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Re: flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10

James Bentley
 

I hope it is OK to just jump in right here with my question.
 
I need to know if any one knows if Epson makes a legal size scanner that is based on the V39 that every one seems to like so well.  In other words, I am looking for some thing similar but in a legal size.
 
Thanks,
 
James
 
 
 

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10
 
I have the opticbook scanner 3600. It does not have ten drivers but, it works in compatibility mode  with 8 drivers!  So if you cant find win ten drivers for your scanner  look for win. 8 drivers, they should work with ten if they work with win8. Heather   ----- Original Message -----
From: Mike, B.
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10
 
Hi Fanus,
 
I'm currently using the, Epson Perfection V39 Scanner, & like it much better than the CanoScan LIDE scanners I had been using for years.
Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Fanus
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:13 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10
 
Hello list
It seems that there is no driver for windows10 for my epson 1240U. Can someone recommend a scanner, preferably epson because I got such good milage from my 1240U?
Regards
Fanus
 


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Matt
 

Correct it is much more than just fast food. It just happen to happen with
fast food place.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

The problem is, that like my bank branch, which has no lobby at all, some of
the lobbies close earlier than the drive in. That is what the fight is
about. If there was an alternative, like it or not, then it could be used.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Hi all,

this whole thing smacks of grandstanding. You don't go through a toll booth
on foot if you're by the Threway. You don't walk down the middle of the
street when there are cars going back and forth. This is mere grandstanding
unless the McDonalds wouldn't let him in the regular
door. This is just plain idiocy! It's a misuse of justice and taking
up the time of lawyers and judges who should be spending their time doing
other things.

This is not true advocacy for something which is truly needed. This is self
agrandisement. Fight for APS's, fight for the ratification of the Marakesh
Treaty, fight for better treatment of the blind by medical personnel in
hospitals, not this rot!

Ann P.

Original message:
No more dangerous then crossing the road! No more dangerous than
getting off the bus or any of the other million things we do as a
blind
person!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Gene
 

Only if your income is above the level you would payy taxes on.  A lot of people don't pay taxes on SSDI because thheir income is too low.  It doesn't matter where it comes from.  It depends on how much you have as income, whatever the source.
 
Gene
----- Originl Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Hi all,

If you're on SSDI, you still have to pay taxes.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."



Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Hi all,

If you're on SSDI, you still have to pay taxes.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Ann Parsons <akp@...>
 

Hi all,

Sorry, Carolyn, but I am still of a mind that this is not an issue which deserves national attention, not when people are being denied information, being denied equal voting, denied safe pedrestrian signals and sidewalks, not when cable TV consistently and flagrantly breaks the law. No, this is just a ploy to get his name in lights. Why doesn't he apply to Actor's equity?

This is the kind of thing that negotiation is made for anyway. You don't cause a stink, you talk to the manager calmly and quietly and explain why you want them to open up for you at whatever time, since they have to serve the drive-through. You call ahead, order and pick it up at the front door which is open for you because you're a special case.

Or, you just don't patronize McDonalds after they close their main entrance, or you order a cab and get your stuff. This whole thing is ridiculous.

Ann P.

Original message:

The problem is, that like my bank branch, which has no lobby at all, some
of the lobbies close earlier than the drive in. That is what the fight is
about. If there was an alternative, like it or not, then it could be
used.
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10

heather albright
 

I have the opticbook scanner 3600. It does not have ten drivers but, it works in compatibility mode  with 8 drivers!  So if you cant find win ten drivers for your scanner  look for win. 8 drivers, they should work with ten if they work with win8. Heather   ----- Original Message -----
From: Mike, B.
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10

Hi Fanus,
 
I'm currently using the, Epson Perfection V39 Scanner, & like it much better than the CanoScan LIDE scanners I had been using for years.
Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Fanus
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:13 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10

Hello list
It seems that there is no driver for windows10 for my epson 1240U. Can someone recommend a scanner, preferably epson because I got such good milage from my 1240U?
Regards
Fanus
 


Re: Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Fanus,
 
The list David owns is the Jaws-Users list, which is a totally different list from the JFW list.  You can join by clicking the link below:
 
Or, from his website.
Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Fanus
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit

Hello David
Unfortunately the drivers did not work but I still appreciate your help. Would it be off topic to ask on the jfw list for recommendations for a new scanner  which would work with windows 10, preferably an epson because I got so many years out of this 1240U?
Regards
Fanus
 
 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit
 
You’re welcome. Although I do have a send space account as well as a drop box I figured I have more bandwidth to spare on the web site and since I’m the web master for the lack of a better term. I just put them up there.
 
I take it the drivers didn’t work, well it was worth a try.
 
From: Fanus
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit
 
Hello David
Thank you very much. While the link pointed to the jaws-users program page I had a look there because I actually forgot about that source and I was surprised about the uge nunmber of useful items, so thanks for keeping that up for us.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
 
From: Jeremy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit
 
Yes, I have now surmised you're providing a Dropbox link for some drivers.
Its just that ambiguous posts help no one. Lack of detail or clarity only
serves to make people delete messages then a week later ask the for this
same information with the end result of beginning the duplication of another
50 messages.

I hope at some point people begin to understand no one can read minds, and
he or she should compose a message as if the other person does not know what
is being discussed or has forgotten what is being discussed. It only takes a
few words to provide context with the end result of us all quickly reading
through our email and collecting desired information. Just my 2. 

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Ferrin via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit

Read on further down the conversation. No point re-inventing the wheel.
David Ferrin
df7782@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit


What is this you've posted?

JR


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Ferrin via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 1:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/epson12242.zip
http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/epson14907.zip

I'll leave them up there until tomorrow after 5:00 Eastern time.
David Ferrin
df7782@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Fanus <mailto:buys.fanus@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit

Hello David
Well, It can not harm trying, so can you perhaps do a dropbox or sendspace
link for me to download the drivers?
Regards
Fanus


From: David Ferrin via Groups.io <mailto:df7782@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit

If this helps I have the following:

EPSON GT-S640 F740
EPSON Perfection V37 V370

Now this is a 64 bit system but the drivers are installed in the X86
directory.


From: Fanus <mailto:buys.fanus@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:04 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Epson perfection 1240U driver for windows 10 32 bit

Hello list
I upgraded to win10 just to find that fine reader can not open the twain
driver. Has anyone perhaps found a driver for this scanner. I must now
consider whether to buy a new one or to downgrade back to windows 7. My
scanner is in perfect condition so it would be sad to buy a new one just
because I can not find a win10 driver. I did a google search but I can not
find anything.
Regards
Fanus

David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.











David Ferrin
df7782@...


Re: flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Fanus,
 
I'm currently using the, Epson Perfection V39 Scanner, & like it much better than the CanoScan LIDE scanners I had been using for years.
Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Fanus
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:13 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] flatbed scanner recommendation for windows10

Hello list
It seems that there is no driver for windows10 for my epson 1240U. Can someone recommend a scanner, preferably epson because I got such good milage from my 1240U?
Regards
Fanus
 


quick spam message

Kimsan
 

Hi,

 

Every message I send to the tech talk list, it shows up in my junk folder.  Before it use to show both my emails and mail from the list, but the latter no longer goes to the junk folder, only mine why is this?  Also, I’m aware to check the junk options but mark this item as not junk will move it to the inbox but will not keep my emails from going to the junk folder. Thoughts?


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Pamela Dominguez
 

Card issued from snap? What is snap? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

I am thinking rather that in handling the apartment cards, that with
dealing with payment for that type of card, either they withdraw from your
checking account, credit card or card issued from SNAP.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rob
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Pamela Dominguez <geodom@optonline.net> wrote:
So, soda machines take credit cards now? That’s something I didn’t know.
A lot of apartment complexes now will issue tennants a card. This card is
used to access and pay for laundry and, in some cases, vending machines.
Through some means I don't know of, you put credit on the card and it is
deducted each time you use the machines. I guess somebody sits in an office
in the complex and takes your money or something. I've never lived in that
kind of building.










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Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Pamela Dominguez
 

About twenty years ago, the only ATM George could use at the Chemical bank over here was the one in the back where the drive three was. So, he had to kneel down in order to use it. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)


No, you are totally wrong about this. How did this guy get to this
particular McDonald's in the first place? Did someone drive him there? Or
did he walk along a busy highway or freeway to reach it? What sane human
being, let alone one who is blind, would walk along such a dangerous
thoroughfare late at night just to visit McDonald's unless his objective was
to prove a point? Did he suddenly develop an insatiable craving for a Big
Mac? I don't think so. Like Ann pointed out, this idiot probably knew from
the outset that he would be denied service at the drive-through window and
was thus only interested in garnering publicity for himself. If he has such
a strong case against McDonald's, why hasn't one of the blindness advocacy
groups intervened on his behalf and filed a lawsuit against them?

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Matt
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 8:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Really! He was in no more danger then crossing the street legally! He was
not walking down a freeway! You really have got this all wrong! It is not
like cars is going 80 miles an hour or more thru the drive thru. This is
not a comparison at all! Personally think you are totally wrong on this!
Especially with your comparison!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Hi all,

this whole thing smacks of grandstanding. You don't go through a toll booth
on foot if you're by the Threway. You don't walk down the middle of the
street when there are cars going back and forth. This is mere grandstanding
unless the McDonalds wouldn't let him in the regular
door. This is just plain idiocy! It's a misuse of justice and taking
up the time of lawyers and judges who should be spending their time doing
other things.

This is not true advocacy for something which is truly needed. This is self
agrandisement. Fight for APS's, fight for the ratification of the Marakesh
Treaty, fight for better treatment of the blind by medical personnel in
hospitals, not this rot!

Ann P.

Original message:
No more dangerous then crossing the road! No more dangerous than
getting off the bus or any of the other million things we do as a blind
person!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."












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Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Carolyn Arnold
 

Thank goodness.


Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)


No, my aide helps me with the laundry. She adds monetary value to the laundry card for me so that I can do the laundry in the laundry room of my apartment complex.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

What a terrible situation for you Gerald? What do you do, send laundry out?
If you do, of course, it costs more.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)


My apartment complex uses a plastic laundry card to activate the washers and dryers in the laundry room. But the vending machine that issues and reads these cards is totally inaccessible, and there is no way for a blind tenant like me to determine how much monetary value is left on the card without sighted help. The building manager claims that the company that makes the vending machine does not offer a model that has speech output, so what can he do? The only way that the washing machines could be made blind accessible would be to revert to the old coin-based system that used to be employed. You simply inserted a quarter or two into the slot on the machines's coin box, and boom, it was ready to go. But because this system was so unreliable (coins always got stuck in the slot, or the coin box got filled up quickly or could easily get broken into), the building manager switched to the card-based system, which is fine for sighted tenants, but is totally inaccessible to blind tenants like me. The washers and dryers themselves are also inaccessible because they have flat panel touchpads instead of mechanical controls which cannot be altered in any way with tactile markers since they are the property of the landlord.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Rob
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Pamela Dominguez <geodom@optonline.net> wrote:
So, soda machines take credit cards now? That’s something I didn’t know.
A lot of apartment complexes now will issue tennants a card. This card is used to access and pay for laundry and, in some cases, vending machines.
Through some means I don't know of, you put credit on the card and it is deducted each time you use the machines. I guess somebody sits in an office in the complex and takes your money or something. I've never lived in that kind of building.


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Carolyn Arnold
 

I lost a job one time because of technology, They were going to start a new program, and the company and I tried to find some way something could work, so I ended up taking disability Social Security before I turned 62 and would have had less of it. So, because of lack of accommodation or accessibility I was no longer a tax payer but a Social Security recipient.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 8:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Yes, and when he was trying to get them to make his audit job more accessible, they kept finding ways to get out of it. There were things he could have done himself if they had made the program accessible. Later on, I found a cassette he had recorded of a class he took on teaching the blind how to use the program with jaws. But everybody forgot about that, conveniently, including him. Because there was that one class when they were starting to use the program, and that was the end of that. They were going to start using another program, they said, and from what we heard, that would be less accessible! Good thing it was time for him to retire. They said they weren’t going to hire any more blind auditors. He was the only one of the original batch they hired who actually stuck it out. Pam.

From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. <mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)


Wow, Sis Pam, IRS EXEMPTED from ADA provisions? I'm not surprised. Did not the Supreme Court, Congress and, if memory serves, our Diamond White House enjoy exemptions too for eons? Yes, that which is good for the goose is MOST CERTAINLY NOT GOOD for the gander!



For a country that goes everywhere preaching equality, I'm tickled pink that my country 'tis of thee, the sweet land of liberty, does not know or care about applying rules of equality when it comes to dealing with individuals with disabilities.



Sincerely,

Olusegun

Denver, Colorado


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Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Gerald Levy
 

No, my aide helps me with the laundry. She adds monetary value to the laundry card for me so that I can do the laundry in the laundry room of my apartment complex.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

What a terrible situation for you Gerald? What do you do, send laundry out? If you do, of course, it costs more.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)


My apartment complex uses a plastic laundry card to activate the washers and dryers in the laundry room. But the vending machine that issues and reads these cards is totally inaccessible, and there is no way for a blind tenant like me to determine how much monetary value is left on the card without sighted help. The building manager claims that the company that makes the vending machine does not offer a model that has speech output, so what can he do? The only way that the washing machines could be made blind accessible would be to revert to the old coin-based system that used to be employed. You simply inserted a quarter or two into the slot on the machines's coin box, and boom, it was ready to go. But because this system was so unreliable (coins always got stuck in the slot, or the coin box got filled up quickly or could easily get broken into), the building manager switched to the card-based system, which is fine for sighted tenants, but is totally inaccessible to blind tenants like me. The washers and dryers themselves are also inaccessible because they have flat panel touchpads instead of mechanical controls which cannot be altered in any way with tactile markers since they are the property of the landlord.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Rob
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Pamela Dominguez <geodom@optonline.net> wrote:
So, soda machines take credit cards now? That’s something I didn’t know.
A lot of apartment complexes now will issue tennants a card. This card is used to access and pay for laundry and, in some cases, vending machines.
Through some means I don't know of, you put credit on the card and it is deducted each time you use the machines. I guess somebody sits in an office in the complex and takes your money or something. I've never lived in that kind of building.


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Carolyn Arnold
 

The problem is, that like my bank branch, which has no lobby at all, some
of the lobbies close earlier than the drive in. That is what the fight is
about. If there was an alternative, like it or not, then it could be
used.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Ann Parsons
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was
denied service)

Hi all,

this whole thing smacks of grandstanding. You don't go through a toll
booth on foot if you're by the Threway. You don't walk down the middle
of the street when there are cars going back and forth. This is mere
grandstanding unless the McDonalds wouldn't let him in the regular
door. This is just plain idiocy! It's a misuse of justice and taking
up the time of lawyers and judges who should be spending their time doing
other things.

This is not true advocacy for something which is truly needed. This is
self agrandisement. Fight for APS's, fight for the ratification of the
Marakesh Treaty, fight for better treatment of the blind by medical
personnel in hospitals, not this rot!

Ann P.

Original message:
No more dangerous then crossing the road! No more dangerous than
getting off the bus or any of the other million things we do as a blind
person!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Carolyn Arnold
 

What a terrible situation for you Gerald? What do you do, send laundry out? If you do, of course, it costs more.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)


My apartment complex uses a plastic laundry card to activate the washers and dryers in the laundry room. But the vending machine that issues and reads these cards is totally inaccessible, and there is no way for a blind tenant like me to determine how much monetary value is left on the card without sighted help. The building manager claims that the company that makes the vending machine does not offer a model that has speech output, so what can he do? The only way that the washing machines could be made blind accessible would be to revert to the old coin-based system that used to be employed. You simply inserted a quarter or two into the slot on the machines's coin box, and boom, it was ready to go. But because this system was so unreliable (coins always got stuck in the slot, or the coin box got filled up quickly or could easily get broken into), the building manager switched to the card-based system, which is fine for sighted tenants, but is totally inaccessible to blind tenants like me. The washers and dryers themselves are also inaccessible because they have flat panel touchpads instead of mechanical controls which cannot be altered in any way with tactile markers since they are the property of the landlord.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Rob
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Pamela Dominguez <geodom@optonline.net> wrote:
So, soda machines take credit cards now? That’s something I didn’t know.
A lot of apartment complexes now will issue tennants a card. This card is used to access and pay for laundry and, in some cases, vending machines.
Through some means I don't know of, you put credit on the card and it is deducted each time you use the machines. I guess somebody sits in an office in the complex and takes your money or something. I've never lived in that kind of building.


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Carolyn Arnold
 

The speech sounds most helpful to a greater majority of people, since many blind people have not become proficient with Braille.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 6:02 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Well there is going to be vandalism everywhere. But in today world the technology would allow for other ways then just raised print and braille on vending machines. I would think the first choice would be speech and or screen reader to read a menu on the vending machine. Then speech to tell you what buttons you are pushing and what you are buying. For them that is deaf as well as blind you could have braille on the buttons and possible a braille menu. Or a way to hook a braille display to the vending machine. Of course nothing is perfect! But something is better than nothing at all!

I would like to see my major appliances and vending machines and teller machines and such accessible before my TV . There is lots of things I would put before TV to be accessible to us . To me TV is way down on the list of things.

I want to start off with everyday living things that you almost need. Washer, dryer , stove oven refrigerator, freezer, microwave, coffee pots BBQ grills inside and outside and heat and air and for sure make it where we can get in on the driverless cars as well as robots to do things for us or help us in everyday life chores and such and the list goes on and TV is still way down the list as far as I am concern. I really think we have got the cart way before the horse as TV is becoming more accessible than our everyday life things we need. Why not advocate for the most needed things first then lest look at entertainment. JMO!

BTW: this includes making some kind of exception or modification to the drive thru for places that have them to have a walk up service . This would not be that hard to do this. It is like making our prescription meds accessible to us the pharmacies has been fighting this tooth and nail all the way like pulling their eye tooth. Just no reason that for 1 percent of the population you cannot make prescription meds accessible. We have done proven it can be done fairly easy . JMO!







Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)



So, soda machines take credit cards now? That’s something I didn’t know. But as far as making things accessible: when they built a fancy new transportation hub in Hempstead, (well, it’s not new anymore; this was in the nineties); anyway: they put bus signs on all the posts the busses pull up to. The sign had large engraved print about three inches high, and also braille, telling which bus number was supposed to pull up there. The hoodlems scraped all that braille off, and all the print, too, until it was just a flat surface with a sort-of powdery finish, so you could tell that something had been scraped off. So, it seems that if they were to make all the soda machines accessible, people would come around and break them for us. Pam.



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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:12 PM

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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)



Yeah, once, at the machine at the apartment complex, I hit the button I remember being my favorite candy bar and got some kind of cake thing I really didn't like, but I ate anyways. The other thing to watch out for at times is hitting the sold-out soda and seeing the charge on your card for it. At work I usually just ask for help because there is no way to know if the card swipe went through, and I could try several times and get charged for nothing before the phone notifications start to go off, not knowing I hit that sold out dew a couple times and thought it was just the swiper fussyness.



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Oh yes, tired of playing snack food ruelett for decades

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On Jun 12, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Matt <matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com> > wrote:

I agree they should be all vending machine! I think it is much more
important that the vending machine be accessible to me than a TV is!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>


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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jeremy
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Here's a little more information which presents a glimpse as to what this
guy and his brother might be about:

Last year, Magee's brother Emmett, who is also represented by Beumont
Costales, sued Coca-Cola in Louisiana arguing that all machines should be
accessible to the blind. The case was dismissed in a trial court but is
currently being appealed.

JR

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Matt
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Well on the blind guy that was refused service for coming thru the drive
thru. This is wrong as there should be an exception in the policy! It is
just that plain and simple for a Blind or visual person. Also what happen
to the manager or supervisor that night! Anyone with plain common sense
would have made an exception in this manner! As JJ has said this reaches
much farther than just fast food drive thru! There needs to be acception for
these cases. Also I don't know if their policy has not broken the ADA law on
this . Shouldn't the drive through be accessible as well? They could also
took his order and brought it outside to him. As well. I just see where
there could have been just a little thought put in this just by the manager
or supervisor at that time and would have
prevented all this! So his only
recourse is to sue! Not only for access and on the grounds of discrimination
but hit them where it hurts and that is in the pocket book. I hope that 3 to
6 buck meal they did not sell him now cost them a million bucks . If this
happen I bet they would change their policy and give training to all the
staff! It is sad that we have to take this rout when a little common sense
and caring for your fellow person would have went a long way! I really think
he will have no problem winning this at all! JMO!

BTW: I normally a conservative that is in the middle that leans to the right
on social issues but I have to lean a little more to the left on this!



Blind Bargains podcast #65 (the blind guy who was denied service)
<http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/www.blindbargains.com/audio/bbq065.
mp3>





http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/www.blindbargains.com/audio/bbq065.m
p3







Matt From Florida







Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>













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Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Carolyn Arnold
 

I am thinking rather that in handling the apartment cards, that with dealing with payment for that type of card, either they withdraw from your checking account, credit card or card issued from SNAP.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Pamela Dominguez <geodom@optonline.net> wrote:
So, soda machines take credit cards now? That’s something I didn’t know.
A lot of apartment complexes now will issue tennants a card. This card is used to access and pay for laundry and, in some cases, vending machines.
Through some means I don't know of, you put credit on the card and it is deducted each time you use the machines. I guess somebody sits in an office in the complex and takes your money or something. I've never lived in that kind of building.


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Carolyn Arnold
 

My husband said that he saw something about the incident on TV. He thought it was unfair, since going through the drive in would require less door opening, and might make it easier for the guy who was blind.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

I hope he wins the case. The restaurant will need to argue that it isn’t a reasonable accomodation to make. I’ve been refused food before at a restaurant (because I had a guide dog with me, as I was taking a bus). And there were plenty of witnesses. A pub nearby gave me a free meal when I explained about the incident, and told me I was welcome there at any time, no problem. #

From: Matt <mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Well on the blind guy that was refused service for coming thru the drive thru. This is wrong as there should be an exception in the policy! It is just that plain and simple for a Blind or visual person. Also what happen to the manager or supervisor that night! Anyone with plain common sense would have made an exception in this manner! As JJ has said this reaches much farther than just fast food drive thru! There needs to be acception for these cases. Also I don’t know if their policy has not broken the ADA law on this . Shouldn’t the drive through be accessible as well? They could also took his order and brought it outside to him. As well. I just see where there could have been just a little thought put in this just by the manager or supervisor at that time and would have prevented all this! So his only recourse is to sue! Not only for access and on the grounds of discrimination but hit them where it hurts and that is in the pocket book. I hope that 3 to 6 buck meal they did not sell him now cost them a million bucks . If this happen I bet they would change their policy and give training to all the staff! It is sad that we have to take this rout when a little common sense and caring for your fellow person would have went a long way! I really think he will have no problem winning this at all! JMO!

BTW: I normally a conservative that is in the middle that leans to the right on social issues but I have to lean a little more to the left on this!



Blind Bargains podcast #65 (the blind guy who was denied service) <http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/www.blindbargains.com/audio/bbq065.mp3>



http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/www.blindbargains.com/audio/bbq065.mp3







Matt From Florida







Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>


Re: Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Gerald Levy
 

No, you are totally wrong about this. How did this guy get to this particular McDonald's in the first place? Did someone drive him there? Or did he walk along a busy highway or freeway to reach it? What sane human being, let alone one who is blind, would walk along such a dangerous thoroughfare late at night just to visit McDonald's unless his objective was to prove a point? Did he suddenly develop an insatiable craving for a Big Mac? I don't think so. Like Ann pointed out, this idiot probably knew from the outset that he would be denied service at the drive-through window and was thus only interested in garnering publicity for himself. If he has such a strong case against McDonald's, why hasn't one of the blindness advocacy groups intervened on his behalf and filed a lawsuit against them?

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 8:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied service)

Really! He was in no more danger then crossing the street legally! He was
not walking down a freeway! You really have got this all wrong! It is not
like cars is going 80 miles an hour or more thru the drive thru. This is
not a comparison at all! Personally think you are totally wrong on this!
Especially with your comparison!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 7:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blind bargains podcast#65(Blind guy who was denied
service)

Hi all,

this whole thing smacks of grandstanding. You don't go through a toll booth
on foot if you're by the Threway. You don't walk down the middle of the
street when there are cars going back and forth. This is mere grandstanding
unless the McDonalds wouldn't let him in the regular
door. This is just plain idiocy! It's a misuse of justice and taking
up the time of lawyers and judges who should be spending their time doing
other things.

This is not true advocacy for something which is truly needed. This is self
agrandisement. Fight for APS's, fight for the ratification of the Marakesh
Treaty, fight for better treatment of the blind by medical personnel in
hospitals, not this rot!

Ann P.

Original message:
No more dangerous then crossing the road! No more dangerous than
getting off the bus or any of the other million things we do as a blind
person!


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com
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