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Re: The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Matt
 

No but others I know have . they use the stand made for whatever device they
are using. They say it works very well. Also very fast. That is they say
lots of them on various list including the KNFB Reader list. I personally
don't like reading books with non-human narrators. A few pages yes but books
no. I personally don't use the stand I use it mostly for mail or letters and
reading things off cans and boxes and med bottles and computer screens and
so on . I just don't myself use it to read books.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Mark, have you tried scanning a book with k n f b reader?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Matt
Sent: June-17-16 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Well, there is just so much you can do with OCr. Also they have other type
of OCR product as well. Also the KNFB Reader a lot of people is using that
now . Especially since it is on both IOS and Android platform. 99 bucks sure
is much cheaper than OB or KW is. Then the cost of a Scanner on top of that.
Now KNFB reader not a OB or KW . As these has other features that really has
nothing to do with OCR. I myself was looking at getting OB and some kind of
scanner till abut then KNFB Reader came out and then it was so good it was
waste of money to get OB and scanner . not talking about where I was going
to put the scanner. So I now use the KNFB reader and it does 95 percent or
more of what I would have been scanning. So I think things Like a big old
scanner and paying the outrageous price for OCR might have seen most of it
days. Yes there will be market for such A T products as there will always be
someone who want that A T product and of course government agencies and such
buying it for clients. But as more of us start paying out of the pocket I
think you will see people using alternative products that cost much less and
that are main stream products. JST


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Hi all,

Hmmm, perhaps I am equating updating with strong marketing. I haven't seen
any strong push on the part of FS/VFO for OB. It's not mentioned often and
it's not being brought out as a representative of their product line.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: FW: [win10] Announcing Windows 10 App Essentials NVDA add-on version 16.06.1 #nvdasr #redstone

Lenron
 

I was wondering the same.

On 6/17/16, RJ Sandefur <manbatsandefur@outlook.com> wrote:
How do I get on this windows ten list? RJ


On 6/17/2016 2:34 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

If you are an NVDA user, hope you find the following useful.

Regarding Redstone: getting stable (two preview builds in the span of
three days with MS concentrating on bug squashing). Apart from some
things with universal apps, Redstone is usable by users of current
versions of screen readers.

Regarding Win10 group (and its subgroups): Users of screen readers
declaring support for Windows 10 are always welcome (currently
Narrator, JAWS for Windows, Window-Eyes, NVDA and others), and we’re
actively discussing Anniversary Update topics at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:* win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] *On
Behalf Of *Joseph Lee
*Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 11:28 AM
*To:* win10@win10.groups.io
*Subject:* [win10] Announcing Windows 10 App Essentials NVDA add-on
version 16.06.1 #NVDASR #Redstone

Hi all, mostly NVDA folks:

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App
Essentials add-on 16.06.1. The release notes can be found here:

http://github.com/josephsl/wintenapps/releases/latest

Among other things, this version allows NVDA to announce notifications
from Edge web browser (such as download status (download prompt for
Redstone)), as well as providing workarounds for Redstone version of
Calculator app.

Good luck.

P.S. I believe you should not be left in the dark as to what screen
reader developers are doing in terms of Windows 10 (particularly
Redstone) support, hence this post. For members of the Win10 group:
besides NVDA and Narrator, users of other screen readers that declare
support for Windows 10 are always welcome.

Cheers,

Joseph

--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

Matt
 

Well another question sort of related. How accessible is Google Chrome now for Windows ? Since Google Chrome has flash player more or less embedded in it I was just thinking it might be good just to have it.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Also, the link I posted is using the ShareByLink service so it will only be available for 30 days.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:39 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

No because they are not available for download on any official website.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi, is this installer on the list of software? If it is then I will not need to save the email.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Unzip the archive and run one of the executable files to update Adobe Flash Player.  There are three files.

Flash IE.exe
is for Internet Explorer.
Flash.exe
is for other plug-in based browsers like Firefox.
Flash Flash IE Installer.exe
will update both at the same time.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

What is the purpose of this installer? And how is it used? Just unzip it and it automatically takes care of updates?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Yes, the installers still work.  That's probably because Flash has not changed the location of its updates. 

However, the following should be known:

If you do something unusual, such as update Flash and then run a restore point, the updater may not update Flash any longer until you first manually download and install Flash again.  Evidently, some sorts of changes in the program can cause the updator not to function properly.  If you know that an update is available and the updator doesn't install it, then you may have to install Flash another way before using the updator again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi Carlos,


Will this updater keep updating to every new Flash update?  I would
think that such an old piece of software might not work after a point. 
I believe it was 2 or 3 years since Adobe demanded Ninite remove their
updater from the website.



On 6/17/2016 9:06 AM, Carlos wrote:
> Yes, you can download them here.
> https://iqu.ca/1/?A2D471830C54
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Gerald Levy
>    To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:24 AM
>    Subject: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>
>    Does anyone still have the Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player?  Thanks.
>
>    Gerald
>
>
>   
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: FW: [win10] Announcing Windows 10 App Essentials NVDA add-on version 16.06.1 #nvdasr #redstone

RJ Sandefur <manbatsandefur@...>
 

How do I get on this windows ten list? RJ


On 6/17/2016 2:34 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

If you are an NVDA user, hope you find the following useful.

Regarding Redstone: getting stable (two preview builds in the span of three days with MS concentrating on bug squashing). Apart from some things with universal apps, Redstone is usable by users of current versions of screen readers.

Regarding Win10 group (and its subgroups): Users of screen readers declaring support for Windows 10 are always welcome (currently Narrator, JAWS for Windows, Window-Eyes, NVDA and others), and we’re actively discussing Anniversary Update topics at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:28 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Announcing Windows 10 App Essentials NVDA add-on version 16.06.1 #NVDASR #Redstone

 

Hi all, mostly NVDA folks:

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.06.1. The release notes can be found here:

http://github.com/josephsl/wintenapps/releases/latest

 

Among other things, this version allows NVDA to announce notifications from Edge web browser (such as download status (download prompt for Redstone)), as well as providing workarounds for Redstone version of Calculator app.

 

Good luck.

P.S. I believe you should not be left in the dark as to what screen reader developers are doing in terms of Windows 10 (particularly Redstone) support, hence this post. For members of the Win10 group: besides NVDA and Narrator, users of other screen readers that declare support for Windows 10 are always welcome.

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

Matt
 

Ok, then no reason to keep it.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Also, the link I posted is using the ShareByLink service so it will only be available for 30 days.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:39 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

No because they are not available for download on any official website.

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi, is this installer on the list of software? If it is then I will not need to save the email.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Unzip the archive and run one of the executable files to update Adobe Flash Player.  There are three files.

Flash IE.exe
is for Internet Explorer.
Flash.exe
is for other plug-in based browsers like Firefox.
Flash Flash IE Installer.exe
will update both at the same time.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

What is the purpose of this installer? And how is it used? Just unzip it and it automatically takes care of updates?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Yes, the installers still work.  That's probably because Flash has not changed the location of its updates. 

However, the following should be known:

If you do something unusual, such as update Flash and then run a restore point, the updater may not update Flash any longer until you first manually download and install Flash again.  Evidently, some sorts of changes in the program can cause the updator not to function properly.  If you know that an update is available and the updator doesn't install it, then you may have to install Flash another way before using the updator again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi Carlos,


Will this updater keep updating to every new Flash update?  I would
think that such an old piece of software might not work after a point. 
I believe it was 2 or 3 years since Adobe demanded Ninite remove their
updater from the website.



On 6/17/2016 9:06 AM, Carlos wrote:
> Yes, you can download them here.
> https://iqu.ca/1/?A2D471830C54
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Gerald Levy
>    To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:24 AM
>    Subject: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>
>    Does anyone still have the Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player?  Thanks.
>
>    Gerald
>
>
>   
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Monte Single
 

Mark, have you tried scanning a book with k n f b reader?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Matt
Sent: June-17-16 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Well, there is just so much you can do with OCr. Also they have other type
of OCR product as well. Also the KNFB Reader a lot of people is using that
now . Especially since it is on both IOS and Android platform. 99 bucks sure
is much cheaper than OB or KW is. Then the cost of a Scanner on top of that.
Now KNFB reader not a OB or KW . As these has other features that really has
nothing to do with OCR. I myself was looking at getting OB and some kind of
scanner till abut then KNFB Reader came out and then it was so good it was
waste of money to get OB and scanner . not talking about where I was going
to put the scanner. So I now use the KNFB reader and it does 95 percent or
more of what I would have been scanning. So I think things Like a big old
scanner and paying the outrageous price for OCR might have seen most of it
days. Yes there will be market for such A T products as there will always be
someone who want that A T product and of course government agencies and such
buying it for clients. But as more of us start paying out of the pocket I
think you will see people using alternative products that cost much less and
that are main stream products. JST


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Hi all,

Hmmm, perhaps I am equating updating with strong marketing. I haven't seen
any strong push on the part of FS/VFO for OB. It's not mentioned often and
it's not being brought out as a representative of their product line.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

Carlos
 

Also, the link I posted is using the ShareByLink service so it will only be available for 30 days.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

No because they are not available for download on any official website.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

Hi, is this installer on the list of software? If it is then I will not need to save the email.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Unzip the archive and run one of the executable files to update Adobe Flash Player.  There are three files.

Flash IE.exe
is for Internet Explorer.
Flash.exe
is for other plug-in based browsers like Firefox.
Flash Flash IE Installer.exe
will update both at the same time.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

What is the purpose of this installer? And how is it used? Just unzip it and it automatically takes care of updates?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Yes, the installers still work.  That's probably because Flash has not changed the location of its updates. 

However, the following should be known:

If you do something unusual, such as update Flash and then run a restore point, the updater may not update Flash any longer until you first manually download and install Flash again.  Evidently, some sorts of changes in the program can cause the updator not to function properly.  If you know that an update is available and the updator doesn't install it, then you may have to install Flash another way before using the updator again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi Carlos,


Will this updater keep updating to every new Flash update?  I would
think that such an old piece of software might not work after a point. 
I believe it was 2 or 3 years since Adobe demanded Ninite remove their
updater from the website.



On 6/17/2016 9:06 AM, Carlos wrote:
> Yes, you can download them here.
> https://iqu.ca/1/?A2D471830C54
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Gerald Levy
>    To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:24 AM
>    Subject: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>
>    Does anyone still have the Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player?  Thanks.
>
>    Gerald
>
>
>   
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

Carlos
 

No because they are not available for download on any official website.

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

Hi, is this installer on the list of software? If it is then I will not need to save the email.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Unzip the archive and run one of the executable files to update Adobe Flash Player.  There are three files.

Flash IE.exe
is for Internet Explorer.
Flash.exe
is for other plug-in based browsers like Firefox.
Flash Flash IE Installer.exe
will update both at the same time.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

What is the purpose of this installer? And how is it used? Just unzip it and it automatically takes care of updates?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Yes, the installers still work.  That's probably because Flash has not changed the location of its updates. 

However, the following should be known:

If you do something unusual, such as update Flash and then run a restore point, the updater may not update Flash any longer until you first manually download and install Flash again.  Evidently, some sorts of changes in the program can cause the updator not to function properly.  If you know that an update is available and the updator doesn't install it, then you may have to install Flash another way before using the updator again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi Carlos,


Will this updater keep updating to every new Flash update?  I would
think that such an old piece of software might not work after a point. 
I believe it was 2 or 3 years since Adobe demanded Ninite remove their
updater from the website.



On 6/17/2016 9:06 AM, Carlos wrote:
> Yes, you can download them here.
> https://iqu.ca/1/?A2D471830C54
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Gerald Levy
>    To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:24 AM
>    Subject: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>
>    Does anyone still have the Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player?  Thanks.
>
>    Gerald
>
>
>   
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: The Future of the Screen Reader Market

lance allison
 

God I hope not Josh is only more prevalent because of how schools in vocab services hand out jobs like cookies never cared for Jaws since 93 I've always used windows I hope it sticks around some more


On Tue, Jun 14, 2016, 2:42 PM Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@...> wrote:
 
Now that VFO, the owner of Freedom Scientific, which sells JAWS, has officially acquired AI Squared, which sells Window Eyes, what are the implications for the future of the commercial screen reader market.  Will FS and AI Squared be consolidated into a single company, in which case either JAWS or Window Eyes is likely to be phased out to eliminate product redundancy?  My guess is that JAWS will ultimately emerge as the survivor because it has a larger market share than Window Eyes.  But as history has show, such mergers usually lead to higher prices because of reduced competition.  Let’s hope not.
 
Gerald
 
 


Re: Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

Matt
 

Hi, is this installer on the list of software? If it is then I will not need to save the email.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Unzip the archive and run one of the executable files to update Adobe Flash Player.  There are three files.

Flash IE.exe
is for Internet Explorer.
Flash.exe
is for other plug-in based browsers like Firefox.
Flash Flash IE Installer.exe
will update both at the same time.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:28 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

What is the purpose of this installer? And how is it used? Just unzip it and it automatically takes care of updates?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Yes, the installers still work.  That's probably because Flash has not changed the location of its updates. 

However, the following should be known:

If you do something unusual, such as update Flash and then run a restore point, the updater may not update Flash any longer until you first manually download and install Flash again.  Evidently, some sorts of changes in the program can cause the updator not to function properly.  If you know that an update is available and the updator doesn't install it, then you may have to install Flash another way before using the updator again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi Carlos,


Will this updater keep updating to every new Flash update?  I would
think that such an old piece of software might not work after a point. 
I believe it was 2 or 3 years since Adobe demanded Ninite remove their
updater from the website.



On 6/17/2016 9:06 AM, Carlos wrote:
> Yes, you can download them here.
> https://iqu.ca/1/?A2D471830C54
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Gerald Levy
>    To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:24 AM
>    Subject: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>
>    Does anyone still have the Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player?  Thanks.
>
>    Gerald
>
>
>   
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Matt
 

Well, there is just so much you can do with OCr. Also they have other type
of OCR product as well. Also the KNFB Reader a lot of people is using that
now . Especially since it is on both IOS and Android platform. 99 bucks sure
is much cheaper than OB or KW is. Then the cost of a Scanner on top of that.
Now KNFB reader not a OB or KW . As these has other features that really has
nothing to do with OCR. I myself was looking at getting OB and some kind of
scanner till abut then KNFB Reader came out and then it was so good it was
waste of money to get OB and scanner . not talking about where I was going
to put the scanner. So I now use the KNFB reader and it does 95 percent or
more of what I would have been scanning. So I think things Like a big old
scanner and paying the outrageous price for OCR might have seen most of it
days. Yes there will be market for such A T products as there will always be
someone who want that A T product and of course government agencies and such
buying it for clients. But as more of us start paying out of the pocket I
think you will see people using alternative products that cost much less and
that are main stream products. JST


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann Parsons
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Hi all,

Hmmm, perhaps I am equating updating with strong marketing. I haven't seen
any strong push on the part of FS/VFO for OB. It's not mentioned often and
it's not being brought out as a representative of their product line.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
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Re: The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Flor Lynch
 

Yes. Gene. Kurzweil 1000 has been updated less frequently in the last five or six years, than before. I think the last upgrade was last year, from version 13 to version 14. An upgrade now seems to happen every two or three years, whereas in earlier times one happened every year.
 
(There are periodic patch updates, if a serious bug has been spotted, and if there’ve been enough other suggestions/improvements to warrant one. It’s now up to version 14.05.)
 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market
I suspect that OpenBook isn't being nearly as aggressively promoted as it was years ago.  But I don't have anything to base that on, it's just an impression.  I don't see much about it these days.  But by the same token, I don't see Kurzweil discussed much.  That program used to be updated a lot.  Has that schedule slowed significantly?  If so, it would support my supposition that things aren't changing dramatically in OCR and a much slower update cycle is currently being followed regarding at least the blindness versions of such programs. 
 
I think that dramatic improvements are coming in OCR.  I'm not sure when.  But I think the current technology is mature and the next revolution isn't here yet.  That is my impression, given the little I've read about programs that teach themselves being a revolutionary change that hasn't arrived yet.  the consequences of programs that can learn and compare performance over time and continue to learn from errors is revolutionary.  Increasingly, AI researchers are finding that programs that can teach them selves are better at doing certain things than if there are completely programmed.  People learn by comparing their performance over time.  This would be much more like human learning in important ways.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market
 
Hi all,

Hmmm, perhaps I am equating updating with strong marketing.  I haven't
seen any strong push on the part of FS/VFO for OB.  It's not mentioned
often and it's not being brought out as a representative of their product line.

Ann P.

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Re: The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Gene
 

I suspect that OpenBook isn't being nearly as aggressively promoted as it was years ago.  But I don't have anything to base that on, it's just an impression.  I don't see much about it these days.  But by the same token, I don't see Kurzweil discussed much.  That program used to be updated a lot.  Has that schedule slowed significantly?  If so, it would support my supposition that things aren't changing dramatically in OCR and a much slower update cycle is currently being followed regarding at least the blindness versions of such programs. 
 
I think that dramatic improvements are coming in OCR.  I'm not sure when.  But I think the current technology is mature and the next revolution isn't here yet.  That is my impression, given the little I've read about programs that teach themselves being a revolutionary change that hasn't arrived yet.  the consequences of programs that can learn and compare performance over time and continue to learn from errors is revolutionary.  Increasingly, AI researchers are finding that programs that can teach them selves are better at doing certain things than if there are completely programmed.  People learn by comparing their performance over time.  This would be much more like human learning in important ways.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Hi all,

Hmmm, perhaps I am equating updating with strong marketing.  I haven't
seen any strong push on the part of FS/VFO for OB.  It's not mentioned
often and it's not being brought out as a representative of their product line.

Ann P.

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Re: The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
I haven't seen any of their marketing materials of late but can say it's certainly been mentioned in their twitter feed, on their phone system messages and has place on their official site. It would seem that it's definitely on their radar to some degree if they went to the trouble to even bother updating its authorization scheme to that of its other offerings. As for what the future holds who knows.
Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The Future of the Screen Reader Market

Hi all,

Hmmm, perhaps I am equating updating with strong marketing. I haven't
seen any strong push on the part of FS/VFO for OB. It's not mentioned
often and it's not being brought out as a representative of their product line.

Ann P.

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Re: Win10_PE download url please

Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
 

Hi Carlos

 

Many thanks, am downloading them now.

 

Regards

Adrien

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 17 June 2016 14:00
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10_PE download url please

 

Hi Adrien,

 

The link to the download page is below.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:58 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10_PE download url please

 

Hi Carlos

 

I searched my saved e-mails, can you please send me the url for downloading the windows 10 pe files, I cannot find the url. Thanks.

 

Regards

Adrien


Re: IPhone Inquiry

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Hi

Yes she can use cellular data for dictation. It is not necessary to run the latest software but probably best to for improved security and stability as well as fix any bugs present in her current software.

On 16 Jun 2016, at 22:50, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Chris,


So you must be connected to the Internet. I am not sure if the person
teaching me is actually connected. She has the phone in a network to
make outgoing calls. I would think you could connect to the Internet in
that mode. She insists she hasn't been able to get the dictation to
work using that button next to the space bar in edit fields. She does
not have the latest IPhone 6 software. Is the latest software necessary
for this feature?



On 6/16/2016 2:21 PM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
Use dictation. It works everywhere providing you have an active internet connection. The only place it doesn’t work, for good reasons I must say, is in passwords.

On 16 Jun 2016, at 19:07, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Group,


Well, I am taking the plunge and getting training in use of the IPhone. So far it's going reasonably well. I'm learning basic navigation and how to work using voice commands with Siri.


I have one question. Has anyone figured out how to enter contacts into yhour e-mail client or phone numbers into your contacts list in an easier method than the problematic keyboard that appears when you get past the add contact icon?


The person instructing is not an absolute expert in instruction in use of the IPhone for the visually impaired, and she does not have the latest software updates. Maybe there's an AP that helps with this?


If I am able to figure out a relatively easy way of adding contacts as well as favorites for browsing, I will probably be a decent user of the IPhone.



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Unable to input numbers in Skype

Rob <captinlogic@...>
 

Today Skype updated itself. When in a call, and I click the show dial pad button, I hear touch tones when I press numbers, but the phone system I'm attempting to call says unable to recognize input. What's happening here?


FW: [win10] Announcing Windows 10 App Essentials NVDA add-on version 16.06.1 #nvdasr #redstone

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi all,

If you are an NVDA user, hope you find the following useful.

Regarding Redstone: getting stable (two preview builds in the span of three days with MS concentrating on bug squashing). Apart from some things with universal apps, Redstone is usable by users of current versions of screen readers.

Regarding Win10 group (and its subgroups): Users of screen readers declaring support for Windows 10 are always welcome (currently Narrator, JAWS for Windows, Window-Eyes, NVDA and others), and we’re actively discussing Anniversary Update topics at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:28 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Announcing Windows 10 App Essentials NVDA add-on version 16.06.1 #NVDASR #Redstone

 

Hi all, mostly NVDA folks:

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.06.1. The release notes can be found here:

http://github.com/josephsl/wintenapps/releases/latest

 

Among other things, this version allows NVDA to announce notifications from Edge web browser (such as download status (download prompt for Redstone)), as well as providing workarounds for Redstone version of Calculator app.

 

Good luck.

P.S. I believe you should not be left in the dark as to what screen reader developers are doing in terms of Windows 10 (particularly Redstone) support, hence this post. For members of the Win10 group: besides NVDA and Narrator, users of other screen readers that declare support for Windows 10 are always welcome.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

Carlos
 

Unzip the archive and run one of the executable files to update Adobe Flash Player.  There are three files.
Flash IE.exe
is for Internet Explorer.
Flash.exe
is for other plug-in based browsers like Firefox.
Flash Flash IE Installer.exe
will update both at the same time.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

What is the purpose of this installer? And how is it used? Just unzip it and it automatically takes care of updates?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Yes, the installers still work.  That's probably because Flash has not changed the location of its updates. 

However, the following should be known:

If you do something unusual, such as update Flash and then run a restore point, the updater may not update Flash any longer until you first manually download and install Flash again.  Evidently, some sorts of changes in the program can cause the updator not to function properly.  If you know that an update is available and the updator doesn't install it, then you may have to install Flash another way before using the updator again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi Carlos,


Will this updater keep updating to every new Flash update?  I would
think that such an old piece of software might not work after a point. 
I believe it was 2 or 3 years since Adobe demanded Ninite remove their
updater from the website.



On 6/17/2016 9:06 AM, Carlos wrote:
> Yes, you can download them here.
> https://iqu.ca/1/?A2D471830C54
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Gerald Levy
>    To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:24 AM
>    Subject: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>
>    Does anyone still have the Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player?  Thanks.
>
>    Gerald
>
>
>   
>

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Re: Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

TerriLynne Pomeroy <tl1@...>
 

What is the purpose of this installer? And how is it used? Just unzip it and it automatically takes care of updates?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Yes, the installers still work.  That's probably because Flash has not changed the location of its updates. 

However, the following should be known:

If you do something unusual, such as update Flash and then run a restore point, the updater may not update Flash any longer until you first manually download and install Flash again.  Evidently, some sorts of changes in the program can cause the updator not to function properly.  If you know that an update is available and the updator doesn't install it, then you may have to install Flash another way before using the updator again.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player

 

Hi Carlos,


Will this updater keep updating to every new Flash update?  I would
think that such an old piece of software might not work after a point. 
I believe it was 2 or 3 years since Adobe demanded Ninite remove their
updater from the website.



On 6/17/2016 9:06 AM, Carlos wrote:
> Yes, you can download them here.
> https://iqu.ca/1/?A2D471830C54
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Gerald Levy
>    To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>    Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:24 AM
>    Subject: [TechTalk] Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player
>
>
>
>    Does anyone still have the Ninite Installer for Adobe Flash Player?  Thanks.
>
>    Gerald
>
>
>   
>

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