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Re: the VIP thermostat

M.E.N. <magpie.mn@...>
 

I have used a VIP thermostat both when I lived in Oregon and now here in Nevada and never had a problem even remotely like this.
I hope you know there are two types of thermostat, one for regular furnace/ac unit and another for heat pumps. I don't know if that might be your problem but just a suggestion.
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 7:44 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] the VIP thermostat

Hi all,

I bought a new VIP thermostat I think in late 2018, and I even had it
replaced a little later but both thermostats have done the same thing
and I was wondering if anybody else has experienced this. When the air
conditioner is being used everything seems to be okay, but with the heat
we may have the thermostat set on 75 degrees but when the unit comes on
when it gets below 75 it won't go back off until the thermostat
registers several degrees above 75. It usually doesn't feel as warm as
the thermostat claims but at times the unit stays on longer than it
seems like it would need to, and at other times we can turn the heat on
and 10 or 20 seconds later the thermostat clicks signifying the unit is
turning off. It has to be the thermostat causing this problem because we
just had the AC/heating unit changed last summer. Btw it's an electric
central system. Has anybody else experienced this behavior with the VIP?

Thanks.

Troy


Re: the VIP thermostat

James Bentley
 

hi,

I GOT A NEW VIP 3000 12 days ago for my electric heating and air. The AC worked fine. The heat wouldn't shut off until the room temp reach 4 to 9 degrees above what it was set at. For example, if I set the heat to 75, it would sometimes heat up to 84 before shutting down the heat.

I sent the piece of junk back. It’s a great idea if they get the bugs out before they start selling the device to customers. Especially since it cost $300 bucks.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:45 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] the VIP thermostat

Hi all,

I bought a new VIP thermostat I think in late 2018, and I even had it
replaced a little later but both thermostats have done the same thing
and I was wondering if anybody else has experienced this. When the air
conditioner is being used everything seems to be okay, but with the heat
we may have the thermostat set on 75 degrees but when the unit comes on
when it gets below 75 it won't go back off until the thermostat
registers several degrees above 75. It usually doesn't feel as warm as
the thermostat claims but at times the unit stays on longer than it
seems like it would need to, and at other times we can turn the heat on
and 10 or 20 seconds later the thermostat clicks signifying the unit is
turning off. It has to be the thermostat causing this problem because we
just had the AC/heating unit changed last summer. Btw it's an electric
central system. Has anybody else experienced this behavior with the VIP?

Thanks.

Troy


the VIP thermostat

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I bought a new VIP thermostat I think in late 2018, and I even had it replaced a little later but both thermostats have done the same thing and I was wondering if anybody else has experienced this. When the air conditioner is being used everything seems to be okay, but with the heat we may have the thermostat set on 75 degrees but when the unit comes on when it gets below 75 it won't go back off until the thermostat registers several degrees above 75. It usually doesn't feel as warm as the thermostat claims but at times the unit stays on longer than it seems like it would need to, and at other times we can turn the heat on and 10 or 20 seconds later the thermostat clicks signifying the unit is turning off. It has to be the thermostat causing this problem because we just had the AC/heating unit changed last summer. Btw it's an electric central system. Has anybody else experienced this behavior with the VIP?

Thanks.

Troy


Re: groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

Steve Matzura
 

It used to be all collapsed, which was a nice compact view. Now it's all wide open. I'll figure it out, no need to trouble yourself. Thanks for the offer though.


On 1/28/2020 10:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Groups.io shows the your groups screen when you log in.  I'm not sure where you want to be so I'm not sure how to direct you.  But at the top of the page is a button for general navigation in the site.  If you activate it, you will see items.
At the bottom of the page is a button that shows you options for working with your groups and perhaps other things that I don't recall now.  I can look to give you more information if you want it, but if you activate these buttons and look at what opens, that may allow you to get to the places you want.  Increasingly, sites use buttons to expand collapsed parts of pages.  Web pages increasingly don't show all their content just by opening them.
 
Gene


This week on Eyes On Success: Free Music Reader App from Sao Mai

blueskies11
 

This week’s episode of Eyes On Success is:

2005 Free Music Reader App from Sao Mai (Jan. 29, 2020)
Show Notes
The SM Music Reader is a free Android app that enables the visually impaired to access music scores imported onto their devices. Hosts Nancy and Peter Torpey talk with Dang Hoai Phuc, executive director of the Sao Mai Center for the Blind in Vietnam, about the app and how it can be used to read and listen to complex musical scores.

 

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Left-handed keyboard/was RE: [TechTalk] Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Mike, FYI I have a left handed keyboard. It’s old enough that it is not USB but I found it very useful when a physical problem kind of forced me into it. If it were USB I might still be using it. I’m sure left-hhanded USB keyboards are available, I just haven’t looked. Best, Norma

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Repetitive motion strain anyone?

 

Vicky,

 

If you use a regular USB powered mouse just plug it in and start clicking away.  Personally I've never heard of a left handed mouse.  But, if you're trying to say a keyboard with the number pad on the left side, well that's a whole different animal and this I haven't heard of as a keyboard option.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 8:24 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Repetitive motion strain anyone?

 

Hi List, Have any of you been finding that your right hand and a bit up into your right wrist gets sore during the day from all the Num Pad use for your screen reader?

 

I do and it has me concerned about developing carpal tunnel. 

 

I’ve thought about getting a left-handed mouse, but have no idea how you can get my Windows 10 computer to accept it along with the regular desk top keyboard with its Num Pad.

 

Have any of you experienced this and how have you solved it?

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Re: Repetitive motion strain anyone?

wayne
 

If you want to switch or change which hand is using the num pad, this solution is very easy. You can actually have 2 keyboards hooked up to your computer at the same time, and that way if you had the keyboards side by side, they will both be active at the same time. Therefore you can use the numpad on one and all the other keys on the other one, of course that includes  the num pad. The keyboards don't have to be identical or the same brand.
 
Wayne
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 8:24 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Hi List, Have any of you been finding that your right hand and a bit up into your right wrist gets sore during the day from all the Num Pad use for your screen reader?

 

I do and it has me concerned about developing carpal tunnel. 

 

I’ve thought about getting a left-handed mouse, but have no idea how you can get my Windows 10 computer to accept it along with the regular desk top keyboard with its Num Pad.

 

Have any of you experienced this and how have you solved it?

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Re: Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Gene
 

I should add that, while I specifically addressed NVDA in my message, with some modifications, my comments could apply to JAWS and they might to other screen-readers. I specifically discussed NVDA because I didn't pay attention to the to line and I thought it was addressed to the NVDA list, which it isn't.  But having said that, there is a laptop layout for JAWS and there may be ways to do whatever is causing irritation, or a lot of it that won't or won't nearly as much if you want to stay in the desktop layout.  If you tell us which commands you believe are causing a good deal of the problems, we might be able to address those. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:24 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Hi List, Have any of you been finding that your right hand and a bit up into your right wrist gets sore during the day from all the Num Pad use for your screen reader?

 

I do and it has me concerned about developing carpal tunnel. 

 

I’ve thought about getting a left-handed mouse, but have no idea how you can get my Windows 10 computer to accept it along with the regular desk top keyboard with its Num Pad.

 

Have any of you experienced this and how have you solved it?

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Re: Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Gene
 

What do you use the numpad for?  Perhaps there are ways not to use it so much or in the same ways.  For example, I intensely dislike numpad down arrow for, using down arrow on the main keyboard for read to end.  I find it awkward using either insert and the down arrow either with the same hand or using two hands.  I solve the problem by using capslock down arrow so I use the left hand for the caps lock and the right hand, one finger of the right hand, to press down arrow.  You might learn the laptop layout, which eliminates use of the numpad entirely, since it is intended for computers that don't have one. 
 
Or, if you use the numpad for one specific purpose that causes irritation, you might find a way not to use it for that one purpose if you want to use the desktop layout.  for example, let's say you use a combination of keys to do something in object navigation and you do so very often.  You might be able to navigate to the same place using screen review, which might use commands that don't cause irritation and still you might remain in the desktop keyboard layout. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:24 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Hi List, Have any of you been finding that your right hand and a bit up into your right wrist gets sore during the day from all the Num Pad use for your screen reader?

 

I do and it has me concerned about developing carpal tunnel. 

 

I’ve thought about getting a left-handed mouse, but have no idea how you can get my Windows 10 computer to accept it along with the regular desk top keyboard with its Num Pad.

 

Have any of you experienced this and how have you solved it?

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Re: Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Mike B
 

Vicky,
 
If you use a regular USB powered mouse just plug it in and start clicking away.  Personally I've never heard of a left handed mouse.  But, if you're trying to say a keyboard with the number pad on the left side, well that's a whole different animal and this I haven't heard of as a keyboard option.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 8:24 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Hi List, Have any of you been finding that your right hand and a bit up into your right wrist gets sore during the day from all the Num Pad use for your screen reader?

 

I do and it has me concerned about developing carpal tunnel. 

 

I’ve thought about getting a left-handed mouse, but have no idea how you can get my Windows 10 computer to accept it along with the regular desk top keyboard with its Num Pad.

 

Have any of you experienced this and how have you solved it?

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Re: Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Penny Golden
 

I haven't. but you might look into a gentle wrap for your wrist.  or check into what aleexa or wiki how has to say about treating carpel tunnel symptoms at home.

Just a thought.



On 1/28/2020 10:24 PM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Hi List, Have any of you been finding that your right hand and a bit up into your right wrist gets sore during the day from all the Num Pad use for your screen reader?

 

I do and it has me concerned about developing carpal tunnel. 

 

I’ve thought about getting a left-handed mouse, but have no idea how you can get my Windows 10 computer to accept it along with the regular desk top keyboard with its Num Pad.

 

Have any of you experienced this and how have you solved it?

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 



Repetitive motion strain anyone?

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hi List, Have any of you been finding that your right hand and a bit up into your right wrist gets sore during the day from all the Num Pad use for your screen reader?

 

I do and it has me concerned about developing carpal tunnel. 

 

I’ve thought about getting a left-handed mouse, but have no idea how you can get my Windows 10 computer to accept it along with the regular desk top keyboard with its Num Pad.

 

Have any of you experienced this and how have you solved it?

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


Re: JAWS Versus NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Abbie,

Others have fairly thoroughly answered most of your questions (if they haven't, please do comment again), but I wanted to pick up a couple of points:

- Compatibility with 2019.3: We are aware this is a bit of a bumpy release, and that's the reason why we never rushed it out.  As noted, you can ignore updates to add-ons which will be incompatible, and if you let us know which voices you use, I'm sure you can get an answer on their compatibility.  To my knowledge, all the main third party synthesizers have updated for NVDA 2019.3.  I am not sure if they're all available to download yet, but as you note, they won't be backward compatible so you won't want them until you download the beta / RC or the final 2019.3 when it comes out.

- "it's free and you get what you pay for".  I would definitely disagree with this, not least of which because all the concerns you have raised are about one specific update which should be finalised shortly.  If everyone switched operating systems because of one update that was a bit bumpy.... well lets just say Windows 10 probably wouldn't have the market share it does now :)

We have chosen to follow a revenue model which doesn't place the burden of cost all on the users.  I would argue that is completely separate from our software's quality assurance, which we believe is very high, (we are, of course, always open to feedback on where we can improve).

Feel free to try out other options and in the end use whichever product(s) work best for you.  I just want to emphasise that quality is not tied to price.

All the best

Quentin.

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 9:44 AM Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...> wrote:
I've been using NVDA for a couple of years, but I'm wondering if it's time for a switch. Lately, the software update process has been driving me up the wall. Apparently, the latest version, due out soon, will not be compatible with some of the software's add-ons, including the text-to-speech voices I use. This is no big deal because there are other voices that will work. But I've purchased some I really like that may not work with the new version of NVDA, at least not right away.
 
Another annoyance NVDA users are experiencing is add-on updates that are only compatible with the new version of NVDA, which isn't out yet. To me, it would make more sense to wait until the new version is released before releasing the add-on updates. But what do I know? I'm not a software developer.
 
I realize that NVDA is free, and I'm getting what I pay for. I recently read that Jaws costs only $90.00 a year for a subscription, which includes several licenses. So, I'm wondering if it's worth that much.
 
Those of you who use Jaws, what are the pros and cons? If you've used NVDA and are now using Jaws, do you think it's better? Is there a demo I can try before I buy? Thanks in advance for any input, and happy computing. 
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Re: groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

Gene
 

Groups.io shows the your groups screen when you log in.  I'm not sure where you want to be so I'm not sure how to direct you.  But at the top of the page is a button for general navigation in the site.  If you activate it, you will see items.
At the bottom of the page is a button that shows you options for working with your groups and perhaps other things that I don't recall now.  I can look to give you more information if you want it, but if you activate these buttons and look at what opens, that may allow you to get to the places you want.  Increasingly, sites use buttons to expand collapsed parts of pages.  Web pages increasingly don't show all their content just by opening them.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 8:55 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see
a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page
called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located
on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make
this happen, or is that just the way things are now?




Re: Navigating Links in Outlook with JAWS

Gene
 

Press the numpad slash, the left click in the JAWS cursor instead of using enter on links.  But don't go into JAWS mode.  Stay in the virtual pc cursor.  This works around a bug in JAWS.  I don't know why it does but it does.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:28 PM
To: Talk
Subject: [TechTalk] Navigating Links in Outlook with JAWS

I subscribe to this and other lists on groups.io in daily summary mode. This means I receive one message per day with links to messages posted the previous day. While navigating such a message with JAWS, when I press Enter on a link, I end up on a page other than the one I wanted. This happens no matter whether I’m navigating with the down arrow or Tab key. I don’t have this issue with NVDA. So, is there a trick to navigating links in Outlook with JAWS? I’m not finding any information in the help files on this. So, I’d appreciate any ideas anyone has.

 

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 

 

 


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Re: groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

It's probably because the people that are posting or moderated. And no, everything is discussed live with the developer. And everybody puts their two cents in, and then they help him tweak it if they see any problems.

On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:

Good idea, but they probably talk about a lot of thing that never make it into production. I'm only interested in what goes live.


P.S.: Are they having a bad day over there or something: I posted messages over seven hours ago that are just now coming through and getting onto the lists to which they were posted.


On 1/28/2020 10:02 PM, joseph hudson wrote:
This is a change that was just recently made. If you want to know about all the changes that are made I suggest looking at the beta group.
On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make this happen, or is that just the way things are now?




Re: groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

Steve Matzura
 

Good idea, but they probably talk about a lot of thing that never make it into production. I'm only interested in what goes live.


P.S.: Are they having a bad day over there or something: I posted messages over seven hours ago that are just now coming through and getting onto the lists to which they were posted.

On 1/28/2020 10:02 PM, joseph hudson wrote:
This is a change that was just recently made. If you want to know about all the changes that are made I suggest looking at the beta group.
On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make this happen, or is that just the way things are now?




Re: groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

This is a change that was just recently made. If you want to know about all the changes that are made I suggest looking at the beta group.

On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make this happen, or is that just the way things are now?




groups.io Has Changed Their Login Screen

Steve Matzura
 

It used to be that I would log in and at the top of the page I would see a collapsed item called "Your groups." Now, I log in and see a page called "Subscriptions," with each group to which I am subscribed located on what is seemingly their new home page. Did I do something to make this happen, or is that just the way things are now?


Navigating Links in Outlook with JAWS

Abbie Taylor
 

I subscribe to this and other lists on groups.io in daily summary mode. This means I receive one message per day with links to messages posted the previous day. While navigating such a message with JAWS, when I press Enter on a link, I end up on a page other than the one I wanted. This happens no matter whether I’m navigating with the down arrow or Tab key. I don’t have this issue with NVDA. So, is there a trick to navigating links in Outlook with JAWS? I’m not finding any information in the help files on this. So, I’d appreciate any ideas anyone has.

 

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 

 

 


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