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Re: The Holy Braille: A Tablet For The Visually Impaired. One of 10 innovations to win a 2016 Invention Award

Walter Ramage
 

Hi. Braille is old tech and I think is on the way out, eventually it will go the same way as semaphore when technology overtook it. I only use Braille on rare occasions and in particular for labelling. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: 22 September 2016 01:30
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Holy Braille: A Tablet For The Visually Impaired. One of 10 innovations to win a 2016 Invention Award

Hi all,

Well, it is indeed a "Holy Braille". If it becomes a reality, this
would be superb. I'd love to see more people accessing Braille.

Ann P.

Original message:

The Holy Braille: A Tablet For The Visually Impaired. One of 10
innovations to win a 2016 Invention Award
University of Michigan looking to extend braille on tablets to more
than just one line
Digital tablets provide access to a world of information—but there’s no
elegant, affordable way for the visually impaired to read from them.
That’s because current braille readers, which attach to the bottom of a
tablet, provide room for only one line of text at a time. Researchers
at the University of Michigan, led by Brent Gillespie, Alex Russomanno,
Mark Burns, and Sile O’Modhrain, hope to develop a refreshable display
to translate an entire page at once.
The project was partially motivated by O’Modhrain, who is visually
impaired. “Existing displays don’t allow you to access lots of braille
code and graphical information,” she says. “Math and music codes, for
example, are displayed spatially, so that they’re spread over multiple lines.”
Existing technology could conceivably allow for a full-page braille
screen that refreshes like a tablet. But the price would be
astronomical. For instance, single-line displays that rely on
electronics cost more than $3,000; expanding them to a full page could
potentially raise the price to as high as $55,000. To reduce that cost,
the team chose to make their device with microfluidics.
Here’s how: A refreshable display must raise and lower braille dots, a
full page might include up to 10,000, to create a pattern. In the
team’s device, a microfluidic chip controls this process by moving
small doses of fluid through tiny channels. Their prototype is only a
couple of inches wide, but the team hopes to expand it to a full-page
display that would cost $1,000 to $2,000.
As for the device’s name, collaborator Noel Runyan coined a popular
moniker: Holy Braille.
Watch this video, which automatically begins when you go to the page:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/holy-braille-tablet_us_57c44800e4b026734450f4b1
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
** New EMAIL: akp@sero.email
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: favorites again

Kimsan
 

K, thanks.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again

Yes, but they're not required. And it might actually be better to exclude the pauses if you want the script to run and close automatically when you click it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again


Is the pause and exit, apart of the code?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blaster Nil8
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again

Since I didn't have this issue when I got my update I didn't even think about what would happen when adding new favorites shortcuts.
This really needs to be a Microsoft fix, However, I took Carlos's idea for a batch file and created one that works, here it is:

Open a notepad file, I just press the Alt key and tap the letter R to open a run dialog box, then type notepad and press the enter key.

Paste in this code:
@echo Reset integrity level of favorites shortcuts pause

cd %USERPROFILE%\Favorites && ICACLS *.URL /L /T /SETINTEGRITYLEVEL MED

pause
Exit

Save the file.

Rename the file by replacing the .txt extention with a .bat extension.

You'll need to press the applications key to open and run the file as an administrator.

HTH,
Blaster


On 9/21/16, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
In other words, yes it will only apply the changes to favorites which
exist at the time the command is run.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again


Whaaat?



Can you reword that?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@outlook.com



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again



I didn't think of that, but yes unfortunately new favorites will not
automatically inherit the integrity level.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:44 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] favorites again



Hi,



Blaster sent in a resolution that has plagued blind computer users
lately lol. It's appreciated, as always; however, here is my question.



I just added another favorite, and when I went to launch it, it
gave me that save dialog again, similar to the previous incident
before blasters solution. My other favorites I have there launch as
expected, but the two new ones I added, that dreaded dialog pops up.
Will I need to do that thing again, that blaster sent?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@outlook.com






Re: favorites again

Carlos
 

Also, remember to run the script as administrator.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again


Is the pause and exit, apart of the code?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blaster Nil8
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again

Since I didn't have this issue when I got my update I didn't even think about what would happen when adding new favorites shortcuts.
This really needs to be a Microsoft fix, However, I took Carlos's idea for a batch file and created one that works, here it is:

Open a notepad file, I just press the Alt key and tap the letter R to open a run dialog box, then type notepad and press the enter key.

Paste in this code:
@echo Reset integrity level of favorites shortcuts pause

cd %USERPROFILE%\Favorites && ICACLS *.URL /L /T /SETINTEGRITYLEVEL MED

pause
Exit

Save the file.

Rename the file by replacing the .txt extention with a .bat extension.

You'll need to press the applications key to open and run the file as an administrator.

HTH,
Blaster


On 9/21/16, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
In other words, yes it will only apply the changes to favorites which
exist at the time the command is run.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again


Whaaat?



Can you reword that?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@outlook.com



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again



I didn't think of that, but yes unfortunately new favorites will not
automatically inherit the integrity level.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:44 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] favorites again



Hi,



Blaster sent in a resolution that has plagued blind computer users
lately lol. It's appreciated, as always; however, here is my question.



I just added another favorite, and when I went to launch it, it
gave me that save dialog again, similar to the previous incident
before blasters solution. My other favorites I have there launch as
expected, but the two new ones I added, that dreaded dialog pops up.
Will I need to do that thing again, that blaster sent?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@outlook.com






Re: favorites again

Carlos
 

Yes, but they're not required. And it might actually be better to exclude the pauses if you want the script to run and close automatically when you click it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again


Is the pause and exit, apart of the code?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blaster Nil8
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again

Since I didn't have this issue when I got my update I didn't even think about what would happen when adding new favorites shortcuts.
This really needs to be a Microsoft fix, However, I took Carlos's idea for a batch file and created one that works, here it is:

Open a notepad file, I just press the Alt key and tap the letter R to open a run dialog box, then type notepad and press the enter key.

Paste in this code:
@echo Reset integrity level of favorites shortcuts pause

cd %USERPROFILE%\Favorites && ICACLS *.URL /L /T /SETINTEGRITYLEVEL MED

pause
Exit

Save the file.

Rename the file by replacing the .txt extention with a .bat extension.

You'll need to press the applications key to open and run the file as an administrator.

HTH,
Blaster


On 9/21/16, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
In other words, yes it will only apply the changes to favorites which
exist at the time the command is run.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again


Whaaat?



Can you reword that?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@outlook.com



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again



I didn't think of that, but yes unfortunately new favorites will not
automatically inherit the integrity level.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:44 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] favorites again



Hi,



Blaster sent in a resolution that has plagued blind computer users
lately lol. It's appreciated, as always; however, here is my question.



I just added another favorite, and when I went to launch it, it
gave me that save dialog again, similar to the previous incident
before blasters solution. My other favorites I have there launch as
expected, but the two new ones I added, that dreaded dialog pops up.
Will I need to do that thing again, that blaster sent?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@outlook.com






Re: favorites again

Kimsan
 

Is the pause and exit, apart of the code?

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blaster Nil8
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:25 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again

Since I didn't have this issue when I got my update I didn't even think about what would happen when adding new favorites shortcuts.
This really needs to be a Microsoft fix, However, I took Carlos's idea for a batch file and created one that works, here it is:

Open a notepad file, I just press the Alt key and tap the letter R to open a run dialog box, then type notepad and press the enter key.

Paste in this code:
@echo Reset integrity level of favorites shortcuts pause

cd %USERPROFILE%\Favorites && ICACLS *.URL /L /T /SETINTEGRITYLEVEL MED

pause
Exit

Save the file.

Rename the file by replacing the .txt extention with a .bat extension.

You'll need to press the applications key to open and run the file as an administrator.

HTH,
Blaster


On 9/21/16, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
In other words, yes it will only apply the changes to favorites which
exist at the time the command is run.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again


Whaaat?



Can you reword that?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@outlook.com



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorites again



I didn't think of that, but yes unfortunately new favorites will not
automatically inherit the integrity level.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:44 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] favorites again



Hi,



Blaster sent in a resolution that has plagued blind computer users
lately lol. It's appreciated, as always; however, here is my question.



I just added another favorite, and when I went to launch it, it
gave me that save dialog again, similar to the previous incident
before blasters solution. My other favorites I have there launch as
expected, but the two new ones I added, that dreaded dialog pops up.
Will I need to do that thing again, that blaster sent?



Kimsan Song

kimsansong@outlook.com






Re: victor reader stream

Monte Single
 

Hi,I  have a 2nd  gen victor stream. It has wifi, plays daisy books, a large variety of audio files, does t t s for .txt, .rtf, .doc, .html, .brf, .epub etc.. it is also a digital recorder in .mp3, .wav, and others. You can check it out at

 

www.humanware.com

 

I think it costs about 350 US  dollars.  A wonderful device.

 

Later,

Monte

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Healy
Sent: September-21-16 9:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] victor reader stream

 

what exactly does this do? i've never seen one. i'm guessing its for reading books but what types of books, what format?

thanks,

shirley

 


Re: android phones and lists

Kwork
 

Hi Jim,
As you probably saw, I ended up staying with Apple, at least for now. The deal through TMobile was too restrictive on the Samsung phone I was considering, so I ended up with the iPhone SE. I may switch still, but I want to afford a better phone first. People were telling me off list that the budget line Samsung phones wouldn't be all that accessible compared to higher level models.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] android phones and lists

Travis, I just responded to some comments on the Eyes-Free list and I more or less said that I switched from iPhone to Android and really didn't experience a great deal of problems.  Of course this has to do with your technical ability as well as your approach to the change.  I use the approach that every phone is going to be different so I must approach it as such.  I firmly believe that if you approach it with an open mind that you will have a good experience -not totally flawless<SMILE!>.  Just my 2-sense worth for whatever that may be worth! Catch Ya All Later There! de

<KF8LT><Jim>. 


On 20-Sep-16 02:35, Kwork wrote:
Olusegun, I just submitted my beginner question to the eyes free list, so we'll see what happens. I imagine I'll need to completely unlearn anything I learned with iOS, and I'll need to forget I ever had an Apple phone. LOL
Thanks for the info.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] android phones and lists

Travis, you can ask right here; else, you can subscribe to the eyes-free mailing list by sending a blank message to:

eyes-free+subscribe@...

Be aware that it can be a high-traffic list!  There are iOS enthusiasts who keep wanting Android to imitate iOS and if it doesn't, it isn't accessible!  There will be a new learning curve and you will need to give yourself quite a bit of time to get used to Android's way of doing business!  The phones are reasonably priced, starting from about $50 to about $850 depending on what you want to do with your Android phone.  I will suggest that in choosing a phone, look for phones that run at least Lollipop 5.1. 

Lastly, be ready to have your patience tested!  You'll need more than an ounce of it again and again as you learn to tweak Android your way.  Good luck and keep the questions coming!

Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Flip Phone

Nancy Hill
 

Ann,


In considering replacement phones, if I had gone with another flip, I was considering the following, which I will let you have the pleasure of investigating, if you so desire.  In handling  this phone, it seemed very sturdy and had buttons, very nice, noticeable buttons.  :)


The DuraXV+ by Kyocera is a tough, dependable basic phone. Designed to meet military standards for durability, this rugged flip phone can handle water, dust, drops, extreme temps and generally harsh environments. You can easily view the screen in sunlight, use the keypad with gloves on and with Smart Sonic Receiver, you can hear calls clearly when things around you get noisy.


Regards,

Nancy




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Carlos
 


digital recorders

Shirley and guide dog nitro <irishandblind1980@...>
 

what models of digital recorders have the voice guidance in the menus? and how expensive are they?
i know they are made by olympus. has anyone got recommendations?
thanks,
shirley



victor reader stream

Shirley and guide dog nitro <irishandblind1980@...>
 

what exactly does this do? i've never seen one. i'm guessing its for reading books but what types of books, what format?
thanks,
shirley



Re: Flip phone questions.

Nancy Hill
 

Ann, I had the original Revere for about 6 years...and I really enjoyed it because it was easy to use the buttons, tell who to call, etc. It was also solidly built. I got the Revere 3 in Sept of last year. From the start, it did not feel as well made, it did not understand my commands as well, and I did not get good battery life. The phone would be fully charged to start the day and then I might make just a couple of business calls instead of a couple of personal calls and before the end of the evening 3 would be telling me I needed to recharge it. That is why, in desperation I went to the IPhone SE. Yes, there is a learning curve, but my Verizon Rep set it up as I asked which was to allow me to only use it as a phone just to make and answer calls. When I get comfortable with the SE, I might branch out to use its other abilities, but right now I am satisfied that I can make and receive calls and thatSiri understand my voice much better than the 3 ever did.


I would be interested in knowing why you do not like the IPhone you have, but please tell me directly. My addie is below my name.


Good Luck!


Nancy


girlyscream@comcast.net

On 9/21/2016 8:44 PM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

Nancy, this doesn't help me at all. Why was it bad? What were the features you didn't like? What about these other phones, what makes them better? If you're going to review something, you need to prove your point, justify your value statement. I'm looking for valid opinions, pro and con for a flip phone like the LG Revere 3. I hate my iPhone, and I will cheerfully tell you why if you ask. Suffice it to say, I wanted to strangle Siri this morning. I hate flicking and flacking and taking way more time than necessary to get something done. I don't have *time* for an iPhone and the machanations needed to operate it. I want buttons, accessible, understandable buttons. I don't want to have to talk to a machine to dial a telephone and hear her interrupt me while I'm texting to say, "Your message says ... do you want to send this message now?" You can't continue with the same message, you have to start all over again, and you can't erase something you've said to Siri. The whole process drives me nuts. I want buttons, buttons, buttons, I don't want a tappitable tipitable topitable excuse for an interface!

Ann P.

Original message:
Ann,

My Revere 3 was so bad, I switched to an IPhone SE-64.

There is also a Lg Terra.

Nancy

On 9/21/2016 7:49 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,
If you decide to get a new phone, I've been looking seriously at the
LG Revere 3.
Ann P.



Re: Flip phone questions.

Carlos
 

There is no push button phone with the flexibility of a smart phone like the Galaxy S7 that I am aware of.  The closest is probably the BlackBerry PRIV which is an Android phone with a slide out keyboard.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Flip phone questions.

Hi there FOlks!


Just a question and comment or two.  First of all, I haven't yet found a push-button pone that comes close to comparing to the features on an iPhone or Android.  If someone could suggest such a phone, I would be more than happy to check it out! I presently have the Galaxy S7 and I absolutely love it!  I have had to iPhones several years ago and am now on my 2nd Galaxy.  But as I stated if I could find a push-Button phone wit the same features and flexibility I would gladly switch back.  Can anyoine here suggest such a beast?  Thanks Much! de
<KF8L>T<Jim>.
On 21-Sep-16 21:34, Dave Mitchel wrote:
can you tell us how you really feel please? lol.

-----Original Message----- From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Flip phone questions.

Hi all,

Nancy, this doesn't help me at all.  Why was it bad?  What were the
features you didn't like?  What about these other phones, what makes
them better?  If you're going to review something, you need to prove
your point, justify your value statement.   I'm looking for valid
opinions, pro and con for a flip phone like the LG Revere 3.  I hate my
iPhone, and I will cheerfully tell you why if you ask.  Suffice it to
say, I wanted to strangle Siri this morning.  I hate flicking and
flacking and taking way more time than necessary to get something done.
I don't have *time* for an iPhone and the machanations needed to
operate it.  I want buttons, accessible, understandable buttons.  I
don't want to have to talk to a machine to dial a telephone and hear
her interrupt me while I'm texting to say, "Your message says ... do
you want to send this message now?"  You can't continue with the same
message, you have to start all over again, and you can't erase
something you've said to Siri.  The whole process drives me nuts.  I
want buttons, buttons, buttons, I don't want a tappitable tipitable
topitable excuse for an interface!

Ann P.

Original message:
Ann,


My Revere 3 was so bad, I switched to an IPhone SE-64.


There is also a Lg Terra.


Nancy


On 9/21/2016 7:49 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

If you decide to get a new phone, I've been looking seriously at the
LG Revere 3.

Ann P.







Re: Flip phone questions.

Kimsan
 

Sounds like Ann has been holding that in for a while…

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Flip phone questions.

 

Hi Ann,

 

You go girl!  Tell us how you really feel!  Get it all out!  LOL  LOL 

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Flip phone questions.

 

Hi all,

Nancy, this doesn't help me at all.  Why was it bad?  What were the
features you didn't like?  What about these other phones, what makes
them better?  If you're going to review something, you need to prove
your point, justify your value statement.   I'm looking for valid
opinions, pro and con for a flip phone like the LG Revere 3.  I hate my
iPhone, and I will cheerfully tell you why if you ask.  Suffice it to
say, I wanted to strangle Siri this morning.  I hate flicking and
flacking and taking way more time than necessary to get something done.
I don't have *time* for an iPhone and the machanations needed to
operate it.  I want buttons, accessible, understandable buttons.  I
don't want to have to talk to a machine to dial a telephone and hear
her interrupt me while I'm texting to say, "Your message says ... do
you want to send this message now?"  You can't continue with the same
message, you have to start all over again, and you can't erase
something you've said to Siri.  The whole process drives me nuts.  I
want buttons, buttons, buttons, I don't want a tappitable tipitable
topitable excuse for an interface!

Ann P.

Original message:
> Ann,


> My Revere 3 was so bad, I switched to an IPhone SE-64.


> There is also a Lg Terra.


> Nancy


> On 9/21/2016 7:49 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
>> Hi all,

>> If you decide to get a new phone, I've been looking seriously at the
>> LG Revere 3.

>> Ann P.



>

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
** New EMAIL:  akp@...
web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Flip phone questions.

Jim Wohlgamuth
 

Hi there FOlks!


Just a question and comment or two.  First of all, I haven't yet found a push-button pone that comes close to comparing to the features on an iPhone or Android.  If someone could suggest such a phone, I would be more than happy to check it out! I presently have the Galaxy S7 and I absolutely love it!  I have had to iPhones several years ago and am now on my 2nd Galaxy.  But as I stated if I could find a push-Button phone wit the same features and flexibility I would gladly switch back.  Can anyoine here suggest such a beast?  Thanks Much! de
<KF8L>T<Jim>.

On 21-Sep-16 21:34, Dave Mitchel wrote:
can you tell us how you really feel please? lol.

-----Original Message----- From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Flip phone questions.

Hi all,

Nancy, this doesn't help me at all.  Why was it bad?  What were the
features you didn't like?  What about these other phones, what makes
them better?  If you're going to review something, you need to prove
your point, justify your value statement.   I'm looking for valid
opinions, pro and con for a flip phone like the LG Revere 3.  I hate my
iPhone, and I will cheerfully tell you why if you ask.  Suffice it to
say, I wanted to strangle Siri this morning.  I hate flicking and
flacking and taking way more time than necessary to get something done.
I don't have *time* for an iPhone and the machanations needed to
operate it.  I want buttons, accessible, understandable buttons.  I
don't want to have to talk to a machine to dial a telephone and hear
her interrupt me while I'm texting to say, "Your message says ... do
you want to send this message now?"  You can't continue with the same
message, you have to start all over again, and you can't erase
something you've said to Siri.  The whole process drives me nuts.  I
want buttons, buttons, buttons, I don't want a tappitable tipitable
topitable excuse for an interface!

Ann P.

Original message:
Ann,


My Revere 3 was so bad, I switched to an IPhone SE-64.


There is also a Lg Terra.


Nancy


On 9/21/2016 7:49 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

If you decide to get a new phone, I've been looking seriously at the
LG Revere 3.

Ann P.







Re: Flip phone questions.

Dave Mitchel
 

can you tell us how you really feel please? lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Flip phone questions.

Hi all,

Nancy, this doesn't help me at all. Why was it bad? What were the
features you didn't like? What about these other phones, what makes
them better? If you're going to review something, you need to prove
your point, justify your value statement. I'm looking for valid
opinions, pro and con for a flip phone like the LG Revere 3. I hate my
iPhone, and I will cheerfully tell you why if you ask. Suffice it to
say, I wanted to strangle Siri this morning. I hate flicking and
flacking and taking way more time than necessary to get something done.
I don't have *time* for an iPhone and the machanations needed to
operate it. I want buttons, accessible, understandable buttons. I
don't want to have to talk to a machine to dial a telephone and hear
her interrupt me while I'm texting to say, "Your message says ... do
you want to send this message now?" You can't continue with the same
message, you have to start all over again, and you can't erase
something you've said to Siri. The whole process drives me nuts. I
want buttons, buttons, buttons, I don't want a tappitable tipitable
topitable excuse for an interface!

Ann P.

Original message:
Ann,

My Revere 3 was so bad, I switched to an IPhone SE-64.

There is also a Lg Terra.

Nancy

On 9/21/2016 7:49 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,
If you decide to get a new phone, I've been looking seriously at the
LG Revere 3.
Ann P.


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Re: Flip phone questions.

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Ann,
 
You go girl!  Tell us how you really feel!  Get it all out!  LOL  LOL 
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Flip phone questions.

Hi all,

Nancy, this doesn't help me at all.  Why was it bad?  What were the
features you didn't like?  What about these other phones, what makes
them better?  If you're going to review something, you need to prove
your point, justify your value statement.   I'm looking for valid
opinions, pro and con for a flip phone like the LG Revere 3.  I hate my
iPhone, and I will cheerfully tell you why if you ask.  Suffice it to
say, I wanted to strangle Siri this morning.  I hate flicking and
flacking and taking way more time than necessary to get something done.
I don't have *time* for an iPhone and the machanations needed to
operate it.  I want buttons, accessible, understandable buttons.  I
don't want to have to talk to a machine to dial a telephone and hear
her interrupt me while I'm texting to say, "Your message says ... do
you want to send this message now?"  You can't continue with the same
message, you have to start all over again, and you can't erase
something you've said to Siri.  The whole process drives me nuts.  I
want buttons, buttons, buttons, I don't want a tappitable tipitable
topitable excuse for an interface!

Ann P.

Original message:
> Ann,


> My Revere 3 was so bad, I switched to an IPhone SE-64.


> There is also a Lg Terra.


> Nancy


> On 9/21/2016 7:49 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
>> Hi all,

>> If you decide to get a new phone, I've been looking seriously at the
>> LG Revere 3.

>> Ann P.



>

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
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"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."



Re: Flip phone questions.

Carolyn Arnold
 

I'd like to hear what's all that bad about the L.G. Revere 3
too. In this apartment is also an iPhone, which used to be
mine. I cheerfully gave it to my husband and am so happy to
have the Revere. I could use the iPhone any time I want too,
but I too like those buttons, buttons, buttons! They work!

It is easier to do everything - enter a contact; find a
contact; call a contact; end a call; write a text message;
delete a contact; delete calls and texts - those are some
things that are easier.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Flip phone questions.

Hi all,

Nancy, this doesn't help me at all. Why was it bad? What
were the features you didn't like? What about these other
phones, what makes them better? If you're going to review
something, you need to prove
your point, justify your value statement. I'm looking for
valid
opinions, pro and con for a flip phone like the LG Revere 3.
I hate my iPhone, and I will cheerfully tell you why if you
ask. Suffice it to say, I wanted to strangle Siri this
morning. I hate flicking and flacking and taking way more
time than necessary to get something done.
I don't have *time* for an iPhone and the machanations
needed to operate it. I want buttons, accessible,
understandable buttons. I don't want to have to talk to a
machine to dial a telephone and hear her interrupt me while
I'm texting to say, "Your message says ... do you want to
send this message now?" You can't continue with the same
message, you have to start all over again, and you can't
erase something you've said to Siri. The whole process
drives me nuts. I want buttons, buttons, buttons, I don't
want a tappitable tipitable topitable excuse for an
interface!

Ann P.

Original message:
Ann,

My Revere 3 was so bad, I switched to an IPhone SE-64.

There is also a Lg Terra.

Nancy

On 9/21/2016 7:49 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,
If you decide to get a new phone, I've been looking
seriously at the
LG Revere 3.
Ann P.


--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
** New EMAIL: akp@sero.email
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Flip phone questions.

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Nancy, this doesn't help me at all. Why was it bad? What were the features you didn't like? What about these other phones, what makes them better? If you're going to review something, you need to prove your point, justify your value statement. I'm looking for valid opinions, pro and con for a flip phone like the LG Revere 3. I hate my iPhone, and I will cheerfully tell you why if you ask. Suffice it to say, I wanted to strangle Siri this morning. I hate flicking and flacking and taking way more time than necessary to get something done. I don't have *time* for an iPhone and the machanations needed to operate it. I want buttons, accessible, understandable buttons. I don't want to have to talk to a machine to dial a telephone and hear her interrupt me while I'm texting to say, "Your message says ... do you want to send this message now?" You can't continue with the same message, you have to start all over again, and you can't erase something you've said to Siri. The whole process drives me nuts. I want buttons, buttons, buttons, I don't want a tappitable tipitable topitable excuse for an interface!

Ann P.

Original message:

Ann,

My Revere 3 was so bad, I switched to an IPhone SE-64.

There is also a Lg Terra.

Nancy

On 9/21/2016 7:49 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,
If you decide to get a new phone, I've been looking seriously at the
LG Revere 3.
Ann P.


--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
** New EMAIL: akp@sero.email
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: The Holy Braille: A Tablet For The Visually Impaired. One of 10 innovations to win a 2016 Invention Award

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Well, it is indeed a "Holy Braille". If it becomes a reality, this would be superb. I'd love to see more people accessing Braille.

Ann P.

Original message:

The Holy Braille: A Tablet For The Visually Impaired. One of 10 innovations to win a 2016 Invention Award
University of Michigan looking to extend braille on tablets to more than just one line
Digital tablets provide access to a world of information—but there’s no elegant, affordable way for the visually impaired to read from them. That’s because current braille readers, which attach to the bottom of a tablet, provide room for only one line of text at a time. Researchers at the University of Michigan, led by Brent Gillespie, Alex Russomanno, Mark Burns, and Sile O’Modhrain, hope to develop a refreshable display to translate an entire page at once.
The project was partially motivated by O’Modhrain, who is visually impaired. “Existing displays don’t allow you to access lots of braille code and graphical information,” she says. “Math and music codes, for example, are displayed spatially, so that they’re spread over multiple lines.”
Existing technology could conceivably allow for a full-page braille screen that refreshes like a tablet. But the price would be astronomical. For instance, single-line displays that rely on electronics cost more than $3,000; expanding them to a full page could potentially raise the price to as high as $55,000. To reduce that cost, the team chose to make their device with microfluidics.
Here’s how: A refreshable display must raise and lower braille dots, a full page might include up to 10,000, to create a pattern. In the team’s device, a microfluidic chip controls this process by moving small doses of fluid through tiny channels. Their prototype is only a couple of inches wide, but the team hopes to expand it to a full-page display that would cost $1,000 to $2,000.
As for the device’s name, collaborator Noel Runyan coined a popular moniker: Holy Braille.
Watch this video, which automatically begins when you go to the page:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/holy-braille-tablet_us_57c44800e4b026734450f4b1
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Portal Tutoring
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