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Re: Welcome (back) iPhone SE?

Carolyn Arnold
 

I sent my sister the information about it, because just a
couple of days ago, she said she needed to replace her 7. I
told her it had a Home Button, so she could still use
fingerprint, although facial ID has been no problem to me.
Still, if you don't have to change, why do it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Welcome (back) iPhone SE?

Welcome (back) iPhone SE — but did Apple just cannibalize
itself?

Don't judge an iPhone by its cover... Remember iPhone SE?
It's that little rectangle which you could actually operate
one-handedly without spraining a finger.
Apple
released it in 2016, then stopped selling it in 2018. Now,
it's shockingly resurrecting iPhone SE for 2020, starting at
the (relatively) lower price of $399.

list of 2 items
• Looks: Pretty much the same as the iPhone 8 — a 4.7-inch
screen with a frame around it and a home button with Touch
ID. The real change lies on the inside...
• Specs: Better camera equipped with 4K video and portrait
mode. Also boasts a more powerful processor with the new A13
Bionic chip (sounds legit). Apple

says
it put "the brains" of iPhone 11 Pro in the body of SE.
list end

What interested us most was the timing of this launch...
Given the COVID-19 crisis, this might not seem like the best
time to ship a new product. Apple thinks it's a great time:

list of 2 items
• With the economy in shambles, it makes sense to introduce
a lower-cost phone. The new SE is $200 cheaper than the next
"cheapest" iPhone (and many Android models). A low-cost,
high-performance phone could thrive right now.
• With most Apple stores closed, people can't try before
they buy. Buying iPhones online becomes more attractive with
a lower price and newer product — Apple's trying to drive
excitement for online orders with this launch (people get
hyped on pre-orders).
list end
THE TAKEAWAY

Is Apple cannibalizing itself?... Cannibalization occurs
when a new product is so irresistible it steals sales from
your other (often higher-priced) products.
Tesla's Model 3 stole sales from its Model S. But Apple
probably did a lot of research on this risk and decided
that:

• More Upgrades: iPhone users might be more likely to
upgrade from their old phones after the launch of SE, with
that volume covering lost sales from pricier models.
• More Market Share: With this lower-priced option, Apple
might convert some Androiders — Google 's Android still
controls 70% of the world's cell phones.
• But if fancy new iPhone users change to the lower-priced
SE instead, that's a problem for Apple.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Keurig single cup coffee maker

Terri N.
 

Hey Fred,
We use the echo cups. And you don’t need a filter for those. You shouldn’t need a filter for yours either if it looks like it’s made out of the screen type material. If you’d like to call us at some point and we can just babble about this our phone number is, 314-802-8298. Take care

You can fill your ears with music and your mouth with food, but, music won’t make you fat.
ternord54@gmail.com
On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Fred Adams <w4hc@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Thanks much for your response. Do you or Kay ever use the paper filters in the reusable coffee pods? I thought the type of grounds might have something to do with my problem and after talking to you I am sure of it. Thanks again and I might have some future questions for you as I am just getting started with the Keurig coffee maker.

Thanks again,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of ternord54@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 1:22 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Keurig single cup coffee maker

Hey Fred,
My wife Kay and I have a cure egg coffee maker and we also use those reusable podhs. What she says that that she uses is not the espresso grind but the drip coffee grind. We even ground our own coffee and put in there and it works just fine. don’t put any more than two heaping tablespoons of coffee in that cup. A couple of things can affect how the coffee turns out. Number one the wrong grind and number to the amount of coffee you put in there. If you get it to fall it won’t brew right because the water can’t run through it the way it should. If you have anymore questions don’t be afraid to ask. Thanks

You can fill your ears with music and your mouth with food, but, music won’t make you fat.
ternord54@gmail.com
On Apr 16, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Fred Adams <w4hc@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Do any of you list members use the Keurig single cup coffee maker and if so, do you ever use the reusable coffee pod? Do the reusable coffee pod require a special grind? I have tried several times to use the reusable coffee pod to make coffee using Folgers classic regular grind and it never turns out very well. I also tried making coffee with the filter and without the filter and results are pretty much the same. I would appreciate any info or suggestions.
Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY ABN RET
ETERNITY ETERNITY AVERY LONG TIME


Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Veronica Kirk
 

Jaws has been able to do this with all of my computers starting with XP and going up to 10, and with all versions of Jaws I have used.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 11:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all


The command ctrl+the right or left arrow does indeed move word by word with Jaws 2020 and Win10.


Marie
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview
commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk]
NVDA, read current line and read all

With JAWS, word navigation can be done on Num Lock Pad with Jaws Key and
respective arrow, but not on the standard arrows. With the standard left and
right arrows, arrows, it goes one character at a time. I'm trying this
stuff, as discussed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:46 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands
for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read
current line and read all

On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Walter,

NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
already provides that functionality. Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go
back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word. Does
Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that? I can
update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is
covered. For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:

LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character UP / DOWN
ARROW - move up or down by one line HOME - move to the start of the
current line END - move to the end of the current line
CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one
CONTROL+word UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by
CONTROL+paragraph (that
doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time
you press ENTER as a paragraph).
PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of
information
CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
programs like Word which define a page)
CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document END - move to
CONTROL+the bottom or end of a document

The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and
it will select text as well while it moves.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi. I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off. Things
are looking a little better since I've had help from this list. It
has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware
of.



One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word. In Jaws insert/right
arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read
word by word backwards. just pressing left arrow will move forward
character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.



In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing
the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
insert/left or right arrow. I'm not sure if NNVDA does this. I've
pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken. Is
this feature absent from NVDA? If NVDA does have this feature then
where do I go to find it. I don't want to spend a long frustrating
period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist. With
thanks. Walter.



*From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
*To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi Walter,



There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you
have NVDA setup. So first:



- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key. Note if you
use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.



- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for
NVDA commands. Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to
other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.



So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
NVDA+L
in laptop layout.



To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.



As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow
keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number
pad.



Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNV
DA



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.



Gene

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*From:* Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



You can’t use insert numpad down arrow. NVDA reserves the numpad for
screen review. Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.



I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout. If you
changed it, let us know.



Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key. If you do,
you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are
using the desktop layout. I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not
sure.



But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for
read to end. If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an
NVDA key, let us know.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

*To:* techtalk@groups.io

*Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi folks. I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a
little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like
some help with something.



In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow. To
read all, insert and down arrow.



Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read
current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read
all.



I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with
the announcement "blank."



How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert
down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent. Help
appreciated, thank you. Walter.



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Re: Welcome (back) iPhone SE?

Cristóbal
 

Uh... short answer. Enough of them.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte
Single
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 3:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Welcome (back) iPhone SE?

Yes, the new se is appealing to lots of people.

My question
Is, how many of these phones will apple make?
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: April-16-20 4:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Welcome (back) iPhone SE?

Welcome (back) iPhone SE — but did Apple just cannibalize itself?

Don't judge an iPhone by its cover... Remember iPhone SE? It's that little
rectangle which you could actually operate one-handedly without spraining a
finger.
Apple
released it in 2016, then stopped selling it in 2018. Now, it's shockingly
resurrecting iPhone SE for 2020, starting at the (relatively) lower price of
$399.

list of 2 items
• Looks: Pretty much the same as the iPhone 8 — a 4.7-inch screen with a
frame around it and a home button with Touch ID. The real change lies on the
inside...
• Specs: Better camera equipped with 4K video and portrait mode. Also boasts
a more powerful processor with the new A13 Bionic chip (sounds legit). Apple

says
it put "the brains" of iPhone 11 Pro in the body of SE.
list end

What interested us most was the timing of this launch... Given the COVID-19
crisis, this might not seem like the best time to ship a new product. Apple
thinks it's a great time:

list of 2 items
• With the economy in shambles, it makes sense to introduce a lower-cost
phone. The new SE is $200 cheaper than the next "cheapest" iPhone (and many
Android models). A low-cost, high-performance phone could thrive right now.
• With most Apple stores closed, people can't try before they buy. Buying
iPhones online becomes more attractive with a lower price and newer product
— Apple's trying to drive excitement for online orders with this launch
(people get hyped on pre-orders).
list end
THE TAKEAWAY

Is Apple cannibalizing itself?... Cannibalization occurs when a new product
is so irresistible it steals sales from your other (often higher-priced)
products.
Tesla's Model 3 stole sales from its Model S. But Apple probably did a lot
of research on this risk and decided that:

• More Upgrades: iPhone users might be more likely to upgrade from their old
phones after the launch of SE, with that volume covering lost sales from
pricier models.
• More Market Share: With this lower-priced option, Apple might convert some
Androiders — Google 's Android still controls 70% of the world's cell
phones.
• But if fancy new iPhone users change to the lower-priced SE instead,
that's a problem for Apple.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Welcome (back) iPhone SE?

Monte Single
 

Yes, the new se is appealing to lots of people.

My question
Is, how many of these phones will apple make?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Sent: April-16-20 4:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Welcome (back) iPhone SE?

Welcome (back) iPhone SE — but did Apple just cannibalize itself?

Don't judge an iPhone by its cover... Remember iPhone SE? It's that little
rectangle which you could actually operate one-handedly without spraining a
finger.
Apple
released it in 2016, then stopped selling it in 2018. Now, it's shockingly
resurrecting iPhone SE for 2020, starting at the (relatively) lower price of
$399.

list of 2 items
• Looks: Pretty much the same as the iPhone 8 — a 4.7-inch screen with a
frame around it and a home button with Touch ID. The real change lies on the
inside...
• Specs: Better camera equipped with 4K video and portrait mode. Also boasts
a more powerful processor with the new A13 Bionic chip (sounds legit). Apple

says
it put "the brains" of iPhone 11 Pro in the body of SE.
list end

What interested us most was the timing of this launch... Given the COVID-19
crisis, this might not seem like the best time to ship a new product. Apple
thinks it's a great time:

list of 2 items
• With the economy in shambles, it makes sense to introduce a lower-cost
phone. The new SE is $200 cheaper than the next "cheapest" iPhone (and many
Android models). A low-cost, high-performance phone could thrive right now.
• With most Apple stores closed, people can't try before they buy. Buying
iPhones online becomes more attractive with a lower price and newer product
— Apple's trying to drive excitement for online orders with this launch
(people get hyped on pre-orders).
list end
THE TAKEAWAY

Is Apple cannibalizing itself?... Cannibalization occurs when a new product
is so irresistible it steals sales from your other (often higher-priced)
products.
Tesla's Model 3 stole sales from its Model S. But Apple probably did a lot
of research on this risk and decided that:

• More Upgrades: iPhone users might be more likely to upgrade from their old
phones after the launch of SE, with that volume covering lost sales from
pricier models.
• More Market Share: With this lower-priced option, Apple might convert some
Androiders — Google 's Android still controls 70% of the world's cell
phones.
• But if fancy new iPhone users change to the lower-priced SE instead,
that's a problem for Apple.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: What to do when your computer goes silent

Dave
 

I suffer the same sudden loss of Speech when using last years version of
Jaws 2019.


I do use the Alt-F4 keys to shut down, or I hope I am shutting things down.


I then hold my breath, say a little Prayer, and press and hold the
Button that turns my computer on, and I keep it pressed until the
computer is totally silent.


I then wait about 10 seconds, and press the On switch again, and let it
Boot up Normally.


I suffer this problem most often while in Thunderbird.  How about you?


I have attempted to start NVDA and even Narrator, but on my System, when
it goes Silent, it remains quiet.


I have a friend who also uses Win 10, and he has the newest JAWS, and he
too suffers the Silent Treatment.  But, his System will let him start
Narrator.  Once it is started, he can then move around an shut
everything down normally.


Grumpy Dave


Welcome (back) iPhone SE?

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Welcome (back) iPhone SE — but did Apple just cannibalize itself?

Don't judge an iPhone by its cover... Remember iPhone SE? It's that little
rectangle which you could actually operate one-handedly without spraining a
finger.
Apple
released it in 2016, then stopped selling it in 2018. Now, it's shockingly
resurrecting iPhone SE for 2020, starting at the (relatively) lower price of
$399.

list of 2 items
• Looks: Pretty much the same as the iPhone 8 — a 4.7-inch screen with a
frame around it and a home button with Touch ID. The real change lies on the
inside...
• Specs: Better camera equipped with 4K video and portrait mode. Also boasts
a more powerful processor with the new A13 Bionic chip (sounds legit). Apple

says
it put "the brains" of iPhone 11 Pro in the body of SE.
list end

What interested us most was the timing of this launch... Given the COVID-19
crisis, this might not seem like the best time to ship a new product. Apple
thinks it's a great time:

list of 2 items
• With the economy in shambles, it makes sense to introduce a lower-cost
phone. The new SE is $200 cheaper than the next "cheapest" iPhone (and many
Android
models). A low-cost, high-performance phone could thrive right now.
• With most Apple stores closed, people can't try before they buy. Buying
iPhones online becomes more attractive with a lower price and newer product

Apple's trying to drive excitement for online orders with this launch
(people get hyped on pre-orders).
list end
THE TAKEAWAY

Is Apple cannibalizing itself?... Cannibalization occurs when a new product
is so irresistible it steals sales from your other (often higher-priced)
products.
Tesla's Model 3 stole sales from its Model S. But Apple probably did a lot
of research on this risk and decided that:

• More Upgrades: iPhone users might be more likely to upgrade from their old
phones after the launch of SE, with that volume covering lost sales from
pricier
models.
• More Market Share: With this lower-priced option, Apple might convert some
Androiders —
Google
's Android still controls
70%
of the world's cell phones.
• But if fancy new iPhone users change to the lower-priced SE instead,
that's a problem for Apple.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: What to do when your computer goes silent

Mich Verrier
 

Hi you can try starting narater by hitting alt control enter and then if you want to go to the task manager hit controle shift escape hth. From Mich.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: April 16, 2020 6:08 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] What to do when your computer goes silent

 

Hi List, I am using a Windows 10 desktop computer using Jaws 2020 and Leasey 5.13. 

 

Sometimes it goes silent. 

 

I was wondering what steps you would try in such a situation.

 

Is there a keyboard command for Task Manager? If the computer is still silent, what would you do after issuing that command?

 

Would you try pressing Alt F4 and then Alt Tab and another Alt F4 until you think that you have shutdown all open windows?

 

Would you try the Leasey command of Tilda followed by either Alt Shift r for Restart or Tilda Alt Shift s for shutdown?

 

I’m afraid I’ve done so many shutdowns and restarts that I think that I may have caused damage to my computer.

 

I am hoping some safe successful solutions may be suggested.

 

Any such will be gratefully received and acted upon!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V

 


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What to do when your computer goes silent

Vicky Vaughan
 

Hi List, I am using a Windows 10 desktop computer using Jaws 2020 and Leasey 5.13. 

 

Sometimes it goes silent. 

 

I was wondering what steps you would try in such a situation.

 

Is there a keyboard command for Task Manager? If the computer is still silent, what would you do after issuing that command?

 

Would you try pressing Alt F4 and then Alt Tab and another Alt F4 until you think that you have shutdown all open windows?

 

Would you try the Leasey command of Tilda followed by either Alt Shift r for Restart or Tilda Alt Shift s for shutdown?

 

I’m afraid I’ve done so many shutdowns and restarts that I think that I may have caused damage to my computer.

 

I am hoping some safe successful solutions may be suggested.

 

Any such will be gratefully received and acted upon!

 

Sincerely, Vicky V




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Re: Keurig single cup coffee maker

Fred Adams
 

Thanks much for your response. Do you or Kay ever use the paper filters in the reusable coffee pods? I thought the type of grounds might have something to do with my problem and after talking to you I am sure of it. Thanks again and I might have some future questions for you as I am just getting started with the Keurig coffee maker.

Thanks again,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of ternord54@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 1:22 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Keurig single cup coffee maker

Hey Fred,
My wife Kay and I have a cure egg coffee maker and we also use those reusable podhs. What she says that that she uses is not the espresso grind but the drip coffee grind. We even ground our own coffee and put in there and it works just fine. don’t put any more than two heaping tablespoons of coffee in that cup. A couple of things can affect how the coffee turns out. Number one the wrong grind and number to the amount of coffee you put in there. If you get it to fall it won’t brew right because the water can’t run through it the way it should. If you have anymore questions don’t be afraid to ask. Thanks

You can fill your ears with music and your mouth with food, but, music won’t make you fat.
ternord54@gmail.com
On Apr 16, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Fred Adams <w4hc@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Do any of you list members use the Keurig single cup coffee maker and if so, do you ever use the reusable coffee pod? Do the reusable coffee pod require a special grind? I have tried several times to use the reusable coffee pod to make coffee using Folgers classic regular grind and it never turns out very well. I also tried making coffee with the filter and without the filter and results are pretty much the same. I would appreciate any info or suggestions.
Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY ABN RET
ETERNITY ETERNITY AVERY LONG TIME


Re: Keurig single cup coffee maker

Terri N.
 

Hey Fred,
My wife Kay and I have a cure egg coffee maker and we also use those reusable podhs. What she says that that she uses is not the espresso grind but the drip coffee grind. We even ground our own coffee and put in there and it works just fine. don’t put any more than two heaping tablespoons of coffee in that cup. A couple of things can affect how the coffee turns out. Number one the wrong grind and number to the amount of coffee you put in there. If you get it to fall it won’t brew right because the water can’t run through it the way it should. If you have anymore questions don’t be afraid to ask. Thanks

You can fill your ears with music and your mouth with food, but, music won’t make you fat.
ternord54@gmail.com
On Apr 16, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Fred Adams <w4hc@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Do any of you list members use the Keurig single cup coffee maker and if so,
do you ever use the reusable coffee pod? Do the reusable coffee pod require
a special grind? I have tried several times to use the reusable coffee pod
to make coffee using Folgers classic regular grind and it never turns out
very well. I also tried making coffee with the filter and without the
filter and results are pretty much the same. I would appreciate any info or
suggestions.
Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY ABN RET
ETERNITY ETERNITY AVERY LONG TIME


Re: NVDA, read current line and read all

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,

It does but split among two commands: Insert+2 will toggle character echo and Insert+3 will toggle word echo.

I highly recommend listening to two sets of tutorials:

 

Cheers,

Jsoeph

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walter Ramage via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi.  Thank you, that is very helpful.  One feature Jaws has is to echo character or words or character & words or none.  It is a toggle and that command is insert +#2, that's #2 on the number row.  When set to none there is no keyboard echo as you type.  When set to character then you of course get the Character echo as you type.  When set to word you get no character echo until you press space after your word then the word you have just typed is repeated.

  When set to character & word you get the keyboard echo for the character and when you press space you also get the word you have just typed.  I have mine set to character only.  I don't know if NVDA has an equivalent but for me it doesn't really matter as I'm happy with character echo only.  Walter.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 16 April 2020 12:22
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi Walter,

 

5NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows already provides that functionality.  Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word.  Does Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that?  I can update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is covered.  For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:

 

LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character

UP / DOWN ARROW - move up or down by one line

HOME - move to the start of the current line

END - move to the end of the current line

CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one word

CONTROL+UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by paragraph (that doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time you press ENTER as a paragraph).

PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of information

CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in programs like Word which define a page)

CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document

CONTROL+END - move to the bottom or end of a document

 

The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and it will select text as well while it moves.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi.  I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off.  Things are looking a little better since I've had help from this list.  It has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.

 

One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word.  In Jaws insert/right arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read word by word backwards.  just pressing left arrow will move forward character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.

 

In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing insert/left or right arrow.  I'm not sure if NNVDA does this.  I've pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken.  Is this feature absent from NVDA?  If NVDA does have this feature then where do I go to find it.  I don't want to spend a long frustrating period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist.  With thanks.  Walter.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 16 April 2020 00:36
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi Walter,

 

There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So first:

 

- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key.  Note if you use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.

 

- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".  Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for NVDA commands.  Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.

 

So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or NVDA+L in laptop layout.

 

To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.

 

As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.

 

Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced. 

 

Gene

----- Oribginal Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow. 

 

I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you changed it, let us know.

 

Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do, you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.

 

But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an NVDA key, let us know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

 

Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like some help with something.

 

In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To read all, insert and down arrow.

 

Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.

 

I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with the announcement "blank."

 

How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help appreciated, thank you.  Walter.


 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Bluetooth keyboard buying help?

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Josh, there are a trilion types of the kind of bluetooth keyboard you're
looking for. It does appear that the most common one, amongst the blind at
least in Androidville is the iClever BK03. Read more about it on
amazon.com/

Oh, it is a trifold keyboard and can be used for iOS or Windows as well. It
DOES NOT require the typing in of a paring code, yikes, I hate those!
Function KeyC puts the keyboard in paring mode; then launch your bluetooth
app on your toy and have it scan for the keyboard. Once found, just <tap>
on the pare button on your toy and the deed is done.

You do have to switch from one toy to the next if you pare it with more than
one. Example, to switch to Android, it's FunctionQ, Windows, if memory
serves, is FunctionW, etc. Good luck and all the best!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

The command ctrl+the right or left arrow does indeed move word by word with Jaws 2020 and Win10.


Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:58 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

With JAWS, word navigation can be done on Num Lock Pad with Jaws Key and respective arrow, but not on the standard arrows. With the standard left and right arrows, arrows, it goes one character at a time. I'm trying this stuff, as discussed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:46 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Walter,

NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
already provides that functionality. Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go
back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word. Does
Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that? I can
update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is
covered. For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:

LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character UP / DOWN
ARROW - move up or down by one line HOME - move to the start of the
current line END - move to the end of the current line
CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one
CONTROL+word UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by
CONTROL+paragraph (that
doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time
you press ENTER as a paragraph).
PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of
information
CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
programs like Word which define a page)
CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document END - move to
CONTROL+the bottom or end of a document

The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and
it will select text as well while it moves.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi. I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off. Things
are looking a little better since I've had help from this list. It
has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.



One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word. In Jaws insert/right
arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read
word by word backwards. just pressing left arrow will move forward
character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.



In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing
the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
insert/left or right arrow. I'm not sure if NNVDA does this. I've
pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken. Is
this feature absent from NVDA? If NVDA does have this feature then
where do I go to find it. I don't want to spend a long frustrating
period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist. With
thanks. Walter.



*From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
*Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
*To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi Walter,



There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you
have NVDA setup. So first:



- You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key. Note if you
use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.



- You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for
NVDA commands. Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to
other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.



So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
NVDA+L
in laptop layout.



To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.



As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow
keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.



Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNV
DA



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.



Gene

----- Oribginal Message -----

*From:* Gene <gsasner@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM

*To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



You can’t use insert numpad down arrow. NVDA reserves the numpad for
screen review. Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.



I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout. If you
changed it, let us know.



Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key. If you do,
you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are
using the desktop layout. I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.



But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for
read to end. If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an
NVDA key, let us know.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM

*To:* techtalk@groups.io

*Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all



Hi folks. I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a
little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like
some help with something.



In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow. To
read all, insert and down arrow.



Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read
current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.



I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with
the announcement "blank."



How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert
down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent. Help
appreciated, thank you. Walter.



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Bluetooth keyboard buying help?

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi

My folding pluggable Bluetooth keyboard fro atguys.com wore out and I need to buy a new one.

I think I want to get one from amazon. What is a good Bluetooth keyboard? I do a lot of typing, use it mostly on my lap in a chair with my phone or iPad. And also with any keyboards you may recommend, what are its Bluetooth pairing instructions?

 

Thanks,

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Thunderbird and Conversation/Threading

Donald Roberts
 

Ron, This is my one major gripe about Thunderbird.  Well, there is one more.  Whenever you use Thunderbird to forward an email which contains embedded links, those links do not show correctly.  Le me know if you need examples, and I will forward something.


Don Roberts


On 4/16/2020 7:33 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I have asked this a number of times on various technical lists and I have never gotten an answer.  Because these lists change membership a lot, I thought I would ask again.

With Windows 95 mail, outlook Express and Windows Mail for Windows 7, 8, when you grouped messages by conversation, all the messages that had the same subject line including those with the reply label as in Re: were grouped into one thread.  This was absolute--no exceptions.  With Thunderbird--since I started using it in Windows 7 years ago, particularly if there are a large number of messages in the conversation/thread, they always seem to get split up some way. By this I mean that for example, if you have a message with a subject line of 'Thunderbird Information' and if 14 people reply directly to that message as in 14 replies with the subject line of 'Re: Thunderbird Information', most often, I will get something like 6 messages in one thred and then the rest maybe 8 or 9 in another group.

I wonder just why this always happens.  Does anyone else experience this and if so, is there some setting I have missed all these years that could be changed so that they grouped properly as they did in Windows mail programs?  Thanks for any help.


Trying to batch delete overwhelming number of duplicate Google calendar events

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So, I have this problem with my Google Calendar. For some reason and I don’t know how, I’ve got a couple of recurring events that have duplicated themselves to the point where simply going in and deleting one by one isn’t feasible. One recurring event has roughly 1600 occurrences and the other over 1700. These are monthly, so you can imagine the frustration having to navigate past this amount of duplicate appointments every month. It’s also to the point where the sheer size of my calendar is crashing the calendar app on my iPhone and it makes the webpage on the PC load super slow.

Poking around online, there doesn’t seem to be a way to batch delete an entire day of events or so many recurring ones. It’s suggested to export the calendar and import it into a separate calendar service like Outlook or Yahoo and clean it up there.

I can import into Outlook 2016 fine, but my question is since I haven’t tried this before and haven’t found right away how to do it is how can I go about deleting such a large number of events in the Outlook calendar with Jaws?

If anyone knows how to batch delete recurring events in Outlook or knows how to do it in Google calendar directly, I’d appreciate the heads up.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 


Keurig single cup coffee maker

Fred Adams
 

Do any of you list members use the Keurig single cup coffee maker and if so,
do you ever use the reusable coffee pod? Do the reusable coffee pod require
a special grind? I have tried several times to use the reusable coffee pod
to make coffee using Folgers classic regular grind and it never turns out
very well. I also tried making coffee with the filter and without the
filter and results are pretty much the same. I would appreciate any info or
suggestions.
Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
US ARMY ABN RET
ETERNITY ETERNITY AVERY LONG TIME


transferring playlist items from Apple Music to YouTube or Google play music

Beth
 

Hi all, this is Beth here. I prepared a playlist, about five hours of music on Apple Music, but there was a problem with playing it on a certain Amazon skill, which skips a bunch of songs and only plays twenty songs at a time. That would be the apple music skill. I’m curious as to how I could quickly and accessibly transfer all that apple music stuff to YouTube music or google play music, which I’m subscribed to both. I don’t think manually transferring and translating the songs should happen, there are over fifty songs inn my select playlist. So that would be tedious and hours of work. So what are you all’s ideas? I would want to be able to transfer the apple music playlist to youtube music or google so we can easily play it on a home speaker, and no we won’t be purchasing a not so impressive home pod. We already have google and amazon speakers, and we’re considering other options should this not work.
Thanks all in advance for your ideas.
Beth

Sent from my iPhone with iOS 13


Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

Gene
 

Again, JAWS doesn’t use the numpad when using the application cursor, in other words when not using the JAWS cursor or the Touch Cursor.  The numpad does what it would do if JAWS is used or if no screen-reader is used.  Numpad 8 does the same thing as the nain keyboard up arrow.  Numpad 2 does the same thing as the main keyboard down arrow.  And that is true, as I said in mhy last message, unless another program you are using and in the window of uses the numpad for other purposes.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
 
With JAWS, the Say All command works with either down arrow. Read a line does too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:46 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Its worth noting, however, that there are screen r4eview commands for reading the current line, word, and character.Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all

On 4/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Hi Walter,
>
> NVDA doesn't have a command to read by word - purely because Windows
> already provides that functionality.  Press CONTROL+LEFT ARROW to go
> back one word and CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW to go forward one word.  Does
> Jaws have other commands for navigating through text like that?  I can
> update our guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA to ensure that is
> covered.  For what it's worth, these are all standard Windows commands:
>
> LEFT / RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one character UP / DOWN
> ARROW - move up or down by one line HOME - move to the start of the
> current line END - move to the end of the current line
> CONTROL+LEFT ARROW / CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW - move back or forward by one
> CONTROL+word UP ARROW / CONTROL+DOWN ARROW - Move up or down by
> CONTROL+paragraph (that
> doesn't work everywhere, and note that many programs treat any time
> you press ENTER as a paragraph).
> PAGE UP / PAGE DOWN - move up or down by one screen worth of
> information
> CONTROL+PAGE UP / CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move up or down by one page (in
> programs like Word which define a page)
> CONTROL+HOME - move to the top or start of a document END - move to
> CONTROL+the bottom or end of a document
>
> The handy thing is you can hold SHIFT while pressing any of those and
> it will select text as well while it moves.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:56 PM Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr=
> blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi.  I am using desktop layout and the numpad lock is off.  Things
>> are looking a little better since I've had help from this list.  It
>> has confirmed things I suspected and informed me of things I was unaware of.
>>
>>
>>
>> One thing I'm not sure of is reading by word.  In Jaws insert/right
>> arrow will read forward word by word and insert/left arrow will read
>> word by word backwards.  just pressing left arrow will move forward
>> character by character and left arrow the same but backwards.
>>
>>
>>
>> In NVDA I can move forward or back character by character by pressing
>> the left or right arrows but I can't read word by word by pressing
>> insert/left or right arrow.  I'm not sure if NNVDA does this.  I've
>> pressed insert/right arrow or left arrow but nothing is spoken.  Is
>> this feature absent from NVDA?  If NVDA does have this feature then
>> where do I go to find it.  I don't want to spend a long frustrating
>> period of time looking for a feature that doesn't exist.  With
>> thanks.  Walter.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] *On
>> Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen
>> *Sent:* 16 April 2020 00:36
>> *To:* main@techtalk.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Walter,
>>
>>
>>
>> There are a couple of options for keystrokes depending on how you
>> have NVDA setup.  So first:
>>
>>
>>
>> - You can have INSERT (either the numpad 0 or the extended insert) or
>> CAPS LOCK (or all three) set as your NVDA modifier key.  Note if you
>> use the numpad insert, you need to have numlock OFF for it to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> - You can use "Desktop keyboard layout" or "Laptop keyboard layout".
>> Desktop layout assumes you have a number pad which can be used for
>> NVDA commands.  Laptop keyboard layout reassigns those commands to
>> other keys and so ends up remapping quite a lot of keystrokes.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, to read the current line is NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout, or
>> NVDA+L
>> in laptop layout.
>>
>>
>>
>> To read from the current point onwards in NVDA+down arrow in desktop
>> layout or NVDA+A in laptop layout.
>>
>>
>>
>> As previously noted, the arrows in this case are the dedicated arrow
>> keys (often found in set out in an upside down T shape) not the number pad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also another thing you will likely be interested in, is the guide to
>> switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here:
>> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNV
>> DA
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:46 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>
>> If you use read to end, blank lines won’t be announced.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> ----- Oribginal Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Gene <gsasner@...>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:43 PM
>>
>> *To:* main@TechTalk.groups.io
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> You can’t use insert numpad down arrow.  NVDA reserves the numpad for
>> screen review.  Use insert with the main keyboard down arrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m assuming you are using the default desktop layout.  If you
>> changed it, let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, you can have the caps lock function as an NVDA key.  If you do,
>> you will have insert and caps lock function as NVDA keys if you are
>> using the desktop layout.  I don’t use the laptop layout and I’m not sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I find it much mpore pleasant to use caps lock down arrow for
>> read to end.  If you want to know how to make the caps lock key an
>> NVDA key, let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Walter Ramage via groups.io <wpr@...>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:07 PM
>>
>> *To:* techtalk@groups.io
>>
>> *Subject:* [TechTalk] NVDA, read current line and read all
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks.  I've decided to dip my toe in the NVDA world but only a
>> little bit at the moment but before I submerge my big toe I'd like
>> some help with something.
>>
>>
>>
>> In Jaws to read the current line I press insert plus up arrow.  To
>> read all, insert and down arrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now I tried the same in NVDA but although insert up arrow read
>> current line, insert down arrow also read current line, it didn't read all.
>>
>>
>>
>> I got more if I scrolled down but NVDA repeated every blank line with
>> the announcement "blank."
>>
>>
>>
>> How can I correct this so insert up arrow reads current line, insert
>> down arrow reads all and every blank line is silent.  Help
>> appreciated, thank you.  Walter.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm
>> _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>>
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
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>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
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>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
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> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
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> Web: www.nvaccess.org
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
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