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Re: reading a PDF file

Steven Johnson
 

If you don’t have Convenient OCR, you could send it to me and I would run it through mine, and send you the text output.  It doesn’t sound like something private.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:08 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

 

I have sent this file to someone that will Braille it for me and yes, they are sighted and will scan it in and make sure all is correct.   The only problem is, that they will take a while to do this and I really need this asap.  In the long run it will be done, but to have a readable copy on my computer would be the best.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:02 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

 

I hope the OCR is very accurate that you use.  You may know from the context whether the recipes are accurate in terms of numbers, but, unless OCR is more accurate than when I used it a fair amount many years ago, I might want to have a sighted person read anything requiring precise accuracy, such as recipes, which contain numbers.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:56 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

 

I thought about that, but there are several recipes in there and I would really like them in a readable file that I can copy whatever I need.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:43 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

 

Could you turn on your victor reader stream and record what you can of the pdf file from the voice-dream-scanner?  or call Be My Eyes, and have that victor running and have someone read it to you?  at least you'd have it on a recording, or maybe 90 percent ???

Best, Penny

 

 

On 1/26/2020 5:41 AM, Kay Malmquist wrote:

Hi Gene,

I was able to open it in Voice dream reader on my iPhone and it read it there.  Unfortunately, there isn't really any way to import the text from there to another file.  So, I know that the text is there, I just can't get it to a format that I can manipulate and copy the info that I need.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

 

Without knowing what you tried, no one knows if they are just sending information duplicating what you did. 

If programs like Kurzweil or Openbook or other such programs can't recognize the document, then I don't think there is anything you can do except the old fashoned expedient of hiring someone or getting a volunteer to record the image text in the file.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

 

Hi all,

For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

 

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

 


Re: Old FireFox

Jacob
 

On 2020-01-26 at 15:16 Howard Traxler wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get an older version of firefox?  Or maybe the executible installation file still lives on a computer where it is installed?  I downloaded version 72 and just can't get it to work on my new machine as I am accustomed to.

Thanks

Howard


Re: reading a PDF file

Steven Johnson
 

Good morning Kay. I use JAWS 2019, and it has a utility called Convenient
OCR that has gotten me out of a few situations where I had a PDF file that
was an image. I'm not quite sure when JFW introduced convenient OCR, but if
you have a fairly recent version of JAWS on your computer, you could put
your cursor on the file's name and hit the application key and see if
convenient OCR is there. If you have it, hit enter on it, and JAWS does
some clicks, and after an interval of time, a screen opens up called OCR
results. Mine does a pretty nice job with the minimum of jibberish.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kay
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:10 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

I want to move it to my computer.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be,
you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <thegothot@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file


Hi Kay,
Are you wanting to keep this document on your phone, or can you move it to
your computer?

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kay Malmquist" <kay.malmquist@...>
To: "TechTalk" <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file


Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files. But when they are
images and not OCR text I can not read them. I got a book on the Keto life
style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty
much useless. I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success
turning it in to a readable document. Can anyone help me with this? I
would be very grateful. Thanks in advance.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be,
you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Old FireFox

Howard Traxler
 

Does anyone know where I can get an older version of firefox?  Or maybe the executible installation file still lives on a computer where it is installed?  I downloaded version 72 and just can't get it to work on my new machine as I am accustomed to.

Thanks

Howard


Re: reading a PDF file

Kay Malmquist
 

I want to move it to my computer.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be,
you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <thegothot@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file


Hi Kay,
Are you wanting to keep this document on your phone, or can you move it to
your computer?

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kay Malmquist" <kay.malmquist@...>
To: "TechTalk" <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file


Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files. But when they are
images and not OCR text I can not read them. I got a book on the Keto life
style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty
much useless. I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success
turning it in to a readable document. Can anyone help me with this? I
would be very grateful. Thanks in advance.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be,
you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Re: reading a PDF file

Kay Malmquist
 

I have sent this file to someone that will Braille it for me and yes, they are sighted and will scan it in and make sure all is correct.   The only problem is, that they will take a while to do this and I really need this asap.  In the long run it will be done, but to have a readable copy on my computer would be the best.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

I hope the OCR is very accurate that you use.  You may know from the context whether the recipes are accurate in terms of numbers, but, unless OCR is more accurate than when I used it a fair amount many years ago, I might want to have a sighted person read anything requiring precise accuracy, such as recipes, which contain numbers.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

I thought about that, but there are several recipes in there and I would really like them in a readable file that I can copy whatever I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Could you turn on your victor reader stream and record what you can of the pdf file from the voice-dream-scanner?  or call Be My Eyes, and have that victor running and have someone read it to you?  at least you'd have it on a recording, or maybe 90 percent ???

Best, Penny



On 1/26/2020 5:41 AM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
Hi Gene,
I was able to open it in Voice dream reader on my iPhone and it read it there.  Unfortunately, there isn't really any way to import the text from there to another file.  So, I know that the text is there, I just can't get it to a format that I can manipulate and copy the info that I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Without knowing what you tried, no one knows if they are just sending information duplicating what you did. 
If programs like Kurzweil or Openbook or other such programs can't recognize the document, then I don't think there is anything you can do except the old fashoned expedient of hiring someone or getting a volunteer to record the image text in the file.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


New Edge

Loy
 

I have been running New Edge for a while as default, now when I click on a link Edge comes up with welcome  and wants me to set it up again, and I can't close it.  Google Chrome crashes when I have it as default so I am discouraged using either program.


Re: IPhone email sound got turned down?

 

Hi Josh,
It sounds like you need to have voiceover show your notification settings and turn up the volume there. The volume in your control center just test to do with your iPhone speaker where is the mail volume is separate.
Hope this helps,



Ashley Breger

On Jan 26, 2020, at 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

Hi,
Recently with my iPod touch running the latest iOS 13.3 or whatever it is, when I send mail, the mail sending sound, its volume is quite low. Audio ducking in voiceover is turned off. How do I turn this sound back up? In control center the volume is set at around 75%. Not sure how it got turned down unless its a bug in the latest version of iOS?

Josh


Sent from my iPod


IPhone email sound got turned down?

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,
Recently with my iPod touch running the latest iOS 13.3 or whatever it is, when I send mail, the mail sending sound, its volume is quite low. Audio ducking in voiceover is turned off. How do I turn this sound back up? In control center the volume is set at around 75%. Not sure how it got turned down unless its a bug in the latest version of iOS?

Josh


Sent from my iPod


Re: reading a PDF file

Richard
 

Hi Kay,
Are you wanting to keep this document on your phone, or can you move it to
your computer?

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kay Malmquist" <kay.malmquist@...>
To: "TechTalk" <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file


Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files. But when they are
images and not OCR text I can not read them. I got a book on the Keto life
style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty
much useless. I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success
turning it in to a readable document. Can anyone help me with this? I
would be very grateful. Thanks in advance.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...

No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be,
you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Re: reading a PDF file

Gene
 

I hope the OCR is very accurate that you use.  You may know from the context whether the recipes are accurate in terms of numbers, but, unless OCR is more accurate than when I used it a fair amount many years ago, I might want to have a sighted person read anything requiring precise accuracy, such as recipes, which contain numbers.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

I thought about that, but there are several recipes in there and I would really like them in a readable file that I can copy whatever I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Could you turn on your victor reader stream and record what you can of the pdf file from the voice-dream-scanner?  or call Be My Eyes, and have that victor running and have someone read it to you?  at least you'd have it on a recording, or maybe 90 percent ???

Best, Penny



On 1/26/2020 5:41 AM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
Hi Gene,
I was able to open it in Voice dream reader on my iPhone and it read it there.  Unfortunately, there isn't really any way to import the text from there to another file.  So, I know that the text is there, I just can't get it to a format that I can manipulate and copy the info that I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Without knowing what you tried, no one knows if they are just sending information duplicating what you did. 
If programs like Kurzweil or Openbook or other such programs can't recognize the document, then I don't think there is anything you can do except the old fashoned expedient of hiring someone or getting a volunteer to record the image text in the file.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Re: reading a PDF file

Kay Malmquist
 

I thought about that, but there are several recipes in there and I would really like them in a readable file that I can copy whatever I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Could you turn on your victor reader stream and record what you can of the pdf file from the voice-dream-scanner?  or call Be My Eyes, and have that victor running and have someone read it to you?  at least you'd have it on a recording, or maybe 90 percent ???

Best, Penny



On 1/26/2020 5:41 AM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
Hi Gene,
I was able to open it in Voice dream reader on my iPhone and it read it there.  Unfortunately, there isn't really any way to import the text from there to another file.  So, I know that the text is there, I just can't get it to a format that I can manipulate and copy the info that I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Without knowing what you tried, no one knows if they are just sending information duplicating what you did. 
If programs like Kurzweil or Openbook or other such programs can't recognize the document, then I don't think there is anything you can do except the old fashoned expedient of hiring someone or getting a volunteer to record the image text in the file.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Re: reading a PDF file

Penny Golden
 

Could you turn on your victor reader stream and record what you can of the pdf file from the voice-dream-scanner?  or call Be My Eyes, and have that victor running and have someone read it to you?  at least you'd have it on a recording, or maybe 90 percent ???

Best, Penny



On 1/26/2020 5:41 AM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
Hi Gene,
I was able to open it in Voice dream reader on my iPhone and it read it there.  Unfortunately, there isn't really any way to import the text from there to another file.  So, I know that the text is there, I just can't get it to a format that I can manipulate and copy the info that I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Without knowing what you tried, no one knows if they are just sending information duplicating what you did. 
If programs like Kurzweil or Openbook or other such programs can't recognize the document, then I don't think there is anything you can do except the old fashoned expedient of hiring someone or getting a volunteer to record the image text in the file.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Re: reading a PDF file

Gene
 

There are many possible ways, and I know of a few, but others may know more.  Before I discuss ways I know, such as Kurzweil, Openbook, and Fine Reader, I'll see what others say.  There may be much less expensive ways to do what you want.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Hi Gene,
I was able to open it in Voice dream reader on my iPhone and it read it there.  Unfortunately, there isn't really any way to import the text from there to another file.  So, I know that the text is there, I just can't get it to a format that I can manipulate and copy the info that I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Without knowing what you tried, no one knows if they are just sending information duplicating what you did. 
If programs like Kurzweil or Openbook or other such programs can't recognize the document, then I don't think there is anything you can do except the old fashoned expedient of hiring someone or getting a volunteer to record the image text in the file.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Re: reading a PDF file

Kay Malmquist
 

Hi Gene,
I was able to open it in Voice dream reader on my iPhone and it read it there.  Unfortunately, there isn't really any way to import the text from there to another file.  So, I know that the text is there, I just can't get it to a format that I can manipulate and copy the info that I need.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Without knowing what you tried, no one knows if they are just sending information duplicating what you did. 
If programs like Kurzweil or Openbook or other such programs can't recognize the document, then I don't think there is anything you can do except the old fashoned expedient of hiring someone or getting a volunteer to record the image text in the file.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Re: reading a PDF file

Gene
 

Without knowing what you tried, no one knows if they are just sending information duplicating what you did. 
If programs like Kurzweil or Openbook or other such programs can't recognize the document, then I don't think there is anything you can do except the old fashoned expedient of hiring someone or getting a volunteer to record the image text in the file.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] reading a PDF file

Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


reading a PDF file

Kay Malmquist
 

Hi all,
For the most part I don't have problems with PDF files.  But when they are images and not OCR text I can not read them.  I got a book on the Keto life style and it is accompanied with a PDF and without that PDF it is pretty much useless.  I have tried a few things but haven't had any major success turning it in to a readable document.  Can anyone help me with this?  I would be very grateful.  Thanks in advance.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@...
 
No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
Rhonda Byrne


Re: JAWS Versus NVDA

Gene
 

Also, your view about add-on updates being released that are only compatible with the new version is incorrect.  The current version of the add-on updater shows new releases that are not compatible with the version you are using.  This has been discussed many times on the users' list and one of the developers has said that you can just ignore update messages for now.  this is a problem of how the updater works.  it is not a problem of there being all sorts of add-ons with new features you can't use in your current version.  You are seeing new versions that are compatible with the next version of NVDA.  The developers are working on a new version of the updater that won't have this problem in future.  And this massive coming out with compatible updates won't happen again for years, if it does again.  it is happening now because the programming language used in NVDA has a new version and NVDA needs to switch to that new version. 
 
I learned all this by following the users' list.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] JAWS Versus NVDA

Hi Abbie. I can’t answer all of your questions. I have both NVDA and jaws but the only reason I have NVDA is because I need to know it for work, as I train clients who can’t afford jaws or wish not to buy it. In Canada we don’t have access to the annual subscription unfortunately. I hope this changes but for now we have to pay the full upgrade price. As for trying a demo, one of the nice things about jaws is that you can run it forever as a demo, however you must restart your computer every 40 minutes. You can download the jaws software from

www.freedomscientific.com

Go to the download link, then the jaws link and download the latest version. Enjoy.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: January 25, 2020 6:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS Versus NVDA

 

I've been using NVDA for a couple of years, but I'm wondering if it's time for a switch. Lately, the software update process has been driving me up the wall. Apparently, the latest version, due out soon, will not be compatible with some of the software's add-ons, including the text-to-speech voices I use. This is no big deal because there are other voices that will work. But I've purchased some I really like that may not work with the new version of NVDA, at least not right away.

 

Another annoyance NVDA users are experiencing is add-on updates that are only compatible with the new version of NVDA, which isn't out yet. To me, it would make more sense to wait until the new version is released before releasing the add-on updates. But what do I know? I'm not a software developer.

 

I realize that NVDA is free, and I'm getting what I pay for. I recently read that Jaws costs only $90.00 a year for a subscription, which includes several licenses. So, I'm wondering if it's worth that much.

 

Those of you who use Jaws, what are the pros and cons? If you've used NVDA and are now using Jaws, do you think it's better? Is there a demo I can try before I buy? Thanks in advance for any input, and happy computing. 

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Re: JAWS Versus NVDA

Gene
 

Please join the NVDA Users' list to stay informed about such things and ask questions.  Some add-ons won't be compatible now, some of them will be later, perhaps not too far in the future, and a lot are compatible.  I don't know what voices you are using but unless you got your information from a really reliable source, if it is discussion of the Internet sort, I heard this or that, which I almost always find wrong or misleading, don't give it credence until it is checked where people like one or two developers hang out, that is, the NVDA Users' list. 
 
If you are using the Code Factory NVDA add-on, there is a version compatible with the next version of NVDA.  I believe another add-on also has a compatible version that is developed by another company.
 
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Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS Versus NVDA

I've been using NVDA for a couple of years, but I'm wondering if it's time for a switch. Lately, the software update process has been driving me up the wall. Apparently, the latest version, due out soon, will not be compatible with some of the software's add-ons, including the text-to-speech voices I use. This is no big deal because there are other voices that will work. But I've purchased some I really like that may not work with the new version of NVDA, at least not right away.
 
Another annoyance NVDA users are experiencing is add-on updates that are only compatible with the new version of NVDA, which isn't out yet. To me, it would make more sense to wait until the new version is released before releasing the add-on updates. But what do I know? I'm not a software developer.
 
I realize that NVDA is free, and I'm getting what I pay for. I recently read that Jaws costs only $90.00 a year for a subscription, which includes several licenses. So, I'm wondering if it's worth that much.
 
Those of you who use Jaws, what are the pros and cons? If you've used NVDA and are now using Jaws, do you think it's better? Is there a demo I can try before I buy? Thanks in advance for any input, and happy computing. 
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Re: JAWS Versus NVDA

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,

To answer the questions on add-on compatibility situation:

  1. Speech synthesizers: more vendors are coming onboard with Python 3 version, so hopefully more should be ready by the time NVDA 2019.3 is released.
  2. Early release of 2019.3 only add-ons: I think you might be talking about my add-ons, and if so, it was a necessary procedure due to scheduling reasons- I scheduled 20.01 releases for various add-ons, most of them compatible with NVDA 2019.3 or later due to vast differences between old and new releases. Originally I planned to release all of them in early January, but I delayed releasing some of them due to user experience concerns as you pointed out. I did say to the NVDA users community that folks can ignore 20.01 releases for now until NVDA 2019.3 is released, and for this reason, I am delaying February 2020 releases of various add-ons from my lab until at least 2019.3 release candidate is released.

The NVDA community is keeping a very close eye on compatibility between upcoming NVDA 2019.3 and many add-ons, and folks are keeping contact with add-on writers about add-on compatibility.

As for comparison with JAWS 2020, I’ll let other folks answer this one.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] JAWS Versus NVDA

 

I've been using NVDA for a couple of years, but I'm wondering if it's time for a switch. Lately, the software update process has been driving me up the wall. Apparently, the latest version, due out soon, will not be compatible with some of the software's add-ons, including the text-to-speech voices I use. This is no big deal because there are other voices that will work. But I've purchased some I really like that may not work with the new version of NVDA, at least not right away.

 

Another annoyance NVDA users are experiencing is add-on updates that are only compatible with the new version of NVDA, which isn't out yet. To me, it would make more sense to wait until the new version is released before releasing the add-on updates. But what do I know? I'm not a software developer.

 

I realize that NVDA is free, and I'm getting what I pay for. I recently read that Jaws costs only $90.00 a year for a subscription, which includes several licenses. So, I'm wondering if it's worth that much.

 

Those of you who use Jaws, what are the pros and cons? If you've used NVDA and are now using Jaws, do you think it's better? Is there a demo I can try before I buy? Thanks in advance for any input, and happy computing. 

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