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Re: New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Gene
 

My point is that the issue of eating around a computer shouldn't be a consideration in buying a laptop. I'm not engaging in a God complex. I'm saying that there are just certain things people should and shouldn't do. On the shouldn't do list is eating or drinking near a computer. One item on the do list is to back up any files you don't want to lose. these things are discussed and emphasized from time to time because of their importance.

I also specifically said I wasn't singling anyone out in my remarks to avoid the perception that I was specifically criticizing you. Over the years, I've heard stories of the damage done by people spilling things into computers.

And no, I never eat or drink near my computer. I'm stating that because you brought it up, not to boast. I wouldn't have brought it up at all except you said that you believe I've done so. I have lots of faults, but that isn't one.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

yes Gene, that's true, however I'm sure many of us have done it, I'm guessing even you at some point in their lives. I was simply stating a drawback of the laptop as one unit, no need to dole out the God complex. I'm sure we all feel stupid when it happens without getting that extra little boost.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December 28, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I consider the consideration about spilling things to be inapplicable. I'm not saying this to give any one person a hard time, but there are just certain things you don't do and one of them is eat or drink around a computer. In my opinion, that's just negligent behavior.

As far as laptop versus desktop is concerned, I don't know how much the ssmall desktops weigh so I can't comment on that. I will say that I used to use desktops and purchase them. But I want the option to use a computer portably and conveniently in different rooms. It may still be that laptops don't last as long in general as desktops, but I'll pay to replace a laptop more often because I consider it perhaps even more expensive to have a laptop that I would seldom use outside of my home and a separate desktop that I would use most of the time at home.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I have a couple of lap tops but I only have them because I require portability sometimes. If I was planning to use my computer at home all the time, in one place, I would never choose a lap top over a desk top computer.
Consider the following.

One can now buy desktop computers that are both tiny and powerful. You can get computers that are All-in-one, which means all the goodies, except for the keyboard are built in to the unit, similar to the way apple does it with the iMac..
If you are using your laptop with it's built-in keyboard and you spill something such as a coffee or any other liquid in to it, you risk ruining the entire device. If you do this to an external keyboard, you just say "oh rats" toss the keyboard out and plug another one in.
I spilled an entire cup of hot chocolate in to my X Wifes laptop many years ago, and although it wasn't the cause of our eventual divorce, it sure earned me a trip to the dog house. 😀

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 27, 2020 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I would not get a laptop, if I had to use another keyboard, don't have one for my iPhone, wouldn't have one for it. That just makes for too clumsy maneuvering in my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Hi,
May I ask you why you say you don't like Laptop keyboards? I've never used a Laptop before, and I don't know very much about them, so if you would please shed some light on the factors of Laptop keyboards, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Catherine Clegg
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I hate laptop keyboards so I always buy an external one
On Dec 26, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi Marie,
Don't let it intimidate me, laughing, so you made my day! I was
pretty close to letting it intimidate me! Laughing! I can't stand
the keyboard though, so I haven't even turned it on. As far as the
MS, I think that was a 6 month trial though, but I don't want MS, but
I'm just not for sure if I will need MS or not, but I'll see. I will
see what I can find at Best Buy Monday when I take back the Laptop I just bought.
Thank you so much!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet,
Power the laptop up and wait a minute for the booth process to begin.
Then press the ctrl Plus Windows key plus enter and soon Narrator will
begin talking.
I am quite sure that Windows 10 is on the machine and if you take your
time and listen to the prompts, you can get it set up. Many of us have
done it before you.
I also believe that the Office suite is a thirty day trial unless you
paid extra to have the package.
The important thing is not to let it intimidate you. LOL!


-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

HI Marten,
Thank you for this, but I don't even know if Windows 10 is already
installed, although, I don't think so. The person who helped me
online with this, said Windows is already installed. I don't know the
Lenovo key on the keyboard in which I think I might need. I don't
know the product key number either. LOL! I don't know if Narrator
will walk me through all the steps or not though. I don't know if
this was a good idea buying this Laptop either. Thank you anyway. I
greatly appreciate it.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet" ,

You can cturn on Narrator with ctrl-win-enter, but I am not sure with
wat screen the Lenovo will start.

You can try to start the laptop and after a while press this shortkey.

It can also be, that the laptop will ask to install windows and in
this case I am not sure if Narrator is working.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:59:39 +0000 "Janet"
<janet.harvard@outlook.com>
wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Well, I thought I wasn't going to receive my new Lenovo IdeaPad until
Jan 06-2021, but I just received it, and I don't know what to do with
it now!
LOL! I do know it might take me sometime to learn the keys, as some
of them are long and some of them are wide, and the keys are a little
larger than what I am used to. The keys are also close to each
other. Any suggestions how to get started with this, meaning I need
some speech, or there isn't any point in me even turning it on! LOL!
Someone mentioned to turn on Narrator, but I don't remember how to
turn it on.

Janet

Peace Be With You.

























Re: Lenovo Laptops.

chris judge
 

I find much about the typical laptop keyboard annoying. Even that FN key between the left control key and the windows can be annoying, especially if you are one who switches between a laptop and desktop on a regular basis, as I do. Also, many laptop keyboards have little or know space between f4 and f5, and f8 and f9.
Many have their arrow keys all clumped together.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 28, 2020 2:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

I hated the original Lenovo keyboard. I can't remember why, but it had something to do with Control, Alt, or Ppplication - something was way different about that configuration. I generally buy a Logitech keyboard for $15.00. In a year's time, the lettersare worn off. I haven't replaced in a while. My husband can't see the letters, but it really goes now, well broken in. The spacebar is slick from my thumb, but I have worn it good and limber. For a while, I used an old Dell on it until I wore its letters, but we had to have an adapter connection for that one.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Carolyn,
It sounds like you got a pretty good deal. I do think Lenovo's rather Laptops or Desktops have good products though. It is just this keyboard I can't work with at all. Are the keys on your pc long, short, very long, and all different shapes?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Janet, I got my Lenovo desktop for something like $450, could have been $449.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene,
Yes, I do find this very useful. I was wondering if all or most Laptops have pretty much the same keyboard layout. I will have to give this some serious thought now. I don't know if I could get used to the keyboard on this Lenovo, but maybe if I tried a little more, but it is completely different from any other keyboard I've ever used, but then again, I've always used desktops, and that is what I'm used to. So, I either buy a desktop, or try to get used to Laptop keyboards. I do definitely want a Laptop though. So this gives me something to think about. I will keep the comments from this email though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

These comments are long, but you may find them useful and if they encourage further discussion, you may find that useful as well.

The following comments may help you approach deciding what laptop to buy or such questions as whether you want to use an external keyboard. I haven't used a variety of laptops. My comments are intended to stir helpful discussion. While I have given you my impression regarding laptop keyboards, they are my impression and are not based on looking at a variety.

You might consider Computers For the Blind, as I said, if money is tight. I believe you use a computer for typical things, browsing, e-mail, streaming music. If money isn't tight or you just want a better computer, you may not want to. But 150 dollars for a refurbished laptop that is already configured, not that you couldn't do it yourself, a free year of JAWS, which may or may not matter if you already have JAWS, and NVDA included may make more sense. I haven't gotten a machine from them, but I've heard good things from those who have.

If you ask here, you may get comments from a number of people about whether the machines satisfy users, have good keyboards, and other ;possible questions you have. There is a real difference between five hundred dollars and 150 dollars.

Regarding keyboards, I'm not sure what choices you have on laptops. My laptop has square keys that are much larger than the keys on a mechanical external keyboard. The feel of depression is different as well. The question of keyboards would be something to discuss here. I hope others comment on such questions as:
Can you find mechanical or small key keyboards in laptops? Are you willing to use an external keyboard? My guess is that you are used to external mechanical keyboards, not membrane keyboards. Although I haven't looked into this, my guess is that most perhaps almost all laptop keyboards are membrane and membrane keyboards have a different tension and feel than a mechanical keyboard.

As far as keys being of different shapes, I'm not sure what you are referring to but laptop keyboards often have keys like home and end in different places than external keyboards. They are often differently shaped from the letter and number keys as well.
Once I got used to where the home and end keys are on my keyboard, I don't object to them and find them as easy to use as the traditional home and end keys. It may be just a case of you getting used to a laptop computer keyboard. That may be easier for some people than for others.

If you use your computer mainly at home, you may want to get a mechanical external keyboard if that is what you are used to, and it probably is.

Many people use a laptop computer for mostly home use.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed, but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM, with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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Re: thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

chris judge
 

Sir Monte, for sure. If one spends as much time behind their keyboards as it appears most of us do, it is unrealistic to expect that one wouldn’t want to enjoy a beverage. I too practice safe habits around my computer most of the time. The incident I discussed in the earlier post was actually quite a little experience and totally careless of me. I was sitting on the sofa, it was around Christmas time. Kim wanted to use the desktop computer so I grabbed her laptop, which she hadn’t used in six months, and fired it up. Now this was way, way back in 2008. We’re talking a Soni Vio with 512 meg of ram running good old xp.

So while the computer was taking it’s customary 20 minutes to boot up, I, being that it was Christmas and all, decided that a hot chocolate, laced with a hearty dollop of some spirit, for the life of me I can’t recall what it was, but spirit all the same, was in order.

 

Now, beverage all prepared, I sat down and took this clunky, and I mean, clunky, Soni Vio on to my lap. I then proceeded to reach with my left hand, which is not my good one, lift the mug of lovely liquid to my lips, took a healthy gulp, then proceeded to bump my elbow on the cat who had snuggled up against me on my left without my notice. Needless to say I sloshed most of the contents all over the lovely vios keyboard. Jaws went wild and the thing shut down.

 

Kim wasn’t all that mad, well, at first she was a bit put out until I explained that, even though it was a $2000 laptop when it was purchased, several years, as well as technological advancements, helped it to depreciate in value almost as much as the cup of hot chocolate did.

I

Bought her a little netbook running windows 7 and she was just as happy as a little kid in a candy store.

 

So yes, always put beverages in a safe container while working around our tech toys. To do anything else would be negligent.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: December 28, 2020 12:10 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

 

Hi List,

 

I use my computer just about any time of day or night.

Space is not a problem so I have a good sized u-shaped  workstation.

Quite often, I may be having a snack or a beverage while I use my pc.

Several years ago I started using those stainless types thermos containers like the one you get in a 2 pack at Costco.  These are the ones with the twist off tops.  They keepp hot  things hot and cold things cold. 

These containers are about 12-14  ozs.  They have little push buttons on the side of the tops.

So when youwant a drink, you just tip the top of the container to your lips and press the side button;  and drink your beverage of choice.

I mention these containers because they are spill proof and unbreakable.More than once, I have knocked one over, on my keyboard, on the floor, on the desk.

No worries,  nothingspills, nothing breaks.

 

I am not encouraging  people to have bad habits while using technology,

I’m just showing that   you can have  beverages, hot or cold,  in  your home/office space and not have to worry about spills.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte


Re: New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

chris judge
 

yes Gene, that's true, however I'm sure many of us have done it, I'm guessing even you at some point in their lives. I was simply stating a drawback of the laptop as one unit, no need to dole out the God complex. I'm sure we all feel stupid when it happens without getting that extra little boost.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December 28, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I consider the consideration about spilling things to be inapplicable. I'm not saying this to give any one person a hard time, but there are just certain things you don't do and one of them is eat or drink around a computer. In my opinion, that's just negligent behavior.

As far as laptop versus desktop is concerned, I don't know how much the ssmall desktops weigh so I can't comment on that. I will say that I used to use desktops and purchase them. But I want the option to use a computer portably and conveniently in different rooms. It may still be that laptops don't last as long in general as desktops, but I'll pay to replace a laptop more often because I consider it perhaps even more expensive to have a laptop that I would seldom use outside of my home and a separate desktop that I would use most of the time at home.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I have a couple of lap tops but I only have them because I require portability sometimes. If I was planning to use my computer at home all the time, in one place, I would never choose a lap top over a desk top computer.
Consider the following.

One can now buy desktop computers that are both tiny and powerful. You can get computers that are All-in-one, which means all the goodies, except for the keyboard are built in to the unit, similar to the way apple does it with the iMac..
If you are using your laptop with it's built-in keyboard and you spill something such as a coffee or any other liquid in to it, you risk ruining the entire device. If you do this to an external keyboard, you just say "oh rats" toss the keyboard out and plug another one in.
I spilled an entire cup of hot chocolate in to my X Wifes laptop many years ago, and although it wasn't the cause of our eventual divorce, it sure earned me a trip to the dog house. 😀

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 27, 2020 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I would not get a laptop, if I had to use another keyboard, don't have one for my iPhone, wouldn't have one for it. That just makes for too clumsy maneuvering in my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Hi,
May I ask you why you say you don't like Laptop keyboards? I've never used a Laptop before, and I don't know very much about them, so if you would please shed some light on the factors of Laptop keyboards, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Catherine Clegg
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I hate laptop keyboards so I always buy an external one
On Dec 26, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi Marie,
Don't let it intimidate me, laughing, so you made my day! I was
pretty close to letting it intimidate me! Laughing! I can't stand
the keyboard though, so I haven't even turned it on. As far as the
MS, I think that was a 6 month trial though, but I don't want MS, but
I'm just not for sure if I will need MS or not, but I'll see. I will
see what I can find at Best Buy Monday when I take back the Laptop I just bought.
Thank you so much!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet,
Power the laptop up and wait a minute for the booth process to begin.
Then press the ctrl Plus Windows key plus enter and soon Narrator will
begin talking.
I am quite sure that Windows 10 is on the machine and if you take your
time and listen to the prompts, you can get it set up. Many of us have
done it before you.
I also believe that the Office suite is a thirty day trial unless you
paid extra to have the package.
The important thing is not to let it intimidate you. LOL!


-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

HI Marten,
Thank you for this, but I don't even know if Windows 10 is already
installed, although, I don't think so. The person who helped me
online with this, said Windows is already installed. I don't know the
Lenovo key on the keyboard in which I think I might need. I don't
know the product key number either. LOL! I don't know if Narrator
will walk me through all the steps or not though. I don't know if
this was a good idea buying this Laptop either. Thank you anyway. I
greatly appreciate it.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet" ,

You can cturn on Narrator with ctrl-win-enter, but I am not sure with
wat screen the Lenovo will start.

You can try to start the laptop and after a while press this shortkey.

It can also be, that the laptop will ask to install windows and in
this case I am not sure if Narrator is working.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:59:39 +0000 "Janet"
<janet.harvard@outlook.com>
wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Well, I thought I wasn't going to receive my new Lenovo IdeaPad until
Jan 06-2021, but I just received it, and I don't know what to do with
it now!
LOL! I do know it might take me sometime to learn the keys, as some
of them are long and some of them are wide, and the keys are a little
larger than what I am used to. The keys are also close to each
other. Any suggestions how to get started with this, meaning I need
some speech, or there isn't any point in me even turning it on! LOL!
Someone mentioned to turn on Narrator, but I don't remember how to
turn it on.

Janet

Peace Be With You.

























Re: Website Question

Carolyn Arnold
 

I downloaded the King James Version from BARD.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:15 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Website Question

Hi Group:


I was wondering if anyone knows of a good place that's accessible to find books of the Bible? I'm doing a class and would like to find a website with the books of the Bible where I can go to the site and pick which took I want to read and I would be able to find the chapters easily. I'm looking for a Catholic Bible. If no one knows, I perfectly understand. Thanks in advance.

Shelly


Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Carolyn Arnold
 

I hated the original Lenovo keyboard. I can't remember why, but it had something to do with Control, Alt, or Ppplication - something was way different about that configuration. I generally buy a Logitech keyboard for $15.00. In a year's time, the lettersare worn off. I haven't replaced in a while. My husband can't see the letters, but it really goes now, well broken in. The spacebar is slick from my thumb, but I have worn it good and limber. For a while, I used an old Dell on it until I wore its letters, but we had to have an adapter connection for that one.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Carolyn,
It sounds like you got a pretty good deal. I do think Lenovo's rather Laptops or Desktops have good products though. It is just this keyboard I can't work with at all. Are the keys on your pc long, short, very long, and all different shapes?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Janet, I got my Lenovo desktop for something like $450, could have been $449.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene,
Yes, I do find this very useful. I was wondering if all or most Laptops have pretty much the same keyboard layout. I will have to give this some serious thought now. I don't know if I could get used to the keyboard on this Lenovo, but maybe if I tried a little more, but it is completely different from any other keyboard I've ever used, but then again, I've always used desktops, and that is what I'm used to. So, I either buy a desktop, or try to get used to Laptop keyboards. I do definitely want a Laptop though. So this gives me something to think about. I will keep the comments from this email though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

These comments are long, but you may find them useful and if they encourage further discussion, you may find that useful as well.

The following comments may help you approach deciding what laptop to buy or such questions as whether you want to use an external keyboard. I haven't used a variety of laptops. My comments are intended to stir helpful discussion. While I have given you my impression regarding laptop keyboards, they are my impression and are not based on looking at a variety.

You might consider Computers For the Blind, as I said, if money is tight. I believe you use a computer for typical things, browsing, e-mail, streaming music. If money isn't tight or you just want a better computer, you may not want to. But 150 dollars for a refurbished laptop that is already configured, not that you couldn't do it yourself, a free year of JAWS, which may or may not matter if you already have JAWS, and NVDA included may make more sense. I haven't gotten a machine from them, but I've heard good things from those who have.

If you ask here, you may get comments from a number of people about whether the machines satisfy users, have good keyboards, and other ;possible questions you have. There is a real difference between five hundred dollars and 150 dollars.

Regarding keyboards, I'm not sure what choices you have on laptops. My laptop has square keys that are much larger than the keys on a mechanical external keyboard. The feel of depression is different as well. The question of keyboards would be something to discuss here. I hope others comment on such questions as:
Can you find mechanical or small key keyboards in laptops? Are you willing to use an external keyboard? My guess is that you are used to external mechanical keyboards, not membrane keyboards. Although I haven't looked into this, my guess is that most perhaps almost all laptop keyboards are membrane and membrane keyboards have a different tension and feel than a mechanical keyboard.

As far as keys being of different shapes, I'm not sure what you are referring to but laptop keyboards often have keys like home and end in different places than external keyboards. They are often differently shaped from the letter and number keys as well.
Once I got used to where the home and end keys are on my keyboard, I don't object to them and find them as easy to use as the traditional home and end keys. It may be just a case of you getting used to a laptop computer keyboard. That may be easier for some people than for others.

If you use your computer mainly at home, you may want to get a mechanical external keyboard if that is what you are used to, and it probably is.

Many people use a laptop computer for mostly home use.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed, but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM, with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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thinkin, and drinkin and typin'

Monte Single
 

Hi List,

 

I use my computer just about any time of day or night.

Space is not a problem so I have a good sized u-shaped  workstation.

Quite often, I may be having a snack or a beverage while I use my pc.

Several years ago I started using those stainless types thermos containers like the one you get in a 2 pack at Costco.  These are the ones with the twist off tops.  They keepp hot  things hot and cold things cold. 

These containers are about 12-14  ozs.  They have little push buttons on the side of the tops.

So when youwant a drink, you just tip the top of the container to your lips and press the side button;  and drink your beverage of choice.

I mention these containers because they are spill proof and unbreakable.More than once, I have knocked one over, on my keyboard, on the floor, on the desk.

No worries,  nothingspills, nothing breaks.

 

I am not encouraging  people to have bad habits while using technology,

I’m just showing that   you can have  beverages, hot or cold,  in  your home/office space and not have to worry about spills.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte


Re: New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Gene
 

I consider the consideration about spilling things to be inapplicable. I'm not saying this to give any one person a hard time, but there are just certain things you don't do and one of them is eat or drink around a computer. In my opinion, that's just negligent behavior.

As far as laptop versus desktop is concerned, I don't know how much the ssmall desktops weigh so I can't comment on that. I will say that I used to use desktops and purchase them. But I want the option to use a computer portably and conveniently in different rooms. It may still be that laptops don't last as long in general as desktops, but I'll pay to replace a laptop more often because I consider it perhaps even more expensive to have a laptop that I would seldom use outside of my home and a separate desktop that I would use most of the time at home.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I have a couple of lap tops but I only have them because I require portability sometimes. If I was planning to use my computer at home all the time, in one place, I would never choose a lap top over a desk top computer. Consider the following.

One can now buy desktop computers that are both tiny and powerful. You can get computers that are All-in-one, which means all the goodies, except for the keyboard are built in to the unit, similar to the way apple does it with the iMac..
If you are using your laptop with it's built-in keyboard and you spill something such as a coffee or any other liquid in to it, you risk ruining the entire device. If you do this to an external keyboard, you just say "oh rats" toss the keyboard out and plug another one in.
I spilled an entire cup of hot chocolate in to my X Wifes laptop many years ago, and although it wasn't the cause of our eventual divorce, it sure earned me a trip to the dog house. 😀

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 27, 2020 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I would not get a laptop, if I had to use another keyboard, don't have one for my iPhone, wouldn't have one for it. That just makes for too clumsy maneuvering in my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Hi,
May I ask you why you say you don't like Laptop keyboards? I've never used a Laptop before, and I don't know very much about them, so if you would please shed some light on the factors of Laptop keyboards, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Catherine Clegg
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I hate laptop keyboards so I always buy an external one
On Dec 26, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi Marie,
Don't let it intimidate me, laughing, so you made my day! I was pretty close to letting it intimidate me! Laughing! I can't stand the keyboard though, so I haven't even turned it on. As far as the MS, I think that was a 6 month trial though, but I don't want MS, but I'm just not for sure if I will need MS or not, but I'll see. I will see what I can find at Best Buy Monday when I take back the Laptop I just bought.
Thank you so much!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet,
Power the laptop up and wait a minute for the booth process to begin.
Then press the ctrl Plus Windows key plus enter and soon Narrator will
begin talking.
I am quite sure that Windows 10 is on the machine and if you take your
time and listen to the prompts, you can get it set up. Many of us have
done it before you.
I also believe that the Office suite is a thirty day trial unless you
paid extra to have the package.
The important thing is not to let it intimidate you. LOL!


-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

HI Marten,
Thank you for this, but I don't even know if Windows 10 is already
installed, although, I don't think so. The person who helped me
online with this, said Windows is already installed. I don't know the
Lenovo key on the keyboard in which I think I might need. I don't
know the product key number either. LOL! I don't know if Narrator
will walk me through all the steps or not though. I don't know if
this was a good idea buying this Laptop either. Thank you anyway. I greatly appreciate it.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet" ,

You can cturn on Narrator with ctrl-win-enter, but I am not sure with
wat screen the Lenovo will start.

You can try to start the laptop and after a while press this shortkey.

It can also be, that the laptop will ask to install windows and in
this case I am not sure if Narrator is working.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:59:39 +0000 "Janet"
<janet.harvard@outlook.com>
wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Well, I thought I wasn't going to receive my new Lenovo IdeaPad until
Jan 06-2021, but I just received it, and I don't know what to do with it now!
LOL! I do know it might take me sometime to learn the keys, as some
of them are long and some of them are wide, and the keys are a little
larger than what I am used to. The keys are also close to each
other. Any suggestions how to get started with this, meaning I need
some speech, or there isn't any point in me even turning it on! LOL!
Someone mentioned to turn on Narrator, but I don't remember how to turn it on.

Janet

Peace Be With You.

























Comcast questions

Terrilynne Pomeroy
 

I just got signed up with Comcast and I have questions about the TV service.

 

First, because it comes with apps such as Youtube and Netflix, I am wondering if there is anyway for me to make this stuff accessible To me.

 

Second, I was told that the remote is new. This remote is both difficult to use and easy to make mistakes with. Does anyone know if there is a more easy-to-use remote that I can ask for?

 

Mightpurchasing something like a fire stick or Apple TV help me with any of these problems?

 

Thanks,

 

TerriLynne

 

 

 

 


Re: Website Question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

According to the US Catholic Conference of Bishops, here are all the approved bible versions. I believe I downloaded one of them years ago, chapter by chapter, book by book, but I can't find it now.


Books of the New Testament, Alba House
Contemporary English Version - New Testament, First Edition, American Bible Society
Contemporary English Version - Book of Psalms, American Bible Society
Contemporary English Version - Book of Proverbs, American Bible Society
The Grail Psalter (Inclusive Language Version), G.I.A. Publications
New American Bible, Revised Edition (NABRE)
New Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition, National Council of Churches
The Psalms, Alba House
The Psalms (New International Version) - St. Joseph Catholic Edition, Catholic Book Publishing Company
The Psalms - St. Joseph New Catholic Version, Catholic Book Publishing Company
Revised Psalms of the New American Bible (1991)
So You May Believe, A Translation of the Four Gospels, Alba House
Good News Translation (Today's English Version, Second Edition), American Bible Society
Translation for Early Youth, A Translation of the New Testament for Children, Contemporary English

On 12/28/2020 6:34 AM, Gene wrote:
The site Ron gave has a different version of the Bible than the newest one made available and the newest one is probably the one your class is using. I don't know if or how much it matters but if you want to use what is likely the same one, with the same introductions to books and footnotes, this site will provide it:
The site Ron gave has a different version of the Bible than the newest one made available and the newest one is probably the one your class is using. I don't know if or how much it matters but if you want to use what I suspect is likely the same one, with the same introductions to books and footnotes, this site will provide it:
https://bible.usccb.org/bible

I am not a Catholic but I suspect the version on the site Ron gave is the Scolfield Bible.  I didn't find an attribution on the site but I compared and it definitely isn't the version on the USCCB site.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:14 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Website Question

       Hi Group:


I was wondering if anyone knows of a good place that's accessible to
find books of the Bible?  I'm doing a class and would like to find a
website with the books of the Bible where I can go to the site and pick
which took I want to read and I would be able to find the chapters
easily.  I'm looking for a Catholic Bible.  If no one knows, I perfectly
understand.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly








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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Recommendations for Bluetooth earbuds headset

Kathy Pingstock
 

Good morning to all

I cannot afford the Apple EarPods so I am looking for recommendations for that Bluetooth earbuds I sort of have small ears so I have trouble with keeping earbuds in my ears I am looking for purchasing a new Bluetooth earbud headphones thank you

Kathy


Re: New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

chris judge
 

I have a couple of lap tops but I only have them because I require portability sometimes. If I was planning to use my computer at home all the time, in one place, I would never choose a lap top over a desk top computer. Consider the following.

One can now buy desktop computers that are both tiny and powerful. You can get computers that are All-in-one, which means all the goodies, except for the keyboard are built in to the unit, similar to the way apple does it with the iMac..
If you are using your laptop with it's built-in keyboard and you spill something such as a coffee or any other liquid in to it, you risk ruining the entire device. If you do this to an external keyboard, you just say "oh rats" toss the keyboard out and plug another one in.
I spilled an entire cup of hot chocolate in to my X Wifes laptop many years ago, and although it wasn't the cause of our eventual divorce, it sure earned me a trip to the dog house. 😀

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: December 27, 2020 4:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I would not get a laptop, if I had to use another keyboard, don't have one for my iPhone, wouldn't have one for it. That just makes for too clumsy maneuvering in my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Hi,
May I ask you why you say you don't like Laptop keyboards? I've never used a Laptop before, and I don't know very much about them, so if you would please shed some light on the factors of Laptop keyboards, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Catherine Clegg
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

I hate laptop keyboards so I always buy an external one
On Dec 26, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Janet <janet.harvard@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi Marie,
Don't let it intimidate me, laughing, so you made my day! I was pretty close to letting it intimidate me! Laughing! I can't stand the keyboard though, so I haven't even turned it on. As far as the MS, I think that was a 6 month trial though, but I don't want MS, but I'm just not for sure if I will need MS or not, but I'll see. I will see what I can find at Best Buy Monday when I take back the Laptop I just bought.
Thank you so much!
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet,
Power the laptop up and wait a minute for the booth process to begin.
Then press the ctrl Plus Windows key plus enter and soon Narrator will
begin talking.
I am quite sure that Windows 10 is on the machine and if you take your
time and listen to the prompts, you can get it set up. Many of us have
done it before you.
I also believe that the Office suite is a thirty day trial unless you
paid extra to have the package.
The important thing is not to let it intimidate you. LOL!


-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

HI Marten,
Thank you for this, but I don't even know if Windows 10 is already
installed, although, I don't think so. The person who helped me
online with this, said Windows is already installed. I don't know the
Lenovo key on the keyboard in which I think I might need. I don't
know the product key number either. LOL! I don't know if Narrator
will walk me through all the steps or not though. I don't know if
this was a good idea buying this Laptop either. Thank you anyway. I greatly appreciate it.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Lenovo IdeaPad Help Please.

Janet" ,

You can cturn on Narrator with ctrl-win-enter, but I am not sure with
wat screen the Lenovo will start.

You can try to start the laptop and after a while press this shortkey.

It can also be, that the laptop will ask to install windows and in
this case I am not sure if Narrator is working.

Regards, Marten


On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:59:39 +0000 "Janet"
<janet.harvard@outlook.com>
wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Well, I thought I wasn't going to receive my new Lenovo IdeaPad until
Jan 06-2021, but I just received it, and I don't know what to do with it now!
LOL! I do know it might take me sometime to learn the keys, as some
of them are long and some of them are wide, and the keys are a little
larger than what I am used to. The keys are also close to each
other. Any suggestions how to get started with this, meaning I need
some speech, or there isn't any point in me even turning it on! LOL!
Someone mentioned to turn on Narrator, but I don't remember how to turn it on.

Janet

Peace Be With You.

























Re: Website Question

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Yes, I like the USCCB site. I get the daily readings from them in email. If you go to the site Gene mentioned, you can sign up for that.

Ann P.

--
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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Website Question

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Oh my, you mean there is actually a person who isn't familiar with Xavier Society for the Blind? You could get the newest Roman Catholic translation of The Bible on CD for free if you wanted it, plus the weekly readings for Sunday Mass. they have all kinds of religious material in Braille and also in .brf and audio.

Xavier Society for the Blind
248 35th Street
Suite 1502
New York, New York 10001-2505
https://xaviersocietyfortheblind.org/
(212) 473-7800

They're a Jesuit ministry. I get the weekly readings from them, and I have the Bible on CD. Yes, you can access the books with ease and go to the verses you want. They've been operating for a hundred and twenty years. They also have a very nice braille pocket calendar which I love. It's not too big and it has the year's calendar including holidays and feast days and saints' days. It's very handy. Just ask them to send you one.

Now if you just want to get the occasional Bible verse or chaptger, the best place is:

http://www.biblegateway.org

HTH,
Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: Website Question

Gene
 

this site gives links to read four approved Catholic Bibles. You may want
to ask which version is used in your class and if the instructor cares which
version you use.
https://mycatholic.life/bible/

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Website Question

The site Ron gave has a different version of the Bible than the newest one
made available and the newest one is probably the one your class is using.
I don't know if or how much it matters but if you want to use what is likely
the same one, with the same introductions to books and footnotes, this site
will provide it:
The site Ron gave has a different version of the Bible than the newest one
made available and the newest one is probably the one your class is using.
I don't know if or how much it matters but if you want to use what I suspect
is likely the same one, with the same introductions to books and footnotes,
this site will provide it:
https://bible.usccb.org/bible

I am not a Catholic but I suspect the version on the site Ron gave is the
Scolfield Bible. I didn't find an attribution on the site but I compared
and it definitely isn't the version on the USCCB site.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:14 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Website Question

Hi Group:


I was wondering if anyone knows of a good place that's accessible to
find books of the Bible? I'm doing a class and would like to find a
website with the books of the Bible where I can go to the site and pick
which took I want to read and I would be able to find the chapters
easily. I'm looking for a Catholic Bible. If no one knows, I perfectly
understand. Thanks in advance.

Shelly


Accessible power banks

Tariq Ali
 

Hi Folks
I’m looking for a recommendation on an accessible power bank must have fast charging capability

Regards
Tariq


Re: Website Question

Gene
 

The site Ron gave has a different version of the Bible than the newest one made available and the newest one is probably the one your class is using. I don't know if or how much it matters but if you want to use what is likely the same one, with the same introductions to books and footnotes, this site will provide it:
The site Ron gave has a different version of the Bible than the newest one made available and the newest one is probably the one your class is using. I don't know if or how much it matters but if you want to use what I suspect is likely the same one, with the same introductions to books and footnotes, this site will provide it:
https://bible.usccb.org/bible

I am not a Catholic but I suspect the version on the site Ron gave is the Scolfield Bible. I didn't find an attribution on the site but I compared and it definitely isn't the version on the USCCB site.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelly Kane
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:14 AM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Website Question

Hi Group:


I was wondering if anyone knows of a good place that's accessible to
find books of the Bible? I'm doing a class and would like to find a
website with the books of the Bible where I can go to the site and pick
which took I want to read and I would be able to find the chapters
easily. I'm looking for a Catholic Bible. If no one knows, I perfectly
understand. Thanks in advance.

Shelly


Re: Website Question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Shelly,

Here is a site called Catholic Online Bible.  They bark at you a lot for donations (go figure) but at this time, you can access each of the books individually and chapters as well.
https://www.catholic.org/bible/books_bible.php#content

On 12/28/2020 5:14 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Group:


I was wondering if anyone knows of a good place that's accessible to find books of the Bible?  I'm doing a class and would like to find a website with the books of the Bible where I can go to the site and pick which took I want to read and I would be able to find the chapters easily.  I'm looking for a Catholic Bible.  If no one knows, I perfectly understand.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly




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Website Question

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Group:


I was wondering if anyone knows of a good place that's accessible to find books of the Bible?  I'm doing a class and would like to find a website with the books of the Bible where I can go to the site and pick which took I want to read and I would be able to find the chapters easily.  I'm looking for a Catholic Bible.  If no one knows, I perfectly understand.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly


Re: Lenovo Laptops.

Lenron
 

Wireless keyboard, and again get a wireless keyboard. At this point
you have a better chance of finding one of those you like for cheap
than a laptop that has the perfect keyboard these days.

On 12/27/20, Brian Zolo <brianzolo@charter.net> wrote:
Hey there, Janet, they're not being straight with you at that best buy. The
machines are already set up with the operating system installed. I
certainly understand about all-in-ones. I'd definitely want a straight
laptop. The operating system is already installed. They're definitely not
being straight with you. bZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Brian,
I think I just might have to buy an external NumPad, and maybe just a normal
Laptop. I want to feel the keys before I buy another Laptop though. If I
can't work with the keys I don't want to pay for the Laptop if I can't use
it. So, I want to feel the keys on a Laptop without the NumPad to see if
there is a difference. I also just don't want the Laptops 2 in 1 as they
call them, meaning I want one without the touch screen, as that could have
been some of my problems I had today trying to set up the new Laptop I just
bought. We'll see, as I am going to Best Buy tomorrow.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Zolo
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hey there, Janet, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio. Why not just buy an
external keyboard rather than getting a whole new laptop. At some point in
time you'll definitely need to consider either getting a subscription to
office 365 or get a physical version of Microsoft office. Office 365 is
subscription based but the advantage to subscriptions is that you'll always
be kept up to date. I've stayed with external keyboards and that's just a
personal choice because of the differences in the layout of laptop
keyboards. Most laptops that you buy will already have windows ten
installed. Then it's a matter of getting whatever screen reading software
you intend to use installed. Variety is the spice of life, grin1 bZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi,
You are so right. It really does all depend on what someone does, and often
they use it. So, you got a Lenovo for $250, great deal, and it still is
running! LOL! I can't stand the keyboard on this Lenovo I bought though.
I will take it back to Best Buy Monday, and hopefully get a better one with
a better keyboard for me to work with.

Thank you so much for all your help.

Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

How long a laptop or desktop lasts depends on many factors. Some of the
factors are; The quality of the components of the machine, How and where the
machine is used, How many hours a day or week the machine is used.
... and others I do not think of right now.

I gave my sister an inexpensive Lenovo laptop in July of 2016. She
probably uses it a bit each day but I know she does not spend hours and
hours, on facebook, pinterest, and games.
So she has been using that cheap Lenovo laptop for 4 and a half years. It
does all the thing she wants to do. It may die tomorrow. It may last
andother 4 years. It keeps instaloling the windows updates.
It cost 250 U S dollars on sale.
If it dies tomorrow, so be it.
I figure it was a good investment.
For some other people, that laptop would have been inadequate.
Getting a machine that suits your needs and your budget is the best you can
do.
If money is not an issue, then you have a lot more choices.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: December 26, 2020 8:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I
recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to
flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key
goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the
Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only
will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little
longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've
read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat
quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am
going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num
pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their
stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss
the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a
typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely
won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips
offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and
which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the
knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed,
but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a
different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences
matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I
don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and
to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't
have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective
differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what
we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela
Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor
that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors
were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were
all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are
now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and
video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh
Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A
LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this
before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM,
with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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