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Bluetooth keyboard buying help?

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi

My folding pluggable Bluetooth keyboard fro atguys.com wore out and I need to buy a new one.

I think I want to get one from amazon. What is a good Bluetooth keyboard? I do a lot of typing, use it mostly on my lap in a chair with my phone or iPad. And also with any keyboards you may recommend, what are its Bluetooth pairing instructions?

 

Thanks,

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Thunderbird and Conversation/Threading

Donald Roberts
 

Ron, This is my one major gripe about Thunderbird.  Well, there is one more.  Whenever you use Thunderbird to forward an email which contains embedded links, those links do not show correctly.  Le me know if you need examples, and I will forward something.


Don Roberts


On 4/16/2020 7:33 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I have asked this a number of times on various technical lists and I have never gotten an answer.  Because these lists change membership a lot, I thought I would ask again.

With Windows 95 mail, outlook Express and Windows Mail for Windows 7, 8, when you grouped messages by conversation, all the messages that had the same subject line including those with the reply label as in Re: were grouped into one thread.  This was absolute--no exceptions.  With Thunderbird--since I started using it in Windows 7 years ago, particularly if there are a large number of messages in the conversation/thread, they always seem to get split up some way. By this I mean that for example, if you have a message with a subject line of 'Thunderbird Information' and if 14 people reply directly to that message as in 14 replies with the subject line of 'Re: Thunderbird Information', most often, I will get something like 6 messages in one thred and then the rest maybe 8 or 9 in another group.

I wonder just why this always happens.  Does anyone else experience this and if so, is there some setting I have missed all these years that could be changed so that they grouped properly as they did in Windows mail programs?  Thanks for any help.


Trying to batch delete overwhelming number of duplicate Google calendar events

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So, I have this problem with my Google Calendar. For some reason and I don’t know how, I’ve got a couple of recurring events that have duplicated themselves to the point where simply going in and deleting one by one isn’t feasible. One recurring event has roughly 1600 occurrences and the other over 1700. These are monthly, so you can imagine the frustration having to navigate past this amount of duplicate appointments every month. It’s also to the point where the sheer size of my calendar is crashing the calendar app on my iPhone and it makes the webpage on the PC load super slow.

Poking around online, there doesn’t seem to be a way to batch delete an entire day of events or so many recurring ones. It’s suggested to export the calendar and import it into a separate calendar service like Outlook or Yahoo and clean it up there.

I can import into Outlook 2016 fine, but my question is since I haven’t tried this before and haven’t found right away how to do it is how can I go about deleting such a large number of events in the Outlook calendar with Jaws?

If anyone knows how to batch delete recurring events in Outlook or knows how to do it in Google calendar directly, I’d appreciate the heads up.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Keurig single cup coffee maker

Fred Adams
 

Do any of you list members use the Keurig single cup coffee maker and if so,
do you ever use the reusable coffee pod? Do the reusable coffee pod require
a special grind? I have tried several times to use the reusable coffee pod
to make coffee using Folgers classic regular grind and it never turns out
very well. I also tried making coffee with the filter and without the
filter and results are pretty much the same. I would appreciate any info or
suggestions.
Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY ABN RET
ETERNITY ETERNITY AVERY LONG TIME


transferring playlist items from Apple Music to YouTube or Google play music

Beth
 

Hi all, this is Beth here. I prepared a playlist, about five hours of music on Apple Music, but there was a problem with playing it on a certain Amazon skill, which skips a bunch of songs and only plays twenty songs at a time. That would be the apple music skill. I’m curious as to how I could quickly and accessibly transfer all that apple music stuff to YouTube music or google play music, which I’m subscribed to both. I don’t think manually transferring and translating the songs should happen, there are over fifty songs inn my select playlist. So that would be tedious and hours of work. So what are you all’s ideas? I would want to be able to transfer the apple music playlist to youtube music or google so we can easily play it on a home speaker, and no we won’t be purchasing a not so impressive home pod. We already have google and amazon speakers, and we’re considering other options should this not work.
Thanks all in advance for your ideas.
Beth

Sent from my iPhone with iOS 13


Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

Again, JAWS doesn’t use the numpad when using the application cursor, in other words when not using the JAWS cursor or the Touch Cursor.  The numpad does what it would do if JAWS is used or if no screen-reader is used.  Numpad 8 does the same thing as the nain keyboard up arrow.  Numpad 2 does the same thing as the main keyboard down arrow.  And that is true, as I said in mhy last message, unless another program you are using and in the window of uses the numpad for other purposes.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 
With JAWS, the Say All command works with either down arrow. Read a line does too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:46 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Hi Walter,
>
> NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
> already provides that functionality.  Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go
> back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word.  Does
> Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that?  I can
> update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is
> covered.  For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:
>
> LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character UP / DOWN
> ARROW - move up or down by one line HOME - move to the start of the
> current line END - move to the end of the current line
> CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one
> CONTROL+word UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by
> CONTROL+paragraph (that
> doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time
> you press ENTER as a paragraph).
> PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of
> information
> CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
> programs like Word which define a page)
> CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document END - move to
> CONTROL+the bottom or end of a document
>
> The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and
> it will select text as well while it moves.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
> blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi.  I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off.  Things
>> are looking a little better since I've had help from this list.  It
>> has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.
>>
>>
>>
>> One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word.  In Jaws insert/right
>> arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read
>> word by word backwards.  just pressing left arrow will move forward
>> character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.
>>
>>
>>
>> In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing
>> the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
>> insert/left or right arrow.  I'm not sure if NNVDA does this.  I've
>> pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken.  Is
>> this feature absent from NVDA?  If NVDA does have this feature then
>> where do I go to find it.  I don't want to spend a long frustrating
>> period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist.  With
>> thanks.  Walter.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
>> Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
>> *Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
>> *To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Walter,
>>
>>
>>
>> There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you
>> have NVDA setup.  So first:
>>
>>
>>
>> - You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
>> CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key.  Note if you
>> use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> - You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
>> Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for
>> NVDA commands.  Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to
>> other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
>> NVDA+L
>> in laptop layout.
>>
>>
>>
>> To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
>> layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.
>>
>>
>>
>> As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow
>> keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
>> switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
>> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNV
>> DA
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>
>> If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> ----- Oribginal Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Gene <gsasner@...>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM
>>
>> *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for
>> screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you
>> changed it, let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do,
>> you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are
>> using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for
>> read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an
>> NVDA key, let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr@...>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM
>>
>> *To:* techtalk@groups.io
>>
>> *Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a
>> little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like
>> some help with something.
>>
>>
>>
>> In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To
>> read all, insert and down arrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read
>> current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.
>>
>>
>>
>> I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with
>> the announcement "blank."
>>
>>
>>
>> How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert
>> down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help
>> appreciated, thank you.  Walter.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm
>> _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
>>
>> Virus-free. www.avast.com
>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm
>> _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>>
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>>
>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>>
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>
>
>
>








Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

In JAWS, since the numpad isn’t used for other purposes, it does what it does by default, unless another program being used uses it for something.  When you move by word, you are using the numpad to do what it would do with or without JAWS running.  But you can move by word using standard windows commands.  Control left and right arrow moves by word.  And this is also a Windows command, which does the same thing whether a screen-reader is being used or not.
 
Gene
----- Original Message =-----

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 
With JAWS, word navigation can be done on Num Lock Pad with Jaws Key and respective arrow, but not on the standard arrows. With the standard left and right arrows, arrows, it goes one character at a time. I'm trying this stuff, as discussed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:46 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Hi Walter,
>
> NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
> already provides that functionality.  Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go
> back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word.  Does
> Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that?  I can
> update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is
> covered.  For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:
>
> LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character UP / DOWN
> ARROW - move up or down by one line HOME - move to the start of the
> current line END - move to the end of the current line
> CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one
> CONTROL+word UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by
> CONTROL+paragraph (that
> doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time
> you press ENTER as a paragraph).
> PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of
> information
> CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
> programs like Word which define a page)
> CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document END - move to
> CONTROL+the bottom or end of a document
>
> The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and
> it will select text as well while it moves.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
> blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi.  I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off.  Things
>> are looking a little better since I've had help from this list.  It
>> has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.
>>
>>
>>
>> One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word.  In Jaws insert/right
>> arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read
>> word by word backwards.  just pressing left arrow will move forward
>> character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.
>>
>>
>>
>> In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing
>> the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
>> insert/left or right arrow.  I'm not sure if NNVDA does this.  I've
>> pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken.  Is
>> this feature absent from NVDA?  If NVDA does have this feature then
>> where do I go to find it.  I don't want to spend a long frustrating
>> period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist.  With
>> thanks.  Walter.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
>> Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
>> *Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
>> *To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Walter,
>>
>>
>>
>> There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you
>> have NVDA setup.  So first:
>>
>>
>>
>> - You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
>> CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key.  Note if you
>> use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> - You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
>> Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for
>> NVDA commands.  Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to
>> other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
>> NVDA+L
>> in laptop layout.
>>
>>
>>
>> To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
>> layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.
>>
>>
>>
>> As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow
>> keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
>> switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
>> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNV
>> DA
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>
>> If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> ----- Oribginal Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Gene <gsasner@...>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM
>>
>> *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for
>> screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you
>> changed it, let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do,
>> you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are
>> using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for
>> read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an
>> NVDA key, let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr@...>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM
>>
>> *To:* techtalk@groups.io
>>
>> *Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a
>> little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like
>> some help with something.
>>
>>
>>
>> In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To
>> read all, insert and down arrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read
>> current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.
>>
>>
>>
>> I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with
>> the announcement "blank."
>>
>>
>>
>> How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert
>> down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help
>> appreciated, thank you.  Walter.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm
>> _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
>>
>> Virus-free. www.avast.com
>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm
>> _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>>
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>>
>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>>
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>
>
>
>








Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Carolyn Arnold
 

With JAWS, the Say All command works with either down arrow. Read a line does too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:46 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Walter,

NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
already provides that functionality. Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go
back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word. Does
Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that? I can
update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is
covered. For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:

LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character UP / DOWN
ARROW - move up or down by one line HOME - move to the start of the
current line END - move to the end of the current line
CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one
CONTROL+word UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by
CONTROL+paragraph (that
doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time
you press ENTER as a paragraph).
PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of
information
CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
programs like Word which define a page)
CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document END - move to
CONTROL+the bottom or end of a document

The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and
it will select text as well while it moves.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi. I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off. Things
are looking a little better since I've had help from this list. It
has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.



One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word. In Jaws insert/right
arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read
word by word backwards. just pressing left arrow will move forward
character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.



In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing
the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
insert/left or right arrow. I'm not sure if NNVDA does this. I've
pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken. Is
this feature absent from NVDA? If NVDA does have this feature then
where do I go to find it. I don't want to spend a long frustrating
period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist. With
thanks. Walter.



*From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
*To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi Walter,



There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you
have NVDA setup. So first:



- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key. Note if you
use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.



- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for
NVDA commands. Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to
other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.



So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
NVDA+L
in laptop layout.



To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.



As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow
keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.



Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNV
DA



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.



Gene

----- Oribginal Message -----

*From:* Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



You can’t use insert numpad down arrow. NVDA reserves the numpad for
screen review. Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.



I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout. If you
changed it, let us know.



Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key. If you do,
you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are
using the desktop layout. I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.



But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for
read to end. If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an
NVDA key, let us know.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

*To:* techtalk@groups.io

*Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi folks. I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a
little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like
some help with something.



In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow. To
read all, insert and down arrow.



Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read
current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.



I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with
the announcement "blank."



How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert
down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent. Help
appreciated, thank you. Walter.



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Please Help: Problems with SD Card

Joe Orozco
 

I’m having an issue with my SD card where I can copy items to it, but
when I eject the card from my PC, the items disappear. I’ve run the
repair tool. I’ve run CHKDSK from the CMD. It’s not reporting any
errors. The items that are already on the card are still there and
play just fine on my Victor Stream. There is plenty of room, and the
SD card is not write protected. I fully accept the possibility that
the card could be corrupt, but I can’t figure out how this might be
the case when other files are still operational. Even when I play the
media files right after copying them onto the SD card works just fine.
It’s just ejecting the card that causes the new content to disappear.
Do you have any ideas on how I might fix this?

Thanks in advance,

Joe


Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Carolyn Arnold
 

With JAWS, word navigation can be done on Num Lock Pad with Jaws Key and respective arrow, but not on the standard arrows. With the standard left and right arrows, arrows, it goes one character at a time. I'm trying this stuff, as discussed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:46 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Walter,

NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
already provides that functionality. Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go
back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word. Does
Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that? I can
update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is
covered. For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:

LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character UP / DOWN
ARROW - move up or down by one line HOME - move to the start of the
current line END - move to the end of the current line
CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one
CONTROL+word UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by
CONTROL+paragraph (that
doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time
you press ENTER as a paragraph).
PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of
information
CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
programs like Word which define a page)
CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document END - move to
CONTROL+the bottom or end of a document

The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and
it will select text as well while it moves.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi. I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off. Things
are looking a little better since I've had help from this list. It
has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.



One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word. In Jaws insert/right
arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read
word by word backwards. just pressing left arrow will move forward
character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.



In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing
the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
insert/left or right arrow. I'm not sure if NNVDA does this. I've
pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken. Is
this feature absent from NVDA? If NVDA does have this feature then
where do I go to find it. I don't want to spend a long frustrating
period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist. With
thanks. Walter.



*From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
*To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi Walter,



There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you
have NVDA setup. So first:



- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key. Note if you
use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.



- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for
NVDA commands. Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to
other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.



So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
NVDA+L
in laptop layout.



To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.



As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow
keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.



Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNV
DA



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.



Gene

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*From:* Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



You can’t use insert numpad down arrow. NVDA reserves the numpad for
screen review. Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.



I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout. If you
changed it, let us know.



Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key. If you do,
you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are
using the desktop layout. I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.



But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for
read to end. If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an
NVDA key, let us know.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

*To:* techtalk@groups.io

*Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi folks. I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a
little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like
some help with something.



In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow. To
read all, insert and down arrow.



Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read
current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.



I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with
the announcement "blank."



How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert
down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent. Help
appreciated, thank you. Walter.



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Thunderbird and Conversation/Threading

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I have asked this a number of times on various technical lists and I have never gotten an answer.  Because these lists change membership a lot, I thought I would ask again.

With Windows 95 mail, outlook Express and Windows Mail for Windows 7, 8, when you grouped messages by conversation, all the messages that had the same subject line including those with the reply label as in Re: were grouped into one thread.  This was absolute--no exceptions.  With Thunderbird--since I started using it in Windows 7 years ago, particularly if there are a large number of messages in the conversation/thread, they always seem to get split up some way. By this I mean that for example, if you have a message with a subject line of 'Thunderbird Information' and if 14 people reply directly to that message as in 14 replies with the subject line of 'Re: Thunderbird Information', most often, I will get something like 6 messages in one thred and then the rest maybe 8 or 9 in another group.

I wonder just why this always happens.  Does anyone else experience this and if so, is there some setting I have missed all these years that could be changed so that they grouped properly as they did in Windows mail programs?  Thanks for any help.

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Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

Using default settings, you don’t have to route anythihng.  Using the commands I gave will read where you are.  If you are using screen-review, you may well not be in the right place, but using default settings, with object review being the default, you will be.
 
Gene
----- Original Mesage -----

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 
Hi Walter,

With the application cursor, just press control + left or right arrow to rread by word.  NVDA will voice the highlighted word.  Also, if you route review cursor to application cursor, you can use the numpad keys to move by line top row 7, 8,9, by word middle row, 4, 5, 6, and by character bottom row, 1, 2, 3.


On 4/16/2020 5:56 AM, Walter Ramage via groups.io wrote:

Hi.  I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off.  Things are looking a little better since I've had help from this list.  It has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.

 

One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word.  In Jaws insert/right arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read word by word backwards.  just pressing left arrow will move forward character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.

 

In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing insert/left or right arrow.  I'm not sure if NNVDA does this.  I've pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken.  Is this feature absent from NVDA?  If NVDA does have this feature then where do I go to find it.  I don't want to spend a long frustrating period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist.  With thanks.  Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 16 April 2020 00:36
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi Walter,

 

There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So first:

 

- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key.  Note if you use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.

 

- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".  Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for NVDA commands.  Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.

 

So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or NVDA+L in laptop layout.

 

To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.

 

As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.

 

Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced. 

 

Gene

----- Oribginal Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow. 

 

I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you changed it, let us know.

 

Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do, you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.

 

But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.

 

 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 


-- 
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Walter,

With the application cursor, just press control + left or right arrow to rread by word.  NVDA will voice the highlighted word.  Also, if you route review cursor to application cursor, you can use the numpad keys to move by line top row 7, 8,9, by word middle row, 4, 5, 6, and by character bottom row, 1, 2, 3.


On 4/16/2020 5:56 AM, Walter Ramage via groups.io wrote:

Hi.  I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off.  Things are looking a little better since I've had help from this list.  It has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.

 

One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word.  In Jaws insert/right arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read word by word backwards.  just pressing left arrow will move forward character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.

 

In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing insert/left or right arrow.  I'm not sure if NNVDA does this.  I've pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken.  Is this feature absent from NVDA?  If NVDA does have this feature then where do I go to find it.  I don't want to spend a long frustrating period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist.  With thanks.  Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 16 April 2020 00:36
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi Walter,

 

There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So first:

 

- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key.  Note if you use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.

 

- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".  Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for NVDA commands.  Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.

 

So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or NVDA+L in laptop layout.

 

To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.

 

As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.

 

Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced. 

 

Gene

----- Oribginal Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow. 

 

I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you changed it, let us know.

 

Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do, you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.

 

But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


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I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter Ramage
 

Hi. Thanks. I'll keep those commands. I've been using a computer and Jaws since 2003 and have never used the numpad in any serious way but there might come the day when I will have to. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 16 April 2020 12:59
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

I inadvertently overwrote the subject line. Here is my message in the
correct thread.

My webmail program, which I use off and on, sent my message when it
wasn't supposed to. Here is what I was attempting to say.

Its worth noting, however, that there are screen review commands for
read current line, word, and character, as well as previous and next.

I can't comment on them in the laptop layout, I don't use it. I often
find it more convenient to use these commands than move around in a
document or elsewhere and there are times you can't move around, to
read a line or look at words or characters individually using Windows
commands such as in a list or tree view.

By default, you are in object navigation, where you must be for these
commands to synchronize with whare you are working.
Read current line, numpad 8, not numpad NVDA key 8.
Read current word, numpad five.
Read current character, numpad 2.
Next in all cases is the numpad key to the right on the row you are
in, such as numpad 9 for next line, etc.
Previous is the key to the left of the current key, such as numpad 7
for read previous line.

Gene

On 4/16/20, Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Hi. Yes, I am using the desktop layout. When I launch NVDA then I have the
option in the dialogue to use the caps lock as the NVDA key but I haven't
done that yet. Walter.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 15 April 2020 23:44
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



You can’t use insert numpad down arrow. NVDA reserves the numpad for screen
review. Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.



I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout. If you changed it,
let us know.



Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key. If you do, you
will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the
desktop layout. I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.



But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to
end. If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us
know.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Walter Ramage via groups.io <mailto:wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

To: techtalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi folks. I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little
bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with
something.



In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow. To read all,
insert and down arrow.



Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line,
insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.



I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the
announcement "blank."



How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down
arrow reads all and every blank line is silent. Help appreciated, thank
you. Walter.




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you tube

Kerryn Gunness
 

am having trouble uploading to you tube
1 when i clicked choose file, i went through the process of selecting the file
2 from there i dont see upload button or publish button like before
3 also i dont see the video on my chanil
 
what is the issue there?
 
 


Re: smart television

Dragos Grecianu
 

Thanks for your answer, this means that my setup will work perfectly.

Thanks alot and cheers.

Angel

La 4/15/2020 9:42 PM, heather albright a scris:

Well, I have it plugged in to a usb hub that is plugged in to a back up supply. But, we have really crappy electrical issues here at the apartment complex! So in the abundance of caution I have all my electrical appliances on back up supplies that also have surge protectors built in! cheers Heather

 

From: Dragos Grecianu
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] smart television

 

Hey.

Thanks alot, this is the kind of setup that I always wanted.

The only thing that I don't understand is if I can power this box over usb or do I have to actualy get a bigger power strip?

I have a cool idea in mind on how this can work as a small, remote controlled fire pc.

:)

It can also be made portble if that runs from usb because I have a bluetooth speaker with an aux port, a 30000 mah battery that can power the stick and the convertor if it can be powerred from that and I can put them in a box to look like one product or something.

Thanks and best regards..

La 4/14/2020 10:50 PM, heather albright a scris:

Hello, I got my converter  box off amazon. I also got 3.5 head phone jack to connect my speakers to the converter box. Here is the link if you are looking for the same thing:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DFDQ6HG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So with the fire stick, plugg in the fire stick to the ac adaptor and than plugg it in to the converter box. So the 3.5 conector is for the set of speakers that go to the converter box. I thought 3.5 was better than relying on Bluetooth that  can lose connection and you are left with out audio till someone resets up the Bluetooth off the fire stick; a sighted assistant and than you have to have a visual screen to work that out. my speakers are usb powered  with a 3.5 connection. I plug my speakers in a usb hub to power them and use the 3.5 connector to connect to the converter box. So it works out great. Amazon accessibility cant seem to rap their brains over this one; they still cant believe a blind person can operate a firestick without a screen woe!  Now if only they had a remote control with usb powered speakers. Some times the audio gets louder depending on the app like you tube or amazon prime or netflix. So it would have been nice to control the audio with a remote control for the speakers. But, if you do have a smart tv, the fire stick 4.k remote is supposed to work on the tv to control the volume level. But, not worth the money it would cost like over100 dollars vurses the 50 dollars I spent on my set up. I bought my firestick when it was on sale for 15 dollars and the converter box was 22 dollars and the 3.5 connecter was 5 dollars; less than 50 dollars woe!  But if you want something more like the fire tv q, that has room for backing things up, you can use the same set up to do the same thing! Cheers Heather

 

From: Dragos Grecianu
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] smart television

 

    Hey.

Where did you get that converter box thing?

I want a fire stick, but I want to make mine audio only and portable if possible.

How small and how expensive is that device?

It sounds really cool.

Thanks and best regards.

La 4/13/2020 7:08 PM, heather albright a scris:

I use the firestick but, I do not have connected to a tv, I use a converter box and a set of speakers. I was reading about apple tv, seems they are at war with some tv content, I would check to make sure it meets your needs! Cheers Heather

 

From: Fanus
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] smart television

 

Hello list

From a blind person's perspective this may seem like a stupid question.

During this lock down I stream many of the metropolitan opera house operas.

It is quite a pain with my fairly old tv and laptop to stream and now I

examine all kinds of products because my wife is sighted and she enjoys the

shows and we did not realize there are so many things from youtube that one

can stream. I looked at specs for the Amazon fire 4K stick and cube, the

Google Chromecast ultra and the Apple tv but all of them have things that I

like and things that I would want in the device. I have read the Take

Control of Apple TV book and the writer asks what I want to ask year: is it

worth while to buy an apple tv if one can buy a smart television with

Airplay2 and the apple tv app built-in. Here in South Africa I can get such

a tv for not very much more than an Apple tv. So, is there someone who uses

a smart television with airplay and if so, is it a workable better option

for a blind person?

Regards

Fanus

,

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter Ramage
 

Hi.  Thank you, that is very helpful.  One feature Jaws has is to echo character or words or character & words or none.  It is a toggle and that command is insert +#2, that's #2 on the number row.  When set to none there is no keyboard echo as you type.  When set to character then you of course get the Character echo as you type.  When set to word you get no character echo until you press space after your word then the word you have just typed is repeated.

  When set to character & word you get the keyboard echo for the character and when you press space you also get the word you have just typed.  I have mine set to character only.  I don't know if NVDA has an equivalent but for me it doesn't really matter as I'm happy with character echo only.  Walter.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 16 April 2020 12:22
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi Walter,

 

5NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows already provides that functionality.  Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word.  Does Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that?  I can update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is covered.  For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:

 

LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character

UP / DOWN ARROW - move up or down by one line

HOME - move to the start of the current line

END - move to the end of the current line

CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one word

CONTROL+UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by paragraph (that doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time you press ENTER as a paragraph).

PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of information

CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in programs like Word which define a page)

CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document

CONTROL+END - move to the bottom or end of a document

 

The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and it will select text as well while it moves.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi.  I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off.  Things are looking a little better since I've had help from this list.  It has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.

 

One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word.  In Jaws insert/right arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read word by word backwards.  just pressing left arrow will move forward character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.

 

In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing insert/left or right arrow.  I'm not sure if NNVDA does this.  I've pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken.  Is this feature absent from NVDA?  If NVDA does have this feature then where do I go to find it.  I don't want to spend a long frustrating period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist.  With thanks.  Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 16 April 2020 00:36
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi Walter,

 

There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So first:

 

- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key.  Note if you use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.

 

- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".  Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for NVDA commands.  Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.

 

So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or NVDA+L in laptop layout.

 

To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.

 

As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.

 

Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced. 

 

Gene

----- Oribginal Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow. 

 

I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you changed it, let us know.

 

Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do, you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.

 

But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.


 

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Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

I inadvertently overwrote the subject line. Here is my message in the
correct thread.

My webmail program, which I use off and on, sent my message when it
wasn't supposed to. Here is what I was attempting to say.

Its worth noting, however, that there are screen review commands for
read current line, word, and character, as well as previous and next.

I can't comment on them in the laptop layout, I don't use it. I often
find it more convenient to use these commands than move around in a
document or elsewhere and there are times you can't move around, to
read a line or look at words or characters individually using Windows
commands such as in a list or tree view.

By default, you are in object navigation, where you must be for these
commands to synchronize with whare you are working.
Read current line, numpad 8, not numpad NVDA key 8.
Read current word, numpad five.
Read current character, numpad 2.
Next in all cases is the numpad key to the right on the row you are
in, such as numpad 9 for next line, etc.
Previous is the key to the left of the current key, such as numpad 7
for read previous line.

Gene

On 4/16/20, Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Hi. Yes, I am using the desktop layout. When I launch NVDA then I have the
option in the dialogue to use the caps lock as the NVDA key but I haven't
done that yet. Walter.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: 15 April 2020 23:44
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



You can’t use insert numpad down arrow. NVDA reserves the numpad for screen
review. Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.



I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout. If you changed it,
let us know.



Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key. If you do, you
will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the
desktop layout. I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.



But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to
end. If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us
know.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Walter Ramage via groups.io <mailto:wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

To: techtalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi folks. I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little
bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with
something.



In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow. To read all,
insert and down arrow.



Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line,
insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.



I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the
announcement "blank."



How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down
arrow reads all and every blank line is silent. Help appreciated, thank
you. Walter.




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Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

My webmail program, which I use off and on, sent my message when it
wasn't supposed to. Here is what I was attempting to say.

Its worth noting, however, that there are screen review commands for
read current line, word, and character, as well as previous and next.

I can't comment on them in the laptop layout, I don't use it. I often
find it more convenient to use these commands than move around in a
document or elsewhere and there are times you can't move around, to
read a line or look at words or characters individually using Windows
commands such as in a list or tree view.

By default, you are in object navigation, where you must be for these
commands to synchronize with whare you are working.
Read current line, numpad 8, not numpad NVDA key 8.
Read current word, numpad five.
Read current character, numpad 2.
Next in all cases is the numpad key to the right on the row you are
in, such as numpad 9 for next line, etc.
Previous is the key to the left of the current key, such as numpad 7
for read previous line.

Gene

On 4/16/20, Gene via groups.io <gsasner=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Walter,

NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
already provides that functionality. Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go back
one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word. Does Jaws have
other commands for navigating through text like that? I can update our
guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is covered. For what
it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:

LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character
UP / DOWN ARROW - move up or down by one line
HOME - move to the start of the current line
END - move to the end of the current line
CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one
word
CONTROL+UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by paragraph
(that
doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time you
press ENTER as a paragraph).
PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of information
CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
programs like Word which define a page)
CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document
CONTROL+END - move to the bottom or end of a document

The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and it
will select text as well while it moves.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi. I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off. Things are
looking a little better since I've had help from this list. It has
confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.



One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word. In Jaws insert/right
arrow
will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read word by
word
backwards. just pressing left arrow will move forward character by
character and left arrow the same but backwards.



In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing
the
left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
insert/left
or right arrow. I'm not sure if NNVDA does this. I've pressed
insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken. Is this feature
absent from NVDA? If NVDA does have this feature then where do I go to
find it. I don't want to spend a long frustrating period of time
looking
for a feature that doesn't exist. With thanks. Walter.



*From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
*To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi Walter,



There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you have
NVDA setup. So first:



- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
CAPS
LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key. Note if you use the
numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.



- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for NVDA
commands. Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to other keys
and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.



So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
NVDA+L
in laptop layout.



To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.



As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow
keys
(often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.



Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.



Gene

----- Oribginal Message -----

*From:* Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



You can’t use insert numpad down arrow. NVDA reserves the numpad for
screen review. Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.



I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout. If you changed
it,
let us know.



Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key. If you do,
you
will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using
the
desktop layout. I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.



But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read
to
end. If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let
us
know.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

*To:* techtalk@groups.io

*Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi folks. I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a
little
bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help
with
something.



In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow. To read
all, insert and down arrow.



Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current
line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.



I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with
the
announcement "blank."



How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert
down
arrow reads all and every blank line is silent. Help appreciated, thank
you. Walter.



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Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Walter,

NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
already provides that functionality. Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go back
one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word. Does Jaws have
other commands for navigating through text like that? I can update our
guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is covered. For what
it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:

LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character
UP / DOWN ARROW - move up or down by one line
HOME - move to the start of the current line
END - move to the end of the current line
CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one word
CONTROL+UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by paragraph (that
doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time you
press ENTER as a paragraph).
PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of information
CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
programs like Word which define a page)
CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document
CONTROL+END - move to the bottom or end of a document

The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and it
will select text as well while it moves.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi. I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off. Things are
looking a little better since I've had help from this list. It has
confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.



One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word. In Jaws insert/right arrow
will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read word by
word
backwards. just pressing left arrow will move forward character by
character and left arrow the same but backwards.



In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing the
left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
insert/left
or right arrow. I'm not sure if NNVDA does this. I've pressed
insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken. Is this feature
absent from NVDA? If NVDA does have this feature then where do I go to
find it. I don't want to spend a long frustrating period of time looking
for a feature that doesn't exist. With thanks. Walter.



*From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
*To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi Walter,



There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you have
NVDA setup. So first:



- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
CAPS
LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key. Note if you use the
numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.



- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for NVDA
commands. Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to other keys
and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.



So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
NVDA+L
in laptop layout.



To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.



As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow keys
(often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.



Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.



Gene

----- Oribginal Message -----

*From:* Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



You can’t use insert numpad down arrow. NVDA reserves the numpad for
screen review. Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.



I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout. If you changed
it,
let us know.



Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key. If you do, you
will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the
desktop layout. I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.



But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to
end. If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let
us
know.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

*To:* techtalk@groups.io

*Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi folks. I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little
bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help
with
something.



In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow. To read
all, insert and down arrow.



Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current
line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.



I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the
announcement "blank."



How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down
arrow reads all and every blank line is silent. Help appreciated, thank
you. Walter.



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User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

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