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Re: win7 security software?

Gerald Levy
 


In addition to MSE, Malware Bytes still works in Windows 7.  There is a company called 0 Patch that intends to continue providing security updates for Windows 7 through 2023 for $25.99 a year, but according to a few members of another list who have tried installing it, it is not very accessible. And I think only enterprise customers can continue to receive security updates from Microsoft at additional annual cost. I don't think home users can sign up for this service.


Gerald



On 1/18/2020 9:04 PM, Gene wrote:
MSEE will continue to receive updates for Windows 7 users. If that is your concern, you need do nothing.  If you want to take other precautions, I don’t know how much it costs nor who will provide the service, but one or more companies, maybe Microsoft among them, is providing updates if you pay for the service.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:51 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] win7 security software?
 
hello all,
as certainly for the foreseeable, I plan to continue using win7, now that no more security updates will be forthcoming, I think I need to find some other security software to keep my machine hopefully protected from hacking, viruses, spy and malware, etc.
such software would need to be fully accessible, preferably with window-eyes, or if not, definitely with NVDA.
if possible it also shouldn't get in the way of the programs I already use which access the internet for what ever reason.
any ideas please?
as previously I have relied on MS security essentials and windows security updates, so haven't really had to think about this before.
I am not bothered if the software is free or paid, the major priorities here, are that it does the job, does it well, is accessible, and hopefully continues to do the job well and accessibly.
 
Simon
 
 


Re: question about temporarily unsubscribing

Gene
 

your welcome.  The reason its better to go nomail is that Groups.io has a requirement that owners can’t change, that when someone subscribes, their first message must be approved.  So for all the groups you would have left, the first message you sent to every one would have needed to be approved and that might have led to annoying delays in some cases.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] question about temporarily unsubscribing
 

Gene:

 

Thank you so much.  I will be gone for a week and didn't want to come back with a cluttered in-box.  I greatly appreciate your help.

Shelly

On 1/18/2020 1:24 PM, Gene wrote:
Its much better to go nomail.  If you have a fully setup account, you can do this with a browser as a general setting.  If not, you can do it group by group.
 
To go nomail for this group, you would send a blank e-mail to this address:
To resume delivery, send a blank e-mail to
 
If you want to resume delivery as a digest, there are other commands but I assume you want single message delivery.
 
The same syntax isw used with other Groups.io groups.  Name of group plus etc.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 4:05 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] question about temporarily unsubscribing
 
        Hi Group:


I'm going on vacation tomorrow and I was wondering if there is a way to
unsubscribe from the lists I am on until I get back?  I will be gone for
a week and I get a load of mail per day and won't be able to check it. 
So if possible, I would like to temporarily unsubscribe if there is a
way to do this.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Shelly




Re: food delivery apps

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Troy,

I use Door Dash.  The service is very good although the mark up is quite significant.  You do the ordering through the app itself or if you like from the website itself. The Door Dash website is quite accessible.

Some restaurants use just one of these services and others use more than one.  The delivery fee and the dasher tip (driver tip for other apps) is indeed separate.  This can result in a large mark up--somewhere around 15 or 20 percent in some cases.

With Door Dash, they have a dash pass feature where you pay $9.99 monthly and for those restaurants that accept it the delivery fee is waved.  That's the problem.  In my area only about 20% of the restaurants accept the dash pass feature.

If it is a cold or stormy day and you can't get out to fetch the food yourself and if one of your favorite restaurants does not deliver, then the service is worth it. My experience is only with Door Dash.  I downloaded and installed Grub Hub, but when I looked at the comments on their page, most of them were negative and I have been reluctant to order anything with Grub Hub app.  Both the Door Dash and Grub Hub apps are very accessible.

For all of the food delivery apps, you have to register through the app or the website and this includes linking your account to a payment method: debit card, credit card or whatever.

On 1/18/2020 7:46 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,

I have waiter, grub hub, favor, and door dash all on my phone and they all seem accessible but I wonder if anybody has used any of these and can comment on how they work?

I've never used any of these myself but in just opening them and looking at them I see that favor shows the delivery fee for each restaurant, do the rest of them do the same thing? It appears that I have to register on the other 3 apps I mentioned besides favor and I haven't done that yet.

Is a tip expected over and above the delivery fee or is the delivery fee considered the tip? Do some restaurants use more than one delivery service or do they all just use one and there's no choice? Oh, and do I call the restaurant to make the order and then tell them I want it delivered or do I make the order through the app in some way?

Anything anybody can tell me will be greatly appreciated.

Troy



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: question about temporarily unsubscribing

Shelly Kane
 

Gene:


Thank you so much.  I will be gone for a week and didn't want to come back with a cluttered in-box.  I greatly appreciate your help.

Shelly

On 1/18/2020 1:24 PM, Gene wrote:
Its much better to go nomail.  If you have a fully setup account, you can do this with a browser as a general setting.  If not, you can do it group by group.
 
To go nomail for this group, you would send a blank e-mail to this address:
To resume delivery, send a blank e-mail to
 
If you want to resume delivery as a digest, there are other commands but I assume you want single message delivery.
 
The same syntax isw used with other Groups.io groups.  Name of group plus etc.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 4:05 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] question about temporarily unsubscribing
 
        Hi Group:


I'm going on vacation tomorrow and I was wondering if there is a way to
unsubscribe from the lists I am on until I get back?  I will be gone for
a week and I get a load of mail per day and won't be able to check it. 
So if possible, I would like to temporarily unsubscribe if there is a
way to do this.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Shelly




Finding a replacement battery for a Plextalk 2 or PTN 2?

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hi List, Might any of you know where a replacement battery for the discontinued Plextalk 2 or PTN 2 can be bought?

 

Thanks much for any help!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


A Plextalk 2 recording question?

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hello List, I am just starting out with a Plextalk 2 or PTN 2.  I have listened to the manual, but am still in the dark as to how I actually record on it.  It has no actual record button.  I see that I can create a new title, but once that is done, how do I start it recording?

 

Perhaps, it can see that I do not have a blank SD card in it and so the option is not given?

 

Any help will be gratefully received!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Re: Computer for the Blind Correct URL

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

Thank you, Mike.

Jan


Computer for the Blind Correct URL

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
That URL I posted for the Computers for the Blind website earlier today was not good.  Sorry, but I thought I had the latest, but the correct URL is below.
 

Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused for any of you.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: windows 7 in general.

Gene
 

I consider any information as to prices or what are the latest highest standards in technology as far as performance and perhaps other matters I haven’t thought of while writing that is over six months old to be possibly wrong.  Things change very quickly regarding technology.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
Okay; I didn’t know the prices had gone up, since they stayed the same for so long.  So, I don’t know when they went up.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
How long ago was that?  Here is a quote from the application page:
To apply for a computer we have a processing fee of $130 for a desktop, and $185 for a laptop,
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
Last I knew, the laptops were about $125 or $150.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: win7 security software?

Gene
 

MSEE will continue to receive updates for Windows 7 users. If that is your concern, you need do nothing.  If you want to take other precautions, I don’t know how much it costs nor who will provide the service, but one or more companies, maybe Microsoft among them, is providing updates if you pay for the service.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:51 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] win7 security software?
 
hello all,
as certainly for the foreseeable, I plan to continue using win7, now that no more security updates will be forthcoming, I think I need to find some other security software to keep my machine hopefully protected from hacking, viruses, spy and malware, etc.
such software would need to be fully accessible, preferably with window-eyes, or if not, definitely with NVDA.
if possible it also shouldn't get in the way of the programs I already use which access the internet for what ever reason.
any ideas please?
as previously I have relied on MS security essentials and windows security updates, so haven't really had to think about this before.
I am not bothered if the software is free or paid, the major priorities here, are that it does the job, does it well, is accessible, and hopefully continues to do the job well and accessibly.
 
Simon
 
 


Re: windows 7 in general.

Pamela Dominguez
 

Okay; I didn’t know the prices had gone up, since they stayed the same for so long.  So, I don’t know when they went up.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
How long ago was that?  Here is a quote from the application page:
To apply for a computer we have a processing fee of $130 for a desktop, and $185 for a laptop,
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
Last I knew, the laptops were about $125 or $150.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: windows 7 in general.

Gene
 

How long ago was that?  Here is a quote from the application page:
To apply for a computer we have a processing fee of $130 for a desktop, and $185 for a laptop,
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
Last I knew, the laptops were about $125 or $150.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



avoiding columns

Joe Giovanelli
 

Hello, Everyone,

I do a lot of optical scanning; I use Docuscan Plus.

Often plays or skits are written in sujch a way that the character name and the first word of what he says is separated far enough that Docuscvan thinks that it's a column.

What I see, therefore, are the names of characters, and they are followed by what the people say. At that point we read what should be said but without the name of the person speaking the line.

I have to find all of this and then type in the names before the words to be read.

Is there a way to instruct Docuscvan to ignore column breaks?

I'm asking this here because System Access does not have the best customer support.

I appreciate any help with this.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


win7 security software?

goshawk on horseback
 

hello all,
as certainly for the foreseeable, I plan to continue using win7, now that no more security updates will be forthcoming, I think I need to find some other security software to keep my machine hopefully protected from hacking, viruses, spy and malware, etc.
such software would need to be fully accessible, preferably with window-eyes, or if not, definitely with NVDA.
if possible it also shouldn't get in the way of the programs I already use which access the internet for what ever reason.
any ideas please?
as previously I have relied on MS security essentials and windows security updates, so haven't really had to think about this before.
I am not bothered if the software is free or paid, the major priorities here, are that it does the job, does it well, is accessible, and hopefully continues to do the job well and accessibly.
 
Simon
 
 


Re: windows 7 in general.

Pamela Dominguez
 

Last I knew, the laptops were about $125 or $150.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: windows 7 in general.

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

That is understandable. I can handle $180. I will check it out. They might be double the desktops. Thanks for letting me know.

Jan


food delivery apps

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I have waiter, grub hub, favor, and door dash all on my phone and they all seem accessible but I wonder if anybody has used any of these and can comment on how they work?

I've never used any of these myself but in just opening them and looking at them I see that favor shows the delivery fee for each restaurant, do the rest of them do the same thing? It appears that I have to register on the other 3 apps I mentioned besides favor and I haven't done that yet.

Is a tip expected over and above the delivery fee or is the delivery fee considered the tip? Do some restaurants use more than one delivery service or do they all just use one and there's no choice? Oh, and do I call the restaurant to make the order and then tell them I want it delivered or do I make the order through the app in some way?

Anything anybody can tell me will be greatly appreciated.

Troy


Re: windows 7 in general.

Gene
 

I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: windows 7 in general.

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

Thank you very much, Mike. I will browse the website. I can call them during the week. I really appreciate that.

Jan


Re: windows 7 in general.

Mike B
 

Hi Jan,
 
Here's the contact info for Computers for the Blind:

Phone#:  1-214-340-6328
 
Email:  info@...
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.

I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h