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On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?

Marie

On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@gmail.com> wrote:

I sent a subscribe email to Groups.io and never received a confirmation email. The group did not require approval for subscription.
But,as I stated I can receive from other sources?



Marie
-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

What exactly is the issue? Are you not able to receive are you not able to send what's the deal?
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@twc.com


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?

Marie

On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?

Marie

I offer my two cents. The laptop was designed from conception to completion to shed heat with its lid open. I don't believe the designers ever envisaged use with the lid closed.

The fact that it works, apparently, for some computers, is probably brand specific, or good luck.

As I'm sure you have observed, whenever the computer gets warm the fan kicks in and brings the processor back to a temperature range within which the processor works most efficiently. There are a number of utilities out there that will take the temperature of several areas on your motherboard if you're interested. One of the design features built into your computer and its processor is that the speed of processing is reduced as temperature goes up, as an attempt to keep that heat under control. The reduced load is also part of overall battery and power management, and the balances designed for performance and long life

It's also my contention that the heat buildup with the lid closed will eventually damage the display. I have, with my six-year-old Dell laptop, reduce the heat substantially by installing a 500 GB SSD for a cost of about $80. I too would find it convenient to run it with the lid closed. However, running temperature software, I see that the temperature goes up fairly quickly and I hear the fan working harder than normal. Of course, you can tell the computer how to behave when it's closed in the Control Panel under power settings.

I'm not sure if I want to risk damaging the display, even though I don't use it. It just doesn't feel right.

You might consider some kind of compromise by putting some cardboard or something in between the lid and the body that would not totally compromise air circulation, but it's your gamble. Of course, I appreciate how much more convenient it would be to run a closed computer.

Geoff

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 4:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeffrey Schwartz

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:21 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Spotify

How well does this application work with jaws

Thanks,

Jeff

Hi Madison,

Regardless of the power settings, you ought to be able to force a hard shutdown by holding the power button for 5 or 6 seconds, but don't release it prior to this or it may simply go to sleep.

If you still want to alter what the power button does, as well as what happens when you close the lid, press the windows key plus x, followed by o.

Then tab through till you reach "additional power settings" and press enter to see the available options.

Thanks

Sam

Hi all,

On the topic of power settings, can someone please tell me where to go to find

the power settings for my laptop? I'm asking because on my old laptop when I

pressed and held the power button that resulted in a hard shut down, but when I

do it on my new computer nothing happens. Is this something that can be changed

in the power settings? If not then where and how do I change it? Well I don't

need to do a hard shut down very often there have been times where my computer

freezes and/or Jaws stops talking and the only way to get it going again is to

shut it down which I obviously can't do without speech so I have to get someone

to shut it down for me which is annoying. Doing a hard shut down is a way for me

to fix it myself. Sorry for the long message, hope someone can help!! Thanks

Madison 

Hi all,
On the topic of power settings, can someone please tell me where to go to find
the power settings for my laptop? I'm asking because on my old laptop when I
pressed and held the power button that resulted in a hard shut down, but when I
do it on my new computer nothing happens. Is this something that can be changed
in the power settings? If not then where and how do I change it? Well I don't
need to do a hard shut down very often there have been times where my computer
freezes and/or Jaws stops talking and the only way to get it going again is to
shut it down which I obviously can't do without speech so I have to get someone
to shut it down for me which is annoying. Doing a hard shut down is a way for me
to fix it myself. Sorry for the long message, hope someone can help!! Thanks
Madison 

I did some looking around in power settings, I looked at what happens when closing the lid. My setting shows that the computer will shut down. These settings can be changed.

So, if you have a similar setting, it will be fine to shut the machine's lid and expect it to shut down. Hope this helps.

On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:

For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid. That is a hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way. How hot a computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can generalize. But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed. You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good idea to let a computer run with the lid down. And why did the person want to do so in the first place? I see no benefit. Just because someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy

Gene,

That's why I asked before I tried it, I have no idea why the person
who told me they do this does it.

Troy



On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:

For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid. That is a
hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way. How hot a
computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can
generalize. But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up
that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action
is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or
sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.
You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case
the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by
default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good
idea to let a computer run with the lid down. And why did the person
want to do so in the first place? I see no benefit. Just because
someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing
doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even
when they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though
because I remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just
closed the lid without shutting it down first and when I found out
and went back several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I
could barely touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a
desktop computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the
motherboard ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but
if there is some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm
using it and the heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy

I did some looking around in power settings, I looked at what happens when closing the lid. My setting shows that the computer will shut down. These settings can be changed.

So, if you have a similar setting, it will be fine to shut the machine's lid and expect it to shut down. Hope this helps.

On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:

For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid.  That is a hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way.  How hot a computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can generalize.  But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.  You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good idea to let a computer run with the lid down.  And why did the person want to do so in the first place?  I see no benefit.  Just because someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even when
they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though because I
remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just closed the lid
without shutting it down first and when I found out and went back
several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I could barely
touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a desktop
computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the motherboard
ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but if there is
some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm using it and the
heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy

Gene,

That's why I asked before I tried it, I have no idea why the person
who told me they do this does it.

Troy



On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, Gene wrote:

For one thing, a sighted persohn wouldn't close the lid. That is a
hint that laptops aren't designed to operate in that way. How hot a
computer gets depends on the computer and I don't know if one can
generalize. But wwhy do anything that causes extra heat to build up
that might be too much. Also, I don't know what the default action
is, but laptops generally are set at the factory to shut down or
sleepp or in some way stop or suspend working when the lid is closed.
You can change the close the lid setting to do nothing, in which case
the computer will still run but again, I think the setting that by
default in some way stops operation is a hint that it is not a good
idea to let a computer run with the lid down. And why did the person
want to do so in the first place? I see no benefit. Just because
someone may think its cool to do something because its appealing
doesn't mean it is.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] closing laptop's lid while using?

Hi all,

I use a USB keyboard with my laptop and somebody who also uses a USB
keyboard told me the other day that they keep the lid closed even
when they're using it. I just wonder if that's advisable though
because I remember once I let my mom use my laptop, and she just
closed the lid without shutting it down first and when I found out
and went back several hours later the whole machine was so hot that I
could barely touch it.

That was several years ago now, but between that and leaving a
desktop computer on for a few days in a row many years ago and the
motherboard ended up burning up I don't want to take any chances, but
if there is some way that I can keep my laptop lid closed when I'm
using it and the heat won't damage it I might do that.

Oh, I don't run my laptop 24/7 but it is on all day long most days.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this matter.

Troy