Date   

Re: Googling it

Gene
 

But that may not mean that results are shown in the same order.  this may be particularly true because Google tries to learn about what your interests are and shows you results in order based on your interests.  I don't want Google to do this and (I don't use Google when signed into my google account and I block most cookies mainly because that keepps me from worrying if I am attracting any tracking cookies I don't want.  But I may be seeing results that are not tailored to me as well.  I don't want tailored results because tailored results reinforce what you already may think rather than expose me to other information that may challenge what I already think or know about.  I don't know if Start Page tailors results but I really object to the practice.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

startpage.com uses the Google search engine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Koppelmann" <billmeister@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it


> Hi,
> Have you ever tried www.startpage.com? the only th ing I like google
> better for are trivia answers.
> Bill K.
>
>
>




Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Gene
 

Apple overprices as a matter of course so why should this be different?  That isn't to say that I might not get an IPhone, it would depend if I considered whatever advantages it might have to be worth the overpricing after doing some investigation.  But Apple is known for overpricing.  and as far as headphones are concerned, I'm very skeptical that roughly equivalent ones are available for considerably less. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

No offense Joseph, but I think I have more than a passing familiarity with technology and I know when something is over priced.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Oh it's not necessary to apologize to me. Apologize to yourself that you don't have them. I am asking you to pay 159 form. What I am saying that you should think about that before you say that and look at the headphones and try them out and then you will more than likely understand why they're so expensive.
Joseph Hudson
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
Joseph Hudson
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:
Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>





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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Carlos
 


Hi Mike,
 
I'm not sure I can give you a useful answer.  You will most likely receive many varying opinions on this subject.  At one point I would have said the iPhone, but Android and TalkBack have come a long way.  I think the only way to really make an informed decision is to try them both yourself.  Personally, I will always choose Android, but more for the flexibility, not specifically for the accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Hi Carlos,
 
In your experience / opinion,In general  would you say the Android or the Apple phones are more accessible?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't consider myself an expert with any particular area of computer technology.  I consider myself a bit of a generalist.  I am certainly overall more familiar with Windows and Windows based PCs, but as you can see in the list archives if you care to look, I do keep myself informed about other computer related and electronic technology in general.  At one point or another, I have experimented with iPhones, Macs, Android, and several Linux distributions.  Although since my experience with some of the above is limited, I tend to let others who know more field related questions.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Old Carlos, I know that you've been around the technology world along time. I just didn't think headsets in general where your specialty. Your specialty as long as I've known you has been in computer programming. Particularly for windows. I started out like you did, in the Windows environment. Then I went into the Apple environment. Where are you I am very happy pleased with their very expensive technology and I'll try to convince others to investing it as well especially if it sounds like a great deal.
Joseph Hudson
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

No offense Joseph, but I think I have more than a passing familiarity with technology and I know when something is over priced.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Oh it's not necessary to apologize to me. Apologize to yourself that you don't have them. I am asking you to pay 159 form. What I am saying that you should think about that before you say that and look at the headphones and try them out and then you will more than likely understand why they're so expensive.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
Twitter

FaceTime/iMessage

On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after            removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:
Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
Email
jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
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jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and                ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>





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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Gene
 

An audiophile might pay that much but for the typical listener, the word ridiculous sums things up.  Headphone technology has matured and improved significantly since I was young a long time ago.  I haven't systematically priced and compared headphones, but I just bought a pair of fifty dollar headphones that sound really good.  I didn't do a systematic comparison, but I compared them to a 130 dollar  pair of headphones and I didn't see a significant difference. 
 
That isn't to say that a more thorough comparison might not yield a significant difference but these headphones I find very satisfactory since I'm not looking for audiophile quality.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

All I can say is that is a buck load of money for headphones…

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.

Joseph Hudson

group owner for iPad help for the blind

Email

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

 

Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <
lenron93@...>
To: <
main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
Email
jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
I device support
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FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
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Re: Googling it

Carlos
 

Also, I don't know what you have already tried to solve the problem, but if you are running JAWS, you can disable page refresh altogether.  Press Insert V, arrow down to
"Page Refresh"
and press the Spacebar a couple of times to toggle it off.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

I'm not sure why you are having the problems you are describing.  At times, a page will refresh but I suspect you can stop this in firefox most easily.  However, if you are using Firefox. one way to stop page refreshes is to use a script blocker.  I believe that will stop all page refreshes.  that's probably the easiest way to stop all refreshes, regardless of screen-reader being used.  It also is safer browsing with scripts disabled.  My recollection, from the very little I looked at the no script add on is that it is fast and easy to allow scripts to run or to set it to block all scripts.  Many sites require scripts to do what you want but just for reading information, a lot of sites can be used with scripts blocked.  And they may load much more quickly.  The New York Times loads much more quickly when I have scripts blocked, regardless of browser and screen-reader being used.  You can tailor settings in a lot of ways using the no script add on with Firefox, but I'm discussing the ways that require the least learning even if unblocking everything doesn't give you as much protection as tailoring settings.  I never have any pages refresh when I don't allow scripts to run. 
 
Gene. 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

I hope I don’t get flack for changing the subject, but I want to specifically comment on googling it rather than on the cblue tooth buds.

 

I love to google things. But lately, I am more reluctant to do so because of things such as pages refreshing while I am in the middle of reading something, or finding only the first paragraph, then having to click to a next page and find my place again.

 

I am truly grateful for the opportunities technology offers me as a blind person, but sometimes the updates and new features drive me a little crazy.

 

I admit that it is unfortunate, but I do prefer to have the article in the email for assured ease of access.

 

TerriLynne

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

I try to discourage blatantly harsh or rude quote unquote "Google it" comments.  There is nothing wrong with occasionally gently encouraging members to try finding their own answers, but it shouldn't be anyone's default response and not all information can be easily found with a Google search.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 6:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Both.

 

Someone could do something for me, I could observe to see how it’s done and then do it myself.

 

The latter, some hesitate to ask, especially on a mailing list when the commonality is “google it”.

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Do people learn by doing things for them or by encouraging them to do things for themselves and answering questions if they need help. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Pat Seed

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:23 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled for.

Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There have been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much they know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with the link. It is Very Much Appreciated.

Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL 

 

 

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016 

 

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

 

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless earbuds called AirPods.

 

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on: courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision for mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

 

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we all want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create something new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

 

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say it’s because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced multiple new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

 

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Gene
 

You should be able to use Windows Live Mail and Thunderbird indefinitely. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Carlos, what is your recommendation as an alternative to
Outlook, an alternative that will stay around? Also, what
does one do to get another email client? Is there some way
to download it and it over ride the present one? Would the
contacts be picked up by the new one? I paid to have my
contacts imported, but had to edit them for Outlook. About
half way through, the last half just disappeared. Thankfully
enough, I had a copy of my contact addresses in a word file,
so had to do about 50 or so of them from scratch.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Honestly, if Outlook causes that many problems, I would just
use something else.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


> That message freeze drives me bonkers.
> With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you
had an issue
> with, my work around is the same as yours where I copy and
paste.
> My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and
not 2013.
> Kimsan Song
> kimsansong@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
> the headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
> My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
> 2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the
first few
> months that I had this computer, it was just wonderful to
be able to
> click right onto any link sent; not so now. I have no idea
what caused the change.
>
> Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a
message freeze,
> but immediately I got a solution - copy message, get out
of message,
> start again, paste, and continue.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
> the headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
> I don't know what program is being used but her message
said that
> initially, links were more friendly.  Assuming that the
same program
> is being used now, it certainly may be some problem with
her computer. 
> But we need more information to discuss the matter further
and perhaps
> reach a conclusion.
>
> Also, you are discussing your experience as one user.  It
is not
> proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a
> program in general.  Your experience indicates that a more
general problem may exist.
> it is not a definite indication that a general problem
exists.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
> the headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
>
> No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses
> outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.
>
>
>
> At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar,
> because pressing enter or spacebar on the link will not
simply launch it.
>
> In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to
be done, so
> I doubt it's a computer issue.
>
> It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I
did at the start.
>
>
>
> Kimsan Song
>
> kimsansong@...
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
> the headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
>
>
> But that is some sort of problem specific to your
computer.
> Links were not more friendly.  Something changed in your
computer.  It
> may not matter to you enough to experiment but you might
well be able
> to work around whatever the problem is by using another
browser.  It's
> unfortunate that so many blind computer users appear so
resistant to
> trying other browsers than Internet Explorer.  If people
would just
> try another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than
> Chrome, they might be surprised how little they have to
learn in the
> transition.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
> the headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
>
>
> When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and
> I clicked on any of them that came through, but now, I
have to wrestle
> with them a lot of the time, and still can't get to the
intended subject sent.
> It
> could be that if I put forth more effort - but then, there
is more out
> there than struggling for a length that is not going to be
a life
> saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed
> the headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
> Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show
> the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I just did
this with
> your current link, And was able to show the reader and
copy the text.
> One thing you have to realize, is that some people are not
a fan of
> clicking links. And if you were one of those people, six
strapped to
> the group below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I
am also still
> apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share
articles from all
> the time. So have fun and enjoy.
>
> Joseph Hudson
> group owner for iPad help for the blind
>
> * IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
> <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
> <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
> *
>
> Email
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
> <mailto:jhud7789@...> I device support Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
> <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
> <challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
> <mailto:challsworth2@...> >
> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the
> link is sent with the email. I realize some of you may not
be happy
> about this, so will try and research alternatives. I used
to be on Mac
> Daily News, but unsubscribed after getting the IDB app.
Thanks for
> your suggestion.
>
>
> On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
> <kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
> <mailto:kimsansong@...> >
> wrote:
>
> You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you
> should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the
link.
>
> Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based
on the length
> of this email.
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
> <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
> vision: why Apple removed the
> headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
>
>
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
> k-iphone-7/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>








Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Gene
 

It's nice to see another message urging what I urged.  Maybe two people will be more convincing than one. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Honestly, if Outlook causes that many problems, I would just use something
else.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


> That message freeze drives me bonkers.
> With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had an issue with,
> my work around is the same as yours where I copy and paste.
> My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and not 2013.
> Kimsan Song
> kimsansong@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
> headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
> My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
> 2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the first few months
> that I had this computer, it was just wonderful to be able to click right
> onto any link sent; not so now. I have no idea what caused the change.
>
> Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a message freeze, but
> immediately I got a solution - copy message, get out of message, start
> again, paste, and continue.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
> headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
> I don't know what program is being used but her message said that
> initially,
> links were more friendly.  Assuming that the same program is being used
> now,
> it certainly may be some problem with her computer.  But we need more
> information to discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion.
>
> Also, you are discussing your experience as one user.  It is not proper to
> generalize from one users experience to the performance of a program in
> general.  Your experience indicates that a more general problem may exist.
> it is not a definite indication that a general problem exists.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
> headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
>
> No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think she uses outlook
> 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.
>
>
>
> At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the address bar,
> because pressing enter or spacebar on the link will not simply launch it.
>
> In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be done, so I
> doubt it's a computer issue.
>
> It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did at the start.
>
>
>
> Kimsan Song
>
> kimsansong@...
>
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
> headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
>
>
> But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer.
> Links were not more friendly.  Something changed in your computer.  It may
> not matter to you enough to experiment but you might well be able to work
> around whatever the problem is by using another browser.  It's unfortunate
> that so many blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other
> browsers than Internet Explorer.  If people would just try another
> browser,
> Firefox is more similar to Internet Explorer than Chrome, they might be
> surprised how little they have to learn in the transition.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM
>
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
> headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
>
>
> When I first got my computer last year, links were more friendly, and I
> clicked on any of them that came through, but now, I have to wrestle with
> them a lot of the time, and still can't get to the intended subject sent.
> It
> could be that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more out
> there
> than struggling for a length that is not going to be a life saver or a
> money
> maker for me or anyone I know.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
> headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
> Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and then show the
> reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I just did this with your
> current
> link, And was able to show the reader and copy the text. One thing you
> have
> to realize, is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if
> you
> were one of those people, six strapped to the group below. I will be
> sharing
> stuff like this and I am also still apart of Matt daily news which Chris
> used to share articles from all the time. So have fun and enjoy.
>
> Joseph Hudson
> group owner for iPad help for the blind
>
> * IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
> <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
> <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
> *
>
> Email
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> <mailto:jhud7789@...>
> I
> device support Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89
>
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> <mailto:jhud7789@...>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
> <challsworth2@...
> <mailto:challsworth2@...> <mailto:challsworth2@...> >
> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing, only the link
> is
> sent with the email. I realize some of you may not be happy about this, so
> will try and research alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but
> unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your suggestion.
>
>
> On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
> <kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
> <mailto:kimsansong@...> >
> wrote:
>
> You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
> should
> paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.
>
> Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length of
> this email.
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
> <mailto:kimsansong@...>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
> vision: why Apple removed the
> headphone jack in iPhone 7
>
>
> http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
> k-iphone-7/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Googling it

Carlos
 

Hi TerriLynne,
 
You may be correct, but I honestly can't say whether I've noticed a difference.  I will have to pay more attention in the future.  For the record, I'm not saying that I don't appreciate when someone is willing to make the effort to post the text of an article, but I also don't want anyone to feel as if they are obligated to do so.  I consider it a convenience, not a necessity.  There could be several reasons why someone might not include the text in the message.  They might not have the time, they might be feeling lazy on a particular day, and so on.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:48 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it

I also have made the following observation and would be interested to see if anyone has had a different experience.

 

When a link is sent to the list, the discussion is much more limited than when an actual article is sent. I have always, perhaps incorrectly, assumed that this meant that many readers, like myself, didn’t go to the link, and so the conversation is limited or even nonexistent.

 

TerriLynne


Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Gene
 

Sometimes, good allies are those who urge change or at least trying something new. 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

You're a real ally, Kimsan. I have not experienced the
freeze until the last week or so. I'm always telling people,
"just think, this time next week, you'll have a brand new
problem." Usually I'm right. Trouble is, guess what, it
happens to me too - cheers.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

That message freeze drives me bonkers.
With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had
an issue with, my work around is the same as yours where I
copy and paste.
My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and
not 2013.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office
2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the
first few months that I had this computer, it was just
wonderful to be able to click right onto any link sent; not
so now. I have no idea what caused the change.

Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a
message freeze, but immediately I got a solution - copy
message, get out of message, start again, paste, and
continue.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't know what program is being used but her message said
that initially, links were more friendly.  Assuming that the
same program is being used now, it certainly may be some
problem with her computer.  But we need more information to
discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion.
 
Also, you are discussing your experience as one user.  It is
not proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a program in general.  Your experience
indicates that a more general problem may exist.
it is not a definite indication that a general problem
exists.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7


No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.

 

At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar, because pressing enter or spacebar on the link
will not simply launch it.

In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be
done, so I doubt it's a computer issue.

It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did
at the start.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer.
Links were not more friendly.  Something changed in your
computer.  It may not matter to you enough to experiment but
you might well be able to work around whatever the problem
is by using another browser.  It's unfortunate that so many
blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other
browsers than Internet Explorer.  If people would just try
another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than Chrome, they might be surprised how little
they have to learn in the transition. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and I clicked on any of them that came through,
but now, I have to wrestle with them a lot of the time, and
still can't get to the intended subject sent. It could be
that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more
out there than struggling for a length that is not going to
be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I
just did this with your current link, And was able to show
the reader and copy the text. One thing you have to realize,
is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if
you were one of those people, six strapped to the group
below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still
apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles
from all the time. So have fun and enjoy.

Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind

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On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...> >
wrote:

Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the link is sent with the email. I realize some of you
may not be happy about this, so will try and research
alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but
unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your
suggestion.


On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
<kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...> >
wrote:

You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to
click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on
the length of this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
k-iphone-7/






























Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Gene
 

Maybe it's time to try Windows Live Mail or thunderbird.  Why continue using a program that has these problems?
 
If desired, you can leave your current e-mail program as the default until you decide if you want to use either of these other programs.
gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Thanks, Kimsan, you are right on with my specific issues. It
is encouraging to know that it could be, probably is, an
Outlook problem.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Gene:

 

I've been on several lists, and seen several emails from
different users discussing this links issue with outlook
2013 so no I'm not just talking about my own experience.

You don't know what program is being used, and with emails
I've seen from her in the past, I know she uses 2013.

If everything is working for her now, great.

I'll stop talking on her behalf now because it's to early
for me lol.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

I don't know what program is being used but her message said
that initially, links were more friendly.  Assuming that the
same program is being used now, it certainly may be some
problem with her computer.  But we need more information to
discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion.

 

Also, you are discussing your experience as one user.  It is
not proper to generalize from one users experience to the
performance of a program in general.  Your experience
indicates that a more general problem may exist.  it is not
a definite indication that a general problem exists.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think
she uses outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle.

 

At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the
address bar, because pressing enter or spacebar on the link
will not simply launch it.

In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be
done, so I doubt it's a computer issue.

It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did
at the start.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer.
Links were not more friendly.  Something changed in your
computer.  It may not matter to you enough to experiment but
you might well be able to work around whatever the problem
is by using another browser.  It's unfortunate that so many
blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other
browsers than Internet Explorer.  If people would just try
another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet
Explorer than Chrome, they might be surprised how little
they have to learn in the transition. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

When I first got my computer last year, links were more
friendly, and I clicked on any of them that came through,
but now, I have to wrestle with them a lot of the time, and
still can't get to the intended subject sent. It could be
that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more
out there than struggling for a length that is not going to
be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why
Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and
then show the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I
just did this with your current link, And was able to show
the reader and copy the text. One thing you have to realize,
is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if
you were one of those people, six strapped to the group
below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still
apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles
from all the time. So have fun and enjoy.

Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind

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On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...>
<mailto:challsworth2@...> >
wrote:

Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing,
only the link is sent with the email. I realize some of you
may not be happy about this, so will try and research
alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but
unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your
suggestion.


On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan
<kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...> >
wrote:

You should paste the article or every time you send a link
Chris, you should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to
click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on
the length of this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>
<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and
vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac
k-iphone-7/






















Re: Googling it

Gene
 

I'm not sure why you are having the problems you are describing.  At times, a page will refresh but I suspect you can stop this in firefox most easily.  However, if you are using Firefox. one way to stop page refreshes is to use a script blocker.  I believe that will stop all page refreshes.  that's probably the easiest way to stop all refreshes, regardless of screen-reader being used.  It also is safer browsing with scripts disabled.  My recollection, from the very little I looked at the no script add on is that it is fast and easy to allow scripts to run or to set it to block all scripts.  Many sites require scripts to do what you want but just for reading information, a lot of sites can be used with scripts blocked.  And they may load much more quickly.  The New York Times loads much more quickly when I have scripts blocked, regardless of browser and screen-reader being used.  You can tailor settings in a lot of ways using the no script add on with Firefox, but I'm discussing the ways that require the least learning even if unblocking everything doesn't give you as much protection as tailoring settings.  I never have any pages refresh when I don't allow scripts to run. 
 
Gene. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

I hope I don’t get flack for changing the subject, but I want to specifically comment on googling it rather than on the cblue tooth buds.

 

I love to google things. But lately, I am more reluctant to do so because of things such as pages refreshing while I am in the middle of reading something, or finding only the first paragraph, then having to click to a next page and find my place again.

 

I am truly grateful for the opportunities technology offers me as a blind person, but sometimes the updates and new features drive me a little crazy.

 

I admit that it is unfortunate, but I do prefer to have the article in the email for assured ease of access.

 

TerriLynne

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

I try to discourage blatantly harsh or rude quote unquote "Google it" comments.  There is nothing wrong with occasionally gently encouraging members to try finding their own answers, but it shouldn't be anyone's default response and not all information can be easily found with a Google search.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 6:20 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Both.

 

Someone could do something for me, I could observe to see how it’s done and then do it myself.

 

The latter, some hesitate to ask, especially on a mailing list when the commonality is “google it”.

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Do people learn by doing things for them or by encouraging them to do things for themselves and answering questions if they need help. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Pat Seed

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:23 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled for.

Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There have been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much they know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with the link. It is Very Much Appreciated.

Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL 

 

 

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016 

 

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

 

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless earbuds called AirPods.

 

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on: courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision for mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

 

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we all want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create something new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

 

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say it’s because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced multiple new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

 

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

 

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/





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Re: Googling it

Carolyn Arnold
 

Makes sense to me.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of TerriLynne
Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it

I also have made the following observation and would be
interested to see if anyone has had a different experience.



When a link is sent to the list, the discussion is much more
limited than when an actual article is sent. I have always,
perhaps incorrectly, assumed that this meant that many
readers, like myself, didn't go to the link, and so the
conversation is limited or even nonexistent.



TerriLynne


Re: Googling it

Carolyn Arnold
 

I hate all that jumping around. I usually get hymns, stock prices or brief answers on Google, like where is the area code 808 located or something like that, what is the population of Smithville, Texas? However, even my sighted husband forbears some of the longer stuff, because he likes to do a lot of research, and he says sometimes that he has to wait for the rest to come up or something, but of course, he can jump and click, as soon as the rest of what he wants is in sight, where we have to play a game of chase - not my idea of a really good time, thanks all the same.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

Hi all,
Perhaps I shouldn't have named this subject "googling it." My problem is not with google. I love google. My problem is with various pages which come up when I google for something. They are often so big that JAWS says something like "there are 18 frames and 360 links." My problems are as follows:

1. These huge pages take forever to load.

2. Often the page refreshes which adds both the refresh time and then I am kicked back up to the top of the page and have to find where I was before.

3. Often the pages I go to, have only one or two paragraphs, and then I have to click to go to another page and begin the whole tedious process again.

4. I have tried copying the page and pasting it into an editing program to avoid all of the refreshing, but this is also annoying because there are so many blank lines that it is quite the process to find all of the article.

5. Many articles are interrupted again and again with google ads, icons for liking the page on Facebook Twitter, etc.

For these reasons, and perhaps others which I am not currently remembering, I love it when someone pastes an article into an email.

TerriLynne


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

Hi all:

I find google very easy to use on my PC, my iPhone and my iPad too.

If you want an alternative search engine that doesn't track your searches, try duckduckgo. www.duckduckgo.com Like google, it's very user-friendly and accessible.

I don't remember the URL, but I think google offers a version of its search engine that has no ads. Google offers it to blind users.

Victor

On 9/8/16, Jim Wohlgamuth <wohlggie@...> wrote:
Hay FOLKS!

Am wonndering what problems exactly you're having while using Google?
I use Google regularly on my PC as well as my phone and my tablet and
have no real trouble using it. Quite the contrary, I find Google to
be by far the easiest of any of the search engines to use. Just
wondering there you are having issues? Catch Ya Later There! de

<KF8LT><Jim>. Google? I use


On 08-Sep-16 15:29, Carlos wrote:
startpage.com uses the Google search engine.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Koppelmann"
<billmeister@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it


Hi,
Have you ever tried www.startpage.com? the only th ing I like google
better for are trivia answers.
Bill K.





Re: downloading using internet explorer/how to stop the list of previously downloaded files from showing

Veronica Kirk
 

This only happens when I am downloading from send space.  When trying to download before it will think about downloading one has to use Control-J and then you get a warning from smart screen filter and then you see a list of downloads.  

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] downloading using internet explorer/how to stop the list of previously downloaded files from showing

 

I'm skeptical.  If the download is not safe, your antimalware program should tell you.  or the smart screen filter may warn you.  But showing the list of downloads is a behavior I have never heard discussed as expected when Internet explorer sees an unsafe download and it would be illogical for this to be the response.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 8:09 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] downloading using internet explorer/how to stop the list of previously downloaded files from showing

 

Interesting.  I use a download manager so I may not have noticed this
behavior.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Veronica Kirk" <veronicaa.kirk@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] downloading using internet explorer/how to stop the
list of previously downloaded files from showing


> If it is an unsafe download that is what happens.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
> Of
> Carlos
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 6:04 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] downloading using internet explorer/how to stop
> the
> list of previously downloaded files from showing
>
> You can clear the list, but that does not explain why the "View Downloads"
> dialog is being displayed instead of the information bar when pressing
> Alt+N.  This is not standard or expected behavior.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@...>
> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 6:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] downloading using internet explorer/how to stop
> the
> list of previously downloaded files from showing
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> RE getting rid of previous downloads in the window.  I thought I
>> remember seeing a clear queue button or something of the sort.
>>
>> Ann P.
>>
>> --
>> Ann K. Parsons
>> Portal Tutoring
>> ** New EMAIL:  akp@...
>> web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
>> Skype: Putertutor
>>
>> "All that is gold does not glitter,
>> Not all those who wander are lost."
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Carlos,
 
In your experience / opinion,In general  would you say the Android or the Apple phones are more accessible?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I don't consider myself an expert with any particular area of computer technology.  I consider myself a bit of a generalist.  I am certainly overall more familiar with Windows and Windows based PCs, but as you can see in the list archives if you care to look, I do keep myself informed about other computer related and electronic technology in general.  At one point or another, I have experimented with iPhones, Macs, Android, and several Linux distributions.  Although since my experience with some of the above is limited, I tend to let others who know more field related questions.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Old Carlos, I know that you've been around the technology world along time. I just didn't think headsets in general where your specialty. Your specialty as long as I've known you has been in computer programming. Particularly for windows. I started out like you did, in the Windows environment. Then I went into the Apple environment. Where are you I am very happy pleased with their very expensive technology and I'll try to convince others to investing it as well especially if it sounds like a great deal.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
Email
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Telephone
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

No offense Joseph, but I think I have more than a passing familiarity with technology and I know when something is over priced.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Oh it's not necessary to apologize to me. Apologize to yourself that you don't have them. I am asking you to pay 159 form. What I am saying that you should think about that before you say that and look at the headphones and try them out and then you will more than likely understand why they're so expensive.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
Email
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Telephone
2543007667
Skype
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FaceTime/iMessage

On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
Twitter

FaceTime/iMessage

On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after            removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:
Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
Email
jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...>
On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and                ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>





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Re: best podcatcher

Edmond <gocloud84@...>
 

OKOK! Got that! Don't spam my inbox!

On 9/8/2016 2:25 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
Podcast *cathcer* means podcast *receiver*.

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] best podcatcher

Well that is for listening only? I think they are looking for produce
podcast.
I can recommend GoldWave.

On 9/8/2016 2:17 PM, Chris G wrote:
Hi,
QCast works well:
www.getaccessibleapps.com/qcast

Note: it isn't free.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Billy Inglis
Sent: Thursday, Sep 8, 2016 10:26 AM EST
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] best podcatcher

hi guys, I'm looking for the most accessible podcatcher for windows10?,
Billy










Re: e-mail programs

Carlos
 


In general you won't notice a difference, but it will when clicking on "mail to" links, trying to attach files via the
"Mail recipient"
item in the
"Send to"
menu, and so on.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] e-mail programs

It is not my default client  now! Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] e-mail programs

Also, if you are using the older free version, you cannot make it the default client in Windows 10 which might cause some problems.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] e-mail programs

It should work, but without the JAWS scripts some things may not be spoken correctly such as the unread status and the state of checkboxes when creating message rules.  Also, Outlook Express can be flakey and has a tendency to corrupt the mailbox files so I don't recommend it.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:23 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] e-mail programs

So I am using oe6_1.5.1.exe on my win 10 machine. So this does not work when you have to upgrade to the latest 10?  I mainly use my i devices but, I use this program on my windows desktop!  Just wanted to know! I have jaws17 latest! I did not need jaws scrips for the program to work at all! Heather
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7

Hi Carolyn,
 
Unfortunately, I don't have any suggestions other than the usual ones such as Windows Live Mail and Thunderbird.  You may or may not consider these acceptable alternatives, but when your current choice is causing enough problems, you eventually reach a point of diminishing returns.  Most clients can at least import contacts exported to a CSV file from another client.  I don't have the details at the moment, but you can usually perform a repair on Office applications so that might also be an option worth investigating.


Googling it

Terrilynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

I also have made the following observation and would be interested to see if anyone has had a different experience.

 

When a link is sent to the list, the discussion is much more limited than when an actual article is sent. I have always, perhaps incorrectly, assumed that this meant that many readers, like myself, didn’t go to the link, and so the conversation is limited or even nonexistent.

 

TerriLynne


Re: Googling it

Terrilynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

Hi all,
Perhaps I shouldn't have named this subject "googling it." My problem is not with google. I love google. My problem is with various pages which come up when I google for something. They are often so big that JAWS says something like "there are 18 frames and 360 links." My problems are as follows:

1. These huge pages take forever to load.

2. Often the page refreshes which adds both the refresh time and then I am kicked back up to the top of the page and have to find where I was before.

3. Often the pages I go to, have only one or two paragraphs, and then I have to click to go to another page and begin the whole tedious process again.

4. I have tried copying the page and pasting it into an editing program to avoid all of the refreshing, but this is also annoying because there are so many blank lines that it is quite the process to find all of the article.

5. Many articles are interrupted again and again with google ads, icons for liking the page on Facebook Twitter, etc.

For these reasons, and perhaps others which I am not currently remembering, I love it when someone pastes an article into an email.

TerriLynne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it

Hi all:

I find google very easy to use on my PC, my iPhone and my iPad too.

If you want an alternative search engine that doesn't track your
searches, try duckduckgo. www.duckduckgo.com Like google, it's very
user-friendly and accessible.

I don't remember the URL, but I think google offers a version of its
search engine that has no ads. Google offers it to blind users.

Victor

On 9/8/16, Jim Wohlgamuth <wohlggie@...> wrote:
Hay FOLKS!

Am wonndering what problems exactly you're having while using Google? I
use Google regularly on my PC as well as my phone and my tablet and have
no real trouble using it. Quite the contrary, I find Google to be by
far the easiest of any of the search engines to use. Just wondering
there you are having issues? Catch Ya Later There! de

<KF8LT><Jim>. Google? I use


On 08-Sep-16 15:29, Carlos wrote:
startpage.com uses the Google search engine.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Koppelmann"
<billmeister@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:27 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it


Hi,
Have you ever tried www.startpage.com? the only th ing I like google
better for are trivia answers.
Bill K.





Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 #article

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

I think the main thing to keep in mind is that not everyone wants the same thing from their headsets. I personally didn't mind all that much paying the price I did for my bose headset I have for my IPhone, but would I suggest everyone to go out and get one, no!

I honestly can't give an ipinion on the upcoming apple wireless headset, but from what I've read of it so far, I'd not be in any hurry to hop out and spend that kind of money for it. Most especially with it only having a charge time of 5 or so hours, nah, that kind of sucks, me thinks.





On 09/08/2016 03:35 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
Hi Flora, I hope you're message makes Carlos feel little bit better seems have you put that price out about the beats headphones now I can see not paying dollars 300. But dollar 150? I'll pay that any day for a pair of headphones especially it's going to last me are very long time.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
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Twitter

FaceTime/iMessage

On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Flor Lynch <florlync@...> wrote:

Let me give ya somethin’ that beats that. Beats headphones, for $300. LOL from side to side! 
 
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
All I can say is that is a buck load of money for headphones…
 
Kimsan Song
 
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
 
Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities.  I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
 
I think you should think about the capability of these headphones before you say that. Why don't you go to Best Buy and look at the age of 800 from Best Buy whenever it first came out it was dollar 100. And it offers the same capability, as hey new apple ear pods.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind 
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
Twitter
 
FaceTime/iMessage
 
On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
 
Yeah, and $159 for wireless headphones is ridiculous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <
lenron93@...>
To: <
main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


lol I know right it's lovely. Such away to try to drain pockets. With
only a 5 hour battery um those things suck.

On 9/8/16, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

LOL and isn't it so nice of Apple that they just happened to release
wireless AirPods along with their new iPhone after removing the headphone
jack.  And even better, you get to pay $159 for the privilege of owning
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7


I hate this stupid idea. I just don't think wireless is there yet.
Also I don't want to have to use bluetooth headsets all the time.
Batteries die at least with my old 3.5 headphones not a problem. Yes I
get that they put an adapter in the box but I can't exactly charge and
listen with my headset at the same time.

On 9/8/16, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hi Pat, I've very well agree with you. This is why when right tried to
share
a link that I make sure that I include the text as well.
Joseph Hudson
group owner for iPad help for the blind
IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io>
Email
jhud7789@...<mailto:jhud7789@...>
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
<https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

FaceTime/iMessage
jhud7789@...<mailto:jhud7789@...>

On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Pat Seed <patatips@...> wrote:

Hi, I know that I am not a moderator. However, that comment was Uncalled
for.
Actually, it is helpful to have the information with the link. There
have
been new people coming to this group lately. We have no idea how much
they
know, or if anyone out there is a beginner, whether they have access to
internet training, ETC. So, thank you for placing the information with
the
link. It is Very Much Appreciated.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

Here you go lazy ass!  LOL  LOL

From: Christopher Hallsworth <mailto:challsworth2@...>

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>

Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in
iPhone
7

By Cody Lee, Sep 7, 2016

iPhone 7 lighrtning connectorwh

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed that the rumors are true: there is no
headphone jack in the iPhone 7. Apple is including a new pair of EarPods
in the box with the handset, as well as an adapter for connecting the
headphones to the legacy 3.5mm port, and it also announced new wireless
earbuds called AirPods.

Apple SVP Phil Schiller explains the move: “The reason to move on:
courage. The courage to move on and do something new that betters all of
us.” Schiller says removing headphone jack will free up space, which is
growing ever-limited with new components, and Apple’s ultimate vision
for
mobile audio is “wireless.”
iPhone 7 adaptor in box

“Up till now no one has taken on the challenge of fixing the things that
are difficult to do on those wireless experiences and make them so we
all
want to do them. Our team at Apple has worked so hard to create
something
new that delivers on the opportunity to create the wireless experience.”

So there you have it. For all of you folks out there wondering how Apple
would justify removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7: they say
it’s
because the port was a poor use of space and ultimately they see all
headphones becoming wireless. Coincidentally, they also announced
multiple
new pairs of Bluetooth headphones today.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on the move, sound off below!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed
the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you
should
paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link.

Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length
of
this email.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...<mailto:kimsansong@...>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the
headphone jack in iPhone 7

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/
<http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jack-iphone-7/>





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