Hi, and if you mean the power button on the iPhone 6, rather than on the top, like with the 5S and below, as well as the SE, it is at the side.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] power key option?

If you mean Android, it should be in settings>accessibility. At least in
Nexus devices.

On 8/20/2016 12:46 PM, Billy Inglis wrote:

I'm wondering where the option? power key ends call is on the 6?, Billy

If you mean Android, it should be in settings>accessibility. At least in
Nexus devices.

On 8/20/2016 12:46 PM, Billy Inglis wrote:

I'm wondering where the option? power key ends call is on the 6?, Billy

.

Hi all,

Carlos, you do a wonderful job. Keep it up.

If I do find the answer to my question, I'll post it here.

Ann P.


Original message:

Well, I have no problem with someone reposting a question if you haven't
received a reply in a day or two, but just keep in mind that there are a
couple of possibilities why you might not receive a reply.

1. No one who has an answer has read your question. Remember that some
members may not necessarily read all messages, and some members may check
mail less frequently than others.

2. Someone who knows the answer has read your message, but either doesn't
have the time to answer at the moment or is feeling lazy and is waiting for
someone else to answer. LOL while I try to answer as many questions as I
can, I have been guilty of this one occasionally myself.

3. No one has an answer. While there are some quite knowledgeable members
on the list, sometimes we just don't know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

I will publically and shamefully admit, I'm one of them complainers haha.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Carlos
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

LOL yes, sometimes you just can't win. I've had quite a few complaints
from
members who received no replies at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

How about 'next heading'?

Quite a few people ask questions on lists such as this one, and then
complain later when nobody at all answered them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Hi all,

I guess I'll just have to write to Hims. Nowhere in the documentation
does it tell you how to access it when it is on the machine itself.
That is the question I ask. I asked how does one access the blessed
manual when it is on the machine, not on a computer, not as a doc file
but on the machine. I'm sorry to sound so frustrated, but I have to
ask, why be helpful when you're not?

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."

If you are sure it's an HP brand, you can use their automated tool:
http://support.hp.com
There you find the "Identify Now" button. Note that you may need to
install a small software.
Also, usually I find the model in msinfo32 with almost accurate result.

On 8/21/2016 4:32 AM, Rajmund wrote:

Where does one usually locate their laptop's manual? Just thought google would give relevant results which then co-respond with my model number.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

For the record, the spelling is Compaq, not Compact. And a model number
which is close may or may not use the same key sequence to access the menu,
but it cannot be assumed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

I would, but because of the google link, won't. But type into google, how
to access the bootable devices menu on HP compact 657, and, the very first
result that will come up is what I posted. although I thought it said s?
LOL, must reread it. That's why I'm thinking the instructions should be
close enough, because of the model.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

The link you posted does not directly refer to that model, but you can
try the instructions anyway. If that is in fact the correct information,
accessing the bootable devices menu does not seem to be as straight
forward as it is on newer machines. It says to press Escape immediately
after turning on the machine to display the startup menu and then F9 to
access the list of bootable devices. At that point, you should be able
to use the Arrow keys followed by Enter to select a device.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


It says compact 657.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 21 Aug 2016, at 11:08 am, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


What is the model number?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



OK, THIS IS WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE ENDS, WHEN YOU HAVE NO SIGHTED THAT KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT. I found out my laptop, and please don't laugh at
it's age, probably not the best idea to run secondary operating systems
of it, either, but anyway. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443326

Anyone used this particular sort of aged HP, to know what I'm meant to
do?







Sent from a Braille Sense



----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:45 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please







Do you mean boot older versions of Windows from a flash drive? If that
is

what you mean, the answer is not easily. You can read what I recently
wrote

about booting Windows from USB devices in this thread.

https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416“p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416

----- Original Message -----
https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416“p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416From:

"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

And is my aim. I don't want to mess up the booting sequence. Although,

question. Could I do this very same, or similar enough process, with, >
say,

older versions of windows?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:36 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

Just remember that there is a difference between changing the boot

sequence

in the BIOS and accessing the bootable devices menu. The latter is

probably

over all safer and accessing each will not use the same key.

----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:27 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

Hi,

Updates. Rebooting, reboots into windows by default, but thanks >> >
anyway.

About to find out the BIOS menu key for it.

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

You then have to boot from the flash drive. To boot using the >>
>> flash

drive,

you either have to change the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the

machine

will boot from USB first or figure out how to access the bootable

devices

menu so you can just select the flash drive directly. The second

option

is

easier, but you have to figure out the key for accessing the >> >>
bootable

devices menu for your particular model. Although as Rob says, on
>> >> some

systems the boot sequence may already be configured to boot from >>
>> USB

first

so you can just try rebooting and see if it works.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >> >>
please

Don't worry, you've answered it for me. So once this is done, >>
>> > what's

my

next step? Sorry, but I've not really found guides, and this is
>> >> > the

only

way we learn.

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:41 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >>
>> > please

I'm not sure what you mean. When you run Rufus, make sure that

"Large FAT32 (Default)"

is selected in the

"File system"

combo box.. Tab and make sure that the

"Create a bootable disk using"

checkbox is checked and then in the next combo box select

"ISO Image"

Now choose the

"Click to select an image"

button to browse for the ISO.

When the ISO image loads, Rufus should select the optimal >> >>
>> settings

by

default.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:32 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help

please

Do I burn it as ISO or DVD?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:56 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help

please

Yes, move it from the flash drive on to the laptop's hard >>
>> >> >> drive.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help

please

Problem... I downloaded the image with the braille sense,
>> >> >> >> > and

put

it

to

a

USB. Should I move it off there, to say, my downloads on

laptop,

and

do

it

that way?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:51 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, >>
>> >> >> > help

please

Do not put the ISO image on the flash drive. Leave it on

your

hard

drive,

load it using Rufus, and then let Rufus write it to the >>
>> >> >> >> flash

drive.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
>> >> >> >> >> help

please

Hi Carlos,

So, I put the ISO image on the USB, and have Rufus open.

Unfortunately,

this is where knowledge ends. So, I navigated the open

dialog

to

my

image,

the ISO, and pressed enter. What other options am I >>
>> >> >> >> > meant

to

change?

Am

I

good having the ISO on the same stick, into which I'm

burning,

or

would

it

be best if I used a different stick? I have 2 sticks >>
>> >> >> >> > right

here,

so

either

doesn't matter. Any help passing through this one would
>> >> >> >> >> > be

appreciated.

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:15 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,

help

please

No, you either have to burn it to a DVD which you can
>> >> >> >> >> >> do

with

the

Windows

built-in ISO burner or you have to write it to a flash

drive

for

which

you

will need third-party software like Rufus.

https://rufus.akeo.ie/

If Rufus does not work, most distributions have

instructions

on

their

page

for writing the image to a flash drive.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:09 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second >>
>> >> >> >> >> OS,

help

please

So, once it boots, I will have speech? Wow, pretty >>
>> >> >> >> >> > neat.

OK,

once

it

downloaded, what do I do with the ISO? Do I extract
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it,

then,

presumably,

run some sort of set up?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:06 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS,

help

please

Speech is provided by the Linux screen reader Orca.

With

Vinux

and

Sonar,

Orca is automatically enabled by default.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:01 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second

OS,

help

please

Once installed, where would I get speech from?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:47 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > second

OS,

help

please

You may initially need sighted assistance since
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> as

when

booting

into

any

other environment, you have to either change the

boot

sequence

in

the

BIOS

or access the bootable devices menu.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:29 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> second

OS,

help

please

Hi, OK, downloading the ISO from the first >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > link.

While

that's

downloading,

though, question. So while booting, or setting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up,

will

I

need

sighted,

or

will NVDA still be with me at that point?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:25 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a

second

OS,

help

please

What Linux distribution are you trying to

install?

Not

all

Linux

distros

are accessible and even those that are may not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be

immediately

accessible

after installation. Two Linux distros which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are

guaranteed

to

be

accessible

are Vinux

http://vinuxproject.org/

and Sonar.

http://sonargnulinux.com/

As for installing Linux in a dual boot

configuration,

it

partially

depends

on the distro, but usually you have to boot >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from

the

DVD

or

flash

drive

first, then when you choose to actually >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> install

it

on

to

the

hard

drive,

you

will be given the option of setting up a dual

boot

configuration.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:09 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> second

OS,

help

please

Hi,

So, trying to install linux here. I got as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > far

as

downloading

4.7,

the

entire OS, however, I'm confused as to how I

would

go

about

doing

the

actual process.

http://www.howtogeek.com/214571/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-pc/

Says to: "Boot from that drive and install
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it

on

your

system,

making

sure

you select the option that installs it

alongside

Windows -

don't

tell

it

to wipe your hard drive. It'll automatically

set

up a

Grub2

boot

loader

menu that lets you choose your preferred

operating

system

each

time

you

boot your computer." Well, how would I go >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > about

doing

that,

please?

Or

rather, will I need sighted help?

Sent from a Braille Sense

Hello, I did look in MSINFO32, that's where I know its a HP, and the model. I'll try their web site you've gave me, and see what happens.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

If you are sure it's an HP brand, you can use their automated tool:
http://support.hp.com
There you find the "Identify Now" button. Note that you may need to
install a small software.
Also, usually I find the model in msinfo32 with almost accurate result.

On 8/21/2016 4:32 AM, Rajmund wrote:

Where does one usually locate their laptop's manual? Just thought google would give relevant results which then co-respond with my model number.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

For the record, the spelling is Compaq, not Compact. And a model number
which is close may or may not use the same key sequence to access the menu,
but it cannot be assumed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

I would, but because of the google link, won't. But type into google, how
to access the bootable devices menu on HP compact 657, and, the very first
result that will come up is what I posted. although I thought it said s?
LOL, must reread it. That's why I'm thinking the instructions should be
close enough, because of the model.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

The link you posted does not directly refer to that model, but you can
try the instructions anyway. If that is in fact the correct information,
accessing the bootable devices menu does not seem to be as straight
forward as it is on newer machines. It says to press Escape immediately
after turning on the machine to display the startup menu and then F9 to
access the list of bootable devices. At that point, you should be able
to use the Arrow keys followed by Enter to select a device.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


It says compact 657.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 21 Aug 2016, at 11:08 am, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


What is the model number?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



OK, THIS IS WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE ENDS, WHEN YOU HAVE NO SIGHTED THAT KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT. I found out my laptop, and please don't laugh at
it's age, probably not the best idea to run secondary operating systems
of it, either, but anyway. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443326

Anyone used this particular sort of aged HP, to know what I'm meant to
do?







Sent from a Braille Sense



----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:45 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please







Do you mean boot older versions of Windows from a flash drive? If that
is

what you mean, the answer is not easily. You can read what I recently
wrote

about booting Windows from USB devices in this thread.

https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416“p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416

----- Original Message -----
https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416“p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416From:

"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

And is my aim. I don't want to mess up the booting sequence. Although,

question. Could I do this very same, or similar enough process, with, >
say,

older versions of windows?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:36 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

Just remember that there is a difference between changing the boot

sequence

in the BIOS and accessing the bootable devices menu. The latter is

probably

over all safer and accessing each will not use the same key.

----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:27 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

Hi,

Updates. Rebooting, reboots into windows by default, but thanks >> >
anyway.

About to find out the BIOS menu key for it.

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please

You then have to boot from the flash drive. To boot using the >>
>> flash

drive,

you either have to change the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the

machine

will boot from USB first or figure out how to access the bootable

devices

menu so you can just select the flash drive directly. The second

option

is

easier, but you have to figure out the key for accessing the >> >>
bootable

devices menu for your particular model. Although as Rob says, on
>> >> some

systems the boot sequence may already be configured to boot from >>
>> USB

first

so you can just try rebooting and see if it works.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >> >>
please

Don't worry, you've answered it for me. So once this is done, >>
>> > what's

my

next step? Sorry, but I've not really found guides, and this is
>> >> > the

only

way we learn.

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:41 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >>
>> > please

I'm not sure what you mean. When you run Rufus, make sure that

"Large FAT32 (Default)"

is selected in the

"File system"

combo box.. Tab and make sure that the

"Create a bootable disk using"

checkbox is checked and then in the next combo box select

"ISO Image"

Now choose the

"Click to select an image"

button to browse for the ISO.

When the ISO image loads, Rufus should select the optimal >> >>
>> settings

by

default.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:32 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help

please

Do I burn it as ISO or DVD?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:56 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help

please

Yes, move it from the flash drive on to the laptop's hard >>
>> >> >> drive.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help

please

Problem... I downloaded the image with the braille sense,
>> >> >> >> > and

put

it

to

a

USB. Should I move it off there, to say, my downloads on

laptop,

and

do

it

that way?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:51 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, >>
>> >> >> > help

please

Do not put the ISO image on the flash drive. Leave it on

your

hard

drive,

load it using Rufus, and then let Rufus write it to the >>
>> >> >> >> flash

drive.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:47 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
>> >> >> >> >> help

please

Hi Carlos,

So, I put the ISO image on the USB, and have Rufus open.

Unfortunately,

this is where knowledge ends. So, I navigated the open

dialog

to

my

image,

the ISO, and pressed enter. What other options am I >>
>> >> >> >> > meant

to

change?

Am

I

good having the ISO on the same stick, into which I'm

burning,

or

would

it

be best if I used a different stick? I have 2 sticks >>
>> >> >> >> > right

here,

so

either

doesn't matter. Any help passing through this one would
>> >> >> >> >> > be

appreciated.

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:15 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,

help

please

No, you either have to burn it to a DVD which you can
>> >> >> >> >> >> do

with

the

Windows

built-in ISO burner or you have to write it to a flash

drive

for

which

you

will need third-party software like Rufus.

https://rufus.akeo.ie/

If Rufus does not work, most distributions have

instructions

on

their

page

for writing the image to a flash drive.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:09 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second >>
>> >> >> >> >> OS,

help

please

So, once it boots, I will have speech? Wow, pretty >>
>> >> >> >> >> > neat.

OK,

once

it

downloaded, what do I do with the ISO? Do I extract
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it,

then,

presumably,

run some sort of set up?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:06 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS,

help

please

Speech is provided by the Linux screen reader Orca.

With

Vinux

and

Sonar,

Orca is automatically enabled by default.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:01 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second

OS,

help

please

Once installed, where would I get speech from?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:47 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > second

OS,

help

please

You may initially need sighted assistance since
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> as

when

booting

into

any

other environment, you have to either change the

boot

sequence

in

the

BIOS

or access the bootable devices menu.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:29 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> second

OS,

help

please

Hi, OK, downloading the ISO from the first >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > link.

While

that's

downloading,

though, question. So while booting, or setting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up,

will

I

need

sighted,

or

will NVDA still be with me at that point?

Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:25 pm

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a

second

OS,

help

please

What Linux distribution are you trying to

install?

Not

all

Linux

distros

are accessible and even those that are may not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be

immediately

accessible

after installation. Two Linux distros which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are

guaranteed

to

be

accessible

are Vinux

http://vinuxproject.org/

and Sonar.

http://sonargnulinux.com/

As for installing Linux in a dual boot

configuration,

it

partially

depends

on the distro, but usually you have to boot >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from

the

DVD

or

flash

drive

first, then when you choose to actually >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> install

it

on

to

the

hard

drive,

you

will be given the option of setting up a dual

boot

configuration.

----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:09 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> second

OS,

help

please

Hi,

So, trying to install linux here. I got as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > far

as

downloading

4.7,

the

entire OS, however, I'm confused as to how I

would

go

about

doing

the

actual process.

http://www.howtogeek.com/214571/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-pc/

Says to: "Boot from that drive and install
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it

on

your

system,

making

sure

you select the option that installs it

alongside

Windows -

don't

tell

it

to wipe your hard drive. It'll automatically

set

up a

Grub2

boot

loader

menu that lets you choose your preferred

operating

system

each

time

you

boot your computer." Well, how would I go >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > about

doing

that,

please?

Or

rather, will I need sighted help?

Sent from a Braille Sense