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Re: Googling it
Gene
But that may not mean that results are shown in the
same order. this may be particularly true because Google tries to learn
about what your interests are and shows you results in order based on your
interests. I don't want Google to do this and (I don't use Google when
signed into my google account and I block most cookies mainly because that
keepps me from worrying if I am attracting any tracking cookies I don't
want. But I may be seeing results that are not tailored to me as
well. I don't want tailored results because tailored results reinforce
what you already may think rather than expose me to other information that may
challenge what I already think or know about. I don't know if Start Page
tailors results but I really object to the practice.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Koppelmann" <billmeister@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:27 PM Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it > Hi, > Have you ever tried www.startpage.com? the only th ing I like google > better for are trivia answers. > Bill K. > > >
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
Gene
Apple overprices as a matter of course so why
should this be different? That isn't to say that I might not get an
IPhone, it would depend if I considered whatever advantages it might have to be
worth the overpricing after doing some investigation. But Apple is known
for overpricing. and as far as headphones are concerned, I'm very
skeptical that roughly equivalent ones are available for considerably
less.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple
removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 No offense Joseph, but I think I have more than a
passing familiarity with technology and I know when something is over
priced.
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
Carlos
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Hi Mike,
I'm not sure I can give you a useful answer.
You will most likely receive many varying opinions on this subject. At one
point I would have said the iPhone, but Android and TalkBack have come a
long way. I think the only way to really make an informed decision is
to try them both yourself. Personally, I will always choose Android,
but more for the flexibility, not specifically for
the accessibility.
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
Gene
An audiophile might pay that much but for the
typical listener, the word ridiculous sums things up. Headphone technology
has matured and improved significantly since I was young a long time ago.
I haven't systematically priced and compared headphones, but I just bought a
pair of fifty dollar headphones that sound really good. I didn't do a
systematic comparison, but I compared them to a 130 dollar pair of
headphones and I didn't see a significant difference.
That isn't to say that a more thorough comparison
might not yield a significant difference but these headphones I find very
satisfactory since I'm not looking for audiophile quality.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple
removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 All I can say is that is a buck load of money for headphones…
Kimsan Song
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sorry, I don't care about it's capabilities. I'm not paying $159 for wireless headphones.
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Re: Googling it
Carlos
Also, I don't know what you have already tried
to solve the problem, but if you are running JAWS, you can disable
page refresh altogether. Press Insert V, arrow down to
"Page Refresh"
and press the Spacebar a couple of times to toggle
it off.
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
Gene
You should be able to use Windows Live Mail and
Thunderbird indefinitely.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple
removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 Outlook, an alternative that will stay around? Also, what does one do to get another email client? Is there some way to download it and it over ride the present one? Would the contacts be picked up by the new one? I paid to have my contacts imported, but had to edit them for Outlook. About half way through, the last half just disappeared. Thankfully enough, I had a copy of my contact addresses in a word file, so had to do about 50 or so of them from scratch. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:55 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 Honestly, if Outlook causes that many problems, I would just use something else. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 > That message freeze drives me bonkers. > With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had an issue > with, my work around is the same as yours where I copy and paste. > My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and not 2013. > Kimsan Song > kimsansong@... > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On > Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed > the headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office > 2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the first few > months that I had this computer, it was just wonderful to be able to > click right onto any link sent; not so now. I have no idea what caused the change. > > Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a message freeze, > but immediately I got a solution - copy message, get out of message, > start again, paste, and continue. > > Bye for now, > > Carolyn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io > [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed > the headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > I don't know what program is being used but her message said that > initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the same program > is being used now, it certainly may be some problem with her computer. > But we need more information to discuss the matter further and perhaps > reach a conclusion. > > Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It is not > proper to generalize from one users experience to the performance of a > program in general. Your experience indicates that a more general problem may exist. > it is not a definite indication that a general problem exists. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed > the headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > > No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think she uses > outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle. > > > > At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the address bar, > because pressing enter or spacebar on the link will not simply launch it. > > In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be done, so > I doubt it's a computer issue. > > It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did at the start. > > > > Kimsan Song > > kimsansong@... > > > > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io > [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed > the headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > > > But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer. > Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your computer. It > may not matter to you enough to experiment but you might well be able > to work around whatever the problem is by using another browser. It's > unfortunate that so many blind computer users appear so resistant to > trying other browsers than Internet Explorer. If people would just > try another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet Explorer than > Chrome, they might be surprised how little they have to learn in the > transition. > > > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...> > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM > > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > > > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed > the headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > > > When I first got my computer last year, links were more friendly, and > I clicked on any of them that came through, but now, I have to wrestle > with them a lot of the time, and still can't get to the intended subject sent. > It > could be that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more out > there than struggling for a length that is not going to be a life > saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know. > > Bye for now, > > Carolyn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io > <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed > the headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and then show > the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I just did this with > your current link, And was able to show the reader and copy the text. > One thing you have to realize, is that some people are not a fan of > clicking links. And if you were one of those people, six strapped to > the group below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still > apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles from all > the time. So have fun and enjoy. > > Joseph Hudson > group owner for iPad help for the blind > > * IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io > <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io> > <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io> > * > > jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> > <mailto:jhud7789@...> I device support Telephone > 2543007667 > Skype > joseph.hudson89 facebook > https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 > https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 > > FaceTime/iMessage > jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> > <mailto:jhud7789@...> > > > On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth > <challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...> > <mailto:challsworth2@...> > > wrote: > > Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing, only the > link is sent with the email. I realize some of you may not be happy > about this, so will try and research alternatives. I used to be on Mac > Daily News, but unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for > your suggestion. > > > On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan > <kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> > <mailto:kimsansong@...> > > wrote: > > You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you > should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link. > > Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length > of this email. > > Kimsan Song > kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> > <mailto:kimsansong@...> > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io > <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and > vision: why Apple removed the > headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > > http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac > k-iphone-7/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
Gene
It's nice to see another message urging what I
urged. Maybe two people will be more convincing than one.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple
removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 else. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 > That message freeze drives me bonkers. > With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had an issue with, > my work around is the same as yours where I copy and paste. > My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and not 2013. > Kimsan Song > kimsansong@... > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf > Of > Carolyn Arnold > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the > headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office > 2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the first few months > that I had this computer, it was just wonderful to be able to click right > onto any link sent; not so now. I have no idea what caused the change. > > Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a message freeze, but > immediately I got a solution - copy message, get out of message, start > again, paste, and continue. > > Bye for now, > > Carolyn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io > [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the > headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > I don't know what program is being used but her message said that > initially, > links were more friendly. Assuming that the same program is being used > now, > it certainly may be some problem with her computer. But we need more > information to discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion. > > Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It is not proper to > generalize from one users experience to the performance of a program in > general. Your experience indicates that a more general problem may exist. > it is not a definite indication that a general problem exists. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the > headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > > No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think she uses outlook > 2013, and clicking links is a hassle. > > > > At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the address bar, > because pressing enter or spacebar on the link will not simply launch it. > > In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be done, so I > doubt it's a computer issue. > > It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did at the start. > > > > Kimsan Song > > kimsansong@... > > > > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io > [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the > headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > > > But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer. > Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your computer. It may > not matter to you enough to experiment but you might well be able to work > around whatever the problem is by using another browser. It's unfortunate > that so many blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other > browsers than Internet Explorer. If people would just try another > browser, > Firefox is more similar to Internet Explorer than Chrome, they might be > surprised how little they have to learn in the transition. > > > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...> > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM > > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > > > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the > headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > > > When I first got my computer last year, links were more friendly, and I > clicked on any of them that came through, but now, I have to wrestle with > them a lot of the time, and still can't get to the intended subject sent. > It > could be that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more out > there > than struggling for a length that is not going to be a life saver or a > money > maker for me or anyone I know. > > Bye for now, > > Carolyn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io > <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the > headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and then show the > reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I just did this with your > current > link, And was able to show the reader and copy the text. One thing you > have > to realize, is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if > you > were one of those people, six strapped to the group below. I will be > sharing > stuff like this and I am also still apart of Matt daily news which Chris > used to share articles from all the time. So have fun and enjoy. > > Joseph Hudson > group owner for iPad help for the blind > > * IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io > <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io> > <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io> > * > > jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> <mailto:jhud7789@...> > I > device support Telephone > 2543007667 > Skype > joseph.hudson89 facebook > https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 > https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 > > FaceTime/iMessage > jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> <mailto:jhud7789@...> > > > On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth > <challsworth2@... > <mailto:challsworth2@...> <mailto:challsworth2@...> > > wrote: > > Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing, only the link > is > sent with the email. I realize some of you may not be happy about this, so > will try and research alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but > unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your suggestion. > > > On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan > <kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> > <mailto:kimsansong@...> > > wrote: > > You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you > should > paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link. > > Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length of > this email. > > Kimsan Song > kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> > <mailto:kimsansong@...> > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io > <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and > vision: why Apple removed the > headphone jack in iPhone 7 > > > http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac > k-iphone-7/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Googling it
Carlos
Hi TerriLynne,
You may be correct, but I honestly can't say
whether I've noticed a difference. I will have to pay more attention in
the future. For the record, I'm not saying that I don't appreciate when
someone is willing to make the effort to post the text of an article,
but I also don't want anyone to feel as if they are obligated to do
so. I consider it a convenience, not a necessity. There could be
several reasons why someone might not include the text in the message.
They might not have the time, they might be feeling lazy on a particular day,
and so on.
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
Gene
Sometimes, good allies are those who urge change or
at least trying something new.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple
removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 freeze until the last week or so. I'm always telling people, "just think, this time next week, you'll have a brand new problem." Usually I'm right. Trouble is, guess what, it happens to me too - cheers. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:45 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 That message freeze drives me bonkers. With my singular experience that I'm reporting that you had an issue with, my work around is the same as yours where I copy and paste. My set up is the same as yours, except I'm using 2016 and not 2013. Kimsan Song kimsansong@... -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:15 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 My singular personal experience is with Windows 10, Office 2013 (Outlook 2013), Internet Explorer and JAWS. For the first few months that I had this computer, it was just wonderful to be able to click right onto any link sent; not so now. I have no idea what caused the change. Also, recently, I have started having a problem with a message freeze, but immediately I got a solution - copy message, get out of message, start again, paste, and continue. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:45 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 I don't know what program is being used but her message said that initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the same program is being used now, it certainly may be some problem with her computer. But we need more information to discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion. Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It is not proper to generalize from one users experience to the performance of a program in general. Your experience indicates that a more general problem may exist. it is not a definite indication that a general problem exists. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think she uses outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle. At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the address bar, because pressing enter or spacebar on the link will not simply launch it. In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be done, so I doubt it's a computer issue. It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did at the start. Kimsan Song kimsansong@... From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer. Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your computer. It may not matter to you enough to experiment but you might well be able to work around whatever the problem is by using another browser. It's unfortunate that so many blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other browsers than Internet Explorer. If people would just try another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet Explorer than Chrome, they might be surprised how little they have to learn in the transition. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 When I first got my computer last year, links were more friendly, and I clicked on any of them that came through, but now, I have to wrestle with them a lot of the time, and still can't get to the intended subject sent. It could be that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more out there than struggling for a length that is not going to be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and then show the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I just did this with your current link, And was able to show the reader and copy the text. One thing you have to realize, is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if you were one of those people, six strapped to the group below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles from all the time. So have fun and enjoy. Joseph Hudson group owner for iPad help for the blind * IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io> <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io> * jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> <mailto:jhud7789@...> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> <mailto:jhud7789@...> On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...> <mailto:challsworth2@...> > wrote: Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing, only the link is sent with the email. I realize some of you may not be happy about this, so will try and research alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your suggestion. On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan <kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> <mailto:kimsansong@...> > wrote: You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link. Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length of this email. Kimsan Song kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> <mailto:kimsansong@...> -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac k-iphone-7/
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
Gene
Maybe it's time to try Windows Live Mail or
thunderbird. Why continue using a program that has these
problems?
If desired, you can leave your current e-mail
program as the default until you decide if you want to use either of these other
programs.
gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple
removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 is encouraging to know that it could be, probably is, an Outlook problem. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:52 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 Gene: I've been on several lists, and seen several emails from different users discussing this links issue with outlook 2013 so no I'm not just talking about my own experience. You don't know what program is being used, and with emails I've seen from her in the past, I know she uses 2013. If everything is working for her now, great. I'll stop talking on her behalf now because it's to early for me lol. Kimsan Song kimsansong@... From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:45 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 I don't know what program is being used but her message said that initially, links were more friendly. Assuming that the same program is being used now, it certainly may be some problem with her computer. But we need more information to discuss the matter further and perhaps reach a conclusion. Also, you are discussing your experience as one user. It is not proper to generalize from one users experience to the performance of a program in general. Your experience indicates that a more general problem may exist. it is not a definite indication that a general problem exists. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@...> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:35 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 No, it's not just her computer. If memory serves, I think she uses outlook 2013, and clicking links is a hassle. At times, you have to select the link, paste it into the address bar, because pressing enter or spacebar on the link will not simply launch it. In other email programs I've used, none of that needed to be done, so I doubt it's a computer issue. It's happened to me as well which is why I stated what I did at the start. Kimsan Song kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:29 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 But that is some sort of problem specific to your computer. Links were not more friendly. Something changed in your computer. It may not matter to you enough to experiment but you might well be able to work around whatever the problem is by using another browser. It's unfortunate that so many blind computer users appear so resistant to trying other browsers than Internet Explorer. If people would just try another browser, Firefox is more similar to Internet Explorer than Chrome, they might be surprised how little they have to learn in the transition. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:03 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 When I first got my computer last year, links were more friendly, and I clicked on any of them that came through, but now, I have to wrestle with them a lot of the time, and still can't get to the intended subject sent. It could be that if I put forth more effort - but then, there is more out there than struggling for a length that is not going to be a life saver or a money maker for me or anyone I know. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:05 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 Chris, it is not that hard to email yourself the link and then show the reader on the Mac and hit command shift I. I just did this with your current link, And was able to show the reader and copy the text. One thing you have to realize, is that some people are not a fan of clicking links. And if you were one of those people, six strapped to the group below. I will be sharing stuff like this and I am also still apart of Matt daily news which Chris used to share articles from all the time. So have fun and enjoy. Joseph Hudson group owner for iPad help for the blind * IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io> <mailto:IPadhelpfortheblind+subscribe@groups.io> * jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> <mailto:jhud7789@...> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7789@... <mailto:jhud7789@...> <mailto:jhud7789@...> On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@... <mailto:challsworth2@...> <mailto:challsworth2@...> > wrote: Sorry, I got these from the IDB app for iOS. When sharing, only the link is sent with the email. I realize some of you may not be happy about this, so will try and research alternatives. I used to be on Mac Daily News, but unsubscribed after getting the IDB app. Thanks for your suggestion. On 7 Sep 2016, at 20:55, Kimsan <kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> <mailto:kimsansong@...> > wrote: You should paste the article or every time you send a link Chris, you should paste the article below. I'm to lazy to click the link. Haha, I suppose I could've clicked the link by now based on the length of this email. Kimsan Song kimsansong@... <mailto:kimsansong@...> <mailto:kimsansong@...> -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 12:06 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> Subject: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/07/why-no-headphone-jac k-iphone-7/
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Re: Googling it
Gene
I'm not sure why you are having the problems you
are describing. At times, a page will refresh but I suspect you can stop
this in firefox most easily. However, if you are using Firefox. one way to
stop page refreshes is to use a script blocker. I believe that will stop
all page refreshes. that's probably the easiest way to stop all refreshes,
regardless of screen-reader being used. It also is safer browsing with
scripts disabled. My recollection, from the very little I looked at the no
script add on is that it is fast and easy to allow scripts to run or to set it
to block all scripts. Many sites require scripts to do what you want but
just for reading information, a lot of sites can be used with scripts
blocked. And they may load much more quickly. The New York Times
loads much more quickly when I have scripts blocked, regardless of browser and
screen-reader being used. You can tailor settings in a lot of ways using
the no script add on with Firefox, but I'm discussing the ways that require the
least learning even if unblocking everything doesn't give you as much protection
as tailoring settings. I never have any pages refresh when I don't allow
scripts to run.
Gene.
----- Original Message -----
From: TerriLynne Pomeroy
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it I hope I don’t get flack for changing the subject, but I want to specifically comment on googling it rather than on the cblue tooth buds.
I love to google things. But lately, I am more reluctant to do so because of things such as pages refreshing while I am in the middle of reading something, or finding only the first paragraph, then having to click to a next page and find my place again.
I am truly grateful for the opportunities technology offers me as a blind person, but sometimes the updates and new features drive me a little crazy.
I admit that it is unfortunate, but I do prefer to have the article in the email for assured ease of access.
TerriLynne
From:
main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
I try to discourage blatantly harsh or rude quote unquote "Google it" comments. There is nothing wrong with occasionally gently encouraging members to try finding their own answers, but it shouldn't be anyone's default response and not all information can be easily found with a Google search.
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Re: Googling it
Carolyn Arnold
Makes sense to me.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of TerriLynne Pomeroy Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:48 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Googling it I also have made the following observation and would be interested to see if anyone has had a different experience. When a link is sent to the list, the discussion is much more limited than when an actual article is sent. I have always, perhaps incorrectly, assumed that this meant that many readers, like myself, didn't go to the link, and so the conversation is limited or even nonexistent. TerriLynne
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Re: Googling it
Carolyn Arnold
I hate all that jumping around. I usually get hymns, stock prices or brief answers on Google, like where is the area code 808 located or something like that, what is the population of Smithville, Texas? However, even my sighted husband forbears some of the longer stuff, because he likes to do a lot of research, and he says sometimes that he has to wait for the rest to come up or something, but of course, he can jump and click, as soon as the rest of what he wants is in sight, where we have to play a game of chase - not my idea of a really good time, thanks all the same.
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Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of TerriLynne Pomeroy Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:46 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it Hi all, Perhaps I shouldn't have named this subject "googling it." My problem is not with google. I love google. My problem is with various pages which come up when I google for something. They are often so big that JAWS says something like "there are 18 frames and 360 links." My problems are as follows: 1. These huge pages take forever to load. 2. Often the page refreshes which adds both the refresh time and then I am kicked back up to the top of the page and have to find where I was before. 3. Often the pages I go to, have only one or two paragraphs, and then I have to click to go to another page and begin the whole tedious process again. 4. I have tried copying the page and pasting it into an editing program to avoid all of the refreshing, but this is also annoying because there are so many blank lines that it is quite the process to find all of the article. 5. Many articles are interrupted again and again with google ads, icons for liking the page on Facebook Twitter, etc. For these reasons, and perhaps others which I am not currently remembering, I love it when someone pastes an article into an email. TerriLynne -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:26 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it Hi all: I find google very easy to use on my PC, my iPhone and my iPad too. If you want an alternative search engine that doesn't track your searches, try duckduckgo. www.duckduckgo.com Like google, it's very user-friendly and accessible. I don't remember the URL, but I think google offers a version of its search engine that has no ads. Google offers it to blind users. Victor On 9/8/16, Jim Wohlgamuth <wohlggie@...> wrote: Hay FOLKS!
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Re: downloading using internet explorer/how to stop the list of previously downloaded files from showing
Veronica Kirk
This only happens when I am downloading from send space. When trying to download before it will think about downloading one has to use Control-J and then you get a warning from smart screen filter and then you see a list of downloads.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:57 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] downloading using internet explorer/how to stop the list of previously downloaded files from showing
I'm skeptical. If the download is not safe, your antimalware program should tell you. or the smart screen filter may warn you. But showing the list of downloads is a behavior I have never heard discussed as expected when Internet explorer sees an unsafe download and it would be illogical for this to be the response.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] downloading using internet explorer/how to stop the list of previously downloaded files from showing
Interesting. I use a download manager so I may not have noticed this
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
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Hi Carlos,
In your experience / opinion,In general would
you say the Android or the Apple phones are more accessible?
Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Courage, space, and vision: why Apple
removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7 I don't consider myself an expert with any
particular area of computer technology. I consider myself a bit of a
generalist. I am certainly overall more familiar with Windows and Windows
based PCs, but as you can see in the list archives if you care to
look, I do keep myself informed about other computer related and
electronic technology in general. At one point or another, I have
experimented with iPhones, Macs, Android, and several Linux distributions.
Although since my experience with some of the above is limited, I tend to let
others who know more field related questions.
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Re: best podcatcher
Edmond <gocloud84@...>
OKOK! Got that! Don't spam my inbox!
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On 9/8/2016 2:25 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
Podcast *cathcer* means podcast *receiver*.
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Re: e-mail programs
Carlos
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In general you won't notice a difference, but it
will when clicking on "mail to" links, trying to attach files via the
"Mail recipient"
item in the
"Send to"
menu, and so on.
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Googling it
Terrilynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
I also have made the following observation and would be interested to see if anyone has had a different experience.
When a link is sent to the list, the discussion is much more limited than when an actual article is sent. I have always, perhaps incorrectly, assumed that this meant that many readers, like myself, didn’t go to the link, and so the conversation is limited or even nonexistent.
TerriLynne
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Re: Googling it
Terrilynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
Hi all,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Perhaps I shouldn't have named this subject "googling it." My problem is not with google. I love google. My problem is with various pages which come up when I google for something. They are often so big that JAWS says something like "there are 18 frames and 360 links." My problems are as follows: 1. These huge pages take forever to load. 2. Often the page refreshes which adds both the refresh time and then I am kicked back up to the top of the page and have to find where I was before. 3. Often the pages I go to, have only one or two paragraphs, and then I have to click to go to another page and begin the whole tedious process again. 4. I have tried copying the page and pasting it into an editing program to avoid all of the refreshing, but this is also annoying because there are so many blank lines that it is quite the process to find all of the article. 5. Many articles are interrupted again and again with google ads, icons for liking the page on Facebook Twitter, etc. For these reasons, and perhaps others which I am not currently remembering, I love it when someone pastes an article into an email. TerriLynne
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Victor Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:26 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Googling it Hi all: I find google very easy to use on my PC, my iPhone and my iPad too. If you want an alternative search engine that doesn't track your searches, try duckduckgo. www.duckduckgo.com Like google, it's very user-friendly and accessible. I don't remember the URL, but I think google offers a version of its search engine that has no ads. Google offers it to blind users. Victor On 9/8/16, Jim Wohlgamuth <wohlggie@...> wrote: Hay FOLKS!
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Re: Courage, space, and vision: why Apple removed the headphone jack in iPhone 7
#article
jeremy <icu8it2@...>
I think the main thing to keep in mind is that not everyone wants the same thing from their headsets. I personally didn't mind all that much paying the price I did for my bose headset I have for my IPhone, but would I suggest everyone to go out and get one, no! I honestly can't give an ipinion on the upcoming apple wireless
headset, but from what I've read of it so far, I'd not be in any
hurry to hop out and spend that kind of money for it. Most
especially with it only having a charge time of 5 or so hours,
nah, that kind of sucks, me thinks.
On 09/08/2016 03:35 PM, Joseph Hudson
wrote:
Hi Flora, I hope you're message makes Carlos feel little bit better seems have you put that price out about the beats headphones now I can see not paying dollars 300. But dollar 150? I'll pay that any day for a pair of headphones especially it's going to last me are very long time.
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