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Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Walter,

When I press the normal insert + keyboard down arrow, I do get a continuous read feature (JAWS read to end.)  As someone else mentioned, in long documents with multiple blank lines, NVDA sometimes quits reading. I do get the proper behavior other than that caveat.

I am wondering if you have the latest NVDA.

On 4/15/2020 4:07 PM, Walter Ramage via groups.io wrote:

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.


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Re: a winamp question

Gene
 

Close the Winamp library window with control f4 when you are in it.  It won’t open again until you open it.
 
Close any window you don’t want opened in Winamp with control f4. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:32 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a winamp question
 
Hi all,

I use winamp as my default player and for some reason here lately when I
play some of my mp3's jaws says the word library when winamp first
starts and I have trouble from there changing the volume or just about
anything else. I've done the control tab to go through the different
winamp windows but it seems like certain commands work in some windows
and other commands work in other windows. This may not be true but
that's what appears is happening.

First off does anybody know why I get placed in the winamp library
window occasionally, and second what window do I need to go to to make
the commands such as volume up and down, right and left arrow to go
forward and backward in the file, and b and z to move from file to file
will all work? Btw I'm using winamp 5.666 I believe it is, and I'm
running windows 10 if that matters. Also I just realized that it seems
like I get placed in this library window when I start playing mp3 files
that I've converted from youtube files.

Thanks.

Troy





Re: a winamp question

Kerryn Gunness
 

winamp library is open
press alt f to open file menue
arrow to library and uncheck it by pressing enter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy Burnham" <troyburnham34@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:32 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a winamp question


Hi all,

I use winamp as my default player and for some reason here lately when I play some of my mp3's jaws says the word library when winamp first starts and I have trouble from there changing the volume or just about anything else. I've done the control tab to go through the different winamp windows but it seems like certain commands work in some windows and other commands work in other windows. This may not be true but that's what appears is happening.

First off does anybody know why I get placed in the winamp library window occasionally, and second what window do I need to go to to make the commands such as volume up and down, right and left arrow to go forward and backward in the file, and b and z to move from file to file will all work? Btw I'm using winamp 5.666 I believe it is, and I'm running windows 10 if that matters. Also I just realized that it seems like I get placed in this library window when I start playing mp3 files that I've converted from youtube files.

Thanks.

Troy




a winamp question

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I use winamp as my default player and for some reason here lately when I play some of my mp3's jaws says the word library when winamp first starts and I have trouble from there changing the volume or just about anything else. I've done the control tab to go through the different winamp windows but it seems like certain commands work in some windows and other commands work in other windows. This may not be true but that's what appears is happening.

First off does anybody know why I get placed in the winamp library window occasionally, and second what window do I need to go to to make the commands such as volume up and down, right and left arrow to go forward and backward in the file, and b and z to move from file to file will all work? Btw I'm using winamp 5.666 I believe it is, and I'm running windows 10 if that matters. Also I just realized that it seems like I get placed in this library window when I start playing mp3 files that I've converted from youtube files.

Thanks.

Troy


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Walter,

There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So first:

- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key.  Note if you use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.

- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".  Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for NVDA commands.  Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.

So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or NVDA+L in laptop layout.

To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.

As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.

Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced. 
 
Gene
----- Oribginal Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 
You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow. 
 
I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you changed it, let us know.
 
Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do, you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.
 
But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us know.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.


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Re: Anyone ever had a device repaired by HIMS

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Mr. Johnson, if your HIMS toy is STILL UNDER WARRANTY, you'll be golden! If
not, give it a try anyway and good luck.

Please note that HIMS Tech Support IS NOT STELLAR! In that regard I wonder
which one is in the ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY TOY industry since the demise of GW
Micro? All the same, send them E-mail, try to get an RMA if needed, then
CROSS YOUR FINGERS as it may take several weeks to get your toy back with
the hope that the issue you're having will be fixed straight up.

Lastly, keep in mind that, Selvas Healthcare, the parent of HIMS, Inc., is
based in Seoul, South Korea; as such, the repair of your toy may need to be
done in Seoul thus extending even further the length of time it will take to
get it back. Again, give it a try, your mileage may vary such that
everything will just pan out as expected! Good luck and all the very best.


Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Anyone ever had a device repaired by HIMS

Evan Reese
 

Yes, I had a Book Sense fixed by them, twice actually.
It all went very smoothly.
But that was several years ago and things may have changed.
Hopefully, you’ll hear from people who’ve had more recent experiences with them.
Evan
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 7:15 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Anyone ever had a device repaired by HIMS
 

I need to send a device to HIMS for repair.  A question for anyone who has had their HIMS device fixed, did they treat you fairly?  Did they do a good job on the repair?


Anyone ever had a device repaired by HIMS

Steven Johnson
 

I need to send a device to HIMS for repair.  A question for anyone who has had their HIMS device fixed, did they treat you fairly?  Did they do a good job on the repair?


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced. 
 
Gene
----- Oribginal Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 
You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow. 
 
I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you changed it, let us know.
 
Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do, you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.
 
But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us know.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.


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Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow. 
 
I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you changed it, let us know.
 
Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do, you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.
 
But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us know.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.


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Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter Ramage
 

Hi That's very disappointing. To read a largish document and to hear blank
spoken over and over again would be most irritating. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joseph Lee
Sent: 15 April 2020 21:51
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Hi all,
Suppressing blank lines option doesn't exist in NVDA, although some
developers offered possible solutions in the past.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walter
Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Hi Dave. I've went through the settings but couldn't find anything that was
obvious to make the change. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave
Sent: 15 April 2020 21:26
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter,


When using NVDA, I have found that NVDA will stop Reading to End, if there
are two blank lines between sentences or paragraphs.


There is a way to turn off NVDA from saying Blank Line.


Press the Insert Key along with the letter N, and look around in the
Settings for this switch.


Grumpy Dave







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Re: web hosting

Rayn Darren
 

Hey Kerryn,

I know I’m a little late, but if you haven’t found anyone to help yet, lemme know. 😊

 

Sarah

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 6:23 PM
To: teck talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] web hosting

 

hi group

do any of you all no of any free web hosting, where any file size can be uploaded?

thanks

 

kerryn

 


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi all,
Suppressing blank lines option doesn't exist in NVDA, although some
developers offered possible solutions in the past.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walter
Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Hi Dave. I've went through the settings but couldn't find anything that was
obvious to make the change. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave
Sent: 15 April 2020 21:26
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter,


When using NVDA, I have found that NVDA will stop Reading to End, if there
are two blank lines between sentences or paragraphs.


There is a way to turn off NVDA from saying Blank Line.


Press the Insert Key along with the letter N, and look around in the
Settings for this switch.


Grumpy Dave







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repairing a Victor reader?

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

Yesterday I dropped my second generation Victor stream, and evidently it fell on the front where the buttons are because the very top of it popped up just a bit. It still works although the bookmark button and the button I press to go between the online and offline folders are more imbedded and don't stick up as much because of the way the top popped up, does anybody know if that top may be able to just be pressed down and it'll pop back into place? This is an older machine so the warranty has long since lapsed on it, and since it still works I don't want to put out the money for a new one. If the portion of the top that's now raised a bit can be snapped back down that would be helpful though, I don't want to try it myself without knowing if that might work for fear that I might make things worse.

Thanks.

Troy


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter Ramage
 

Hi Dave. I've went through the settings but couldn't find anything that was
obvious to make the change. Walter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dave
Sent: 15 April 2020 21:26
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter,


When using NVDA, I have found that NVDA will stop Reading to End, if
there are two blank lines between sentences or paragraphs.


There is a way to turn off NVDA from saying Blank Line.


Press the Insert Key along with the letter N, and look around in the
Settings for this switch.


Grumpy Dave







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Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter Ramage
 

Hi Yes, I was using the normal arrow keys, I never use the numpad.  Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 15 April 2020 21:12
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi,

Are you perhaps using numpad up or down arrows? If you do, they will do completely different things. To perform say all and read current line, you must use regular arrow keys.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walter Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:08 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Dave
 

Walter,


When using NVDA, I have found that NVDA will stop Reading to End, if there are two blank lines between sentences or paragraphs.


There is a way to turn off NVDA from saying Blank Line.


Press the Insert Key along with the letter N, and look around in the Settings for this switch.


Grumpy Dave


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,

Are you perhaps using numpad up or down arrows? If you do, they will do completely different things. To perform say all and read current line, you must use regular arrow keys.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walter Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:08 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


NVDA, read current line and read all

Walter Ramage
 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: smart television

heather albright
 

Hello, here is what you need if you do not already have, the cable  to connect your 3.5 to the converter  box with your speakers. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NO73MUQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Some speakers have extra cables I did not have the extra cable so I went online to get this one.  Cheers  Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 7:52 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] smart television

 

Hi Heather,

 

Many thanks for the link to the converter. I had all but given up on making this happen with my Fire stick. I can’t wait to get one of these bad boys and try it out.

 

Best,

Norma

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] smart television

 

Hello, I got my converter  box off amazon. I also got 3.5 head phone jack to connect my speakers to the converter box. Here is the link if you are looking for the same thing:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DFDQ6HG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So with the fire stick, plugg in the fire stick to the ac adaptor and than plugg it in to the converter box. So the 3.5 conector is for the set of speakers that go to the converter box. I thought 3.5 was better than relying on Bluetooth that  can lose connection and you are left with out audio till someone resets up the Bluetooth off the fire stick; a sighted assistant and than you have to have a visual screen to work that out. my speakers are usb powered  with a 3.5 connection. I plug my speakers in a usb hub to power them and use the 3.5 connector to connect to the converter box. So it works out great. Amazon accessibility cant seem to rap their brains over this one; they still cant believe a blind person can operate a firestick without a screen woe!  Now if only they had a remote control with usb powered speakers. Some times the audio gets louder depending on the app like you tube or amazon prime or netflix. So it would have been nice to control the audio with a remote control for the speakers. But, if you do have a smart tv, the fire stick 4.k remote is supposed to work on the tv to control the volume level. But, not worth the money it would cost like over100 dollars vurses the 50 dollars I spent on my set up. I bought my firestick when it was on sale for 15 dollars and the converter box was 22 dollars and the 3.5 connecter was 5 dollars; less than 50 dollars woe!  But if you want something more like the fire tv q, that has room for backing things up, you can use the same set up to do the same thing! Cheers Heather

 

From: Dragos Grecianu
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] smart television

 

    Hey.

Where did you get that converter box thing?

I want a fire stick, but I want to make mine audio only and portable if possible.

How small and how expensive is that device?

It sounds really cool.

Thanks and best regards.

La 4/13/2020 7:08 PM, heather albright a scris:

I use the firestick but, I do not have connected to a tv, I use a converter box and a set of speakers. I was reading about apple tv, seems they are at war with some tv content, I would check to make sure it meets your needs! Cheers Heather

 

From: Fanus
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] smart television

 

Hello list

From a blind person's perspective this may seem like a stupid question.

During this lock down I stream many of the metropolitan opera house operas.

It is quite a pain with my fairly old tv and laptop to stream and now I

examine all kinds of products because my wife is sighted and she enjoys the

shows and we did not realize there are so many things from youtube that one

can stream. I looked at specs for the Amazon fire 4K stick and cube, the

Google Chromecast ultra and the Apple tv but all of them have things that I

like and things that I would want in the device. I have read the Take

Control of Apple TV book and the writer asks what I want to ask year: is it

worth while to buy an apple tv if one can buy a smart television with

Airplay2 and the apple tv app built-in. Here in South Africa I can get such

a tv for not very much more than an Apple tv. So, is there someone who uses

a smart television with airplay and if so, is it a workable better option

for a blind person?

Regards

Fanus

,

 

 

 

 

 

 

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