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Re: power key option?

Billy Inglis
 

hello, What i meant. How you answer and end calls on an iphone6?, Billy On 20/08/2016 20:53, Rajmund wrote:

Hi, and if you mean the power button on the iPhone 6, rather than on the top, like with the 5S and below, as well as the SE, it is at the side.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] power key option?



If you mean Android, it should be in settings>accessibility. At least in
Nexus devices.

On 8/20/2016 12:46 PM, Billy Inglis wrote:
I'm wondering where the option? power key ends call is on the 6?, Billy





Re: power key option?

Billy Inglis
 

no, i meant on an iphone6, Billy

On 20/08/2016 20:49, Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io wrote:
If you mean Android, it should be in settings>accessibility. At least in
Nexus devices.

On 8/20/2016 12:46 PM, Billy Inglis wrote:
I'm wondering where the option? power key ends call is on the 6?, Billy



.


Re: question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Carlos
 

Thanks Ann.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@samobile.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY


Hi all,

Carlos, you do a wonderful job. Keep it up.

If I do find the answer to my question, I'll post it here.

Ann P.


Original message:
Well, I have no problem with someone reposting a question if you haven't
received a reply in a day or two, but just keep in mind that there are a
couple of possibilities why you might not receive a reply.
1. No one who has an answer has read your question. Remember that some
members may not necessarily read all messages, and some members may check
mail less frequently than others.
2. Someone who knows the answer has read your message, but either doesn't
have the time to answer at the moment or is feeling lazy and is waiting for
someone else to answer. LOL while I try to answer as many questions as I
can, I have been guilty of this one occasionally myself.
3. No one has an answer. While there are some quite knowledgeable members
on the list, sometimes we just don't know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

I will publically and shamefully admit, I'm one of them complainers haha.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Carlos
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY
LOL yes, sometimes you just can't win. I've had quite a few complaints
from
members who received no replies at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

How about 'next heading'?
Quite a few people ask questions on lists such as this one, and then
complain later when nobody at all answered them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY
Hi all,
I guess I'll just have to write to Hims. Nowhere in the documentation
does it tell you how to access it when it is on the machine itself.
That is the question I ask. I asked how does one access the blessed
manual when it is on the machine, not on a computer, not as a doc file
but on the machine. I'm sorry to sound so frustrated, but I have to
ask, why be helpful when you're not?
Ann P.
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EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor
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Not all those who wander are lost."














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Re: installing linux as a second OS, help please

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

HP identifier:
Compaq 615 noteBook PC. (has a CD drive...) Model: VQ628EKSERIAL. AND the serial, which, I'll keep, if that's OK. :)



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----- Original Message -----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



If you are sure it's an HP brand, you can use their automated tool:
http://support.hp.com
There you find the "Identify Now" button. Note that you may need to
install a small software.
Also, usually I find the model in msinfo32 with almost accurate result.

On 8/21/2016 4:32 AM, Rajmund wrote:
Where does one usually locate their laptop's manual? Just thought google would give relevant results which then co-respond with my model number.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



For the record, the spelling is Compaq, not Compact. And a model number
which is close may or may not use the same key sequence to access the menu,
but it cannot be assumed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


I would, but because of the google link, won't. But type into google, how
to access the bootable devices menu on HP compact 657, and, the very first
result that will come up is what I posted. although I thought it said s?
LOL, must reread it. That's why I'm thinking the instructions should be
close enough, because of the model.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



The link you posted does not directly refer to that model, but you can
try the instructions anyway. If that is in fact the correct information,
accessing the bootable devices menu does not seem to be as straight
forward as it is on newer machines. It says to press Escape immediately
after turning on the machine to display the startup menu and then F9 to
access the list of bootable devices. At that point, you should be able
to use the Arrow keys followed by Enter to select a device.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


It says compact 657.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 21 Aug 2016, at 11:08 am, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


What is the model number?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



OK, THIS IS WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE ENDS, WHEN YOU HAVE NO SIGHTED THAT KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT. I found out my laptop, and please don't laugh at
it's age, probably not the best idea to run secondary operating systems
of it, either, but anyway. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443326

Anyone used this particular sort of aged HP, to know what I'm meant to
do?







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----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:45 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please







Do you mean boot older versions of Windows from a flash drive? If that
is

what you mean, the answer is not easily. You can read what I recently
wrote

about booting Windows from USB devices in this thread.

https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416

----- Original Message -----
https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416From:

"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please





And is my aim. I don't want to mess up the booting sequence. Although,
question. Could I do this very same, or similar enough process, with, >
say,
older versions of windows?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Just remember that there is a difference between changing the boot
sequence
in the BIOS and accessing the bootable devices menu. The latter is
probably
over all safer and accessing each will not use the same key.
----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Hi,
Updates. Rebooting, reboots into windows by default, but thanks >> >
anyway.
About to find out the BIOS menu key for it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
You then have to boot from the flash drive. To boot using the >>
>> flash
drive,
you either have to change the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the
machine
will boot from USB first or figure out how to access the bootable
devices
menu so you can just select the flash drive directly. The second
option
is
easier, but you have to figure out the key for accessing the >> >>
bootable
devices menu for your particular model. Although as Rob says, on
>> >> some
systems the boot sequence may already be configured to boot from >>
>> USB
first
so you can just try rebooting and see if it works.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >> >>
please
Don't worry, you've answered it for me. So once this is done, >>
>> > what's
my
next step? Sorry, but I've not really found guides, and this is
>> >> > the
only
way we learn.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >>
>> > please
I'm not sure what you mean. When you run Rufus, make sure that
"Large FAT32 (Default)"
is selected in the
"File system"
combo box.. Tab and make sure that the
"Create a bootable disk using"
checkbox is checked and then in the next combo box select
"ISO Image"
Now choose the
"Click to select an image"
button to browse for the ISO.
When the ISO image loads, Rufus should select the optimal >> >>
>> settings
by
default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Do I burn it as ISO or DVD?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Yes, move it from the flash drive on to the laptop's hard >>
>> >> >> drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Problem... I downloaded the image with the braille sense,
>> >> >> >> > and
put
it
to
a
USB. Should I move it off there, to say, my downloads on
laptop,
and
do
it
that way?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, >>
>> >> >> > help
please
Do not put the ISO image on the flash drive. Leave it on
your
hard
drive,
load it using Rufus, and then let Rufus write it to the >>
>> >> >> >> flash
drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
>> >> >> >> >> help
please
Hi Carlos,
So, I put the ISO image on the USB, and have Rufus open.
Unfortunately,
this is where knowledge ends. So, I navigated the open
dialog
to
my
image,
the ISO, and pressed enter. What other options am I >>
>> >> >> >> > meant
to
change?
Am
I
good having the ISO on the same stick, into which I'm
burning,
or
would
it
be best if I used a different stick? I have 2 sticks >>
>> >> >> >> > right
here,
so
either
doesn't matter. Any help passing through this one would
>> >> >> >> >> > be
appreciated.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
help
please
No, you either have to burn it to a DVD which you can
>> >> >> >> >> >> do
with
the
Windows
built-in ISO burner or you have to write it to a flash
drive
for
which
you
will need third-party software like Rufus.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/
If Rufus does not work, most distributions have
instructions
on
their
page
for writing the image to a flash drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second >>
>> >> >> >> >> OS,
help
please
So, once it boots, I will have speech? Wow, pretty >>
>> >> >> >> >> > neat.
OK,
once
it
downloaded, what do I do with the ISO? Do I extract
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it,
then,
presumably,
run some sort of set up?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS,
help
please
Speech is provided by the Linux screen reader Orca.
With
Vinux
and
Sonar,
Orca is automatically enabled by default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
OS,
help
please
Once installed, where would I get speech from?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > second
OS,
help
please
You may initially need sighted assistance since
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> as
when
booting
into
any
other environment, you have to either change the
boot
sequence
in
the
BIOS
or access the bootable devices menu.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi, OK, downloading the ISO from the first >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > link.
While
that's
downloading,
though, question. So while booting, or setting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up,
will
I
need
sighted,
or
will NVDA still be with me at that point?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a
second
OS,
help
please
What Linux distribution are you trying to
install?
Not
all
Linux
distros
are accessible and even those that are may not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
immediately
accessible
after installation. Two Linux distros which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are
guaranteed
to
be
accessible
are Vinux
http://vinuxproject.org/
and Sonar.
http://sonargnulinux.com/
As for installing Linux in a dual boot
configuration,
it
partially
depends
on the distro, but usually you have to boot >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
the
DVD
or
flash
drive
first, then when you choose to actually >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> install
it
on
to
the
hard
drive,
you
will be given the option of setting up a dual
boot
configuration.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:09 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi,
So, trying to install linux here. I got as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > far
as
downloading
4.7,
the
entire OS, however, I'm confused as to how I
would
go
about
doing
the
actual process.
http://www.howtogeek.com/214571/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-pc/
Says to: "Boot from that drive and install
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it
on
your
system,
making
sure
you select the option that installs it
alongside
Windows -
don't
tell
it
to wipe your hard drive. It'll automatically
set
up a
Grub2
boot
loader
menu that lets you choose your preferred
operating
system
each
time
you
boot your computer." Well, how would I go >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > about
doing
that,
please?
Or
rather, will I need sighted help?
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Re: installing linux as a second OS, help please

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

If you are comfortable working in the Command Prompt you can also try running this in an elevated Command Prompt window:
wmic baseboard get product,Manufacturer,version,serialnumber
This will give you some more information which you cannot usually find in msinfo32.
Carlos... I want those $s too... <Smile>!

On 8/21/2016 4:56 AM, Rajmund wrote:
Hello, I did look in MSINFO32, that's where I know its a HP, and the model. I'll try their web site you've gave me, and see what happens.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



If you are sure it's an HP brand, you can use their automated tool:
http://support.hp.com
There you find the "Identify Now" button. Note that you may need to
install a small software.
Also, usually I find the model in msinfo32 with almost accurate result.

On 8/21/2016 4:32 AM, Rajmund wrote:
Where does one usually locate their laptop's manual? Just thought google would give relevant results which then co-respond with my model number.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



For the record, the spelling is Compaq, not Compact. And a model number
which is close may or may not use the same key sequence to access the menu,
but it cannot be assumed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


I would, but because of the google link, won't. But type into google, how
to access the bootable devices menu on HP compact 657, and, the very first
result that will come up is what I posted. although I thought it said s?
LOL, must reread it. That's why I'm thinking the instructions should be
close enough, because of the model.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



The link you posted does not directly refer to that model, but you can
try the instructions anyway. If that is in fact the correct information,
accessing the bootable devices menu does not seem to be as straight
forward as it is on newer machines. It says to press Escape immediately
after turning on the machine to display the startup menu and then F9 to
access the list of bootable devices. At that point, you should be able
to use the Arrow keys followed by Enter to select a device.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


It says compact 657.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 21 Aug 2016, at 11:08 am, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


What is the model number?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



OK, THIS IS WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE ENDS, WHEN YOU HAVE NO SIGHTED THAT KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT. I found out my laptop, and please don't laugh at
it's age, probably not the best idea to run secondary operating systems
of it, either, but anyway. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443326

Anyone used this particular sort of aged HP, to know what I'm meant to
do?







Sent from a Braille Sense



----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:45 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please







Do you mean boot older versions of Windows from a flash drive? If that
is

what you mean, the answer is not easily. You can read what I recently
wrote

about booting Windows from USB devices in this thread.

https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416“p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416

----- Original Message -----
https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416“p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416From:

"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please





And is my aim. I don't want to mess up the booting sequence. Although,
question. Could I do this very same, or similar enough process, with, >
say,
older versions of windows?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Just remember that there is a difference between changing the boot
sequence
in the BIOS and accessing the bootable devices menu. The latter is
probably
over all safer and accessing each will not use the same key.
----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Hi,
Updates. Rebooting, reboots into windows by default, but thanks >> >
anyway.
About to find out the BIOS menu key for it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
You then have to boot from the flash drive. To boot using the >>
>> flash
drive,
you either have to change the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the
machine
will boot from USB first or figure out how to access the bootable
devices
menu so you can just select the flash drive directly. The second
option
is
easier, but you have to figure out the key for accessing the >> >>
bootable
devices menu for your particular model. Although as Rob says, on
>> >> some
systems the boot sequence may already be configured to boot from >>
>> USB
first
so you can just try rebooting and see if it works.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >> >>
please
Don't worry, you've answered it for me. So once this is done, >>
>> > what's
my
next step? Sorry, but I've not really found guides, and this is
>> >> > the
only
way we learn.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >>
>> > please
I'm not sure what you mean. When you run Rufus, make sure that
"Large FAT32 (Default)"
is selected in the
"File system"
combo box.. Tab and make sure that the
"Create a bootable disk using"
checkbox is checked and then in the next combo box select
"ISO Image"
Now choose the
"Click to select an image"
button to browse for the ISO.
When the ISO image loads, Rufus should select the optimal >> >>
>> settings
by
default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Do I burn it as ISO or DVD?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Yes, move it from the flash drive on to the laptop's hard >>
>> >> >> drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Problem... I downloaded the image with the braille sense,
>> >> >> >> > and
put
it
to
a
USB. Should I move it off there, to say, my downloads on
laptop,
and
do
it
that way?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, >>
>> >> >> > help
please
Do not put the ISO image on the flash drive. Leave it on
your
hard
drive,
load it using Rufus, and then let Rufus write it to the >>
>> >> >> >> flash
drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
>> >> >> >> >> help
please
Hi Carlos,
So, I put the ISO image on the USB, and have Rufus open.
Unfortunately,
this is where knowledge ends. So, I navigated the open
dialog
to
my
image,
the ISO, and pressed enter. What other options am I >>
>> >> >> >> > meant
to
change?
Am
I
good having the ISO on the same stick, into which I'm
burning,
or
would
it
be best if I used a different stick? I have 2 sticks >>
>> >> >> >> > right
here,
so
either
doesn't matter. Any help passing through this one would
>> >> >> >> >> > be
appreciated.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
help
please
No, you either have to burn it to a DVD which you can
>> >> >> >> >> >> do
with
the
Windows
built-in ISO burner or you have to write it to a flash
drive
for
which
you
will need third-party software like Rufus.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/
If Rufus does not work, most distributions have
instructions
on
their
page
for writing the image to a flash drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second >>
>> >> >> >> >> OS,
help
please
So, once it boots, I will have speech? Wow, pretty >>
>> >> >> >> >> > neat.
OK,
once
it
downloaded, what do I do with the ISO? Do I extract
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it,
then,
presumably,
run some sort of set up?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS,
help
please
Speech is provided by the Linux screen reader Orca.
With
Vinux
and
Sonar,
Orca is automatically enabled by default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
OS,
help
please
Once installed, where would I get speech from?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > second
OS,
help
please
You may initially need sighted assistance since
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> as
when
booting
into
any
other environment, you have to either change the
boot
sequence
in
the
BIOS
or access the bootable devices menu.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi, OK, downloading the ISO from the first >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > link.
While
that's
downloading,
though, question. So while booting, or setting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up,
will
I
need
sighted,
or
will NVDA still be with me at that point?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a
second
OS,
help
please
What Linux distribution are you trying to
install?
Not
all
Linux
distros
are accessible and even those that are may not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
immediately
accessible
after installation. Two Linux distros which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are
guaranteed
to
be
accessible
are Vinux
http://vinuxproject.org/
and Sonar.
http://sonargnulinux.com/
As for installing Linux in a dual boot
configuration,
it
partially
depends
on the distro, but usually you have to boot >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
the
DVD
or
flash
drive
first, then when you choose to actually >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> install
it
on
to
the
hard
drive,
you
will be given the option of setting up a dual
boot
configuration.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:09 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi,
So, trying to install linux here. I got as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > far
as
downloading
4.7,
the
entire OS, however, I'm confused as to how I
would
go
about
doing
the
actual process.
http://www.howtogeek.com/214571/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-pc/
Says to: "Boot from that drive and install
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it
on
your
system,
making
sure
you select the option that installs it
alongside
Windows -
don't
tell
it
to wipe your hard drive. It'll automatically
set
up a
Grub2
boot
loader
menu that lets you choose your preferred
operating
system
each
time
you
boot your computer." Well, how would I go >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > about
doing
that,
please?
Or
rather, will I need sighted help?
Sent from a Braille Sense





















Re: installing linux as a second OS, help please

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello, I did look in MSINFO32, that's where I know its a HP, and the model. I'll try their web site you've gave me, and see what happens.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Edmond Nazarian via Groups.io <gocloud84=aol.com@groups.io>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



If you are sure it's an HP brand, you can use their automated tool:
http://support.hp.com
There you find the "Identify Now" button. Note that you may need to
install a small software.
Also, usually I find the model in msinfo32 with almost accurate result.

On 8/21/2016 4:32 AM, Rajmund wrote:
Where does one usually locate their laptop's manual? Just thought google would give relevant results which then co-respond with my model number.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



For the record, the spelling is Compaq, not Compact. And a model number
which is close may or may not use the same key sequence to access the menu,
but it cannot be assumed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


I would, but because of the google link, won't. But type into google, how
to access the bootable devices menu on HP compact 657, and, the very first
result that will come up is what I posted. although I thought it said s?
LOL, must reread it. That's why I'm thinking the instructions should be
close enough, because of the model.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



The link you posted does not directly refer to that model, but you can
try the instructions anyway. If that is in fact the correct information,
accessing the bootable devices menu does not seem to be as straight
forward as it is on newer machines. It says to press Escape immediately
after turning on the machine to display the startup menu and then F9 to
access the list of bootable devices. At that point, you should be able
to use the Arrow keys followed by Enter to select a device.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


It says compact 657.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 21 Aug 2016, at 11:08 am, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


What is the model number?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



OK, THIS IS WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE ENDS, WHEN YOU HAVE NO SIGHTED THAT KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT. I found out my laptop, and please don't laugh at
it's age, probably not the best idea to run secondary operating systems
of it, either, but anyway. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443326

Anyone used this particular sort of aged HP, to know what I'm meant to
do?







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----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:45 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please







Do you mean boot older versions of Windows from a flash drive? If that
is

what you mean, the answer is not easily. You can read what I recently
wrote

about booting Windows from USB devices in this thread.

https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416

----- Original Message -----
https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416From:

"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please





And is my aim. I don't want to mess up the booting sequence. Although,
question. Could I do this very same, or similar enough process, with, >
say,
older versions of windows?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Just remember that there is a difference between changing the boot
sequence
in the BIOS and accessing the bootable devices menu. The latter is
probably
over all safer and accessing each will not use the same key.
----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Hi,
Updates. Rebooting, reboots into windows by default, but thanks >> >
anyway.
About to find out the BIOS menu key for it.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
You then have to boot from the flash drive. To boot using the >>
>> flash
drive,
you either have to change the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the
machine
will boot from USB first or figure out how to access the bootable
devices
menu so you can just select the flash drive directly. The second
option
is
easier, but you have to figure out the key for accessing the >> >>
bootable
devices menu for your particular model. Although as Rob says, on
>> >> some
systems the boot sequence may already be configured to boot from >>
>> USB
first
so you can just try rebooting and see if it works.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >> >>
please
Don't worry, you've answered it for me. So once this is done, >>
>> > what's
my
next step? Sorry, but I've not really found guides, and this is
>> >> > the
only
way we learn.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >>
>> > please
I'm not sure what you mean. When you run Rufus, make sure that
"Large FAT32 (Default)"
is selected in the
"File system"
combo box.. Tab and make sure that the
"Create a bootable disk using"
checkbox is checked and then in the next combo box select
"ISO Image"
Now choose the
"Click to select an image"
button to browse for the ISO.
When the ISO image loads, Rufus should select the optimal >> >>
>> settings
by
default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Do I burn it as ISO or DVD?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Yes, move it from the flash drive on to the laptop's hard >>
>> >> >> drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Problem... I downloaded the image with the braille sense,
>> >> >> >> > and
put
it
to
a
USB. Should I move it off there, to say, my downloads on
laptop,
and
do
it
that way?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, >>
>> >> >> > help
please
Do not put the ISO image on the flash drive. Leave it on
your
hard
drive,
load it using Rufus, and then let Rufus write it to the >>
>> >> >> >> flash
drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
>> >> >> >> >> help
please
Hi Carlos,
So, I put the ISO image on the USB, and have Rufus open.
Unfortunately,
this is where knowledge ends. So, I navigated the open
dialog
to
my
image,
the ISO, and pressed enter. What other options am I >>
>> >> >> >> > meant
to
change?
Am
I
good having the ISO on the same stick, into which I'm
burning,
or
would
it
be best if I used a different stick? I have 2 sticks >>
>> >> >> >> > right
here,
so
either
doesn't matter. Any help passing through this one would
>> >> >> >> >> > be
appreciated.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
help
please
No, you either have to burn it to a DVD which you can
>> >> >> >> >> >> do
with
the
Windows
built-in ISO burner or you have to write it to a flash
drive
for
which
you
will need third-party software like Rufus.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/
If Rufus does not work, most distributions have
instructions
on
their
page
for writing the image to a flash drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second >>
>> >> >> >> >> OS,
help
please
So, once it boots, I will have speech? Wow, pretty >>
>> >> >> >> >> > neat.
OK,
once
it
downloaded, what do I do with the ISO? Do I extract
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it,
then,
presumably,
run some sort of set up?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS,
help
please
Speech is provided by the Linux screen reader Orca.
With
Vinux
and
Sonar,
Orca is automatically enabled by default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
OS,
help
please
Once installed, where would I get speech from?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > second
OS,
help
please
You may initially need sighted assistance since
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> as
when
booting
into
any
other environment, you have to either change the
boot
sequence
in
the
BIOS
or access the bootable devices menu.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi, OK, downloading the ISO from the first >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > link.
While
that's
downloading,
though, question. So while booting, or setting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up,
will
I
need
sighted,
or
will NVDA still be with me at that point?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a
second
OS,
help
please
What Linux distribution are you trying to
install?
Not
all
Linux
distros
are accessible and even those that are may not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
immediately
accessible
after installation. Two Linux distros which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are
guaranteed
to
be
accessible
are Vinux
http://vinuxproject.org/
and Sonar.
http://sonargnulinux.com/
As for installing Linux in a dual boot
configuration,
it
partially
depends
on the distro, but usually you have to boot >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
the
DVD
or
flash
drive
first, then when you choose to actually >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> install
it
on
to
the
hard
drive,
you
will be given the option of setting up a dual
boot
configuration.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:09 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi,
So, trying to install linux here. I got as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > far
as
downloading
4.7,
the
entire OS, however, I'm confused as to how I
would
go
about
doing
the
actual process.
http://www.howtogeek.com/214571/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-pc/
Says to: "Boot from that drive and install
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it
on
your
system,
making
sure
you select the option that installs it
alongside
Windows -
don't
tell
it
to wipe your hard drive. It'll automatically
set
up a
Grub2
boot
loader
menu that lets you choose your preferred
operating
system
each
time
you
boot your computer." Well, how would I go >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > about
doing
that,
please?
Or
rather, will I need sighted help?
Sent from a Braille Sense





















Re: Transferring books from Computer

john s
 

Ann, you don't have to tab to the transfer button when done selecting. Just hit the enter key.


earlier, Ann Parsons, wrote:
Hi all,

Marcia, the easiest way to do this is to use the Humanware Companion.
It does all the work for you. All you have to do is make sure it finds your books on the computer and that it finds the card in the reader.

You just go down your list of books on your computer and use the spacebar to check the ones you want to place on the card. Tab to the transfer button and use the spacebar to activate it.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."

John


Re: NLS cartrages

john s
 

Ann, before going into the bookshelf, you don't have to stop the player, first. Just hold down the play button and it will enter the bookshelf.


earlier, Ann Parsons, wrote:
Hi all,

<smiling> You need to go to the book shelf on your player. Once you have turned the player on, and you're reading the first book, stop it from playing, then, hold down the square play/stop key for about five seconds. You will hear a mid-range beep. The machine will say bookshelf. You nevigate through the books using the right and left arrow keys by the play/stop button. Just press play on the book you want to read.

HTH,
Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."

John


Re: NLS cartrages

john s
 

Don, I have never heard this before and I don't think it is necessary.


earlier, Donald L. Roberts, wrote:

Howard, make sure that you put your NLS books in a folder on your cartridge, and that folder should be entitled $DBTDOCS.  Note the dollar sign if punctuation is turned off.


Don Roberts



On 8/20/2016 2:30 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
When I put more than one book on a cartrage, my NLS advanced player only seesw the first book.  How can I make him see all of them?  Thanks.
Howard



.

John


Re: installing linux as a second OS, help please

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

If you are sure it's an HP brand, you can use their automated tool:
http://support.hp.com
There you find the "Identify Now" button. Note that you may need to install a small software.
Also, usually I find the model in msinfo32 with almost accurate result.

On 8/21/2016 4:32 AM, Rajmund wrote:
Where does one usually locate their laptop's manual? Just thought google would give relevant results which then co-respond with my model number.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



For the record, the spelling is Compaq, not Compact. And a model number
which is close may or may not use the same key sequence to access the menu,
but it cannot be assumed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


I would, but because of the google link, won't. But type into google, how
to access the bootable devices menu on HP compact 657, and, the very first
result that will come up is what I posted. although I thought it said s?
LOL, must reread it. That's why I'm thinking the instructions should be
close enough, because of the model.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



The link you posted does not directly refer to that model, but you can
try the instructions anyway. If that is in fact the correct information,
accessing the bootable devices menu does not seem to be as straight
forward as it is on newer machines. It says to press Escape immediately
after turning on the machine to display the startup menu and then F9 to
access the list of bootable devices. At that point, you should be able
to use the Arrow keys followed by Enter to select a device.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


It says compact 657.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 21 Aug 2016, at 11:08 am, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


What is the model number?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



OK, THIS IS WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE ENDS, WHEN YOU HAVE NO SIGHTED THAT KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT. I found out my laptop, and please don't laugh at
it's age, probably not the best idea to run secondary operating systems
of it, either, but anyway. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443326

Anyone used this particular sort of aged HP, to know what I'm meant to
do?







Sent from a Braille Sense



----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:45 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please







Do you mean boot older versions of Windows from a flash drive? If that
is

what you mean, the answer is not easily. You can read what I recently
wrote

about booting Windows from USB devices in this thread.

https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416“p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416

----- Original Message -----
https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416“p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416From:

"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please





And is my aim. I don't want to mess up the booting sequence. Although,
question. Could I do this very same, or similar enough process, with, >
say,
older versions of windows?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Just remember that there is a difference between changing the boot
sequence
in the BIOS and accessing the bootable devices menu. The latter is
probably
over all safer and accessing each will not use the same key.
----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Hi,
Updates. Rebooting, reboots into windows by default, but thanks >> >
anyway.
About to find out the BIOS menu key for it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
You then have to boot from the flash drive. To boot using the >>
>> flash
drive,
you either have to change the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the
machine
will boot from USB first or figure out how to access the bootable
devices
menu so you can just select the flash drive directly. The second
option
is
easier, but you have to figure out the key for accessing the >> >>
bootable
devices menu for your particular model. Although as Rob says, on
>> >> some
systems the boot sequence may already be configured to boot from >>
>> USB
first
so you can just try rebooting and see if it works.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >> >>
please
Don't worry, you've answered it for me. So once this is done, >>
>> > what's
my
next step? Sorry, but I've not really found guides, and this is
>> >> > the
only
way we learn.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >>
>> > please
I'm not sure what you mean. When you run Rufus, make sure that
"Large FAT32 (Default)"
is selected in the
"File system"
combo box.. Tab and make sure that the
"Create a bootable disk using"
checkbox is checked and then in the next combo box select
"ISO Image"
Now choose the
"Click to select an image"
button to browse for the ISO.
When the ISO image loads, Rufus should select the optimal >> >>
>> settings
by
default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Do I burn it as ISO or DVD?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Yes, move it from the flash drive on to the laptop's hard >>
>> >> >> drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Problem... I downloaded the image with the braille sense,
>> >> >> >> > and
put
it
to
a
USB. Should I move it off there, to say, my downloads on
laptop,
and
do
it
that way?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, >>
>> >> >> > help
please
Do not put the ISO image on the flash drive. Leave it on
your
hard
drive,
load it using Rufus, and then let Rufus write it to the >>
>> >> >> >> flash
drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
>> >> >> >> >> help
please
Hi Carlos,
So, I put the ISO image on the USB, and have Rufus open.
Unfortunately,
this is where knowledge ends. So, I navigated the open
dialog
to
my
image,
the ISO, and pressed enter. What other options am I >>
>> >> >> >> > meant
to
change?
Am
I
good having the ISO on the same stick, into which I'm
burning,
or
would
it
be best if I used a different stick? I have 2 sticks >>
>> >> >> >> > right
here,
so
either
doesn't matter. Any help passing through this one would
>> >> >> >> >> > be
appreciated.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
help
please
No, you either have to burn it to a DVD which you can
>> >> >> >> >> >> do
with
the
Windows
built-in ISO burner or you have to write it to a flash
drive
for
which
you
will need third-party software like Rufus.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/
If Rufus does not work, most distributions have
instructions
on
their
page
for writing the image to a flash drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second >>
>> >> >> >> >> OS,
help
please
So, once it boots, I will have speech? Wow, pretty >>
>> >> >> >> >> > neat.
OK,
once
it
downloaded, what do I do with the ISO? Do I extract
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it,
then,
presumably,
run some sort of set up?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS,
help
please
Speech is provided by the Linux screen reader Orca.
With
Vinux
and
Sonar,
Orca is automatically enabled by default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
OS,
help
please
Once installed, where would I get speech from?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > second
OS,
help
please
You may initially need sighted assistance since
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> as
when
booting
into
any
other environment, you have to either change the
boot
sequence
in
the
BIOS
or access the bootable devices menu.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi, OK, downloading the ISO from the first >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > link.
While
that's
downloading,
though, question. So while booting, or setting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up,
will
I
need
sighted,
or
will NVDA still be with me at that point?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a
second
OS,
help
please
What Linux distribution are you trying to
install?
Not
all
Linux
distros
are accessible and even those that are may not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
immediately
accessible
after installation. Two Linux distros which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are
guaranteed
to
be
accessible
are Vinux
http://vinuxproject.org/
and Sonar.
http://sonargnulinux.com/
As for installing Linux in a dual boot
configuration,
it
partially
depends
on the distro, but usually you have to boot >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
the
DVD
or
flash
drive
first, then when you choose to actually >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> install
it
on
to
the
hard
drive,
you
will be given the option of setting up a dual
boot
configuration.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:09 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi,
So, trying to install linux here. I got as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > far
as
downloading
4.7,
the
entire OS, however, I'm confused as to how I
would
go
about
doing
the
actual process.
http://www.howtogeek.com/214571/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-pc/
Says to: "Boot from that drive and install
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it
on
your
system,
making
sure
you select the option that installs it
alongside
Windows -
don't
tell
it
to wipe your hard drive. It'll automatically
set
up a
Grub2
boot
loader
menu that lets you choose your preferred
operating
system
each
time
you
boot your computer." Well, how would I go >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > about
doing
that,
please?
Or
rather, will I need sighted help?
Sent from a Braille Sense



















Re: question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Yeah, too bad I'm often lazy, too.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:56 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY



Well, I have no problem with someone reposting a question if you haven't
received a reply in a day or two, but just keep in mind that there are a
couple of possibilities why you might not receive a reply.

1. No one who has an answer has read your question. Remember that some
members may not necessarily read all messages, and some members may check
mail less frequently than others.

2. Someone who knows the answer has read your message, but either doesn't
have the time to answer at the moment or is feeling lazy and is waiting for
someone else to answer. LOL while I try to answer as many questions as I
can, I have been guilty of this one occasionally myself.

3. No one has an answer. While there are some quite knowledgeable members
on the list, sometimes we just don't know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY


I will publically and shamefully admit, I'm one of them complainers haha.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Carlos
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

LOL yes, sometimes you just can't win. I've had quite a few complaints
from
members who received no replies at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY


How about 'next heading'?

Quite a few people ask questions on lists such as this one, and then
complain later when nobody at all answered them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Hi all,

I guess I'll just have to write to Hims. Nowhere in the documentation
does it tell you how to access it when it is on the machine itself.
That is the question I ask. I asked how does one access the blessed
manual when it is on the machine, not on a computer, not as a doc file
but on the machine. I'm sorry to sound so frustrated, but I have to
ask, why be helpful when you're not?

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."













Re: installing linux as a second OS, help please

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Where does one usually locate their laptop's manual? Just thought google would give relevant results which then co-respond with my model number.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



For the record, the spelling is Compaq, not Compact. And a model number
which is close may or may not use the same key sequence to access the menu,
but it cannot be assumed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


I would, but because of the google link, won't. But type into google, how
to access the bootable devices menu on HP compact 657, and, the very first
result that will come up is what I posted. although I thought it said s?
LOL, must reread it. That's why I'm thinking the instructions should be
close enough, because of the model.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



The link you posted does not directly refer to that model, but you can
try the instructions anyway. If that is in fact the correct information,
accessing the bootable devices menu does not seem to be as straight
forward as it is on newer machines. It says to press Escape immediately
after turning on the machine to display the startup menu and then F9 to
access the list of bootable devices. At that point, you should be able
to use the Arrow keys followed by Enter to select a device.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


It says compact 657.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 21 Aug 2016, at 11:08 am, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


What is the model number?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



OK, THIS IS WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE ENDS, WHEN YOU HAVE NO SIGHTED THAT KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT. I found out my laptop, and please don't laugh at
it's age, probably not the best idea to run secondary operating systems
of it, either, but anyway. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443326

Anyone used this particular sort of aged HP, to know what I'm meant to
do?







Sent from a Braille Sense



----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:45 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please







Do you mean boot older versions of Windows from a flash drive? If that
is

what you mean, the answer is not easily. You can read what I recently
wrote

about booting Windows from USB devices in this thread.

https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416

----- Original Message -----
https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416From:

"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please





And is my aim. I don't want to mess up the booting sequence. Although,
question. Could I do this very same, or similar enough process, with, >
say,
older versions of windows?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Just remember that there is a difference between changing the boot
sequence
in the BIOS and accessing the bootable devices menu. The latter is
probably
over all safer and accessing each will not use the same key.
----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Hi,
Updates. Rebooting, reboots into windows by default, but thanks >> >
anyway.
About to find out the BIOS menu key for it.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
You then have to boot from the flash drive. To boot using the >>
>> flash
drive,
you either have to change the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the
machine
will boot from USB first or figure out how to access the bootable
devices
menu so you can just select the flash drive directly. The second
option
is
easier, but you have to figure out the key for accessing the >> >>
bootable
devices menu for your particular model. Although as Rob says, on
>> >> some
systems the boot sequence may already be configured to boot from >>
>> USB
first
so you can just try rebooting and see if it works.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >> >>
please
Don't worry, you've answered it for me. So once this is done, >>
>> > what's
my
next step? Sorry, but I've not really found guides, and this is
>> >> > the
only
way we learn.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >>
>> > please
I'm not sure what you mean. When you run Rufus, make sure that
"Large FAT32 (Default)"
is selected in the
"File system"
combo box.. Tab and make sure that the
"Create a bootable disk using"
checkbox is checked and then in the next combo box select
"ISO Image"
Now choose the
"Click to select an image"
button to browse for the ISO.
When the ISO image loads, Rufus should select the optimal >> >>
>> settings
by
default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Do I burn it as ISO or DVD?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Yes, move it from the flash drive on to the laptop's hard >>
>> >> >> drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Problem... I downloaded the image with the braille sense,
>> >> >> >> > and
put
it
to
a
USB. Should I move it off there, to say, my downloads on
laptop,
and
do
it
that way?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, >>
>> >> >> > help
please
Do not put the ISO image on the flash drive. Leave it on
your
hard
drive,
load it using Rufus, and then let Rufus write it to the >>
>> >> >> >> flash
drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
>> >> >> >> >> help
please
Hi Carlos,
So, I put the ISO image on the USB, and have Rufus open.
Unfortunately,
this is where knowledge ends. So, I navigated the open
dialog
to
my
image,
the ISO, and pressed enter. What other options am I >>
>> >> >> >> > meant
to
change?
Am
I
good having the ISO on the same stick, into which I'm
burning,
or
would
it
be best if I used a different stick? I have 2 sticks >>
>> >> >> >> > right
here,
so
either
doesn't matter. Any help passing through this one would
>> >> >> >> >> > be
appreciated.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
help
please
No, you either have to burn it to a DVD which you can
>> >> >> >> >> >> do
with
the
Windows
built-in ISO burner or you have to write it to a flash
drive
for
which
you
will need third-party software like Rufus.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/
If Rufus does not work, most distributions have
instructions
on
their
page
for writing the image to a flash drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From:
"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second >>
>> >> >> >> >> OS,
help
please
So, once it boots, I will have speech? Wow, pretty >>
>> >> >> >> >> > neat.
OK,
once
it
downloaded, what do I do with the ISO? Do I extract
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it,
then,
presumably,
run some sort of set up?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS,
help
please
Speech is provided by the Linux screen reader Orca.
With
Vinux
and
Sonar,
Orca is automatically enabled by default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
OS,
help
please
Once installed, where would I get speech from?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > second
OS,
help
please
You may initially need sighted assistance since
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> as
when
booting
into
any
other environment, you have to either change the
boot
sequence
in
the
BIOS
or access the bootable devices menu.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi, OK, downloading the ISO from the first >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > link.
While
that's
downloading,
though, question. So while booting, or setting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up,
will
I
need
sighted,
or
will NVDA still be with me at that point?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a
second
OS,
help
please
What Linux distribution are you trying to
install?
Not
all
Linux
distros
are accessible and even those that are may not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
immediately
accessible
after installation. Two Linux distros which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are
guaranteed
to
be
accessible
are Vinux
http://vinuxproject.org/
and Sonar.
http://sonargnulinux.com/
As for installing Linux in a dual boot
configuration,
it
partially
depends
on the distro, but usually you have to boot >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
the
DVD
or
flash
drive
first, then when you choose to actually >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> install
it
on
to
the
hard
drive,
you
will be given the option of setting up a dual
boot
configuration.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:09 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi,
So, trying to install linux here. I got as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > far
as
downloading
4.7,
the
entire OS, however, I'm confused as to how I
would
go
about
doing
the
actual process.
http://www.howtogeek.com/214571/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-pc/
Says to: "Boot from that drive and install
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it
on
your
system,
making
sure
you select the option that installs it
alongside
Windows -
don't
tell
it
to wipe your hard drive. It'll automatically
set
up a
Grub2
boot
loader
menu that lets you choose your preferred
operating
system
each
time
you
boot your computer." Well, how would I go >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > about
doing
that,
please?
Or
rather, will I need sighted help?
Sent from a Braille Sense



















Re: question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Edmond Nazarian <gocloud84@...>
 

I believe it do not hurt giving Hims a call:
Sales 888-520-4467 | Tech Support 512-837-2000

On 8/21/2016 4:12 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

Flor, you're absolutely right. It was and is my responsibility to
communicate well. <smiling> I know it doesn't matter that I thought I
was being clear, what matters is whether you understood my message.

There's a lot going on with notetakers and tablets and what-all these
days. There were seven new machines exhibited at CSUN last March.
Amazing!

Well, my student has the manual, in .doc format at least so maybe we can
find what we need. If we can't, I'll rattle Hims' cage.

Ann P.


Re: question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Hi all,

Carlos, you do a wonderful job. Keep it up.

If I do find the answer to my question, I'll post it here.

Ann P.


Original message:

Well, I have no problem with someone reposting a question if you haven't
received a reply in a day or two, but just keep in mind that there are a
couple of possibilities why you might not receive a reply.
1. No one who has an answer has read your question. Remember that some
members may not necessarily read all messages, and some members may check
mail less frequently than others.
2. Someone who knows the answer has read your message, but either doesn't
have the time to answer at the moment or is feeling lazy and is waiting for
someone else to answer. LOL while I try to answer as many questions as I
can, I have been guilty of this one occasionally myself.
3. No one has an answer. While there are some quite knowledgeable members
on the list, sometimes we just don't know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

I will publically and shamefully admit, I'm one of them complainers haha.
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Carlos
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY
LOL yes, sometimes you just can't win. I've had quite a few complaints
from
members who received no replies at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

How about 'next heading'?
Quite a few people ask questions on lists such as this one, and then
complain later when nobody at all answered them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY
Hi all,
I guess I'll just have to write to Hims. Nowhere in the documentation
does it tell you how to access it when it is on the machine itself.
That is the question I ask. I asked how does one access the blessed
manual when it is on the machine, not on a computer, not as a doc file
but on the machine. I'm sorry to sound so frustrated, but I have to
ask, why be helpful when you're not?
Ann P.
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor
"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."














--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Hi all,

Flor, you're absolutely right. It was and is my responsibility to communicate well. <smiling> I know it doesn't matter that I thought I was being clear, what matters is whether you understood my message.

There's a lot going on with notetakers and tablets and what-all these days. There were seven new machines exhibited at CSUN last March. Amazing!

Well, my student has the manual, in .doc format at least so maybe we can find what we need. If we can't, I'll rattle Hims' cage.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Carlos
 

Well, I have no problem with someone reposting a question if you haven't received a reply in a day or two, but just keep in mind that there are a couple of possibilities why you might not receive a reply.

1. No one who has an answer has read your question. Remember that some members may not necessarily read all messages, and some members may check mail less frequently than others.

2. Someone who knows the answer has read your message, but either doesn't have the time to answer at the moment or is feeling lazy and is waiting for someone else to answer. LOL while I try to answer as many questions as I can, I have been guilty of this one occasionally myself.

3. No one has an answer. While there are some quite knowledgeable members on the list, sometimes we just don't know.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY


I will publically and shamefully admit, I'm one of them complainers haha.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

LOL yes, sometimes you just can't win. I've had quite a few complaints from
members who received no replies at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY


How about 'next heading'?

Quite a few people ask questions on lists such as this one, and then
complain later when nobody at all answered them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Hi all,

I guess I'll just have to write to Hims. Nowhere in the documentation
does it tell you how to access it when it is on the machine itself.
That is the question I ask. I asked how does one access the blessed
manual when it is on the machine, not on a computer, not as a doc file
but on the machine. I'm sorry to sound so frustrated, but I have to
ask, why be helpful when you're not?

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."










Re: question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Flor Lynch
 

BTW, my mPower32 is the so-called QT (or 'QWERTY') model.

-----Original Message-----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:05 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Hi,

(Sometimes it helps if a question is put a different way, or 'fleshed out',
so as to elicit an answer or better direction towards one!)

Ann: There's an 'archived' version of the manual for 8.5, which seems to be
the latest version, on the www.himsintl.com site; but, unfortunately, it
doesn't work - at least in Internet Explorer! "Windows is searching for a
solution to this problem." (It never finds one, of course.) So there's a
.docx version of it, i.e., the one I just found was for the Braille Sense
Plus QWERTY, different from the .doc file one I have earlier browsed
through. In the .docx version of that, if it is relevant, there are loads of
commands listed at the end of the introductory chapter.

It's more than a tad confusing when you've got at least four different
Braille Sense models each with their Braille and QWERTY versions. (Let alone
the awkwardness of reading all the bits of what might be Help or helpful
sprinkled throughout the manual itself, if you can't do so on the native
machine, for whatever reason.) Good or comprehensive as a manual may be,
though, sooner or later somebody - a user or professional - will find
something that is not there but which,one thinks, ought to be included - at
least for reference.

As a Focus Blue braille display user myself, and still having a BrailleNote
mPower 32 (used nowadays for the Oxford Dictionary addin), I'm interested in
the alternative note-takers and displays braillewise out there, their
features, and how they are set up and what they perform, etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 1:50 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Hi again,

Flor, I am sorry for barking at you. Hmmm, if the manual's in .html,
that might work. I'll play with it some more, but not today. I'll
take a break, and when I'm less frustrated, I'll resume.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Kimsan
 

I will publically and shamefully admit, I'm one of them complainers haha.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

LOL yes, sometimes you just can't win. I've had quite a few complaints from
members who received no replies at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY


How about 'next heading'?

Quite a few people ask questions on lists such as this one, and then
complain later when nobody at all answered them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about the Braille Sense QWERTY

Hi all,

I guess I'll just have to write to Hims. Nowhere in the documentation
does it tell you how to access it when it is on the machine itself.
That is the question I ask. I asked how does one access the blessed
manual when it is on the machine, not on a computer, not as a doc file
but on the machine. I'm sorry to sound so frustrated, but I have to
ask, why be helpful when you're not?

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."






Re: installing linux as a second OS, help please

Carlos
 

For the record, the spelling is Compaq, not Compact. And a model number which is close may or may not use the same key sequence to access the menu, but it cannot be assumed.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


I would, but because of the google link, won't. But type into google, how to access the bootable devices menu on HP compact 657, and, the very first result that will come up is what I posted. although I thought it said s? LOL, must reread it. That's why I'm thinking the instructions should be close enough, because of the model.



Sent from a Braille Sense

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



The link you posted does not directly refer to that model, but you can try the instructions anyway. If that is in fact the correct information, accessing the bootable devices menu does not seem to be as straight forward as it is on newer machines. It says to press Escape immediately after turning on the machine to display the startup menu and then F9 to access the list of bootable devices. At that point, you should be able to use the Arrow keys followed by Enter to select a device.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajmund
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please


It says compact 657.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 21 Aug 2016, at 11:08 am, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:


What is the model number?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please



OK, THIS IS WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE ENDS, WHEN YOU HAVE NO SIGHTED THAT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT. I found out my laptop, and please don't laugh at it's age, probably not the best idea to run secondary operating systems of it, either, but anyway. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443326

Anyone used this particular sort of aged HP, to know what I'm meant to do?







Sent from a Braille Sense



----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:45 am

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please







Do you mean boot older versions of Windows from a flash drive? If that is

what you mean, the answer is not easily. You can read what I recently wrote

about booting Windows from USB devices in this thread.

https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416";p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416

----- Original Message ----- https://techtalk.groups.io/g/main/topic/questions_about_xx_cloan/2488416";p=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2488416From:

"Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:38 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please





And is my aim. I don't want to mess up the booting sequence. Although,
question. Could I do this very same, or similar enough process, with, > say,
older versions of windows?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Just remember that there is a difference between changing the boot
sequence
in the BIOS and accessing the bootable devices menu. The latter is
probably
over all safer and accessing each will not use the same key.
----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
Hi,
Updates. Rebooting, reboots into windows by default, but thanks >> > anyway.
About to find out the BIOS menu key for it.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help please
You then have to boot from the flash drive. To boot using the >>
>> flash
drive,
you either have to change the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the
machine
will boot from USB first or figure out how to access the bootable
devices
menu so you can just select the flash drive directly. The second
option
is
easier, but you have to figure out the key for accessing the >> >> bootable
devices menu for your particular model. Although as Rob says, on
>> >> some
systems the boot sequence may already be configured to boot from >>
>> USB
first
so you can just try rebooting and see if it works.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >> >> please
Don't worry, you've answered it for me. So once this is done, >>
>> > what's
my
next step? Sorry, but I've not really found guides, and this is
>> >> > the
only
way we learn.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help >>
>> > please
I'm not sure what you mean. When you run Rufus, make sure that
"Large FAT32 (Default)"
is selected in the
"File system"
combo box.. Tab and make sure that the
"Create a bootable disk using"
checkbox is checked and then in the next combo box select
"ISO Image"
Now choose the
"Click to select an image"
button to browse for the ISO.
When the ISO image loads, Rufus should select the optimal >> >>
>> settings
by
default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Do I burn it as ISO or DVD?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Yes, move it from the flash drive on to the laptop's hard >>
>> >> >> drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, help
please
Problem... I downloaded the image with the braille sense,
>> >> >> >> > and
put
it
to
a
USB. Should I move it off there, to say, my downloads on
laptop,
and
do
it
that way?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS, >>
>> >> >> > help
please
Do not put the ISO image on the flash drive. Leave it on
your
hard
drive,
load it using Rufus, and then let Rufus write it to the >>
>> >> >> >> flash
drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
>> >> >> >> >> help
please
Hi Carlos,
So, I put the ISO image on the USB, and have Rufus open.
Unfortunately,
this is where knowledge ends. So, I navigated the open
dialog
to
my
image,
the ISO, and pressed enter. What other options am I >>
>> >> >> >> > meant
to
change?
Am
I
good having the ISO on the same stick, into which I'm
burning,
or
would
it
be best if I used a different stick? I have 2 sticks >>
>> >> >> >> > right
here,
so
either
doesn't matter. Any help passing through this one would
>> >> >> >> >> > be
appreciated.
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second OS,
help
please
No, you either have to burn it to a DVD which you can
>> >> >> >> >> >> do
with
the
Windows
built-in ISO burner or you have to write it to a flash
drive
for
which
you
will need third-party software like Rufus.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/
If Rufus does not work, most distributions have
instructions
on
their
page
for writing the image to a flash drive.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second >>
>> >> >> >> >> OS,
help
please
So, once it boots, I will have speech? Wow, pretty >>
>> >> >> >> >> > neat.
OK,
once
it
downloaded, what do I do with the ISO? Do I extract
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it,
then,
presumably,
run some sort of set up?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
>> >> >> >> >> >> > OS,
help
please
Speech is provided by the Linux screen reader Orca.
With
Vinux
and
Sonar,
Orca is automatically enabled by default.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a second
OS,
help
please
Once installed, where would I get speech from?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > second
OS,
help
please
You may initially need sighted assistance since
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> as
when
booting
into
any
other environment, you have to either change the
boot
sequence
in
the
BIOS
or access the bootable devices menu.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi, OK, downloading the ISO from the first >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > link.
While
that's
downloading,
though, question. So while booting, or setting
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up,
will
I
need
sighted,
or
will NVDA still be with me at that point?
Sent from a Braille Sense
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] installing linux as a
second
OS,
help
please
What Linux distribution are you trying to
install?
Not
all
Linux
distros
are accessible and even those that are may not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
immediately
accessible
after installation. Two Linux distros which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> are
guaranteed
to
be
accessible
are Vinux
http://vinuxproject.org/
and Sonar.
http://sonargnulinux.com/
As for installing Linux in a dual boot
configuration,
it
partially
depends
on the distro, but usually you have to boot >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
the
DVD
or
flash
drive
first, then when you choose to actually >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> install
it
on
to
the
hard
drive,
you
will be given the option of setting up a dual
boot
configuration.
----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> From: "Rajmund"
<brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:09 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] installing linux as a >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> second
OS,
help
please
Hi,
So, trying to install linux here. I got as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > far
as
downloading
4.7,
the
entire OS, however, I'm confused as to how I
would
go
about
doing
the
actual process.
http://www.howtogeek.com/214571/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-pc/
Says to: "Boot from that drive and install
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it
on
your
system,
making
sure
you select the option that installs it
alongside
Windows -
don't
tell
it
to wipe your hard drive. It'll automatically
set
up a
Grub2
boot
loader
menu that lets you choose your preferred
operating
system
each
time
you
boot your computer." Well, how would I go >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > about
doing