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Re: I haven't seen any mail from TechTalk in a while

Alex Stone
 

Hi guys, I’m still here.

On 29 Feb 2020, at 15:03, James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...> wrote:

Hi there my friend Olusegun,

Its Good to get at least one email from TechTalk. Your response is the
first email from TechTalk that I have received since yesterday at 11:57 am.

I'm getting the rest of my mail from Groups.io. So, I do not know what to
heck is up!

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 8:50 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I haven't seen any mail from TechTalk in a while

Mr. Bentley, you're loud and clear in this space. I hope you are able to
read this; you may want to check on groups.io to see if you've experienced
any bounces recently.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado








Re: I haven't seen any mail from TechTalk in a while

James Bentley
 

Hi there my friend Olusegun,

Its Good to get at least one email from TechTalk. Your response is the
first email from TechTalk that I have received since yesterday at 11:57 am.

I'm getting the rest of my mail from Groups.io. So, I do not know what to
heck is up!

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 8:50 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I haven't seen any mail from TechTalk in a while

Mr. Bentley, you're loud and clear in this space. I hope you are able to
read this; you may want to check on groups.io to see if you've experienced
any bounces recently.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: I haven't seen any mail from TechTalk in a while

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Mr. Bentley, you're loud and clear in this space. I hope you are able to
read this; you may want to check on groups.io to see if you've experienced
any bounces recently.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


I haven't seen any mail from TechTalk in a while

James Bentley
 

I hope all is well.

 

James B 


Re: Kindle for PC question

Dave
 

Hi Steve,


There is a Kindle version that is some what accessible, although, I did
download it from the Amazon site, I couldn't tell you exactly where to
find it.  You may need to call the folks at Amazon again, and see if
they can give you better directions as where to find the accessible
Kindle for PC.


As for the problem you are having, it sounds like you may have purchased
a book that is not able to be read by a Screen Reader in Kindle.


I have bought roughly bout 25 Books, and out of the 25, I have one that
will not read at all, and at least two others that read with the
Microsoft voice, which is not all that satisfactory.  And you are right,
moving around in the text is seriously limited.


I believe the problem is a Cost Cutting measure the Author of the Book
has taken, as for the Book to read with a Screen Reader, may need some
extra items added to the Text, which takes time, and adds cost to
publishing a Book.


Even though I have purchased so many Books, and the majority work as
expected, I am seriously thinking of just buying the Audible version,
for about twice the price of a Kindle Book.


But, even then, there are some problems.


I bought a Audible Book on Computer Programing, and they failed to read
all of the examples of Code.



If I needed the examples, I could go to the guys web site etc.  A pain
in the Butt.


So as how to read the Book you have, if the Microsoft voices is the only
way to get it to read, that is about it.


I have been able to use a program, think it is called Codex to create a
normal Text file from several of my Kindle files.


But, here again, I can convert some Books, and not others.   So, your
Mileage may vary.


Grumpy Dave


Re: Kindle for PC question

Steve Matzura
 

What's the "accessible" version? The one I have direct from Amazon doesn't do much except let me read the table of contents for any of my books, or I can press CTRL/T and get a book to read in one of the default Microsoft SAPI voices. If I do that, all I can do is stop and start it, and it always starts from the beginning of the selected section of the book. What on earth am I doing wrong? Not even folks on the Kindle email list can tell me.

On 2/26/2020 7:11 PM, Dave wrote:
Hello Karen,

<Smile>  How to use Kindle for PC is a larger question, but I'll share
what it takes to get a Book and to start reading it.

I download the Accessible version of Kindle for PC, and installed it.

I then ran it once, just to take a quick look.

I did go to Amazon to purchase a Book. , once I received an Email
acknowledging my purchase, I then started up Kindle for PC.


You may need to Tab around till you come to  a Table where all of your
purchased Books are listed.

If no Book is listed, and you have bought at least one Book, Press the
F5 key to force Kindle to check for New Books.

After doing this, the Book Title should appear in the Book list.

Move up or down with the Arrow keys to find the Book Title.  Once on the
Title, press the Enter key.

This will download the New Book and open it to begin reading.

I use the Up and Down arrows to move through the Text, or I use the Read
to End  in JAWS to sit back and listen to the Book getting read through
Jaws.

Pressing Escape stops the reading, and if you choose to close Kindle at
this time, it will save your place.

The next time you start Kindle, it will start at the same place you left
off in the previous session.

If you want to close the Book, there are short cut keys to do this, but
since I can't remember it right now, pressing the ALT-F will open the
File Menu and arrow down till you find Close Book. Press Enter and the
Book will Close, and the Focus will be back in the area where all of
your Books are listed.

There are other features to Kindle, but this should get you going.

Now a comment about Books for Kindle-

I have bought books that do not read in Kindle.  They are made for
Kindle, but Jaws will not read them.

I have bought other books that Jaws will not read, but the Reading
feature in Kindle will read them.

The kindle voices are not as good as the Jaws voices And moving around
in the Book is not as smooth as when Jaws is doing the reading.

Then I have the majority of my books that read just fine with Jaws, and
I have no problems getting around.


I will say that I have bought some Books for learning Computer
Programming, that read fine, but the Books have pictures of Screen
Shots, showing their Code.  This is great for the person with Vision,
but not so great for someone using a Screen Reader.

Sometimes you can pay a good chunk of money for some of these books, and
then you find out they have pictures instead of Text when showing Code
examples.

I have not attempted to use the OCR feature in Jaws yet.   so that might
be a way to grab the text in those pictures.

Although, the accuracy would need to be spot on, cause one wrong
character in a line of Code is not going to be helpful.


Over all, I find Kindle for PC to work.  it has its quirks, and at times
can be fussy, but it works as long as I don't need to do something more
than just read the book.

Between the limitations of what Jaws will read, and perhaps some odd
things about Kindle, keeping it simple is the best way to use Kindle.

As for the Kindle App for Phones, someone else will need to advise you
on that as I do not own a Cell Phone.  Shocking for sure, but I don't
need one bad enough to justify their Cost, or the Calling Plan.


this is my choice, and while I am sure I could find a use for a Phone, I
would hardly use it.


Grumpy Dave


Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

heather albright
 

I would second you might consider a computer for the blind. She can use narrator or NVDA if she does not want to purchase jaws. I worked with an elderly gentleman  who was given an apple ipad mini. So he was able to face time with his family, take notes, listen to his music and get reminders for his meds. I trained him on it. He does basic things with it I think it was a 32gb model. You might consider an ipod she could do everything with it as well. But the latest ipadd is only 2.50 for a 32 gb. I think the ipods are 194. SO it is all a matter of how you think she will warm up to these items. Cheers Heather  

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed

 

Mike,

I feel very conflicted with what I'm about to say as I loved working for Blazie Engineering and its products and was extremely loyal to them. Back in the 1990s people were very used to more robotic voices. Yes, even back then customers wanted to see a better voice in the Blazie product line but they still accepted the voice that came with it. I think that, once this lady hears modern speech she may have a challenging time adapting to the TNS's voice. In all honesty it might be better finding a refurbished VoiceNote from Humanware or getting her a laptop from Computers for the Blind.

Their laptops come with JAWS which is free for the first year. If she's new to computers you could purchase Leasey Total, which is designed for people who want or need a simple, menu-driven interface for their computer.

My other concern is the lack of support for the TNS. Who will assist her if she runs into a problem? Not many people know the commands to use it and I don't know if Freedom Scientific provides technical support for it these days, although you could ask them. It won't be able to go online with today's technology. In order to back up her documents she will either need the external disk drive accessory which was made for it or a computer. I normally wouldn't talk somebody out of purchasing a refurbished Blazie Engineering product. There are many people who would love to purchase a Braille 'n Speak, Type 'n Speak or Braille Lite. For people who know how to use it and who can support themselves and who are willing to pay for it I think that's fabulous, in the same way that many people would love to buy old Apple 2 computers or other similar products. I just don't know if I'd recommend it for a woman who has little experience with blindness assistive technology considering the lack of support. At least if she buys an older Humanware product she can likely get help from Humanware if she has questions or problems. Even buying a refurbished Pac Mate might be a better choice. With a Windows laptop she can easily get support from a variety of sources. Others may disagree with me and that's OK but I just wanted to add my perspective to this before she commits to using it.

 

 

 

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 2/26/2020 8:04 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi David,

 

Thank you very much for this information, it'll help a lot.  This lady has never used any kind of synthesized voice, other than the talking clock I gave her, so I don't know how I'm going to show her how synthesized voices sound.  Oh wait, I can take her my wife's laptop and let her listen to Jaws!  Thanks again.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed

 

Mike,

The Type 'n Speak was produced by Blazie Engineering in the 1990s. I used to work for Blazie Engineering and I am, therefore, very familiar with this product and so I'll try to answer all of your questions to the best of my ability.

The TNS does have its own speaker, as well as a standard 3.5 headphone jack. I can't remember the name of the actual speech chip but voice parameters can be altered, such as pitch, rate, volume and tone. Its voice is rather robotic compared to today's speech synthesizers, even Eloquence, and this could be the one challenge this woman might have although we were all used to it back in the day.

You can find a manual for it at the above link.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 2/26/2020 6:51 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi All,

 

I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...

 

I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?

 

Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?

 

What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?

 

All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

 


Re: Accessible Podcasting Platform

Victor
 

Hello:

Another good platform is called Anchor. www.anchor.FM this platform can help you monetize your podcast. Do any of the others you have mentioned help monetize your podcasts as well?

Victor


On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:


Hello,

thanks.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:25 AM Donna <mermaid7@...> wrote:
Yes, I have seen the videos uploaded to anchor &  Apple podcasts. I think that there is another one, but I forget.

Donna
>
> Can you upload podcasts if you've prerecorded them onto StreamYard?
>
>> On 26/02/2020 13:03, Donna wrote:
>> A lot of the blind YouTubers use StreamYard. They say that it is the easiest to use & the quality of their podcast are the best when compared to other blind friendly apps or websites.
>>
>> Donna
>>> Hello all, my brother, who is blind, is considering starting a podcast, and he wants to find a hosting service he can use.  Could anyone recommend a platform for hosting podcasts that is accessible and has an intuitive interface, as he is not very tech savvy.  Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Samuel Wilkins
>
>
>
>






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Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

David Goldfield
 

Good thing you don't have the cassette tutorial that I recorded for it. That might bring back some bad memories. ☺

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 8:06 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:

oh I remember the expense of the little things, but as I said it was well worth it for me. I wore that poor thing out. the keyboard was great and I took many a class note on it.
 
sure brings back memories.
 
 
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed
 

As the TNS isn't available to buy as a new device I would say that a fair asking price might be a few hundred dollars. I honestly wouldn't pay more than $300 for it but that's just me and what I feel that it's worth. Others may disagree. I believe that its original price was $1395. I really loved its keyboard. 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 7:53 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:
Mike, here’s what I know about the TNS...now remember however that the last time I used one was about 1995.
it has it’s own speaker. there is a headphone jack that was 3.5 mm at that time.
you can adjust the tone etc. as far as the synthesizer goes but at that time it took some getting used to.
It is a very basic and very simple machine that I loved and it helped me get several degrees.
just out of curiosity what does one run for nowadays?
Dave
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:51 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed
 
Hi All,
 
I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...
 
I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?
 
Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?
 
What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?
 
All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: a piece of software. Plextalk recording software

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Kerryn.

Plextalk is a company which produces several types of digital talking book players, similar to devices such as the Victor Stream or the Hims line of players. The product that I'm most familiar with was known as the Plextalk Pocket. It has similar functionality to a Victor Reader Stream although it's a bit smaller. I think that Plextalk sold it under the name PTP1 and APH sold a version of it which they called the Bookport Plus. I own a Plextalk Pocket but I wanted it not so much for its reading features but for its recording capabilities, which were very nice. Try this link for the page, btw. Hopefully, that one should work. I had pasted it in an earlier message while on my iPhone and I may have inadvertently done something to corrupt the URL and I apologize for that.

Also, thank you for your nice words about my Web site. That is very kind.

Take care.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 8:11 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

what is plex talk
i am trying to open this link, not working
 
i love your website david
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a piece of software. Plextalk recording software

Penny, you can find the software at  http://www.plextalk.com/americas/top/support/ptp1/softwaredownloads/

     David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site

On Feb 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Penny Golden <pengold2@...> wrote:

    Does anyone know where the Plextalk Recording Software is downloadable from?

Sorry, I ended the sntence with a preposition.  I may have had a copy once on some CD that came with the units; now I'm a little clueless as to where to look. I asked on the list, but have not had an answer yet.

Thanks.

Penny






Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

David Goldfield
 

Mike,

I feel very conflicted with what I'm about to say as I loved working for Blazie Engineering and its products and was extremely loyal to them. Back in the 1990s people were very used to more robotic voices. Yes, even back then customers wanted to see a better voice in the Blazie product line but they still accepted the voice that came with it. I think that, once this lady hears modern speech she may have a challenging time adapting to the TNS's voice. In all honesty it might be better finding a refurbished VoiceNote from Humanware or getting her a laptop from Computers for the Blind.

Their laptops come with JAWS which is free for the first year. If she's new to computers you could purchase Leasey Total, which is designed for people who want or need a simple, menu-driven interface for their computer.

My other concern is the lack of support for the TNS. Who will assist her if she runs into a problem? Not many people know the commands to use it and I don't know if Freedom Scientific provides technical support for it these days, although you could ask them. It won't be able to go online with today's technology. In order to back up her documents she will either need the external disk drive accessory which was made for it or a computer. I normally wouldn't talk somebody out of purchasing a refurbished Blazie Engineering product. There are many people who would love to purchase a Braille 'n Speak, Type 'n Speak or Braille Lite. For people who know how to use it and who can support themselves and who are willing to pay for it I think that's fabulous, in the same way that many people would love to buy old Apple 2 computers or other similar products. I just don't know if I'd recommend it for a woman who has little experience with blindness assistive technology considering the lack of support. At least if she buys an older Humanware product she can likely get help from Humanware if she has questions or problems. Even buying a refurbished Pac Mate might be a better choice. With a Windows laptop she can easily get support from a variety of sources. Others may disagree with me and that's OK but I just wanted to add my perspective to this before she commits to using it.





David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 8:04 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi David,
 
Thank you very much for this information, it'll help a lot.  This lady has never used any kind of synthesized voice, other than the talking clock I gave her, so I don't know how I'm going to show her how synthesized voices sound.  Oh wait, I can take her my wife's laptop and let her listen to Jaws!  Thanks again.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed

Mike,

The Type 'n Speak was produced by Blazie Engineering in the 1990s. I used to work for Blazie Engineering and I am, therefore, very familiar with this product and so I'll try to answer all of your questions to the best of my ability.

The TNS does have its own speaker, as well as a standard 3.5 headphone jack. I can't remember the name of the actual speech chip but voice parameters can be altered, such as pitch, rate, volume and tone. Its voice is rather robotic compared to today's speech synthesizers, even Eloquence, and this could be the one challenge this woman might have although we were all used to it back in the day.

You can find a manual for it at the above link.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 6:51 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi All,
 
I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...
 
I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?
 
Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?
 
What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?
 
All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: a piece of software. Plextalk recording software

Kerryn Gunness
 


what is plex talk
i am trying to open this link, not working
 
i love your website david
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a piece of software. Plextalk recording software

Penny, you can find the software at  http://www.plextalk.com/americas/top/support/ptp1/softwaredownloads/

     David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site

On Feb 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Penny Golden <pengold2@...> wrote:

    Does anyone know where the Plextalk Recording Software is downloadable from?

Sorry, I ended the sntence with a preposition.  I may have had a copy once on some CD that came with the units; now I'm a little clueless as to where to look. I asked on the list, but have not had an answer yet.

Thanks.

Penny






Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

Dave Mitchel
 

oh I remember the expense of the little things, but as I said it was well worth it for me. I wore that poor thing out. the keyboard was great and I took many a class note on it.
 
sure brings back memories.
 
 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 5:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed
 

As the TNS isn't available to buy as a new device I would say that a fair asking price might be a few hundred dollars. I honestly wouldn't pay more than $300 for it but that's just me and what I feel that it's worth. Others may disagree. I believe that its original price was $1395. I really loved its keyboard. 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 7:53 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:
Mike, here’s what I know about the TNS...now remember however that the last time I used one was about 1995.
it has it’s own speaker. there is a headphone jack that was 3.5 mm at that time.
you can adjust the tone etc. as far as the synthesizer goes but at that time it took some getting used to.
It is a very basic and very simple machine that I loved and it helped me get several degrees.
just out of curiosity what does one run for nowadays?
Dave
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:51 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed
 
Hi All,
 
I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...
 
I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?
 
Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?
 
What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?
 
All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

Mike B
 

Hi Dave,
 
I think I can get 1 for around $200 that has been totally refurbished.  Thank you very much for your input.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed

Mike, here’s what I know about the TNS...now remember however that the last time I used one was about 1995.
it has it’s own speaker. there is a headphone jack that was 3.5 mm at that time.
you can adjust the tone etc. as far as the synthesizer goes but at that time it took some getting used to.
It is a very basic and very simple machine that I loved and it helped me get several degrees.
just out of curiosity what does one run for nowadays?
Dave
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:51 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed
 
Hi All,
 
I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...
 
I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?
 
Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?
 
What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?
 
All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

Mike B
 

Hi David,
 
Thank you very much for this information, it'll help a lot.  This lady has never used any kind of synthesized voice, other than the talking clock I gave her, so I don't know how I'm going to show her how synthesized voices sound.  Oh wait, I can take her my wife's laptop and let her listen to Jaws!  Thanks again.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed

Mike,

The Type 'n Speak was produced by Blazie Engineering in the 1990s. I used to work for Blazie Engineering and I am, therefore, very familiar with this product and so I'll try to answer all of your questions to the best of my ability.

The TNS does have its own speaker, as well as a standard 3.5 headphone jack. I can't remember the name of the actual speech chip but voice parameters can be altered, such as pitch, rate, volume and tone. Its voice is rather robotic compared to today's speech synthesizers, even Eloquence, and this could be the one challenge this woman might have although we were all used to it back in the day.

You can find a manual for it at the above link.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 6:51 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi All,
 
I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...
 
I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?
 
Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?
 
What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?
 
All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

David Goldfield
 

As the TNS isn't available to buy as a new device I would say that a fair asking price might be a few hundred dollars. I honestly wouldn't pay more than $300 for it but that's just me and what I feel that it's worth. Others may disagree. I believe that its original price was $1395. I really loved its keyboard. 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 7:53 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:

Mike, here’s what I know about the TNS...now remember however that the last time I used one was about 1995.
it has it’s own speaker. there is a headphone jack that was 3.5 mm at that time.
you can adjust the tone etc. as far as the synthesizer goes but at that time it took some getting used to.
It is a very basic and very simple machine that I loved and it helped me get several degrees.
just out of curiosity what does one run for nowadays?
Dave
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:51 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed
 
Hi All,
 
I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...
 
I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?
 
Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?
 
What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?
 
All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: Kindle for PC question

Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks dave

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From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Kindle for PC question


Hello Karen,

<Smile> How to use Kindle for PC is a larger question, but I'll share
what it takes to get a Book and to start reading it.

I download the Accessible version of Kindle for PC, and installed it.

I then ran it once, just to take a quick look.

I did go to Amazon to purchase a Book. , once I received an Email
acknowledging my purchase, I then started up Kindle for PC.


You may need to Tab around till you come to a Table where all of your
purchased Books are listed.

If no Book is listed, and you have bought at least one Book, Press the
F5 key to force Kindle to check for New Books.

After doing this, the Book Title should appear in the Book list.

Move up or down with the Arrow keys to find the Book Title. Once on the
Title, press the Enter key.

This will download the New Book and open it to begin reading.

I use the Up and Down arrows to move through the Text, or I use the Read
to End in JAWS to sit back and listen to the Book getting read through
Jaws.

Pressing Escape stops the reading, and if you choose to close Kindle at
this time, it will save your place.

The next time you start Kindle, it will start at the same place you left
off in the previous session.

If you want to close the Book, there are short cut keys to do this, but
since I can't remember it right now, pressing the ALT-F will open the
File Menu and arrow down till you find Close Book. Press Enter and the
Book will Close, and the Focus will be back in the area where all of
your Books are listed.

There are other features to Kindle, but this should get you going.

Now a comment about Books for Kindle-

I have bought books that do not read in Kindle. They are made for
Kindle, but Jaws will not read them.

I have bought other books that Jaws will not read, but the Reading
feature in Kindle will read them.

The kindle voices are not as good as the Jaws voices And moving around
in the Book is not as smooth as when Jaws is doing the reading.

Then I have the majority of my books that read just fine with Jaws, and
I have no problems getting around.


I will say that I have bought some Books for learning Computer
Programming, that read fine, but the Books have pictures of Screen
Shots, showing their Code. This is great for the person with Vision,
but not so great for someone using a Screen Reader.

Sometimes you can pay a good chunk of money for some of these books, and
then you find out they have pictures instead of Text when showing Code
examples.

I have not attempted to use the OCR feature in Jaws yet. so that might
be a way to grab the text in those pictures.

Although, the accuracy would need to be spot on, cause one wrong
character in a line of Code is not going to be helpful.


Over all, I find Kindle for PC to work. it has its quirks, and at times
can be fussy, but it works as long as I don't need to do something more
than just read the book.

Between the limitations of what Jaws will read, and perhaps some odd
things about Kindle, keeping it simple is the best way to use Kindle.

As for the Kindle App for Phones, someone else will need to advise you
on that as I do not own a Cell Phone. Shocking for sure, but I don't
need one bad enough to justify their Cost, or the Calling Plan.


this is my choice, and while I am sure I could find a use for a Phone, I
would hardly use it.


Grumpy Dave


Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

Dave Mitchel
 

Mike, here’s what I know about the TNS...now remember however that the last time I used one was about 1995.
it has it’s own speaker. there is a headphone jack that was 3.5 mm at that time.
you can adjust the tone etc. as far as the synthesizer goes but at that time it took some getting used to.
It is a very basic and very simple machine that I loved and it helped me get several degrees.
just out of curiosity what does one run for nowadays?
Dave
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 3:51 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Type N Speak Info Needed
 
Hi All,
 
I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...
 
I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?
 
Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?
 
What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?
 
All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: Type N Speak Info Needed

David Goldfield
 

Mike,

The Type 'n Speak was produced by Blazie Engineering in the 1990s. I used to work for Blazie Engineering and I am, therefore, very familiar with this product and so I'll try to answer all of your questions to the best of my ability.

The TNS does have its own speaker, as well as a standard 3.5 headphone jack. I can't remember the name of the actual speech chip but voice parameters can be altered, such as pitch, rate, volume and tone. Its voice is rather robotic compared to today's speech synthesizers, even Eloquence, and this could be the one challenge this woman might have although we were all used to it back in the day.

You can find a manual for it at the above link.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/26/2020 6:51 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi All,
 
I don't know much of anything about the Type N Speaks, other than you can save notes, documents address books...
 
I'm looking into purchasing 1 for an elderly lady that could use something like this for her personal files and such.  Can anyone answer the following questions please?
 
Does the Type N Speak have its own speakers, or will speakers need to be provided as well?  And do the speakers use a, 3.5 MM, plug / port if necessary?
 
What speech synthesizer does it use?  Also, Can the synthesizer settings be tweaked much like JAWS & NVDA?
 
All input will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: Kindle for PC question

Dave
 

Hello Karen,

<Smile>  How to use Kindle for PC is a larger question, but I'll share
what it takes to get a Book and to start reading it.

I download the Accessible version of Kindle for PC, and installed it.

I then ran it once, just to take a quick look.

I did go to Amazon to purchase a Book. , once I received an Email
acknowledging my purchase, I then started up Kindle for PC.


You may need to Tab around till you come to  a Table where all of your
purchased Books are listed.

If no Book is listed, and you have bought at least one Book, Press the
F5 key to force Kindle to check for New Books.

After doing this, the Book Title should appear in the Book list.

Move up or down with the Arrow keys to find the Book Title.  Once on the
Title, press the Enter key.

This will download the New Book and open it to begin reading.

I use the Up and Down arrows to move through the Text, or I use the Read
to End  in JAWS to sit back and listen to the Book getting read through
Jaws.

Pressing Escape stops the reading, and if you choose to close Kindle at
this time, it will save your place.

The next time you start Kindle, it will start at the same place you left
off in the previous session.

If you want to close the Book, there are short cut keys to do this, but
since I can't remember it right now, pressing the ALT-F will open the
File Menu and arrow down till you find Close Book. Press Enter and the
Book will Close, and the Focus will be back in the area where all of
your Books are listed.

There are other features to Kindle, but this should get you going.

Now a comment about Books for Kindle-

I have bought books that do not read in Kindle.  They are made for
Kindle, but Jaws will not read them.

I have bought other books that Jaws will not read, but the Reading
feature in Kindle will read them.

The kindle voices are not as good as the Jaws voices And moving around
in the Book is not as smooth as when Jaws is doing the reading.

Then I have the majority of my books that read just fine with Jaws, and
I have no problems getting around.


I will say that I have bought some Books for learning Computer
Programming, that read fine, but the Books have pictures of Screen
Shots, showing their Code.  This is great for the person with Vision,
but not so great for someone using a Screen Reader.

Sometimes you can pay a good chunk of money for some of these books, and
then you find out they have pictures instead of Text when showing Code
examples.

I have not attempted to use the OCR feature in Jaws yet.   so that might
be a way to grab the text in those pictures.

Although, the accuracy would need to be spot on, cause one wrong
character in a line of Code is not going to be helpful.


Over all, I find Kindle for PC to work.  it has its quirks, and at times
can be fussy, but it works as long as I don't need to do something more
than just read the book.

Between the limitations of what Jaws will read, and perhaps some odd
things about Kindle, keeping it simple is the best way to use Kindle.

As for the Kindle App for Phones, someone else will need to advise you
on that as I do not own a Cell Phone.  Shocking for sure, but I don't
need one bad enough to justify their Cost, or the Calling Plan.


this is my choice, and while I am sure I could find a use for a Phone, I
would hardly use it.


Grumpy Dave