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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Carlos
 


Of course, because Android is Android.  As long as the phone includes TalkBack which most of them do, it will be accessible.  In fact, many of the less expensive ones run stock Android so it has nothing to do with the cost of the phone.

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Yes it can, but there again is it guaranteed to be accessible being that cheap? In my opinion, I don't really think so.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Some yes, but you can also purchase a perfectly adequate Android phone for $90 to $120, even without a contract.  That's something that can't be said for the iPhone.  Android is not limited to one manufacturer.
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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Well Carlos, I'll tell you this much. You want to talk about price gouging, Look at the Android lineup phones. Their phones are much more expensive then the V Apple iPhones. Not counting D+ models. The plus models of the iPhone, are just about is expensive as some of the androids that are out there.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Oh of course you can always find something that is even more ridiculously priced, but it all comes down to what each consumer considers worthwhile.  Also, I must admit that I tend to react negatively to products produced by companies who have a history of price gouging.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Let me give ya somethin’ that beats that. Beats headphones, for $300. LOL from side to side! 
 
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
All I can say is that is a buck load of money for headphones…
Kimsan Song
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Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
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lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass! LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

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Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
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http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
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Re: Samsung Galaxy S-7

Kassy <kasandratoo@...>
 

If the phone has been reset to factory setting, like the IPhone it will start up with the initial set up screen just like a new phone. so the method I described will work when powering up after a factory reset.
 

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7
 
No problem. Your meaning was clear!
If a blind person were borrowing (or receiving) it already having been used by a sighted person, could the blind person accessibly adapt it?
 
From: Kassy
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7
Thanks but I am embarrassed about the misspellings in the message. I am usually better at checking. This phone can be set up totally without any sighted assistance.
 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7
 
This is good info to know.
From: Kassy
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7
Mike, To turn on Talk back from the initial start up:
This needs to be done the very first time you power up the phone. Press and hold the the power button for about 7 seconds to power on. I believe the device will give a slight vibrations when powering on.
Wait a few seconds for the set up screen to come on (you just have to guess on this one since of course you can’t see it.
Then place two fingers on the screen and just hold them there. Eventually, the device will prompt you with speech to continue to hold the fingers on the screen until Talk Back is enabled. Once Talk Back is enabled you will have speech to finish your set up.
I have done this sever times with good success.
Goo luck and this is a very popular Android phone.
 
 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:33 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7
 
Hi All,
 
We're looking into getting into the 21st century by getting smart phones, but we don't know whether to go iPhone or Android.  A friend of mine has a Samsung Galaxy S-7 that he'll let me play around with, but would someone please give me steps on how to turn on it's screen reading function?  He doesn't know how, & I sure as hell don't have a clue!  LOL  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Well Jean, I've had a pair of Bose, I have had the school candy many headphones, iPad the headphones that come with your traditional cd players. I've also had the headphones that you can laugh the cell phone Walmart. And by far, the ones that I've always been happy with interns of clearness and using via the phone has been the Apple ear pods.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You have expressed your opinion about the earbuds but have you done any sort of systematic comparisons in terms of quality for earbuds of various companies from a price range of, say fifty dollars through 159 dollars? 
 
My earlier comments were for headphones, not earbuds so they may not apply, but even so, I'm really skeptical that, unless one is an audiofile, that paying 159 dollars for earbuds is justified.  I am assuming for the sake of argument, that the 159 dollar earbuds are audiophile quality.  I am not stating that they are, I don't know. 
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Yes Carlos indeed, it is my choice. But I feel like I need to stay here to give these other iPhone users the benefit of a doubt, that there is some definite hope, Indies wireless headsets.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

I'm sorry if you feel the need to leave just because of a difference of opinion, but that is your choice.
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Well nobody said that you had to. I'm just recommending look at something and try something before you knock it because of its price. That is all I'm trying to say. I will say no more. Because I feel like this is turning into a negative discussion. And if anybody wants to find me, if I end up leading this group, Because of this discussion. Look at all the different ways that you can find me in my signature.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:28 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:

I would not either, and that was my drawback to the recommendation of Mystic Access, is the money I would be out for it. 

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 2:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:

Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@... <mailto:carlos1106@...> > wrote:


LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> > wrote:


Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Well since I've never owned a pair of their headphones and probably never will, I would probably more than likely have to agree with your statement.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

And Beats aren't considered top headphones in terms of quality.  You are paying for a name and to be cool.  
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Let me give ya somethin’ that beats that. Beats headphones, for $300. LOL from side to side! 
 
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
All I can say is that is a buck load of money for headphones…
 
Kimsan Song
 
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
 
Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
 
I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
Joseph Hudson
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
 
Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
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To: <
main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
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<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Oh Okay, well I mean I know that you had done well keep yourself well-informed about all that Times of stuff. But I know that a lot of those areas are not your specialties as I've Ardi pointed out but that's also good to know that you has information in the resource section about those things as well.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

I don't consider myself an expert with any particular area of computer technology.  I consider myself a bit of a generalist.  I am certainly overall more familiar with Windows and Windows based PCs, but as you can see in the list archives if you care to look, I do keep myself informed about other computer related and electronic technology in general.  At one point or another, I have experimented with iPhones, Macs, Android, and several Linux distributions.  Although since my experience with some of the above is limited, I tend to let others who know more field related questions.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Old Carlos, I know that you've been around the technology world along time. I just didn't think headsets in general where your specialty. Your specialty as long as I've known you has been in computer programming. Particularly for windows. I started out like you did, in the Windows environment. Then I went into the Apple environment. Where are you I am very happy pleased with their very expensive technology and I'll try to convince others to investing it as well especially if it sounds like a great deal.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

No offense Joseph, but I think I have more than a passing familiarity with technology and I know when something is over priced.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Oh it's not necessary to apologize to me. Apologize to        yourself that you don't have them. I am asking you to pay 159 form. What I am saying that you should think about that before you say that and look at the headphones and try them out and then you will more than likely understand why they're so expensive.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after            removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for                the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:
Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and                ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>





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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Yes it can, but there again is it guaranteed to be accessible being that cheap? In my opinion, I don't really think so.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Some yes, but you can also purchase a perfectly adequate Android phone for $90 to $120, even without a contract.  That's something that can't be said for the iPhone.  Android is not limited to one manufacturer.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Well Carlos, I'll tell you this much. You want to talk about price gouging, Look at the Android lineup phones. Their phones are much more expensive then the V Apple iPhones. Not counting D+ models. The plus models of the iPhone, are just about is expensive as some of the androids that are out there.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Oh of course you can always find something that is even more ridiculously priced, but it all comes down to what each consumer considers worthwhile.  Also, I must admit that I tend to react negatively to products produced by companies who have a history of price gouging.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Let me give ya somethin’ that beats that. Beats headphones, for $300. LOL from side to side! 
 
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
All I can say is that is a buck load of money for headphones…
Kimsan Song
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
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lenron93@...>
To: <
main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass! LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
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<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

I agree, very much so. I'm not advising everybody to go out and get one either and as far as five hours, that's a lot of time in my book. That's almost half a day.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:

I think the main thing to keep in mind is that not everyone wants the same thing from their headsets. I personally didn't mind all that much paying the price I did for my bose headset I have for my IPhone, but would I suggest everyone to go out and get one, no!

I honestly can't give an ipinion on the upcoming apple wireless headset, but from what I've read of it so far, I'd not be in any hurry to hop out and spend that kind of money for it. Most especially with it only having a charge time of 5 or so hours, nah, that kind of sucks, me thinks.





On 09/08/2016 03:35 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
Hi Flora, I hope you're message makes Carlos feel little bit better seems have you put that price out about the beats headphones now I can see not paying dollars 300. But dollar 150? I'll pay that any day for a pair of headphones especially it's going to last me are very long time.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Flor Lynch <florlync@...> wrote:

Let me give ya somethin’ that beats that. Beats headphones, for $300. LOL from side to side! 
 
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
All I can say is that is a buck load of money for headphones…
 
Kimsan Song
 
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
 
Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
 
I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind 
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
 
Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <
lenron93@...>
To: <
main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
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Email
jhud7789@...<mailto:jhud7789@...>
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Telephone
2543007667
Skype
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Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...<mailto:jhud7789@...>

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>





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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Lenron
 

I used android from 2.1 to version 6.0 and it has came such a long way
in all that time. I have always been able to use android pretty well
but I also have never expected android to act like the IPhone. I would
advise trying out a nexus or one of the later Samsungs. You could even
get a umi super for under 300 bucks. If you are going to be using your
phone for banking emailing and a little basic web browsing android
will do well. Spotify pandora and apple music all happen to be
accessible. On the other side there is the Iphone I had played with
others before I got one in early 2015. It works pretty well most of
the time. I am just not a fan of some of the latest changes that is
going to happen with the 7 and 7 plus. I plan to keep my 6s plus for
apple things and at some point soon update my android device. Most
basic things though you can get done well on both.

On 9/8/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I went to the web, looked at WLM, then Thunderbird, then at
Firefox. I love Firefox, going to get that. I've got to
check out for the night now, and tomorrow is my day out. So,
this is something to consider and try to work on over the
weekend. Any helpful suggestion will be appreciated.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Indeed yes, because things do not stay the same. It went
through my mind, what if I change, then that system has
problems? Then, well, what else is new? Find the one that
does not have the problem, right?

My biggest concern now is figuring how to make the change
and especially how to salvage all of my files.

Also, Which is more accessible, WLM or Thunderbird? Is there
another one beside those. They are the ones I hear about.

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Sometimes, good allies are those who urge change or at least
trying something new.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

You're a real ally, Kimsan. I have not experienced the
freeze until the last week or so. I'm always telling people,
"just think, this time next week, you'll have a brand new
problem." Usually I'm right. Trouble is, guess what, it
happens to me too - cheers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

That message freeze drives me bonkers.
With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had
an issue with, my work around is the same as yours where I
copy and paste.
My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and
not 2013.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the
first few months that I had this computer, it was just
wonderful to be able to click right onto any link sent; not
so now. I have no idea what caused the change.

Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a
message freeze, but immediately I got a solution - copy
message, get out of message, start again, paste, and
continue.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't know what program is being used but her message said
that initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the
same program is being used now, it certainly may be some
problem with her computer. But we need more information to
discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion.

Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It is
not proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a program in general. Your experience
indicates that a more general problem may exist.
it is not a definite indication that a general problem
exists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.



At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar, because pressing enter or spacebar on the link
will not simply launch it.

In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be
done, so I doubt it's a computer issue.

It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did
at the start.



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7



But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer.
Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your
computer. It may not matter to you enough to experiment but
you might well be able to work around whatever the problem
is by using another browser. It's unfortunate that so many
blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other
browsers than Internet Explorer. If people would just try
another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than Chrome, they might be surprised how little
they have to learn in the transition.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7



When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and I clicked on any of them that came through,
but now, I have to wrestle with them a lot of the time, and
still can't get to the intended subject sent. It could be
that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more
out there than struggling for a length that is not going to
be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I
just did this with your current link, And was able to show
the reader and copy the text. One thing you have to realize,
is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if
you were one of those people, six strapped to the group
below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still
apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles
from all the time. So have fun and enjoy.

Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind

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On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...> >
wrote:

Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the link is sent with the email. I realize some of you
may not be happy about this, so will try and research
alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but
unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your
suggestion.


On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
<kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...> >
wrote:

You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to
click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on
the length of this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
k-iphone-7/







































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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Carlos
 

Ah I see.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


I know that. It's just I thought if I got Thunderbird, I
might as well get Firefox. That is why I looked at it last.
Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Firefox is a web browser, not a mail client.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


I went to the web, looked at WLM, then Thunderbird, then at
Firefox. I
love Firefox, going to get that. I've got to check out for
the night
now, and tomorrow is my day out. So, this is something to
consider and
try to work on over the weekend. Any helpful suggestion
will be
appreciated.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Indeed yes, because things do not stay the same. It went
through my
mind, what if I change, then that system has problems?
Then, well,
what else is new? Find the one that does not have the
problem, right?

My biggest concern now is figuring how to make the change
and
especially how to salvage all of my files.

Also, Which is more accessible, WLM or Thunderbird? Is
there another
one beside those. They are the ones I hear about.

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Sometimes, good allies are those who urge change or at
least trying
something new.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

You're a real ally, Kimsan. I have not experienced the
freeze until
the last week or so. I'm always telling people, "just
think, this time
next week, you'll have a brand new problem." Usually I'm
right.
Trouble is, guess what, it happens to me too - cheers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

That message freeze drives me bonkers.
With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you
had an issue
with, my work around is the same as yours where I copy and
paste.
My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and
not 2013.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the
first few
months that I had this computer, it was just wonderful to
be able to
click right onto any link sent; not so now. I have no idea
what caused
the change.

Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a
message freeze,
but immediately I got a solution - copy message, get out
of message,
start again, paste, and continue.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't know what program is being used but her message
said that
initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the
same program
is being used now, it certainly may be some problem with
her computer.
But we need more information to discuss the matter further
and perhaps
reach a conclusion.

Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It
is not
proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a
program in general. Your experience indicates that a more
general
problem may exist.
it is not a definite indication that a general problem
exists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7


No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses
outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.



At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar,
because pressing enter or spacebar on the link will not
simply launch
it.

In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to
be done, so
I doubt it's a computer issue.

It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I
did at the
start.



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7



But that is some sort of problem specific to your
computer.
Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your
computer. It
may not matter to you enough to experiment but you might
well be able
to work around whatever the problem is by using another
browser. It's
unfortunate that so many blind computer users appear so
resistant to
trying other browsers than Internet Explorer. If people
would just
try another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than
Chrome, they might be surprised how little they have to
learn in the
transition.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7



When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and
I clicked on any of them that came through, but now, I
have to wrestle
with them a lot of the time, and still can't get to the
intended
subject sent. It could be that if I put forth more effort
- but then,
there is more out there than struggling for a length that
is not going
to be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I
know.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show
the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I just did
this with
your current link, And was able to show the reader and
copy the text.
One thing you have to realize, is that some people are not
a fan of
clicking links. And if you were one of those people, six
strapped to
the group below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I
am also still
apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share
articles from all
the time. So have fun and enjoy.

Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind

* IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
<mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...> >
wrote:

Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the
link is sent with the email. I realize some of you may not
be happy
about this, so will try and research alternatives. I used
to be on Mac
Daily News, but unsubscribed after getting the IDB app.
Thanks for
your suggestion.


On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
<kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...> >
wrote:

You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you
should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the
link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based
on the length
of this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
k-iphone-7/












































Re: "AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome" #article

Edmond <gocloud84@...>
 

Thanks so much. It sounds bad for me. So I may not be able to paire it with my Nexus 6 or my upcoming Pixel XL! Hope I am wrong, and Apple provides the old "0000" way. or even allow you to change the pairing code of your device. Let's see.

On 9/8/2016 5:38 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
*(The URL for this entry is at the end.) *

**

*Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your
iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new
iPhone AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome*

Macworld / Susie Ochs



I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the hands-on
area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself dancing
along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling
surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware and
software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods
kind of rocked my world.

When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired
EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills
your ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your
earlobe. They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the
same hard white plastic.

Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how
normal EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to
stay put, and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if
they do stay in, after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache,
although I don’t experience the same pain when using earbuds with
silicone or foam tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected
them to feel the same too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I
was dead wrong.

Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I
tossed my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it.
The AirPods stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia,
naturally) sounded full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word
anyone around me was saying, as if I was completely sealed off in a
bubble of rock and roll. Pretty impressive.

*For Apple devices only*

The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though
that specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need
a brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support
Apple devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS
Sierra, and watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think
maybe there’d be a way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8
device since those have Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the
AirPods to put them into pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get
review units, but it seems like the AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple
devices.

Susie Ochs

When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them
automatically. See the little AirPods icon?

When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like
the most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your
nearby iPhone offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t
have to do this every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve
paired them to your iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s
paired to your iPhone, as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in
to the same iCloud account. I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to
switch between devices, but the idea is, you can pause music on your
iPhone, start playing songs stored on your Apple Watch, and the AirPods
will just switch.

Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears
or not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to
invoke Siri. They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some
Bluetooth headphones: No on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause
or call-answering buttons, and no volume controls. Instead, you can
double-tap to get Siri—this pauses your music, but you can at least say
“turn up the volume” without fishing out your iPhone to turn it up on
that device. It’s a lot more awkward than just having volume controls
built in.

Removing one AirPod from your ear while music is playing will
automatically pause it, perfect for interacting with a cashier, barista,
or nosy passerby who has questions about your AirPods. The auto-pausing
effect is incredibly cool—I wish all my headphones did this. Just don’t
remove both AirPods, or the audio playback will automatically switch
back to your iPhone’s speakers, leaving you scrambling to pause it.

*Power to go*

The charging case is pretty neat on its own, too. It’s got a Lightning
port in the back, and you can charge just the case on its own or the
AirPods inside the case. That’s right—while the AirPods themselves get
about 5 hours of playback per charge, according to Apple, the case has a
battery, so you can top off on the go. The case has enough juice for
about 24 hours of playback, Apple says, which means you could recharge
the AirPods nearly five times before you have to plug the case into a
power adapter or USB port to recharge. Apple says that popping the
AirPods into the charging case for 15 minutes will get you another 3
hours of music—a tiny green LED inside the case lets you know the
AirPods are charging. Keeping wireless headphones charged can be a major
pain point—running out of battery mid-workout or mid-commute is the
/worst/, so this could be a good solution.

Susie Ochs

Even though they look like the old EarPods with the wires removed, I
found the AirPods much more comfortable.

The AirPods have a W1 chip inside to enable all this intelligence, and
Apple built the same chip into a new lineup of Beats headphones too. The
Beats Solo3 Wireless are over-the-ear headphones that have a more
complete set of on-ear controls and 40 hours of battery life, available
now for $300. The fitness-focused Powerbeats3 ($200) and everyday BeatsX
($150) launch later this year.

As for the AirPods themselves, sadly, they won’t launch with the iPhone
7. They’re due later in October, sold separately for $159. That’s steep
compared to other Apple-branded earbuds—the company’s most high-end
wired earbuds topped out at $99—but much more reasonable compared to
wireless Beats or other high-end wireless models. iPhone 7 early
adopters can use any Bluetooth headphones, of course, and Apple is also
including two more solutions in the box: a wired pair of EarPods that
connect to the iPhone’s Lightning port, and a Lightning-to–3.5mm adapter
that lets you plug any standard wired headphones into the Lightning port.

We’ll have a full review of AirPods as soon as we can, and we’ll compare
them to Beats and other wireless options in the same price range. Until
then, any questions we can answer? Let us know in the comments.



Original Article:
http://www.macworld.com/article/3117706/headphones/airpods-hands-on-they-stayed-in-my-ears-and-sounded-awesome.html#tk.rss_all




Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Carolyn Arnold
 

I know that. It's just I thought if I got Thunderbird, I
might as well get Firefox. That is why I looked at it last.
Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Firefox is a web browser, not a mail client.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


I went to the web, looked at WLM, then Thunderbird, then at
Firefox. I
love Firefox, going to get that. I've got to check out for
the night
now, and tomorrow is my day out. So, this is something to
consider and
try to work on over the weekend. Any helpful suggestion
will be
appreciated.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Indeed yes, because things do not stay the same. It went
through my
mind, what if I change, then that system has problems?
Then, well,
what else is new? Find the one that does not have the
problem, right?

My biggest concern now is figuring how to make the change
and
especially how to salvage all of my files.

Also, Which is more accessible, WLM or Thunderbird? Is
there another
one beside those. They are the ones I hear about.

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Sometimes, good allies are those who urge change or at
least trying
something new.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

You're a real ally, Kimsan. I have not experienced the
freeze until
the last week or so. I'm always telling people, "just
think, this time
next week, you'll have a brand new problem." Usually I'm
right.
Trouble is, guess what, it happens to me too - cheers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

That message freeze drives me bonkers.
With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you
had an issue
with, my work around is the same as yours where I copy and
paste.
My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and
not 2013.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the
first few
months that I had this computer, it was just wonderful to
be able to
click right onto any link sent; not so now. I have no idea
what caused
the change.

Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a
message freeze,
but immediately I got a solution - copy message, get out
of message,
start again, paste, and continue.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't know what program is being used but her message
said that
initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the
same program
is being used now, it certainly may be some problem with
her computer.
But we need more information to discuss the matter further
and perhaps
reach a conclusion.

Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It
is not
proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a
program in general. Your experience indicates that a more
general
problem may exist.
it is not a definite indication that a general problem
exists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7


No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses
outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.



At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar,
because pressing enter or spacebar on the link will not
simply launch
it.

In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to
be done, so
I doubt it's a computer issue.

It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I
did at the
start.



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7



But that is some sort of problem specific to your
computer.
Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your
computer. It
may not matter to you enough to experiment but you might
well be able
to work around whatever the problem is by using another
browser. It's
unfortunate that so many blind computer users appear so
resistant to
trying other browsers than Internet Explorer. If people
would just
try another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than
Chrome, they might be surprised how little they have to
learn in the
transition.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7



When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and
I clicked on any of them that came through, but now, I
have to wrestle
with them a lot of the time, and still can't get to the
intended
subject sent. It could be that if I put forth more effort
- but then,
there is more out there than struggling for a length that
is not going
to be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I
know.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show
the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I just did
this with
your current link, And was able to show the reader and
copy the text.
One thing you have to realize, is that some people are not
a fan of
clicking links. And if you were one of those people, six
strapped to
the group below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I
am also still
apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share
articles from all
the time. So have fun and enjoy.

Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind

* IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
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*

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On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...> >
wrote:

Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the
link is sent with the email. I realize some of you may not
be happy
about this, so will try and research alternatives. I used
to be on Mac
Daily News, but unsubscribed after getting the IDB app.
Thanks for
your suggestion.


On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
<kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...> >
wrote:

You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you
should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the
link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based
on the length
of this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
k-iphone-7/







































Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Carlos
 

Firefox is a web browser, not a mail client.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


I went to the web, looked at WLM, then Thunderbird, then at
Firefox. I love Firefox, going to get that. I've got to
check out for the night now, and tomorrow is my day out. So,
this is something to consider and try to work on over the
weekend. Any helpful suggestion will be appreciated.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Indeed yes, because things do not stay the same. It went
through my mind, what if I change, then that system has
problems? Then, well, what else is new? Find the one that
does not have the problem, right?

My biggest concern now is figuring how to make the change
and especially how to salvage all of my files.

Also, Which is more accessible, WLM or Thunderbird? Is there
another one beside those. They are the ones I hear about.

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Sometimes, good allies are those who urge change or at least
trying something new.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

You're a real ally, Kimsan. I have not experienced the
freeze until the last week or so. I'm always telling people,
"just think, this time next week, you'll have a brand new
problem." Usually I'm right. Trouble is, guess what, it
happens to me too - cheers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

That message freeze drives me bonkers.
With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had
an issue with, my work around is the same as yours where I
copy and paste.
My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and
not 2013.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the
first few months that I had this computer, it was just
wonderful to be able to click right onto any link sent; not
so now. I have no idea what caused the change.

Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a
message freeze, but immediately I got a solution - copy
message, get out of message, start again, paste, and
continue.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't know what program is being used but her message said
that initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the
same program is being used now, it certainly may be some
problem with her computer. But we need more information to
discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion.

Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It is
not proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a program in general. Your experience
indicates that a more general problem may exist.
it is not a definite indication that a general problem
exists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.



At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar, because pressing enter or spacebar on the link
will not simply launch it.

In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be
done, so I doubt it's a computer issue.

It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did
at the start.



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7



But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer.
Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your
computer. It may not matter to you enough to experiment but
you might well be able to work around whatever the problem
is by using another browser. It's unfortunate that so many
blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other
browsers than Internet Explorer. If people would just try
another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than Chrome, they might be surprised how little
they have to learn in the transition.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7



When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and I clicked on any of them that came through,
but now, I have to wrestle with them a lot of the time, and
still can't get to the intended subject sent. It could be
that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more
out there than struggling for a length that is not going to
be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
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<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I
just did this with your current link, And was able to show
the reader and copy the text. One thing you have to realize,
is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if
you were one of those people, six strapped to the group
below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still
apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles
from all the time. So have fun and enjoy.

Joseph Hudson
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...> >
wrote:

Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the link is sent with the email. I realize some of you
may not be happy about this, so will try and research
alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but
unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your
suggestion.


On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
<kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...> >
wrote:

You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to
click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on
the length of this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
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<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
k-iphone-7/






































"AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome" #article

Flor Lynch
 

(The URL for this entry is at the end.)

 

Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Macworld  /  Susie Ochs



I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.

When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard white plastic.

Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.

Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty impressive.

For Apple devices only

The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.

Susie Ochs

When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them automatically. See the little AirPods icon?

When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the idea is, you can pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs stored on your Apple Watch, and the AirPods will just switch.

Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke Siri. They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth headphones: No on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or call-answering buttons, and no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap to get Siri—this pauses your music, but you can at least say “turn up the volume” without fishing out your iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s a lot more awkward than just having volume controls built in.

Removing one AirPod from your ear while music is playing will automatically pause it, perfect for interacting with a cashier, barista, or nosy passerby who has questions about your AirPods. The auto-pausing effect is incredibly cool—I wish all my headphones did this. Just don’t remove both AirPods, or the audio playback will automatically switch back to your iPhone’s speakers, leaving you scrambling to pause it.

Power to go

The charging case is pretty neat on its own, too. It’s got a Lightning port in the back, and you can charge just the case on its own or the AirPods inside the case. That’s right—while the AirPods themselves get about 5 hours of playback per charge, according to Apple, the case has a battery, so you can top off on the go. The case has enough juice for about 24 hours of playback, Apple says, which means you could recharge the AirPods nearly five times before you have to plug the case into a power adapter or USB port to recharge. Apple says that popping the AirPods into the charging case for 15 minutes will get you another 3 hours of music—a tiny green LED inside the case lets you know the AirPods are charging. Keeping wireless headphones charged can be a major pain point—running out of battery mid-workout or mid-commute is the worst, so this could be a good solution.

Susie Ochs

Even though they look like the old EarPods with the wires removed, I found the AirPods much more comfortable.

The AirPods have a W1 chip inside to enable all this intelligence, and Apple built the same chip into a new lineup of Beats headphones too. The Beats Solo3 Wireless are over-the-ear headphones that have a more complete set of on-ear controls and 40 hours of battery life, available now for $300. The fitness-focused Powerbeats3 ($200) and everyday BeatsX ($150) launch later this year.

As for the AirPods themselves, sadly, they won’t launch with the iPhone 7. They’re due later in October, sold separately for $159. That’s steep compared to other Apple-branded earbuds—the company’s most high-end wired earbuds topped out at $99—but much more reasonable compared to wireless Beats or other high-end wireless models. iPhone 7 early adopters can use any Bluetooth headphones, of course, and Apple is also including two more solutions in the box: a wired pair of EarPods that connect to the iPhone’s Lightning port, and a Lightning-to–3.5mm adapter that lets you plug any standard wired headphones into the Lightning port.

We’ll have a full review of AirPods as soon as we can, and we’ll compare them to Beats and other wireless options in the same price range. Until then, any questions we can answer? Let us know in the comments.



Original Article: http://www.macworld.com/article/3117706/headphones/airpods-hands-on-they-stayed-in-my-ears-and-sounded-awesome.html#tk.rss_all

 


Re: Googling it

Gene
 

What you have access to and the way you block scripts depends on the browser you are using.  When using firefox, you can use an add on named no script.  I haven't checked to see what add ons may or may not be available for Chrome regarding scripts.  In both Chrome and Internet Explorer, you can block scripts by changing a setting in each browser but it appears to me that using noscript is by far more convenient unless Chrome has an add on I don't know about.
 
Gene
----- Original Message =-----

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

Hi Gene,

I haven’t heard of a script blocker. Is it a program you download? Or a change you make to your computer registry or something like that?

 

I am intrigued.

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

 

If you disable scripts. loading times may be much faster on some or many pages.  You won't see nearly as much advertising on many pages.  I would strongly suggest trying blocking scripts.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:45 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

 

Hi all,
Perhaps I shouldn't have named this subject "googling it." My problem is not with google. I love google. My problem is with various pages which come up when I google for something. They are often so big that JAWS says something like "there are 18 frames and 360 links." My problems are as follows:

1. These huge pages take forever to load.

2. Often the page refreshes which adds both the refresh time and then I am kicked back up to the top of the page and have to find where I was before.

3. Often the pages I go to, have only one or two paragraphs, and then I have to click to go to another page and begin the whole tedious process again.

4. I have tried copying the page and pasting it into an editing program to avoid all of the refreshing, but this is also annoying because there are so many blank lines that it is quite the process to find all of the article.

5. Many articles are interrupted again and again with google ads, icons for liking the page on Facebook Twitter, etc.

For these reasons, and perhaps others which I am not currently remembering, I love it when someone pastes an article into an email.

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

Hi all:

I find google very easy to use on my PC, my iPhone and my iPad too.

If you want an alternative search engine that doesn't track your
searches, try duckduckgo.  www.duckduckgo.com Like google, it's very
user-friendly and accessible.

I don't remember the URL, but I think google offers a version of its
search engine that has no ads.  Google offers it to blind users.

Victor

On 9/8/16, Jim Wohlgamuth <wohlggie@...> wrote:
> Hay FOLKS!
>
> Am wonndering what problems exactly you're having while using Google? I
> use Google regularly on my PC as well as my phone and my tablet and have
> no real trouble using it.  Quite the contrary, I find Google to be by
> far the easiest of any of the search engines to use.  Just wondering
> there you are having issues?  Catch Ya Later There! de
>
> <KF8LT><Jim>.  Google? I use
>
>
> On 08-Sep-16 15:29, Carlos wrote:
>> startpage.com uses the Google search engine.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Koppelmann"
>> <billmeister@...>
>> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:27 PM
>> Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Have you ever tried www.startpage.com? the only th ing I like google
>>> better for are trivia answers.
>>> Bill K.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>







Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Carolyn Arnold
 

I went to the web, looked at WLM, then Thunderbird, then at
Firefox. I love Firefox, going to get that. I've got to
check out for the night now, and tomorrow is my day out. So,
this is something to consider and try to work on over the
weekend. Any helpful suggestion will be appreciated.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Indeed yes, because things do not stay the same. It went
through my mind, what if I change, then that system has
problems? Then, well, what else is new? Find the one that
does not have the problem, right?

My biggest concern now is figuring how to make the change
and especially how to salvage all of my files.

Also, Which is more accessible, WLM or Thunderbird? Is there
another one beside those. They are the ones I hear about.

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Sometimes, good allies are those who urge change or at least
trying something new.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

You're a real ally, Kimsan. I have not experienced the
freeze until the last week or so. I'm always telling people,
"just think, this time next week, you'll have a brand new
problem." Usually I'm right. Trouble is, guess what, it
happens to me too - cheers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

That message freeze drives me bonkers.
With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had
an issue with, my work around is the same as yours where I
copy and paste.
My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and
not 2013.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the
first few months that I had this computer, it was just
wonderful to be able to click right onto any link sent; not
so now. I have no idea what caused the change.

Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a
message freeze, but immediately I got a solution - copy
message, get out of message, start again, paste, and
continue.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't know what program is being used but her message said
that initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the
same program is being used now, it certainly may be some
problem with her computer. But we need more information to
discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion.

Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It is
not proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a program in general. Your experience
indicates that a more general problem may exist.
it is not a definite indication that a general problem
exists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.



At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar, because pressing enter or spacebar on the link
will not simply launch it.

In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be
done, so I doubt it's a computer issue.

It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did
at the start.



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7



But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer.
Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your
computer. It may not matter to you enough to experiment but
you might well be able to work around whatever the problem
is by using another browser. It's unfortunate that so many
blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other
browsers than Internet Explorer. If people would just try
another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than Chrome, they might be surprised how little
they have to learn in the transition.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7



When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and I clicked on any of them that came through,
but now, I have to wrestle with them a lot of the time, and
still can't get to the intended subject sent. It could be
that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more
out there than struggling for a length that is not going to
be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I
just did this with your current link, And was able to show
the reader and copy the text. One thing you have to realize,
is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if
you were one of those people, six strapped to the group
below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still
apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles
from all the time. So have fun and enjoy.

Joseph Hudson
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...> >
wrote:

Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the link is sent with the email. I realize some of you
may not be happy about this, so will try and research
alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but
unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your
suggestion.


On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
<kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...> >
wrote:

You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to
click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on
the length of this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
k-iphone-7/


Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Carlos & Kassy,
 
I figured that my question would bring many varying opinions, but this is what I'm thinking.  Although I can get access to a couple of Android phones, but only for a few minutes at a time since they are the phones family & friends use, I would go to Verizon & see if I could purchase either phone, but not activate it, & play with it, the phone that is, for a week or 2, return it, try the other for a week or 2 so I could make a more informed decision on actual use rather than guessing.  Hopefully they might have demo phones that they can rent / lease out, for lack of a better term, so to speak for people like us to help us make a more informed choice.  Thanks much for your input.
 
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Hi Mike,
 
I'm not sure I can give you a useful answer.  You will most likely receive many varying opinions on this subject.  At one point I would have said the iPhone, but Android and TalkBack have come a long way.  I think the only way to really make an informed decision is to try them both yourself.  Personally, I will always choose Android, but more for the flexibility, not specifically for the accessibility.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Hi Carlos,
 
In your experience / opinion,In general  would you say the Android or the Apple phones are more accessible?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't consider myself an expert with any particular area of computer technology.  I consider myself a bit of a generalist.  I am certainly overall more familiar with Windows and Windows based PCs, but as you can see in the list archives if you care to look, I do keep myself informed about other computer related and electronic technology in general.  At one point or another, I have experimented with iPhones, Macs, Android, and several Linux distributions.  Although since my experience with some of the above is limited, I tend to let others who know more field related questions.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Old Carlos, I know that you've been around the technology world along time. I just didn't think headsets in general where your specialty. Your specialty as long as I've known you has been in computer programming. Particularly for windows. I started out like you did, in the Windows environment. Then I went into the Apple environment. Where are you I am very happy pleased with their very expensive technology and I'll try to convince others to investing it as well especially if it sounds like a great deal.
Joseph Hudson
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

No offense Joseph, but I think I have more than a passing familiarity with technology and I know when something is over priced.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Oh it's not necessary to apologize to me. Apologize to yourself that you don't have them. I am asking you to pay 159 form. What I am saying that you should think about that before you say that and look at the headphones and try them out and then you will more than likely understand why they're so expensive.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
Email
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after            removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:
Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and                ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>





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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Peter Spitz
 

When I listen privately on my iPhone to inherently low quality MP3’s and the iPhone’s built-in $2 Digital Analog Converter, I use a great pair of $8 Panasonic headphones that I buy five at a time from Amazon as I tend to break them when traveling.

 

When I want a near audiophile experience as a budget audiophile, I listen to only FLAC files fed into a $700 USB Digital Audio Converter feeding a $500 dedicated headphone tube amplifier feeding a $800 pair of HiFiMan HE 560 open back headphones.  .  I also own headphones in the $50/-$400 range just for fun, it’s a hobby of mine I suppose.  A true audiophile can spend literally ten thousand dollars on some Stax brand  top of the line headphones, using  thirty thousand dollars for a DAC and amp but that’s way too rich for me.

 

Bottom line, it’s a personal choice.  I use an iPhone 5C because I don’t need the latest and greatest iPhone and it’s easy for this totally blind non-techie to use.  BTW I think the Beats headphones are absolutely dreadful for $300. For that price you can get an inexpensive pair of BeyerDynamics, Sennheiser or – my personal favorite – HiFiMan headphones that blow the Beats away. 

 

 

Peter

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

And Beats aren't considered top headphones in terms of quality.  You are paying for a name and to be cool. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Flor Lynch

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Let me give ya somethin’ that beats that. Beats headphones, for $300. LOL from side to side!

 

From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:15 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

All I can say is that is a buck load of money for headphones…

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.

Joseph Hudson

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

 

Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <
lenron93@...>
To: <
main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>





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Re: Googling it

Carolyn Arnold
 

I agree. As much as I appreciate an article right there, I
do not expect it. When someone does that, they are doing a
favor.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

Hi TerriLynne,

You may be correct, but I honestly can't say whether I've
noticed a difference. I will have to pay more attention in
the future. For the record, I'm not saying that I don't
appreciate when someone is willing to make the effort to
post the text of an article, but I also don't want anyone to
feel as if they are obligated to do so. I consider it a
convenience, not a necessity. There could be several
reasons why someone might not include the text in the
message. They might not have the time, they might be
feeling lazy on a particular day, and so on.

----- Original Message -----
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:48 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it


I also have made the following observation and would
be interested to see if anyone has had a different
experience.



When a link is sent to the list, the discussion is
much more limited than when an actual article is sent. I
have always, perhaps incorrectly, assumed that this meant
that many readers, like myself, didn't go to the link, and
so the conversation is limited or even nonexistent.



TerriLynne


Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Carolyn Arnold
 

Indeed yes, because things do not stay the same. It went
through my mind, what if I change, then that system has
problems? Then, well, what else is new? Find the one that
does not have the problem, right?

My biggest concern now is figuring how to make the change
and especially how to salvage all of my files.

Also, Which is more accessible, WLM or Thunderbird? Is there
another one beside those. They are the ones I hear about.

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Sometimes, good allies are those who urge change or at least
trying something new.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

You're a real ally, Kimsan. I have not experienced the
freeze until the last week or so. I'm always telling people,
"just think, this time next week, you'll have a brand new
problem." Usually I'm right. Trouble is, guess what, it
happens to me too - cheers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

That message freeze drives me bonkers.
With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had
an issue with, my work around is the same as yours where I
copy and paste.
My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and
not 2013.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the
first few months that I had this computer, it was just
wonderful to be able to click right onto any link sent; not
so now. I have no idea what caused the change.

Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a
message freeze, but immediately I got a solution - copy
message, get out of message, start again, paste, and
continue.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't know what program is being used but her message said
that initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the
same program is being used now, it certainly may be some
problem with her computer. But we need more information to
discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion.

Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It is
not proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a program in general. Your experience
indicates that a more general problem may exist.
it is not a definite indication that a general problem
exists.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.



At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar, because pressing enter or spacebar on the link
will not simply launch it.

In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be
done, so I doubt it's a computer issue.

It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did
at the start.



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7



But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer.
Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your
computer. It may not matter to you enough to experiment but
you might well be able to work around whatever the problem
is by using another browser. It's unfortunate that so many
blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other
browsers than Internet Explorer. If people would just try
another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than Chrome, they might be surprised how little
they have to learn in the transition.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7



When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and I clicked on any of them that came through,
but now, I have to wrestle with them a lot of the time, and
still can't get to the intended subject sent. It could be
that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more
out there than struggling for a length that is not going to
be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I
just did this with your current link, And was able to show
the reader and copy the text. One thing you have to realize,
is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if
you were one of those people, six strapped to the group
below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still
apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles
from all the time. So have fun and enjoy.

Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind

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On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...> >
wrote:

Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the link is sent with the email. I realize some of you
may not be happy about this, so will try and research
alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but
unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your
suggestion.


On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
<kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...> >
wrote:

You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to
click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on
the length of this email.

Kimsan Song
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Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
vision: why Apple removed the
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Re: Samsung Galaxy S-7

Edmond <gocloud84@...>
 

Even on iPhone, one cannot enable VoiceOver on an already configured phone. Yes, you can use iTunes, but that nay not be available in all situation. Also, if your phone is password protected, even iTunes can't help you.
Just FYI

On 9/8/2016 5:14 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
No problem. Your meaning was clear!
If a blind person were borrowing (or receiving) it already having been
used by a sighted person, could the blind person accessibly adapt it?

*From:* Kassy <mailto:kasandratoo@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:56 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7
Thanks but I am embarrassed about the misspellings in the message. I am
usually better at checking. This phone can be set up totally without any
sighted assistance.

*From:* Flor Lynch <mailto:florlync@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:23 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7

This is good info to know.
*From:* Kassy <mailto:kasandratoo@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:50 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7
Mike, To turn on Talk back from the initial start up:
This needs to be done the very first time you power up the phone. Press
and hold the the power button for about 7 seconds to power on. I believe
the device will give a slight vibrations when powering on.
Wait a few seconds for the set up screen to come on (you just have to
guess on this one since of course you can’t see it.
Then place two fingers on the screen and just hold them there.
Eventually, the device will prompt you with speech to continue to hold
the fingers on the screen until Talk Back is enabled. Once Talk Back is
enabled you will have speech to finish your set up.
I have done this sever times with good success.
Goo luck and this is a very popular Android phone.


*From:* Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:33 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy S-7

Hi All,

We're looking into getting into the 21st century by getting smart
phones, but we don't know whether to go iPhone or Android. A friend of
mine has a Samsung Galaxy S-7 that he'll let me play around with, but
would someone please give me steps on how to turn on it's screen reading
function? He doesn't know how, & I sure as hell don't have a clue!
LOL All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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