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Re: can anyone recomend a good malqware program please

Steve Matzura
 

They did away with the free version of that, didn't they?

On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:43:18 -0400, you wrote:

You probably want a dedicated malware scanner such as Malwarebytes.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free/
The Windows Defender which is included with Windows 7 is quite basic and is
not a dedicated malware scanner. Microsoft Security Essentials
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e1605e70-9649-4a87-8532-33d813687a7f&displayLang=en
which is the equivalent of Windows Defender on Windows 10 is more
comprehensive, but is also not a dedicated malware scanner.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Hodgson" <lee@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can anyone recomend a good malqware program please


thanks yes sorry I meant anti malware. I seem to have windows defender on
the pc already, do I need to modify any settings or do anything with it.
sorry I am new to windows 7, so this is a learning curve.
As I used to use spybot before on my xp machine, but not sure how
accessible that is these days. smiles.
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Slipstream Status

Steve Matzura
 

It took a few times to get it right, but get it right I seem to have
done. However, there were more than a few bumpy-lumpies along the way.

1. Do not apply KB3059317 using Edmond's article's method. The
distributed Installation and System Management tool, DISM, will hang
if you do.

2. Applying the Internet Explorer 11 set of updates did not yield a
running system with IE11. I don't know why.

3. The Windows Update utility was still the old one and had to be
downloaded from Microsoft. Luckily, it was the first update that came
through, and of course, required a system reboot. I'm assuming, as I
yet have no evidence to support or deny it, that updates will continue
and the local update cache will be revised to reflect updates that
were applied during the rollup I did in order to prepare the system
for installation.

4. I used the downloadable Windows 7 64-bit ISO downloaded from
Microsoft to slipstream the updates. This is really a black-box thing
to me, as I found some crazy stuff going on:

4.1. When I installed from the slipstreamed files, the Windows
installer did not ask me what kind of installation I wanted--Home
Basic, Home Premium, Pro, or Ultimate, like Bryan's does.

4.2. When I slipstreamed the updates, I had to specify which of the
four Windows editions to patch on the DISM command line. I really
wonder what difference it makes which one you choose, except maybe
some updates don't apply to lower editions, like Basic or Premium, so
they are ignored. This is just a guess.

4.3. And here's the real kicker: The CD key belonging to the person
whom I've been trying to help restore his machine to functionality did
not work! His Windows is currently in 30-day mode. Looks like a call
to the Microsoft Disability Help Line will be on tomorrow's breakfast
menu.

5. Windows Update Installed Updates only shows three updates as having
been installed. I think I know the reason for this. Windows keeps a
journal or cache of information about what updates have been
installed, and if that cache is empty, it's going to think no updates
have been installed. That's fine, but I fervently hope the next time
that machine checks for updates, it will figure out that a whole bunch
of updates--probably about two hundred of them--can't be applied
because they already were, but that machine just doesn't know they
were. Typical Microsoft--the left hand doesn't know what the right
hand is doing on a machine! :-)

Comments and more information most welcome.


Re: What's the difference between Imp and pop3?

James Bentley
 

Thanks for the advice. I have them on tape saying that I am not under any contract and that I can cancel at any time at no cost what so ever. I got them to repeat that several times. But, thanks,

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imp and pop3?

AT&T usually do not cancel your EMail. I think you can still continue
using your AT&T Email even if you cancel your service. Well... Be
careful with their Early Termination Fees... One of their guys told me
"we never charge such fees" but after canceling my service, I surprised
about a $350 on the bill! I tried to dispute but was never success.

On 8/25/2016 7:18 PM, James Bentley wrote:
I definitely appreciate all who shared their experience with me. I need
to get over to Gmail with SuddenLink so I can cancel my AT&T service. I
don’t want two phone and internet bills. I’ll have a SuddenLink account
in the near future instead of AT&T.

Here, in my part of East Texas, AT&T just doesn’t currently have decent
service Hundreds just went without internet and VOIP phone services
again for 1.5 days. This happens 3 to 5 times per year.

Now, that I under stand the advantages of IMAP and that I can just set
up folders and filters on the server, I am satisfied that I will have
all of my needs met using Gmail with the IMAP protocol. At least, I
think that protocol is the right word?

Thanks again to all who responded to my request,

James



*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:49 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

Windows Live Mail doesn't support message rules created in that client
when using IMAP. I don't know about other programs other than that
Thunderbird and Outlook support such rules. My understanding is that
rules are generally set up on the server and that this allows proper
synchronization on clients because no rules are set up in the clients
nor is support for such necessary.

Gene
----- original Message -----
*From:* Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <mailto:gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:28 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

Yes they should work. I believe message rules have nothing to do with
POP and IMAP.
I have a better idea; if you are using GMail, create folders and labels
in your GMail account and setup rules there. This was you can keep
everything as you want.

On 8/25/2016 6:24 PM, James Bentley wrote:
OK, it appears as though message rules will not sink on all clients.
That's no big deal for me but, I would still want to be able to create
message rules on individual clients. Do you happen to know if
individual message rules will still work on the client if they are
created?

James

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

Yes if you do not delete the messages you need to keep. in GMail we
archive them.

On 8/25/2016 6:04 PM, James Bentley wrote:
OK, I have decided that I like the idea that all clients will be
synchronized when using imap. But, I have a few very important
questions. I wonder if using imap will allow me to download all
messages to any client and keep them there forever if I choose. In
other words, I do not want emails only available to me when I am on
line. I want to download emails and keep them forever if I want. Will
imap allow me to have the emails on all of my computers without deleting
them after a certain period of time? And, I do understand that if I
make changes to one client, the same changes happen to all. But, I was
just under the impression that users of imap do not get to keep emails
on their machines forever.

Thanks for any advice,

James Bentley

*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:28 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

You have to tell GMail to enable pop3. You can either wait for more
answers from people who have more detailed information or you can do a
Google search for something like pop3 GMail. You will find lots of
results.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:00 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

Hi everyone,

I am moving from Yahoo/ATT mail to Gmail. I planned on setting up a
pop3 account because that is what I am accustomed to using. However, I
don’t seem to have that option. So, what will be different if I set up
an Imap account?

Many thanks,

James Bentley

**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.







Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

James Bentley
 

The Belarc Advisor found the service tags on both of my Dell laptops.

Good luck,

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions

Belarc Advisor
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
might help with retrieving your service tag.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a copy of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?






Re: What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

James Bentley
 

I saw pop in Gmail settings.  I applied it.  But, When I set up the account, the only option that I saw was IMAP.
 
However, now, I have decided to go with IMAP.  Now, if I can just get Gmail to accept my stupid password to download emails.  I can use my password to go to the web site and see all messages.  But, when I try to download these messages in WLM, , no go.  Oh what fun...
 
<smile>
 
James
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?
 
I have a Gmail account on this computer, and I have it as pop.  So, I don’t know why you can’t find that setting.  I don’t remember how to tell you to find it.  Pam.
 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:00 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?
 
Hi everyone,
 
I am moving from Yahoo/ATT mail to Gmail.  I planned on setting up a pop3 account because that is what I am accustomed to using.   However, I don’t seem to have that option.  So, what will be different if I set up an Imap account?
 
Many thanks,
 
James Bentley
 
**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.

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Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

Melissa, just have someone sighted look for the product key on the COA key sticker. On desktops it is usually on the side or the top of the case. With laptops it is usually on the bottom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install, because I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up being a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to fix the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases, modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read reports of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?












Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

As I understand it, you can download the cert by hand and enter everything else manually, they's a fair number of command line tinkering that needs to be done to get stuff registered, but that's where the tool makes it quicker as it handles all the cli stuff for you, along with pulling down the certs from a list.

Pretty neat.

On 8/25/2016 10:02 PM, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
Yes... they are such tools... your red lines, Carlos?

On 8/25/2016 8:00 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I was a little thrown off by the password thing, thought she meant the
Windows7 installation's password, so was going to suggest that I thought
the PE had a tool to reset that. Glad I didn't write and make myself
look silly. :)


As far as the OEM stuff goes though, at least with 7, aren't there tools
that keep a list of keys and certificates for the different OEM
providers, dell, Lenovo, etc? I can't recall the name of the one I used
to do my clean install, but that's how I got my version to finally
register. There's a tool that once you get the version of Windows that's
licensed for your machine installed, home, pro, whatever, you run the
tool and it pulls down the certs for that model and registers everything
for you. Once I had mine registered, that's when I made my image.

Reason I had to resort to using this, I wasn't able to use the key that
I got using keyfinder and ms had told me that that key was already n
use. It was then that I found out about the OEM machines having keys
that were used on registration for large numbers of the same machine.
Not sure if it will help, but if I can dig up the tool, I'll post a link
for it.
Take care.

On 8/25/2016 9:39 PM, Carlos wrote:
1. For future reference, I wouldn't recommend password protecting
images. Some people have the inclination to password protect
everything they can for security reasons, but in many cases it really
isn't necessary and can cause problems such as these. Short of
speaking to the developer who might or might not help, there is no way
around a lost or forgotten password.

2. The error most likely means that what you have is an OEM product
key. Microsoft might or might not be willing to help with this, but
most likely you will have to resort to paying Dell for a recovery disc
assuming they still make them for your particular model. The only
other way you could legally get a clean installation of Windows 7
would be to purchase an OEM copy on Amazon which are a bit over $100.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
<@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:28 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?







Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

Yes I vaguely remember going through that procedure a couple of times myself, but honestly it is just easier to use the key on the COA key sticker. Assuming the sticker is still legible.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


I was a little thrown off by the password thing, thought she meant the Windows7 installation's password, so was going to suggest that I thought the PE had a tool to reset that. Glad I didn't write and make myself look silly. :)


As far as the OEM stuff goes though, at least with 7, aren't there tools that keep a list of keys and certificates for the different OEM providers, dell, Lenovo, etc? I can't recall the name of the one I used to do my clean install, but that's how I got my version to finally register. There's a tool that once you get the version of Windows that's licensed for your machine installed, home, pro, whatever, you run the tool and it pulls down the certs for that model and registers everything for you. Once I had mine registered, that's when I made my image.

Reason I had to resort to using this, I wasn't able to use the key that I got using keyfinder and ms had told me that that key was already n use. It was then that I found out about the OEM machines having keys that were used on registration for large numbers of the same machine.
Not sure if it will help, but if I can dig up the tool, I'll post a link for it.
Take care.

On 8/25/2016 9:39 PM, Carlos wrote:
1. For future reference, I wouldn't recommend password protecting images. Some people have the inclination to password protect everything they can for security reasons, but in many cases it really isn't necessary and can cause problems such as these. Short of speaking to the developer who might or might not help, there is no way around a lost or forgotten password.

2. The error most likely means that what you have is an OEM product key. Microsoft might or might not be willing to help with this, but most likely you will have to resort to paying Dell for a recovery disc assuming they still make them for your particular model. The only other way you could legally get a clean installation of Windows 7 would be to purchase an OEM copy on Amazon which are a bit over $100.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:28 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?





Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

 

That sounds complicated. I bought my computer from a seller off of
amazon and I'm guessing he was able to do a fresh install, because I
don't recall any dell stuff when I first got my computer.
It just had windows 7 professional, 64 bit and I don't remember any
extra programs sides the basics. Maybe he just uninstalled them who
freaking knows.

This is so very frustrating because I had finally made the decision
(very long story there) to try and see if I could do some freelance
transcribing or editing and now ... oh gee my computer ends up being a
total ass hat.


Walking away from computer before I throw something.
TTFN
Melissa

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to fix the
issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases, modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read reports of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a copy
of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?












Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

It should always activate with the key on the COA key sticker which is not the same as the OEM key used to activate Windows initially by the manufacturer.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Honestly it won't activate with the OEM certificate installed, even if you enter the correct key, you know.
Let's see what will happen... I am a bit worry. I want to help people but sometime later I feel I put them in more head ace.

On 8/25/2016 7:57 PM, Carlos wrote:
In either case, it is worth looking for the product key on the COA key
sticker since it is almost guaranteed to work
----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases, modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read reports
of this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a
copy of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way
to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at
all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?









Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

Yes... they are such tools... your red lines, Carlos?

On 8/25/2016 8:00 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I was a little thrown off by the password thing, thought she meant the
Windows7 installation's password, so was going to suggest that I thought
the PE had a tool to reset that. Glad I didn't write and make myself
look silly. :)


As far as the OEM stuff goes though, at least with 7, aren't there tools
that keep a list of keys and certificates for the different OEM
providers, dell, Lenovo, etc? I can't recall the name of the one I used
to do my clean install, but that's how I got my version to finally
register. There's a tool that once you get the version of Windows that's
licensed for your machine installed, home, pro, whatever, you run the
tool and it pulls down the certs for that model and registers everything
for you. Once I had mine registered, that's when I made my image.

Reason I had to resort to using this, I wasn't able to use the key that
I got using keyfinder and ms had told me that that key was already n
use. It was then that I found out about the OEM machines having keys
that were used on registration for large numbers of the same machine.
Not sure if it will help, but if I can dig up the tool, I'll post a link
for it.
Take care.

On 8/25/2016 9:39 PM, Carlos wrote:
1. For future reference, I wouldn't recommend password protecting
images. Some people have the inclination to password protect
everything they can for security reasons, but in many cases it really
isn't necessary and can cause problems such as these. Short of
speaking to the developer who might or might not help, there is no way
around a lost or forgotten password.

2. The error most likely means that what you have is an OEM product
key. Microsoft might or might not be willing to help with this, but
most likely you will have to resort to paying Dell for a recovery disc
assuming they still make them for your particular model. The only
other way you could legally get a clean installation of Windows 7
would be to purchase an OEM copy on Amazon which are a bit over $100.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa"
<@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:28 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?






Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

I was a little thrown off by the password thing, thought she meant the Windows7 installation's password, so was going to suggest that I thought the PE had a tool to reset that. Glad I didn't write and make myself look silly. :)


As far as the OEM stuff goes though, at least with 7, aren't there tools that keep a list of keys and certificates for the different OEM providers, dell, Lenovo, etc? I can't recall the name of the one I used to do my clean install, but that's how I got my version to finally register. There's a tool that once you get the version of Windows that's licensed for your machine installed, home, pro, whatever, you run the tool and it pulls down the certs for that model and registers everything for you. Once I had mine registered, that's when I made my image.

Reason I had to resort to using this, I wasn't able to use the key that I got using keyfinder and ms had told me that that key was already n use. It was then that I found out about the OEM machines having keys that were used on registration for large numbers of the same machine.
Not sure if it will help, but if I can dig up the tool, I'll post a link for it.
Take care.

On 8/25/2016 9:39 PM, Carlos wrote:
1. For future reference, I wouldn't recommend password protecting images. Some people have the inclination to password protect everything they can for security reasons, but in many cases it really isn't necessary and can cause problems such as these. Short of speaking to the developer who might or might not help, there is no way around a lost or forgotten password.

2. The error most likely means that what you have is an OEM product key. Microsoft might or might not be willing to help with this, but most likely you will have to resort to paying Dell for a recovery disc assuming they still make them for your particular model. The only other way you could legally get a clean installation of Windows 7 would be to purchase an OEM copy on Amazon which are a bit over $100.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:28 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?




Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

Honestly it won't activate with the OEM certificate installed, even if you enter the correct key, you know.
Let's see what will happen... I am a bit worry. I want to help people but sometime later I feel I put them in more head ace.

On 8/25/2016 7:57 PM, Carlos wrote:
In either case, it is worth looking for the product key on the COA key
sticker since it is almost guaranteed to work
----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases, modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read reports
of this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a
copy of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get
charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a
few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super
hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way
to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at
all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software
pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?









Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

In either case, it is worth looking for the product key on the COA key sticker since it is almost guaranteed to work

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases, modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a copy of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?







Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

Yes unfortunately that's right but not always. It's possible to fix the issues but it's not easy.
We are gambling...<Smile>

On 8/25/2016 7:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you cannot
use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases, modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read reports of
this not always working.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows using
the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up
questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a copy of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably
just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password
that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to
get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to
windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all.
I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a
download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and
excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device
manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7
for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my
model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is
way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?









Re: What's the difference between Imp and pop3?

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

AT&T usually do not cancel your EMail. I think you can still continue using your AT&T Email even if you cancel your service. Well... Be careful with their Early Termination Fees... One of their guys told me "we never charge such fees" but after canceling my service, I surprised about a $350 on the bill! I tried to dispute but was never success.

On 8/25/2016 7:18 PM, James Bentley wrote:
I definitely appreciate all who shared their experience with me. I need
to get over to Gmail with SuddenLink so I can cancel my AT&T service. I
don’t want two phone and internet bills. I’ll have a SuddenLink account
in the near future instead of AT&T.

Here, in my part of East Texas, AT&T just doesn’t currently have decent
service Hundreds just went without internet and VOIP phone services
again for 1.5 days. This happens 3 to 5 times per year.

Now, that I under stand the advantages of IMAP and that I can just set
up folders and filters on the server, I am satisfied that I will have
all of my needs met using Gmail with the IMAP protocol. At least, I
think that protocol is the right word?

Thanks again to all who responded to my request,

James



*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:49 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

Windows Live Mail doesn't support message rules created in that client
when using IMAP. I don't know about other programs other than that
Thunderbird and Outlook support such rules. My understanding is that
rules are generally set up on the server and that this allows proper
synchronization on clients because no rules are set up in the clients
nor is support for such necessary.

Gene
----- original Message -----
*From:* Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <mailto:gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:28 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

Yes they should work. I believe message rules have nothing to do with
POP and IMAP.
I have a better idea; if you are using GMail, create folders and labels
in your GMail account and setup rules there. This was you can keep
everything as you want.

On 8/25/2016 6:24 PM, James Bentley wrote:
OK, it appears as though message rules will not sink on all clients.
That's no big deal for me but, I would still want to be able to create
message rules on individual clients. Do you happen to know if
individual message rules will still work on the client if they are
created?

James

-----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

Yes if you do not delete the messages you need to keep. in GMail we
archive them.

On 8/25/2016 6:04 PM, James Bentley wrote:
OK, I have decided that I like the idea that all clients will be
synchronized when using imap. But, I have a few very important
questions. I wonder if using imap will allow me to download all
messages to any client and keep them there forever if I choose. In
other words, I do not want emails only available to me when I am on
line. I want to download emails and keep them forever if I want. Will
imap allow me to have the emails on all of my computers without deleting
them after a certain period of time? And, I do understand that if I
make changes to one client, the same changes happen to all. But, I was
just under the impression that users of imap do not get to keep emails
on their machines forever.

Thanks for any advice,

James Bentley

*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:28 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

You have to tell GMail to enable pop3. You can either wait for more
answers from people who have more detailed information or you can do a
Google search for something like pop3 GMail. You will find lots of
results.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:00 PM
*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
*Subject:* [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?

Hi everyone,

I am moving from Yahoo/ATT mail to Gmail. I planned on setting up a
pop3 account because that is what I am accustomed to using. However, I
don’t seem to have that option. So, what will be different if I set up
an Imap account?

Many thanks,

James Bentley

**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.







Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

Usually this means it is an OEM product key which generally you cannot use to activate a retail copy of Windows 7. In some cases, modifying
ei.cfg
will allow the image to work with an OEM key, but I have read reports of this not always working.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a copy of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?







Re: What's the difference between Imp and pop3?

James Bentley
 

I definitely appreciate all who shared their experience with me.  I need to get over to Gmail with SuddenLink so I can cancel my AT&T service.  I don’t want two phone and internet bills.  I’ll have a SuddenLink account in the near future instead of AT&T.
 
Here, in my part of East Texas, AT&T just doesn’t currently have decent service  Hundreds just went without internet and VOIP phone services again for 1.5 days.  This happens 3 to 5 times per year.
 
Now, that I under stand the advantages of IMAP and that I can just set up folders and filters on the server, I am satisfied that I will have all of my needs met using Gmail with the IMAP  protocol.  At least, I think that protocol is the right word?
 
Thanks again to all who responded to my request,
 
James
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?
 
Windows Live Mail doesn't support message rules created in that client when using IMAP.  I don't know about other programs other than that Thunderbird and Outlook support such rules.  My understanding is that rules are generally set up on the server and that this allows proper synchronization on clients because no rules are set up in the clients nor is support for such necessary. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?
 
Yes they should work. I believe message rules have nothing to do with
POP and IMAP.
I have a better idea; if you are using GMail, create folders and labels
in your GMail account and setup rules there. This was you can keep
everything as you want.

On 8/25/2016 6:24 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> OK, it appears as though message rules will not sink on all clients.
> That's no big deal for me but, I would still want to be able to create
> message rules on individual clients.  Do you happen to know if
> individual message rules will still work on the client if they are created?
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:08 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?
>
> Yes if you do not delete the messages you need to keep. in GMail we
> archive them.
>
> On 8/25/2016 6:04 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> OK, I have decided that I like the idea that all clients will be
>> synchronized  when using imap.  But, I have a few very important
>> questions.  I wonder if using imap will allow me to download all
>> messages to any client and keep them there forever if I choose.  In
>> other words, I do not want emails only available to me when I am on
>> line.  I want to download emails and keep them forever if I want.  Will
>> imap allow me to have the emails on all of my computers without deleting
>> them after a certain period of time?  And, I do understand that if I
>> make changes to one client, the same changes happen to all.  But, I was
>> just under the impression that users of imap do not get to keep emails
>> on their machines forever.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>>
>> James Bentley
>>
>> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:28 PM
>> *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?
>>
>> You have to tell GMail to enable pop3.  You can either wait for more
>> answers from people who have more detailed information or you can do a
>> Google search for something like pop3 GMail.  You will find lots of
>> results.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:00 PM
>> *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* [TechTalk] What's the difference between Imap and pop3?
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am moving from Yahoo/ATT mail to Gmail.  I planned on setting up a
>> pop3 account because that is what I am accustomed to using.   However, I
>> don’t seem to have that option.  So, what will be different if I set up
>> an Imap account?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> James Bentley
>>
>> **No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

Seams she have the product key. She just can't download Windows using the key which is normal. That site do not work with any key I tried.

On 8/25/2016 7:47 PM, Carlos wrote:
It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key.
However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled
from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io"
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send
you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a copy of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io
<gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?







Re: restoring my computer from image back up questions

Carlos
 

It won't do you any good unless you have a working product key. However, just about any machine which came with Windows 7 preinstalled from a manufacturer should have the product key on a COA key sticker.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io" <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] restoring my computer from image back up questions


Do not worry at all.
Windows 7 professional? Sorry 32 or 64 bit? Hope you know. I will send you a download link.

On 8/25/2016 7:42 PM, Melissa wrote:
I used Active@ disk image to create my image files.

I want to download windows 7 professional, 64 bit.But, the windows
site is telling me to talk to the manufacturer and that they can't
help me with that. I will have to get the service tag number, my
computer is a dell, and go through their site to try and get a copy of
windows 7 and since my computer is out of warranty I might get charged
for it, I don't know yet.
I'm not sure what version of office I have beside it being 2007.

I have a bad headache right now so I'm going to try and sleep now.
That, or I will be slow to reply because I'm never good at getting to
sleep when I want, lol.

On 8/25/16, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
About the password: most likely no. What imaging software you used,
however?
Still trying to understand what you want to download? Windows 7 or
Office 2007? If windows 7, yes. Windows 7 download still do not work
with all keys. What edition of Windows 7 do you want?
For Office 2007 also, what Office 2007 edition you have? Probably just
the Home and Student version?
Confirm these, and we'll try to help.

On 8/25/2016 7:28 PM, Melissa wrote:
For some odd reason I can't recall or put in right the password that I
had used to make my windows 7 image. I always use a variant of a few
things when I make passwords and I know I didn't put in a super hard
password for it. I'm guessing this is a no, but is there a way to get
the password from the image?
I do have an image that I took *right* after I upgraded to windows 10.
However, the option to rollback to windows 7 is not there at all. I'm
guessing that I'm just SOL with that?
Since I want windows 7 I'm guessing that I will have to do a clean
install, which is probably a good thing to do anyway.
The only issue I might have with that is I'm unable to get a download
of Office 07, even though I have the right key. I use word and excel a
lot and don't use the other tools. I'm guessing I would have to
contact microsoft accessibility for that.
After trying to download the iso file from the microsoft website, I
entered in my serial number, and clicked on verify. It tells me:
Error
The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for
software recovery options.

So does that mean I have to harass dell for a copy of windows 7 for my
old ass computer?? I don't even think they offer support for my model
, opti plex 745.
After searching their site it looks like I need to hunt down a
sightling to get the service tag number from my tower before I can
download their media creation crap. Plus, since my computer is way out
of warranty there might be a "fee" associated with that and getting
help for it.

All I want is a clean install of windows 7 professional 64 bit,
without the crapware, that I had when I bought my computer.
Do any of you fine people have a suggestion?