link
Edmund posted and have been downloading it ... I hope it is the right
one for me. After catching up I feel bad for all of the trouble y'all
went through. Though I am hoping someone else can also make use of
what you came up with.
Makes me wish I had asked sooner to get help but it is that stupid
pride thing that pops up when it comes to asking for help with
something. I should know by now that it shouldn't matter with you
guys. (especially after seeing how most of you are to other community
members over the years)








On 8/27/16, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

If you will e-mail me off list I can give you some information as to
where
you can purchase a mini-desk computer for $100. This is not from
Computers
for the Blind, although they also sell computers for $100. My e-mail
address is:

veronicaa.kirk@...

Veronica

-----Original Message-----
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Of
Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions

This is true for retail keys. A retail key is not given to you when you

buy
a machine with Windows 7 pre-installed. Same for Windows Vista. Same
for
Windows XP. Yes things got easier when Windows 8 arrived, so the key is

now
integrated in the BIOS. I won't change on it, just hope one can
activate
their Windows!


On 8/26/2016 6:59 PM, Carlos wrote:
Then you should already know that COA stands for certificate of
authenticity and any machine which comes with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a legitimate manufacturer will include one. Further more, the
product key on this sticker will always allow you to activate a clean
installation. This was changed starting with Windows 8 where the
product key is stored in the BIOS.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Carlos. Why you are urging this please? Once cannot activate such
installations without proper certificate install.
It's my job here I am doing it at least once or twice in a week.

On 8/26/2016 6:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker, we could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you
could use to perform a clean installation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
<@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After
having to re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got
this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag or contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA key sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top
of the case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because I don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my
computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled
them who freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision (very long story there) to try and see if I could do
some freelance transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my
computer ends up being a total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix the issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some
cases, modifying ei.cfg will allow the image to work with an
OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work
with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product
key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key
on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will send you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and
that they can't help me with that. I will have to get the
service tag number, my computer is a dell, and go through
their site to try and get a copy of windows 7 and since my
computer is out of warranty I might get charged for it, I
don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting to sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you used, however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do not work with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do
you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password that I had used to make my windows 7 image. I
always use a variant of a few things when I make
passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a way to get the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do a clean install, which is probably a good thing to do
anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get a download of Office 07, even though I have the right
key. I use word and excel a lot and don't use the other
tools. I'm guessing I would have to contact microsoft
accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact
the device manufacturer for software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows 7 for my old ass computer?? I don't even think
they offer support for my model , opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down a sightling to get the service tag number from my
tower before I can download their media creation crap.
Plus, since my computer is way out of warranty there
might be a "fee" associated with that and getting help
for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64 bit, without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?































Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

Yes. It's soccer actually. Thanks for pointing.

On 8/27/2016 3:29 PM, Melissa wrote:
I had an idea that it had to do with soccer or something. I'm thinking
English might not be his first language, but what do I know?

On 8/27/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:
I don't know what he's talking about when he says "yellow cards". Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Bowers
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Hi Edmund,

Let me get this straight, you're saying that if you tell something better,
then yellow cards will continue to come?

You seem like a good guy, but I'm spending too much time trying to figure
out your esoteric messages.

That's my fault--not yours.

Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

That one is fine for the price. If I tell something better, then yellow
cards will continue to come.

On 8/26/2016 9:12 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I can't disagree that using a USB type sound card may offer the
ability to have working sound in 10, especially if driver support may
be less than friendly for her computer, but I'm not sure I'd say that it's

a fix.


Unless I'm really misunderstanding what you're suggesting, I cringe at
the thought that I'd have to solely rely on an external sound card,
just to have working sound.


Using an external sound card for the PE isn't all that bad, but for my
installation that I use every day, I'd find that to be quite
frustrating, me thinks.

Forgive if you meant something different, that's just how I read things.
hehe


On 8/26/2016 10:50 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
That issue can be fixable.
Do you have a USB headset? Hope you know what it is... LOL!

On 8/26/2016 8:36 PM, Melissa wrote:
Yes and so far, I hope and hope, that is my only issue. I have not
found any resolution for the error I'm getting and the Dell site
tells me that they don't offer windows 10 support for my model.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Will take a look at this. So you have a Dell OptiPlex 755?
Here I can imagine what's your issue but let's make sure.

On 8/26/2016 8:09 PM, Melissa wrote:
The main issue that I have is that there is no updated sound
drivers and I keep getting a dialog box on restart/boot up that
tells me that the sound is not meant for this soft ware version.
I've looked everywhere, it seems, for a fix for this, but I
haven't found anything about it.
When I go to look at hardware and devices it says that my
soundcard is working fine though.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
It's not bad at all. It can run what you want. I'd try to move to
Windows 10, unless there's a really issue.
If you have problem we can try to help. There are users who just
do not like Windows 10 but you should be fine.

On 8/26/2016 7:48 PM, Melissa wrote:
Thanks for your opinion. It sounds weird, but I kinda like the
name lenovo, maybe it is a girl thing, lol.
To compare, my present computer:
Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
2.67 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
64 kilobyte
I think it is 4 gb of ram

So I'm thinking almost anything will be faster, hah.


On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've
really grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so
years now. I'd definitely stick with a machine that either
comes with 7 or that can be downgraded, without to much
trouble, but if that ends up being to difficult, having to
change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just
want it for word processing and tinkering about on the
interwebs, I'd guess it'd work pretty well. Just as reference,
my machine is the x220, upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased
later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's
been a long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them
these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I
most likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was
thinking buying used again off of amazon since I've had good
experience with doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my
experience is with a computer that doesn't play well with
windows 10 so a more updated computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_tt
l?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=
1


however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_tt
l?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8


As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not
so low as to get a computer that would only last me for a year
or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly
they don't sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop
regarding computer stuff since I lost my site and now could
care less if the computer is powerful enough to run photoshop
or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in
hard drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that
is it, but I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or
10, laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you
want & with what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a working computer to actually make moneyand well I've
been putting off getting my divorce for this long I'm
thinking I can put it off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I
don't need something all powerful since I usually use my
computer for word processing types of things and the
internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music or
movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a SSD drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy
importante, and I can't think of anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on
something that will last for a while, not for forever, and it
be possible to do maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being nuerotic.


Melissa






















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Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

I don't believe anyone thinks or was implying that anyone else is stupid. People were simply offering alternatives which is the point of the list.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Yes. People think we are stupid... This is unfortunate. At least Melissa pointed she really do not want a cheap computer. Maybe 1 wanted to eat $100 and send nothing then.

On 8/27/2016 3:06 PM, Melissa wrote:
Man, you guys really got busy in the time I couldn't get to my
computer. While I was playing catch up I had hit the DL for the link
Edmund posted and have been downloading it ... I hope it is the right
one for me. After catching up I feel bad for all of the trouble y'all
went through. Though I am hoping someone else can also make use of
what you came up with.
Makes me wish I had asked sooner to get help but it is that stupid
pride thing that pops up when it comes to asking for help with
something. I should know by now that it shouldn't matter with you
guys. (especially after seeing how most of you are to other community
members over the years)








On 8/27/16, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

If you will e-mail me off list I can give you some information as to where
you can purchase a mini-desk computer for $100. This is not from Computers
for the Blind, although they also sell computers for $100. My e-mail
address is:

veronicaa.kirk@...

Veronica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions

This is true for retail keys. A retail key is not given to you when you buy
a machine with Windows 7 pre-installed. Same for Windows Vista. Same for
Windows XP. Yes things got easier when Windows 8 arrived, so the key is now
integrated in the BIOS. I won't change on it, just hope one can activate
their Windows!


On 8/26/2016 6:59 PM, Carlos wrote:
Then you should already know that COA stands for certificate of
authenticity and any machine which comes with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a legitimate manufacturer will include one. Further more, the
product key on this sticker will always allow you to activate a clean
installation. This was changed starting with Windows 8 where the
product key is stored in the BIOS.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Carlos. Why you are urging this please? Once cannot activate such
installations without proper certificate install.
It's my job here I am doing it at least once or twice in a week.

On 8/26/2016 6:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker, we could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you
could use to perform a clean installation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
<@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After
having to re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag or contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA key sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top
of the case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because I don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled
them who freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision (very long story there) to try and see if I could do
some freelance transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my
computer ends up being a total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix the issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some
cases, modifying ei.cfg will allow the image to work with an
OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work
with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key
on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will send you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and
that they can't help me with that. I will have to get the
service tag number, my computer is a dell, and go through
their site to try and get a copy of windows 7 and since my
computer is out of warranty I might get charged for it, I
don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting to sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you used, however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do not work with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do
you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password that I had used to make my windows 7 image. I
always use a variant of a few things when I make
passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a way to get the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do a clean install, which is probably a good thing to do
anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get a download of Office 07, even though I have the right
key. I use word and excel a lot and don't use the other
tools. I'm guessing I would have to contact microsoft
accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact
the device manufacturer for software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows 7 for my old ass computer?? I don't even think
they offer support for my model , opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down a sightling to get the service tag number from my
tower before I can download their media creation crap.
Plus, since my computer is way out of warranty there
might be a "fee" associated with that and getting help
for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64 bit, without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?



























Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

 

I had an idea that it had to do with soccer or something. I'm thinking
English might not be his first language, but what do I know?

On 8/27/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@...> wrote:
I don't know what he's talking about when he says "yellow cards". Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Bowers
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Hi Edmund,

Let me get this straight, you're saying that if you tell something better,
then yellow cards will continue to come?

You seem like a good guy, but I'm spending too much time trying to figure
out your esoteric messages.

That's my fault--not yours.

Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

That one is fine for the price. If I tell something better, then yellow
cards will continue to come.

On 8/26/2016 9:12 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I can't disagree that using a USB type sound card may offer the
ability to have working sound in 10, especially if driver support may
be less than friendly for her computer, but I'm not sure I'd say that it's

a fix.


Unless I'm really misunderstanding what you're suggesting, I cringe at
the thought that I'd have to solely rely on an external sound card,
just to have working sound.


Using an external sound card for the PE isn't all that bad, but for my
installation that I use every day, I'd find that to be quite
frustrating, me thinks.

Forgive if you meant something different, that's just how I read things.
hehe


On 8/26/2016 10:50 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
That issue can be fixable.
Do you have a USB headset? Hope you know what it is... LOL!

On 8/26/2016 8:36 PM, Melissa wrote:
Yes and so far, I hope and hope, that is my only issue. I have not
found any resolution for the error I'm getting and the Dell site
tells me that they don't offer windows 10 support for my model.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Will take a look at this. So you have a Dell OptiPlex 755?
Here I can imagine what's your issue but let's make sure.

On 8/26/2016 8:09 PM, Melissa wrote:
The main issue that I have is that there is no updated sound
drivers and I keep getting a dialog box on restart/boot up that
tells me that the sound is not meant for this soft ware version.
I've looked everywhere, it seems, for a fix for this, but I
haven't found anything about it.
When I go to look at hardware and devices it says that my
soundcard is working fine though.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
It's not bad at all. It can run what you want. I'd try to move to
Windows 10, unless there's a really issue.
If you have problem we can try to help. There are users who just
do not like Windows 10 but you should be fine.

On 8/26/2016 7:48 PM, Melissa wrote:
Thanks for your opinion. It sounds weird, but I kinda like the
name lenovo, maybe it is a girl thing, lol.
To compare, my present computer:
Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
2.67 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
64 kilobyte
I think it is 4 gb of ram

So I'm thinking almost anything will be faster, hah.


On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've
really grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so
years now. I'd definitely stick with a machine that either
comes with 7 or that can be downgraded, without to much
trouble, but if that ends up being to difficult, having to
change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just
want it for word processing and tinkering about on the
interwebs, I'd guess it'd work pretty well. Just as reference,
my machine is the x220, upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased
later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's
been a long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them
these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I
most likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was
thinking buying used again off of amazon since I've had good
experience with doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my
experience is with a computer that doesn't play well with
windows 10 so a more updated computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_tt
l?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=
1


however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_tt
l?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8


As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not
so low as to get a computer that would only last me for a year
or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly
they don't sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop
regarding computer stuff since I lost my site and now could
care less if the computer is powerful enough to run photoshop
or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in
hard drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that
is it, but I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or
10, laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you
want & with what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a working computer to actually make moneyand well I've
been putting off getting my divorce for this long I'm
thinking I can put it off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I
don't need something all powerful since I usually use my
computer for word processing types of things and the
internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music or
movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a SSD drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy
importante, and I can't think of anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on
something that will last for a while, not for forever, and it
be possible to do maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being nuerotic.


Melissa






















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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

 

I have a tech who I could ask to help me, he helped me with this
computer when I got it, but I'm not sure how much it would cost me to
do the whole shebang so to speak.
I'm sad that the guy I had found years ago who had a home business
moved to freaking arizona. He was awesome.

On 8/27/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I am glad to have that clarified. She got a laptop; I'd prefer a desktop. I
will keep them in mind, if the time comes for me to have to replace, which,
in all probability, it will.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


CFB charges a nominal fee of $110 for a refurbished desktop computer and
$130 for a refurbed laptop. You are permitted to request one computer per
year.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Melissa, have you contacted:
Computers for the Blind
214-340-6328

They are located in Garland, Texas and provide refurbished computers with
NVDA for, I believe it is $127. A friend of mine in Houston got one, and the
computer guy at her church updated it from 7 to 10 for her. She has been
very pleased with it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer. It would
mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a working
computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting off getting my
divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some entries for a
"mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need something all powerful
since I usually use my computer for word processing types of things and the
internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that will
last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do maintenance on
it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa















Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

For "Pam".

On 8/27/2016 3:16 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
'Yellow card' is football (or perhaps mainly soccer) parlance, as in,
you get a yellow card when you're booked for a first-time offence; and a
red card for the second offence, at which point you're sent off the
field of play for the remainder of the game.

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Whatever it is you won't get it. Ed.

On 8/27/2016 12:08 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
She didn't say "cash". She said "cast offs". Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I can't mail cash, <LOL>! but we can think about other available gifting
options...:)

On 8/26/2016 8:34 PM, Melissa wrote:
yeah, yeah, then send me your cast-offs, lol

On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
Hey now, if you're giving away machines, may I build it and send you
the
bill? :P

My credit card would be quite appreciative, me thinks. :)


On 8/26/2016 10:08 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
Carlos, is this really your current machine? What if I build and gift
you a new one...<LOL>!

On 8/26/2016 8:06 PM, Carlos wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted
about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but
still a PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have
ever owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years
now.
I'd definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or
that
can be downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up
being to difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super
bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak
to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for
word processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess
it'd
work pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220,
upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased later down the road and
installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience
with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1






however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8






As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in
hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it,
but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or
10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you
want
& with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer. It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been
putting off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being
nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

Yes. People think we are stupid... This is unfortunate. At least Melissa pointed she really do not want a cheap computer. Maybe 1 wanted to eat $100 and send nothing then.

On 8/27/2016 3:06 PM, Melissa wrote:
Man, you guys really got busy in the time I couldn't get to my
computer. While I was playing catch up I had hit the DL for the link
Edmund posted and have been downloading it ... I hope it is the right
one for me. After catching up I feel bad for all of the trouble y'all
went through. Though I am hoping someone else can also make use of
what you came up with.
Makes me wish I had asked sooner to get help but it is that stupid
pride thing that pops up when it comes to asking for help with
something. I should know by now that it shouldn't matter with you
guys. (especially after seeing how most of you are to other community
members over the years)








On 8/27/16, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

If you will e-mail me off list I can give you some information as to where
you can purchase a mini-desk computer for $100. This is not from Computers
for the Blind, although they also sell computers for $100. My e-mail
address is:

veronicaa.kirk@...

Veronica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions

This is true for retail keys. A retail key is not given to you when you buy
a machine with Windows 7 pre-installed. Same for Windows Vista. Same for
Windows XP. Yes things got easier when Windows 8 arrived, so the key is now
integrated in the BIOS. I won't change on it, just hope one can activate
their Windows!


On 8/26/2016 6:59 PM, Carlos wrote:
Then you should already know that COA stands for certificate of
authenticity and any machine which comes with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a legitimate manufacturer will include one. Further more, the
product key on this sticker will always allow you to activate a clean
installation. This was changed starting with Windows 8 where the
product key is stored in the BIOS.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Carlos. Why you are urging this please? Once cannot activate such
installations without proper certificate install.
It's my job here I am doing it at least once or twice in a week.

On 8/26/2016 6:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker, we could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you
could use to perform a clean installation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
<@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After
having to re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag or contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA key sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top
of the case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because I don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled
them who freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision (very long story there) to try and see if I could do
some freelance transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my
computer ends up being a total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix the issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some
cases, modifying ei.cfg will allow the image to work with an
OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work
with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key
on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will send you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and
that they can't help me with that. I will have to get the
service tag number, my computer is a dell, and go through
their site to try and get a copy of windows 7 and since my
computer is out of warranty I might get charged for it, I
don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting to sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you used, however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do not work with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do
you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password that I had used to make my windows 7 image. I
always use a variant of a few things when I make
passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a way to get the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do a clean install, which is probably a good thing to do
anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get a download of Office 07, even though I have the right
key. I use word and excel a lot and don't use the other
tools. I'm guessing I would have to contact microsoft
accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact
the device manufacturer for software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows 7 for my old ass computer?? I don't even think
they offer support for my model , opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down a sightling to get the service tag number from my
tower before I can download their media creation crap.
Plus, since my computer is way out of warranty there
might be a "fee" associated with that and getting help
for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64 bit, without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?



























Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

 

Thank you, I looked briefly at the site and will add it to places I
can look for a newer computer if I go that route.

On 8/27/16, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@...> wrote:

I can personally vouch for Computers for the Blind, the Texas-based
organization that makes refurbished desktop and laptop computers available
to blind individuals for a nominal fee. The refurbished Dell Optaplex
desktop equipped with Windows 7 Pro 32 bit that I obtained from them for
$110 a full year ago has been working well for me since then. If your needs
are basic word processing, , sending and receiving email and web surfing,
this is definitely an option worth considering. And because it comes with
both NVDA and JAWS 16 demo version already installed, plus a number of other
blind-friendly programs like Jarte word processor and Windows Live Mail
2012, set up is greatly simplified.

Gerald



From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:22 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I don't see any reason for an SSD drive if your computer is going to be used
for word processing and other undemanding work. I haven't compared prices,
but I would think you might save perhaps fifty or one-hundred dollars and
have a larger drive if you get a computer with a mechanical drive.

I don't know how much you want to spend but for word processing, e-mail and
Internet browsing, you might consider a computer from, I believe it's called
computers for the blind. I know little about them but they provide Windows
7 machines for a much cheaper price than purchasing a new computer.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Melissa
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new computer. It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been putting off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm thinking a SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of being
nuerotic.


Melissa




Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

 

You are so right in this sir. I didn't even know about the option for
an external soundcard and that indeed would fix most of my issues in
running windows 10.
Despite the length of this thread I did get a better grasp on what is
available out there for computer stuff and what I would need to look
for in getting myself a newer computer. I'd rather have a lot of
options than to think I only have one, but that is mainly my own
fault.

On 8/26/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
On a laptop that you want to move around, you might not want to use an
external sound card. For a stationary laptop or for a desktop, there is no
disadvantage in using one.

In the current situation, if Melissa is satisfied with Windows 10, it might
make far more sense to purchase an external sound card than to reinstall
Windows 7, reinstall all programs, possibly look for one or more drivers
that have been lost in the installation, and install a lot of updates.


Gene
From: Jeremy
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the simple fact that it's external. I'm not saying it'd not work, just
that I personally would not wish to solely rely on using an external for my
every day installation of windows. Perhaps my feelings are a bit different
than others, being that I use and have used a laptop for years and years now
and maybe on a PC it'd be more tolerable, but I don't care for using
external devices, unless they become necessary.

Take care.


On 8/26/2016 11:45 PM, Gene wrote:

You don't explain why using an external sound card is a problem in your
case. I used an external sound card for years as my only sound card when I
damaged the internal sound card in an XP laptop many years ago. It was so
close in responsiveness to the internal sound card that there was no problem
and I could hardly tell the difference in performance.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeremy
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't disagree that using a USB type sound card may offer the ability
to have working sound in 10, especially if driver support may be less
than friendly for her computer, but I'm not sure I'd say that it's a fix.


Unless I'm really misunderstanding what you're suggesting, I cringe at
the thought that I'd have to solely rely on an external sound card, just
to have working sound.


Using an external sound card for the PE isn't all that bad, but for my
installation that I use every day, I'd find that to be quite
frustrating, me thinks.

Forgive if you meant something different, that's just how I read things.
hehe


On 8/26/2016 10:50 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
> That issue can be fixable.
> Do you have a USB headset? Hope you know what it is... LOL!
>
> On 8/26/2016 8:36 PM, Melissa wrote:
>> Yes and so far, I hope and hope, that is my only issue. I have not
>> found any resolution for the error I'm getting and the Dell site tells
>> me that they don't offer windows 10 support for my model.
>>
>> On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
>> <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>> Will take a look at this. So you have a Dell OptiPlex 755?
>>> Here I can imagine what's your issue but let's make sure.
>>>
>>> On 8/26/2016 8:09 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>> The main issue that I have is that there is no updated sound drivers
>>>> and I keep getting a dialog box on restart/boot up that tells me
that
>>>> the sound is not meant for this soft ware version. I've looked
>>>> everywhere, it seems, for a fix for this, but I haven't found
anything
>>>> about it.
>>>> When I go to look at hardware and devices it says that my soundcard
is
>>>> working fine though.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
>>>> <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> It's not bad at all. It can run what you want. I'd try to move to
>>>>> Windows 10, unless there's a really issue.
>>>>> If you have problem we can try to help. There are users who just
>>>>> do not
>>>>> like Windows 10 but you should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/26/2016 7:48 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks for your opinion. It sounds weird, but I kinda like the
name
>>>>>> lenovo, maybe it is a girl thing, lol.
>>>>>> To compare, my present computer:
>>>>>> Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
>>>>>> 2.67 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
>>>>>> 64 kilobyte
>>>>>> I think it is 4 gb of ram
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I'm thinking almost anything will be faster, hah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
>>>>>>> For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've
really
>>>>>>> grown
>>>>>>> to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now. I'd
>>>>>>> definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or that
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up being to
>>>>>>> difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super bad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for
word
>>>>>>> processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess it'd
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220, upgraded
>>>>>>> to an
>>>>>>> SSD, which I purchased later down the road and installed myself.
>>>>>>> I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been
a
>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>> time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts. :)
>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I
most
>>>>>>>> likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
>>>>>>>> buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
>>>>>>>> computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more
updated
>>>>>>>> computer might be lots better.
>>>>>>>> One computer I was looking @ was:
>>>>>>>>
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
>>>>>>>> dollars
>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not
>>>>>>>> so low
>>>>>>>> as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so.
>>>>>>>> Those
>>>>>>>> two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding
computer
>>>>>>>> stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
>>>>>>>> computer is
>>>>>>>> powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
>>>>>>>> When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in
hard
>>>>>>>> drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> I'm sure I'm missing something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Melissa,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or
10,
>>>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you
>>>>>>>>> want &
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> what search criteria to use.
>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: Melissa
>>>>>>>>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
>>>>>>>>> need a
>>>>>>>>> working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been
putting
>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>> getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off
>>>>>>>>> a bit
>>>>>>>>> more, lol.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
>>>>>>>>> entries
>>>>>>>>> for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> all powerful since I usually use my computer for word
processing
>>>>>>>>> types
>>>>>>>>> of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen
to
>>>>>>>>> music
>>>>>>>>> or movies.
>>>>>>>>> All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
>>>>>>>>> thinking a
>>>>>>>>> SSD
>>>>>>>>> drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> anything else right now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to
do
>>>>>>>>> maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I greatly value y'all's opinions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> nuerotic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Melissa
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>







Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Flor Lynch
 

'Yellow card' is football (or perhaps mainly soccer) parlance, as in, you get a yellow card when you're booked for a first-time offence; and a red card for the second offence, at which point you're sent off the field of play for the remainder of the game.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Whatever it is you won't get it. Ed.

On 8/27/2016 12:08 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
She didn't say "cash". She said "cast offs". Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I can't mail cash, <LOL>! but we can think about other available gifting
options...:)

On 8/26/2016 8:34 PM, Melissa wrote:
yeah, yeah, then send me your cast-offs, lol

On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
Hey now, if you're giving away machines, may I build it and send you the
bill? :P

My credit card would be quite appreciative, me thinks. :)


On 8/26/2016 10:08 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
Carlos, is this really your current machine? What if I build and gift
you a new one...<LOL>!

On 8/26/2016 8:06 PM, Carlos wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted
about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but
still a PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have
ever owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now.
I'd definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or
that
can be downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up
being to difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super
bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak
to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for
word processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess
it'd
work pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220,
upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased later down the road and
installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience
with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1





however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8





As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it,
but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want
& with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer. It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been
putting off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being
nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

No reason to feel bad. That is why we are here after all and as you say others can always benefit from the information.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Man, you guys really got busy in the time I couldn't get to my
computer. While I was playing catch up I had hit the DL for the link
Edmund posted and have been downloading it ... I hope it is the right
one for me. After catching up I feel bad for all of the trouble y'all
went through. Though I am hoping someone else can also make use of
what you came up with.
Makes me wish I had asked sooner to get help but it is that stupid
pride thing that pops up when it comes to asking for help with
something. I should know by now that it shouldn't matter with you
guys. (especially after seeing how most of you are to other community
members over the years)








On 8/27/16, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

If you will e-mail me off list I can give you some information as to where
you can purchase a mini-desk computer for $100. This is not from Computers
for the Blind, although they also sell computers for $100. My e-mail
address is:

veronicaa.kirk@...

Veronica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions

This is true for retail keys. A retail key is not given to you when you buy
a machine with Windows 7 pre-installed. Same for Windows Vista. Same for
Windows XP. Yes things got easier when Windows 8 arrived, so the key is now
integrated in the BIOS. I won't change on it, just hope one can activate
their Windows!


On 8/26/2016 6:59 PM, Carlos wrote:
Then you should already know that COA stands for certificate of
authenticity and any machine which comes with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a legitimate manufacturer will include one. Further more, the
product key on this sticker will always allow you to activate a clean
installation. This was changed starting with Windows 8 where the
product key is stored in the BIOS.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Carlos. Why you are urging this please? Once cannot activate such
installations without proper certificate install.
It's my job here I am doing it at least once or twice in a week.

On 8/26/2016 6:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker, we could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you
could use to perform a clean installation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
<@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After
having to re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag or contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA key sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top
of the case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because I don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled
them who freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision (very long story there) to try and see if I could do
some freelance transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my
computer ends up being a total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix the issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some
cases, modifying ei.cfg will allow the image to work with an
OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work
with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key
on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will send you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and
that they can't help me with that. I will have to get the
service tag number, my computer is a dell, and go through
their site to try and get a copy of windows 7 and since my
computer is out of warranty I might get charged for it, I
don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting to sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you used, however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do not work with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do
you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password that I had used to make my windows 7 image. I
always use a variant of a few things when I make
passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a way to get the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do a clean install, which is probably a good thing to do
anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get a download of Office 07, even though I have the right
key. I use word and excel a lot and don't use the other
tools. I'm guessing I would have to contact microsoft
accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact
the device manufacturer for software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows 7 for my old ass computer?? I don't even think
they offer support for my model , opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down a sightling to get the service tag number from my
tower before I can download their media creation crap.
Plus, since my computer is way out of warranty there
might be a "fee" associated with that and getting help
for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64 bit, without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?



























Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

 

Man, you guys really got busy in the time I couldn't get to my
computer. While I was playing catch up I had hit the DL for the link
Edmund posted and have been downloading it ... I hope it is the right
one for me. After catching up I feel bad for all of the trouble y'all
went through. Though I am hoping someone else can also make use of
what you came up with.
Makes me wish I had asked sooner to get help but it is that stupid
pride thing that pops up when it comes to asking for help with
something. I should know by now that it shouldn't matter with you
guys. (especially after seeing how most of you are to other community
members over the years)

On 8/27/16, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

If you will e-mail me off list I can give you some information as to where
you can purchase a mini-desk computer for $100. This is not from Computers
for the Blind, although they also sell computers for $100. My e-mail
address is:

veronicaa.kirk@...

Veronica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions

This is true for retail keys. A retail key is not given to you when you buy
a machine with Windows 7 pre-installed. Same for Windows Vista. Same for
Windows XP. Yes things got easier when Windows 8 arrived, so the key is now
integrated in the BIOS. I won't change on it, just hope one can activate
their Windows!


On 8/26/2016 6:59 PM, Carlos wrote:
Then you should already know that COA stands for certificate of
authenticity and any machine which comes with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a legitimate manufacturer will include one. Further more, the
product key on this sticker will always allow you to activate a clean
installation. This was changed starting with Windows 8 where the
product key is stored in the BIOS.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Carlos. Why you are urging this please? Once cannot activate such
installations without proper certificate install.
It's my job here I am doing it at least once or twice in a week.

On 8/26/2016 6:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
If you were able to retrieve the product key from the COA key
sticker, we could probably arrange for a Windows 7 ISO image you
could use to perform a clean installation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
<@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Okay, so I finally got a chance to run that prog and get my service
tag. I took the service tag they gave me and used it on the dell
site to get the media/iso so I could reinstall windows 7. After
having to re enable wibvisum to use it to solve the captcha I got this
error:
Recovery image not available for your Service Tag.
Sorry, but a Dell Hosted Recovery Image is currently not available
for the Service Tag that you entered. Please enter another Service
Tag or contact Dell Technical Support for further assistance.

I contacted support so I'm just waiting for them to tell me "too
bad so sad" ... rolling my eyes here, lol.
I'm starting a new email about computer specs or something to take
my mind off of this frustration.

Melissa
On 8/25/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the
COA key sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top
of the case.
With laptops it is usually on the bottom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off
of amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install,
because I don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember
any extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled
them who freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the
decision (very long story there) to try and see if I could do
some freelance transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my
computer ends up being a total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to
fix the issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you
cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some
cases, modifying ei.cfg will allow the image to work with an
OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download
Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work
with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7
preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key
on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via
Groups.io"
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To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back
up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I
will send you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the
windows site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and
that they can't help me with that. I will have to get the
service tag number, my computer is a dell, and go through
their site to try and get a copy of windows 7 and since my
computer is out of warranty I might get charged for it, I
don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being
2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and
sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at
getting to sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software
you used, however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download?
Windows
7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still
do not work with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do
you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have?
Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the
password that I had used to make my windows 7 image. I
always use a variant of a few things when I make
passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there
a way to get the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded
to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there
at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to
do a clean install, which is probably a good thing to do
anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to
get a download of Office 07, even though I have the right
key. I use word and excel a lot and don't use the other
tools. I'm guessing I would have to contact microsoft
accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft
website,

I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It
tells
me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact
the device manufacturer for software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of
windows 7 for my old ass computer?? I don't even think
they offer support for my model , opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt
down a sightling to get the service tag number from my
tower before I can download their media creation crap.
Plus, since my computer is way out of warranty there
might be a "fee" associated with that and getting help
for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional
64 bit, without the crapware, that I had when I bought my
computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?



























Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

Whatever it is you won't get it. Ed.

On 8/27/2016 12:08 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
She didn't say "cash". She said "cast offs". Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

I can't mail cash, <LOL>! but we can think about other available gifting
options...:)

On 8/26/2016 8:34 PM, Melissa wrote:
yeah, yeah, then send me your cast-offs, lol

On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
Hey now, if you're giving away machines, may I build it and send you the
bill? :P

My credit card would be quite appreciative, me thinks. :)


On 8/26/2016 10:08 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
Carlos, is this really your current machine? What if I build and gift
you a new one...<LOL>!

On 8/26/2016 8:06 PM, Carlos wrote:
That was the Lenovo ThinkCentre M53.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNSFMYA?&psc=1
Although the page doesn't quite look the same and it seems a bit more
pricy than it was when I purchased it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I can't recall, but got me curious on what machine you'd posted
about,
guess it's been a good ways back. I know that it ran windows, but it
was one of those little tiny type PCS, almost a portable sort but
still a PC.
You remember which one it was?
Thanks.
On 8/26/2016 9:41 PM, Carlos wrote:
I don't usually praise individual manufacturers, but I have to say
that my Dell XPS 8700 is the most stable and silent machine I have
ever owned.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've really
grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so years now.
I'd definitely stick with a machine that either comes with 7 or
that
can be downgraded, without to much trouble, but if that ends up
being to difficult, having to change over to 10 really isn't super
bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak
to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just want it for
word processing and tinkering about on the interwebs, I'd guess
it'd
work pretty well. Just as reference, my machine is the x220,
upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased later down the road and
installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's been a
long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I most
likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was thinking
buying used again off of amazon since I've had good experience
with
doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my experience is with a
computer that doesn't play well with windows 10 so a more updated
computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=1





however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars
less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8





As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not so
low
as to get a computer that would only last me for a year or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly they
don't
sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop regarding computer
stuff since I lost my site and now could care less if the
computer is
powerful enough to run photoshop or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in hard
drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that is it,
but
I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or 10,
laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you want
& with
what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer. It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a
working computer to actually make moneyand well I've been
putting off
getting my divorce for this long I'm thinking I can put it off a
bit
more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries
for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I don't need
something
all powerful since I usually use my computer for word processing
types
of things and the internet. I don't use my computer to listen to
music
or movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a
SSD
drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy importante, and I can't
think of
anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on something
that
will last for a while, not for forever, and it be possible to do
maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being
nuerotic.


Melissa


















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Re: a newer computer & discussing specs

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

You do not have to know anything. Ed.

On 8/27/2016 2:16 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
I don't know what he's talking about when he says "yellow cards". Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Bowers
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

Hi Edmund,

Let me get this straight, you're saying that if you tell something
better, then yellow cards will continue to come?

You seem like a good guy, but I'm spending too much time trying to
figure out your esoteric messages.

That's my fault--not yours.

Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs

That one is fine for the price. If I tell something better, then yellow
cards will continue to come.

On 8/26/2016 9:12 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I can't disagree that using a USB type sound card may offer the
ability to have working sound in 10, especially if driver support may
be less than friendly for her computer, but I'm not sure I'd say that
it's a fix.


Unless I'm really misunderstanding what you're suggesting, I cringe at
the thought that I'd have to solely rely on an external sound card,
just to have working sound.


Using an external sound card for the PE isn't all that bad, but for my
installation that I use every day, I'd find that to be quite
frustrating, me thinks.

Forgive if you meant something different, that's just how I read things.
hehe


On 8/26/2016 10:50 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
That issue can be fixable.
Do you have a USB headset? Hope you know what it is... LOL!

On 8/26/2016 8:36 PM, Melissa wrote:
Yes and so far, I hope and hope, that is my only issue. I have not
found any resolution for the error I'm getting and the Dell site
tells me that they don't offer windows 10 support for my model.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Will take a look at this. So you have a Dell OptiPlex 755?
Here I can imagine what's your issue but let's make sure.

On 8/26/2016 8:09 PM, Melissa wrote:
The main issue that I have is that there is no updated sound
drivers and I keep getting a dialog box on restart/boot up that
tells me that the sound is not meant for this soft ware version.
I've looked everywhere, it seems, for a fix for this, but I
haven't found anything about it.
When I go to look at hardware and devices it says that my
soundcard is working fine though.

On 8/26/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
wrote:
It's not bad at all. It can run what you want. I'd try to move to
Windows 10, unless there's a really issue.
If you have problem we can try to help. There are users who just
do not like Windows 10 but you should be fine.

On 8/26/2016 7:48 PM, Melissa wrote:
Thanks for your opinion. It sounds weird, but I kinda like the
name lenovo, maybe it is a girl thing, lol.
To compare, my present computer:
Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
2.67 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
64 kilobyte
I think it is 4 gb of ram

So I'm thinking almost anything will be faster, hah.


On 8/26/16, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:
For the price, I'd say it doesn't sound bad at all and I've
really grown to like Lenovo, having had mine for around 4 or so
years now. I'd definitely stick with a machine that either
comes with 7 or that can be downgraded, without to much
trouble, but if that ends up being to difficult, having to
change over to 10 really isn't super bad.


My machine's processor is a tad bit quicker, so I can't really
speak to what type of decrease you may see, but if you just
want it for word processing and tinkering about on the
interwebs, I'd guess it'd work pretty well. Just as reference,
my machine is the x220, upgraded to an SSD, which I purchased
later down the road and installed myself.
I've also really liked the Dell Latitude machines, but it's
been a long time since I had a dell, so I can't speak to them
these days.
Just a few thoughts. :)
Take care.

On 8/26/2016 9:05 PM, Melissa wrote:
Oh ... gee ... that would make sense huh? lol

I want a desktop, I would prefer windows 7 and I know that I
most likely won't find a new computer with that on it. I was
thinking buying used again off of amazon since I've had good
experience with doing that. I don't mind windows 10, but my
experience is with a computer that doesn't play well with
windows 10 so a more updated computer might be lots better.
One computer I was looking @ was:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01E0FYVXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_tt
l?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I2LVROXSQJE4WB&psc=
1


however what sounds like basically the same thing is 4 or 5
dollars less
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VTQ5U5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_tt
l?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XFT3UT4G71GO&coliid=I1NITMZZKYXTF8


As for price I am thinking $400 or lower if possible. But, not
so low as to get a computer that would only last me for a year
or so.
Those
two are the same brand and are "mini" desktops and honestly
they don't sound bad to me, but I've been out of the loop
regarding computer stuff since I lost my site and now could
care less if the computer is powerful enough to run photoshop
or the games I used to play.
When I search I would like a few more specs to look for as in
hard drive types, ram, and processor type/speed. I think that
is it, but I'm sure I'm missing something.

On 8/26/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
Hi Melissa,

Just so these good folks know, what price range, Windows 7 or
10, laptop or

desktop? This will give people a better idea as to what you
want & with what search criteria to use.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:43 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a newer computer & discussing specs


I'm about ready to look into getting a newer if not a new
computer.
It
would mean putting off stuff I've been saving for ... but I
need a working computer to actually make moneyand well I've
been putting off getting my divorce for this long I'm
thinking I can put it off a bit more, lol.

I was looking at amazon to get an idea of costs and saw some
entries for a "mini desktop computer. My thing is that I
don't need something all powerful since I usually use my
computer for word processing types of things and the
internet. I don't use my computer to listen to music or
movies.
All I know is that I would want a faster processor, I'm
thinking a SSD drive, bluetooth, wireless (not muy
importante, and I can't think of anything else right now.

If I spend any money on something I want it to be on
something that will last for a while, not for forever, and it
be possible to do maintenance on it or maybe upgrade it.

I greatly value y'all's opinions.

Excuse me if I am rambling, but trying to talk myself out of
being nuerotic.


Melissa






















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